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2461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 02, 2017, 09:25:35 PM
SONM Bonus Distribution Update
All ICO participants have received their bonuses for the participating. SONM team brings apologies for the inconvenience with token allocation and we are very grateful for your patience.
SONM ICO participants additional bonus list
Source: https://blog.sonm.io/sonm-bonus-distribution-update-d07360d64f7b?source=linkShare-5a44e9734239-1499009996

Bullshit! Why is my address not listed?? I can't believe they spent 15 days on bonus correction and failed again Angry
I sent an email to bonus@sonm.io on June 17th and never got any reply...

SONM, I'm still waiting for some feedback to my request. Roll Eyes

i have the same problem. and i dont trust them anymore.

so i will give some red trust i think. but to whom? do you know the accounts of the team members?

they deserve much worse than a red trust if they don't come and give some explanation

EDIT: just went on slack and the community account claimed "There are edge cases" (sic)...
LOL, they are f*cking comedians...

slack? do they help you there? if i understand you right they just post excuses. mhhh

they give you canned answers there, some of which complete bullshit, the rest pretty void and useless... so nothing I would define as "help"
2462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 02, 2017, 08:56:02 PM
SONM Bonus Distribution Update
All ICO participants have received their bonuses for the participating. SONM team brings apologies for the inconvenience with token allocation and we are very grateful for your patience.
SONM ICO participants additional bonus list
Source: https://blog.sonm.io/sonm-bonus-distribution-update-d07360d64f7b?source=linkShare-5a44e9734239-1499009996

Bullshit! Why is my address not listed?? I can't believe they spent 15 days on bonus correction and failed again Angry
I sent an email to bonus@sonm.io on June 17th and never got any reply...

SONM, I'm still waiting for some feedback to my request. Roll Eyes

i have the same problem. and i dont trust them anymore.

so i will give some red trust i think. but to whom? do you know the accounts of the team members?

they deserve much worse than a red trust if they don't come and give some explanation

EDIT: just went on slack and the community account claimed "There are edge cases" (sic)...
LOL, they are f*cking comedians...
2463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 02, 2017, 08:45:14 PM
SONM Bonus Distribution Update
All ICO participants have received their bonuses for the participating. SONM team brings apologies for the inconvenience with token allocation and we are very grateful for your patience.
SONM ICO participants additional bonus list
Source: https://blog.sonm.io/sonm-bonus-distribution-update-d07360d64f7b?source=linkShare-5a44e9734239-1499009996

Bullshit! Why is my address not listed?? I can't believe they spent 15 days on bonus correction and failed again Angry
I sent an email to bonus@sonm.io on June 17th and never got any reply...

SONM, I'm still waiting for some feedback to my request. Roll Eyes
2464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 01, 2017, 08:40:24 PM
I am sorry you are still displeased.  If you have any questions or if there is any other way we can assist you please let us know.

Indeed, I'm "displeased" by the poor quality of the job the team's being doing so far, considering they couldn't even manage to fix the issue with the bonus in 15 days.
You keep saying it's because they have to do it manually, the team is too small (as if that was an excuse rather than a sign of failure to allocate adequate resources on the job) and blah, blah... Yet I can't figure out why a dev's team which aims at building a worldwide supercomputer is not able to write some code to calculate the bonus, based on transaction's timestamps and BTC price history from any decent exchange.

I see many people concerned about SNM falling on exchanges, yet the situation must be read the other way around: it's the price that's crashing because the market is concerned about the unprofessionalism, unpreparedness and inadequacy shown by the team so far.
Are you trying to get ban in Slacks?  Grin Roll Eyes

As I pointed out before, this thread is not moderated, luckily  Wink
True.  Or he would already banned both you and me.

by the way, perhaps you should apologize with the poor almeida guy, who's being raising those same concerns and got called a FUDer...
2465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 01, 2017, 08:32:01 PM
I am sorry you are still displeased.  If you have any questions or if there is any other way we can assist you please let us know.

Indeed, I'm "displeased" by the poor quality of the job the team's being doing so far, considering they couldn't even manage to fix the issue with the bonus in 15 days.
You keep saying it's because they have to do it manually, the team is too small (as if that was an excuse rather than a sign of failure to allocate adequate resources on the job) and blah, blah... Yet I can't figure out why a dev's team which aims at building a worldwide supercomputer is not able to write some code to calculate the bonus, based on transaction's timestamps and BTC price history from any decent exchange.

I see many people concerned about SNM falling on exchanges, yet the situation must be read the other way around: it's the price that's crashing because the market is concerned about the unprofessionalism, unpreparedness and inadequacy shown by the team so far.
Are you trying to get ban in Slacks?  Grin Roll Eyes

As I pointed out before, this thread is not moderated, luckily  Wink
2466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 01, 2017, 08:28:45 PM
I am sorry you are still displeased.  If you have any questions or if there is any other way we can assist you please let us know.

Indeed, I'm "displeased" by the poor quality of the job the team's being doing so far, considering they couldn't even manage to fix the issue with the bonus in 15 days.
You keep saying it's because they have to do it manually, the team is too small (as if that was an excuse rather than a sign of failure to allocate adequate resources on the job) and blah, blah... Yet I can't figure out why a dev's team which aims at building a worldwide supercomputer is not able to write some code to calculate the bonus, based on transaction's timestamps and BTC price history from any decent exchange.

I see many people concerned about SNM falling on exchanges, yet the situation must be read the other way around: it's the price that's crashing because the market is concerned about the unprofessionalism, unpreparedness and inadequacy shown by the team so far.
2467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: July 01, 2017, 07:59:09 PM
I spoke to my team and honestly I might have banned you also if you called me unprofessional.  You came in you were clearly displeased about the current state of the project.  They answered your questions to the best of their ability.  You were still displeased.  They tried to illustration a point you misunderstood and called them unprofessional.  I am going to unban your account because no one here holds a grudge.  Please understand that my team is trying to do everything we can to assist the you.  We are here to help. 
Please post everything where they illustrate the point to when I got banned and let people decide was it me or your team was on a power trip.  There was someone else who right wrote at the same time as me questioning your professionalism.

Fact is you cannot act like an ass and do as you please when you are representing the company.  To have the team leader endorse this type of behavior.  Sonm needs to change their community team.  Overpaying by a mile. 


I've been eager to spot some trace of professionalism from SONM team since the ICO started. The funny thing is that somebody here suggested to open a new moderated thread bacause of "FUDers"... I hope it's now clear why that would be a really bad idea.
2468  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Guida al hard fork di Bitcoin (nel caso capiti) - IMPORTANTE on: July 01, 2017, 05:12:38 PM

Guida senz'altro utile, però magari accennerei al problema dei replay attack in caso di fork.
2469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 30, 2017, 02:09:05 PM
Why there's no information about the contract? What the hell is it?

Quote
Sorry, we were unnable to retrieve a valid ContractABI for this contract.
Unable to read contract information
https://etherscan.io/token/0x983f6d60db79ea8ca4eb9968c6aff8cfa04b3c63#readContract

I see this one:

https://etherscan.io/address/0x93025150b13eb744d51d927549a30630912e8fe8
2470  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organizza dalla rete dei miners RIB technology) on: June 30, 2017, 12:33:17 PM
Nessuno lo sa ? .

Ti riferisci al bounty? No, non lo sanno neanche loro: sono due settimane che stanno cercando di ricalcolare i bonus per i pagamenti non-ETH... Con oltre 40M di $ raccolti non si possono permettere di assumere personale più qualificato di questo?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845114.msg19858647#msg19858647

E questi vorrebbero costruire il supercomputer mondiale Roll Eyes
2471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 30, 2017, 11:38:58 AM
@SONM team, was it fog computing or mist computing? I'm getting confused.

2472  Local / Alt-Currencies (Italiano) / Re: Scelta wallet multicripto on: June 30, 2017, 09:55:36 AM
Se ne discuteva già qui:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921684.0
2473  Local / Annunci / Re: [TOPIC UFFICIALE] Stellar (p2p market / exchange) on: June 29, 2017, 09:34:36 PM
contro valore in dollari ben 120.
Però! Complimenti. Ma senza facebook non si becca niente, giusto?

Ciao!

Tranquillo, non deve essere verificato. Pensavo anch'io di dover rinunciare, invece mi è bastato un profilo fake: pare che controllino solo la località geografica.
Comunque obiettivamente è uno dei giveaway più generosi che abbia mai visto, a questo punto mi sento moralmente in obbligo di approfondire il funzionamento e il protocollo Stellar, a cui non mi ero mai interessato fino ad ora.
2474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 29, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
Yep. The team might want to consider moving on to a self-moderated thread, so they can delete his posts and those of other FUDers like him, just like ICONOMI did when they were under FUD attack 6 months ago.

That's ridiculous. A self-moderated thread would be the worst choice for showing transparency, openness and goodwill, as are reasonably expected by investors, and would look like a convenient way to get rid of legitimate criticism on the excuse of fighting FUD.

I'm no FUDer at all, and think anybody can spot FUD and tell it apart from criticism. Yet as any other investor who put their coins into this ICO, I feel totally disappointed by the very unprofessional behavior the team has shown so far, by the lack of communication, the non existing support, let alone their TWO WEEKS long struggle to sort out the mess with bonus and bounties...

We have the full right to express without censorship our criticism and concern about the present situation, actually I see the same concern in the market itself, as shown by the current lower price. I'm long with my tokens, so I tend to disregard short term fluctuations, but I'd expect some sign of real commitment and a more professional attitude by a company which raised over $40m, and still has to prove they're able to fulfil their promises.

i dont wont to read the last pages. but after reading you post in think that the devs are still silent and nothing had happened. or did they deliver something?

The only relevant entries I see on their blog since the ICO, are about a short Roadmap Overview, which points to the very same document they already published as their white paper. So nothing new for the past two weeks, except they are still manually calculating the bonus to apply to non-ETH payments, as their system didn't work during the ICO.
2475  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN] Progetto Piattaforma Notary (NTRY) - BOUNTY DISPONIBILI ORA! on: June 29, 2017, 03:30:12 PM
Cioè questo dice ti ho dello SCAM perchè non hai raggiunto il breakeven e non hai restituito ma vai avanti lo stesso?

mmmmmm forse si vuole fare pubblicità gratuita?

In realtà della raccolta in sé non parla neanche. Fa notare la mancanza di prove dell'esperienza nel campo da parte del team, l'assenza di un prototipo in corso di sviluppo che dimostri che non è solo un'idea sulla carta, il sito dall'apparenza poco professionale, il bonus spropositato pensato per ingolosire più investitori possibile, ecc.
2476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: June 29, 2017, 03:06:37 PM
Yep. The team might want to consider moving on to a self-moderated thread, so they can delete his posts and those of other FUDers like him, just like ICONOMI did when they were under FUD attack 6 months ago.

That's ridiculous. A self-moderated thread would be the worst choice for showing transparency, openness and goodwill, as are reasonably expected by investors, and would look like a convenient way to get rid of legitimate criticism on the excuse of fighting FUD.

I'm no FUDer at all, and think anybody can spot FUD and tell it apart from criticism. Yet as any other investor who put their coins into this ICO, I feel totally disappointed by the very unprofessional behavior the team has shown so far, by the lack of communication, the non existing support, let alone their TWO WEEKS long struggle to sort out the mess with bonus and bounties...

We have the full right to express without censorship our criticism and concern about the present situation, actually I see the same concern in the market itself, as shown by the current lower price. I'm long with my tokens, so I tend to disregard short term fluctuations, but I'd expect some sign of real commitment and a more professional attitude by a company which raised over $40m, and still has to prove they're able to fulfil their promises.
2477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NTRY] Notary Platform on: June 29, 2017, 11:41:17 AM
https://icotracker.net/project/ntry_platform

You might want to take a look at this.  Your project is marked as Scam Alert.

Also why do you use gmail instead of email with your domain name?  Looks very amateurish.

Thanks for your opinion,

Wow, no question asked, just marked as scam. I`ve contacted the writer and waiting for explanation.

Regarding the mail. We all have our mails with the domain name, I just prefer gmail, its the fastest way the people can reach me (+ I am using google docs of this address to calculate the bounties,...).

If anyone feels better they can write us on info@notary-platform.com

regards,
saso


Hello

I'm the founder of the Tracker and one of the Curators.

Your project has been flagged as an alert. SCAM projects are marked for example so https://icotracker.net/project/declouds

Next a few thoughts on why an Alert is set.

If you decide to appeal to the community for financial help in realizing your idea, the goodwill is so kind and open your faces in a broad sense. Give people irrefutable proof of your experience. Provide a technical proof of the concept.  Justify your decision about such large bonuses for early birds... is not it easier to write 10% instead of 5? This is all a game of words often used by scammers. Show real development progress. During all this time, you wrote at least a couple of lines of code? So just show it on GitHub ) etc.

Do not misunderstand me. All these thoughts are based on a real 3-year experience of investing in ICO. I look at your website, which is made "on the knee" under the WordPress (on probation), and I catch déjà vu from the scamers for 3 years and I can not understand how the people who created this site can realize the notarial platform.

I hope I managed to convey the main idea.

Though I do appreciate your purpose "to make more informed investment decisions through the ICO and want to give the opportunity for all", I believe if you demand more transparency to others, then you should be as much transparent on your side. On your website I read "Who we are? We are distributed team of enthusiasts." That tells very little about yourself...
Who are the Curators? How many are there? What kind of experience and technical expertise can they show, in order to prove their ability to assess the validity of a project?
How can you ensure your judgement is free from any conflict of interest? Etc. Etc.

I know it may look like I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but I'd like to point out those considerations above are not specifically related to this Notary project, rather to your ICO Tracker in a broader sense.
2478  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN] Progetto Piattaforma Notary (NTRY) - BOUNTY DISPONIBILI ORA! on: June 29, 2017, 11:01:20 AM
il tipo è questo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=294303
è un newbie quindi occhio, usate le giuste precauzioni
ESCROW

azz, l'ho visto ora... Ma cos'è, l'88 è stata per qualche congiunzione astrale un'annata di predestinati bitcoiner, o angry ha colpito ancora?? Roll Eyes

EDIT: per chi fosse ancora indeciso se tenersi i NTRY o farsi ridare gli ETH, sul thread internazionale è comparso questo alert:

https://icotracker.net/project/ntry_platform

Segue la spiegazione da parte dell'autore della recensione:


Hello

I'm the founder of the Tracker and one of the Curators.

Your project has been flagged as an alert. SCAM projects are marked for example so https://icotracker.net/project/declouds

Next a few thoughts on why an Alert is set.

If you decide to appeal to the community for financial help in realizing your idea, the goodwill is so kind and open your faces in a broad sense. Give people irrefutable proof of your experience. Provide a technical proof of the concept.  Justify your decision about such large bonuses for early birds... is not it easier to write 10% instead of 5? This is all a game of words often used by scammers. Show real development progress. During all this time, you wrote at least a couple of lines of code? So just show it on GitHub ) etc.

Do not misunderstand me. All these thoughts are based on a real 3-year experience of investing in ICO. I look at your website, which is made "on the knee" under the WordPress (on probation), and I catch déjà vu from the scamers for 3 years and I can not understand how the people who created this site can realize the notarial platform.

I hope I managed to convey the main idea.
2479  Local / Annunci / Re: [ANN] Progetto Piattaforma Notary (NTRY) - BOUNTY DISPONIBILI ORA! on: June 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Scusate sono stato assente e non ho potuto aggiornare ma.....

buone notizie

Quote
OFFER TO BUY YOUR NTRY
[/color]

I believe in this project, unfortunately I missed the Pre-ICO.
If you are looking to get a refund of the ETH you contributed, PM me, I will refund you 125% of your original investment in exchange for your investment.

We'll figure out how to transfer your NTRY and/or your wallet.

So you are basically getting a 25% return on your money for holding for a few days!

Serious offers only!

qualcuno ha deciso di premiare coloro che hanno investito nella pre-ICO e deciso di richiedere gli ETH indietro, basta contattare il tipo e si ricceveranno il 25% in più di ETH
ottimo direi

Mi puzza di scam... occhio a cosa mandate e a chi...
2480  Local / Trading, analisi e speculazione / Re: Sfruttare differenza tra quotazioni Exchange, qualcuno ha provato? on: June 28, 2017, 10:18:24 PM
L'argomento è stato già trattato molte volte: se fai una ricerca nel forum con "arbitraggio", ti escono 3 pagine di risultati...
Una delle discussioni più recenti è questa, in cui mi sono sentito in dovere di mettere in guardia dai rischi:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1876507.0

Poi ognuno coi bitcoin suoi ci fa quello che vuole, assumendosene i rischi. Comunque uomo avvisato...
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