Questions: The "Potcoin team, who is/are it? Since they haven't done anything for over a year (including NOT doing ANY of the things they promised, like the card and many others), why is anyone going to believe them based on some photoshop-created cans of a pot-drink? What the fuck is this shit of the slack channel being the means of debate of the coin project, de factor isolating the entire altcoin community by not posting here in many months?
Who is paying for what would be a very considerable expense in manufacturing and distributing "the cans' drink"? I put the quote because so far it is only a photoshop image that cost nothing to create. The reality implies a significant cost even in produced in small scale -which would make the drink incredibly expensive even if no profit at all is taken into consideration. This is either overly ambitious -which needs credibility which is lacking 100%- , or just an outright scam. Consequently no one in his sane mind would believe it can be a reality.
What "efforts", specifically, are being made to get vendors to use Potcoin? That ship sailed almost a year ago when we actually had one making specific offers right here on this tread, with plenty of imagery and even (unwarranted) enthusiasm? It's just demagoguery and the truth is that NOTHING is being done -or actually CAN be done- in that regard.
You are PLAYING with the idea of using Bitcoin itself or Ethereum. Either would be fine indeed, but it is hardly the problem of this coin. The real problem of Potcoin is that it is a headless project, completely abandoned for almost a year and now all of a sudden supposedly retaken with an absurdity of an idea (the drink) that stinks like a quick scam given the total lack of credibility of the anonymous "Potcoin team". Nobody in his sane mind would SUPPORT IT IN THIS VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL COMMUNITY, but much less in the entire Altcoin arena in which this is a project most consider -justifiably so- abandoned and death for all intents and purposes. If anyone is serious about Potcoin, other than "rdyoung", it would be great. But a shred of minimal credibility is imperative. "The potcoin team" has none whatsoever.
I mean this could be managed worse on on deliberate purpose -and considerable skill at that-. More than by pot heads, by crack heads. Amazing is really to say the least.
Not sure what you have been smoking or drinking but I suggest you lay off for awhile and let your mind clear up. The potcoin team has an active channel on slack that I can invite you to if you so desire, but I will do so only on the condition that your willing to work with everyone and play nice. If your willing to chip in and help thats great, if not kindly STFU and leave this thread alone. There is a growing team of people chipping in to grow potcoin. One of the most notable is a fork of coinomi for android that gives us a mobile wallet for potcoin. They have also submitted that code to coinomis github so the next time they roll up a new release it will hopefully be included. I was attempting to help you figure out the potcoin wallet but I forgot that your a troll, sorry about that. I will be putting you back on ignore and I suggest others here do the same to prevent them from having to deal with you. Thank you for trying to help. Others do too and indeed did. "Dealing" with me is dealing with a mirror, quite simply. As opposed to a sheltered environment for idiots unable to deal with criticism, alright? I simply point out THE TRUTH, not BS. Why instead of being the worst possible representative of the coin with your idiotic and intolerable propensity to STFU everyone, don't become an asset and RESPOND to the RELEVANT QUESTIONS? Why would anyone take even remotely seriously the "Potcoin team" that has not done ANYTHING at all -let alone what they promised- in the last 10 months? First question. Second one: Who the FUCK is going to pay for the doubtfully viable under any circumstances manufacturing and distribution of the "drink"? RELEVANT, no stupidity nor scammy false pretenses with the only objective of selling the coins to idiots, like you just admitted to having done? Who specifically are "they" contacting in the vendors world and what would be the "enticing" deal they can offer them to use Potcoin instead of regular dollars or Bitcoin? Yeah, you don't want to answer those kind of questions, right? Neither do they. Because you, and them, all full of it. Pure and simple. Neither "them" nor you want anything to benefit the holders of Potcoin, you both just want to get out of it with the maximum profit at the expense of idiots that believe you are doing something when in reality nothing is being done. PROVE IT otherwise. Or, using one of your preferred nomenclatures, STFU. Because I am a glutton for punishment I will respond one last time. Your a giant troll for a few reasons. In this instance its because your calling out the idea of an energy drink and you honestly think its a huge sunk cost to get started? Do you really believe they need to have their own factory, workers, etc? You have no idea how the world works. They likely paired up with whatever company in canada produce soda and energy drinks. I guarantee they hooked a deal to have a potcoin label slapped on a can of a generic energy drink. Companies do this kind of thing all the time. Yes, the guys behind potlabs and the rebirth of potcoin haven't been as responsive as some of us would like. However I have already covered this in numerous other posts and I will attempt to make it is as succinct as possible. Crypto is NOT like a startup of any normal business, without the support of the community in both buying, talking up and mining the coin either via POW or in this case POS the coin will fail. Its also clear that they don't spend time posting on BCT or reddit, mostly because of asshats like you, BUT they do have a slack channel for people wanting to actually help and guess what, its a live chat with those that have joined that channel so you can ask questions and get answers. I will happily send you an invite for the channel, simply shoot me a pm with your preferred email addy and I will get you in. However, if you post random FUD and other crap that is non helpful I will boot your ass so fast your grandkids heads will spin, so keep that in mind while deciding if you want to join. That channel is not for tech support or "customer complaints" its only for those willing to help potcoin grow and prosper. I for example am not in a weed friendly state at the moment and I don't frequent any weed forums or discussion boards/reddits. My experience and knowledge is the markets, because of this I am doing what I can to market make pot on both polo and bittrex as they are the largest volume exchanges that are US based. I also setup a few "mega" wallets to get the network up to speed after the devs wouldn't reduce the threshold. @cartmanspc was kind enough to mod and compile a few different wallets for me and others to test to help get the POS network up to speed. Others have likely chipped in on marketing, copy writing, etc. I think I see a pattern emerging with you and your shit fud posts. Every time the market starts to rally you jump in with some bullshit about potcoin and the guys behind it. POT is likely bottoming out around 250 by now so you can crawl away and wait for the next time it tries to break 400. Like I said, what you are and everyone knows it, is full of it. And I wouldn't join your slack if you paid me for it (I mean, for money I would, but you cant afford me). A group of idiotic kiss asses, no thanks. The Potcoinlabs, potcoin team or whatever other name they choose to describe themselves, are proven scammers after having left the coin to die like they have for almost a year. Deal with it. Credibility zero and they are not here because more people than myself would tell them that. That's what they have done. That's what they are, alright? Now go and gently try to scam your way out of this selling the cheapo coins - none are really cheap, since it is not going anywhere, but you know, some people may be tempted to expect a small rebound, just like a few days ago, when the "announcement on the 20th is made MORE "official". That's scammy, no matter how you choose to term it, ok? And you wouldn't figure me out even with a detailed map... restrictions that every brain has, alright? My posting is today, when it is already below 285 from a high of what, 499? a 50% haircut. You want to pin that on my posting? it's idiotic but not by a long shot the most idiotic thing you have done/posted so no one will be surprised. As for the generic canning energy drink... wow, you trying to teach your daddy how to make children? It's called "white label" (like the scotch) and yes practically every manufacturer does it now... for big ticket vendors, such as Kroger, Costco and many others. No one will do in a small way with a few cases, no one. And if they do it, it would be at a cost that would be absurdly pricey. But, even beyond that, have you in your minimal mind even stop to consider the cost -in mail alone- of a small (or not so small) package of canned drink? Why exactly do you think that no one in the planet, not even those whose costs are minimal because they manage huge volumes, use shipping for delivery? this doesn't require a great deal of knowledge or intellect acumen, just the most basic common sense... Amazing. Simply amazing. Did I mention "scotch"? the delivered price of the pot drink, regardless what's inside, would cost as much as a bottle of White Label --per can. Probably considerably more. And they, crack heads, are talking about "profits" from it? Anyway, please don't bother to answer, ok? It's not eve remotely acceptable to participate in any kind of exchange with you. For me and for anyone-"normal"-else. |
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Questions: The "Potcoin team, who is/are it? Since they haven't done anything for over a year (including NOT doing ANY of the things they promised, like the card and many others), why is anyone going to believe them based on some photoshop-created cans of a pot-drink? What the fuck is this shit of the slack channel being the means of debate of the coin project, de factor isolating the entire altcoin community by not posting here in many months?
Who is paying for what would be a very considerable expense in manufacturing and distributing "the cans' drink"? I put the quote because so far it is only a photoshop image that cost nothing to create. The reality implies a significant cost even in produced in small scale -which would make the drink incredibly expensive even if no profit at all is taken into consideration. This is either overly ambitious -which needs credibility which is lacking 100%- , or just an outright scam. Consequently no one in his sane mind would believe it can be a reality.
What "efforts", specifically, are being made to get vendors to use Potcoin? That ship sailed almost a year ago when we actually had one making specific offers right here on this tread, with plenty of imagery and even (unwarranted) enthusiasm? It's just demagoguery and the truth is that NOTHING is being done -or actually CAN be done- in that regard.
You are PLAYING with the idea of using Bitcoin itself or Ethereum. Either would be fine indeed, but it is hardly the problem of this coin. The real problem of Potcoin is that it is a headless project, completely abandoned for almost a year and now all of a sudden supposedly retaken with an absurdity of an idea (the drink) that stinks like a quick scam given the total lack of credibility of the anonymous "Potcoin team". Nobody in his sane mind would SUPPORT IT IN THIS VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL COMMUNITY, but much less in the entire Altcoin arena in which this is a project most consider -justifiably so- abandoned and death for all intents and purposes. If anyone is serious about Potcoin, other than "rdyoung", it would be great. But a shred of minimal credibility is imperative. "The potcoin team" has none whatsoever.
I mean this could be managed worse on on deliberate purpose -and considerable skill at that-. More than by pot heads, by crack heads. Amazing is really to say the least.
Not sure what you have been smoking or drinking but I suggest you lay off for awhile and let your mind clear up. The potcoin team has an active channel on slack that I can invite you to if you so desire, but I will do so only on the condition that your willing to work with everyone and play nice. If your willing to chip in and help thats great, if not kindly STFU and leave this thread alone. There is a growing team of people chipping in to grow potcoin. One of the most notable is a fork of coinomi for android that gives us a mobile wallet for potcoin. They have also submitted that code to coinomis github so the next time they roll up a new release it will hopefully be included. I was attempting to help you figure out the potcoin wallet but I forgot that your a troll, sorry about that. I will be putting you back on ignore and I suggest others here do the same to prevent them from having to deal with you. Thank you for trying to help. Others do too and indeed did. "Dealing" with me is dealing with a mirror, quite simply. As opposed to a sheltered environment for idiots unable to deal with criticism, alright? I simply point out THE TRUTH, not BS. Why instead of being the worst possible representative of the coin with your idiotic and intolerable propensity to STFU everyone, don't become an asset and RESPOND to the RELEVANT QUESTIONS? Why would anyone take even remotely seriously the "Potcoin team" that has not done ANYTHING at all -let alone what they promised- in the last 10 months? First question. Second one: Who the FUCK is going to pay for the doubtfully viable under any circumstances manufacturing and distribution of the "drink"? RELEVANT, no stupidity nor scammy false pretenses with the only objective of selling the coins to idiots, like you just admitted to having done? Who specifically are "they" contacting in the vendors world and what would be the "enticing" deal they can offer them to use Potcoin instead of regular dollars or Bitcoin? Yeah, you don't want to answer those kind of questions, right? Neither do they. Because you, and them, all full of it. Pure and simple. Neither "them" nor you want anything to benefit the holders of Potcoin, you both just want to get out of it with the maximum profit at the expense of idiots that believe you are doing something when in reality nothing is being done. PROVE IT otherwise. Or, using one of your preferred nomenclatures, STFU. |
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Questions: The "Potcoin team, who is/are it? Since they haven't done anything for over a year (including NOT doing ANY of the things they promised, like the card and many others), why is anyone going to believe them based on some photoshop-created cans of a pot-drink? What the fuck is this shit of the slack channel being the means of debate of the coin project, de factor isolating the entire altcoin community by not posting here in many months?
Who is paying for what would be a very considerable expense in manufacturing and distributing "the cans' drink"? I put the quote because so far it is only a photoshop image that cost nothing to create. The reality implies a significant cost even in produced in small scale -which would make the drink incredibly expensive even if no profit at all is taken into consideration. This is either overly ambitious -which needs credibility which is lacking 100%- , or just an outright scam. Consequently no one in his sane mind would believe it can be a reality.
What "efforts", specifically, are being made to get vendors to use Potcoin? That ship sailed almost a year ago when we actually had one making specific offers right here on this tread, with plenty of imagery and even (unwarranted) enthusiasm? It's just demagoguery and the truth is that NOTHING is being done -or actually CAN be done- in that regard.
You are PLAYING with the idea of using Bitcoin itself or Ethereum. Either would be fine indeed, but it is hardly the problem of this coin. The real problem of Potcoin is that it is a headless project, completely abandoned for almost a year and now all of a sudden supposedly retaken with an absurdity of an idea (the drink) that stinks like a quick scam given the total lack of credibility of the anonymous "Potcoin team". Nobody in his sane mind would SUPPORT IT IN THIS VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL COMMUNITY, but much less in the entire Altcoin arena in which this is a project most consider -justifiably so- abandoned and death for all intents and purposes. If anyone is serious about Potcoin, other than "rdyoung", it would be great. But a shred of minimal credibility is imperative. "The potcoin team" has none whatsoever.
I mean this could be managed worse on on deliberate purpose -and considerable skill at that-. More than by pot heads, by crack heads. Amazing is really to say the least.
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There's also NO wallet.dat anywhere in the potcoin folder in the program files. Where do I find those?
Windows: type the %appdata% in stat meniu ant it will show up AppData folder in which somewhere is stored Potcoin wallet, blockchain and so. Thank you for the help. Now I have put the wallet there and shows the transactions, but remains offline, out of sync and 117 weeks behind because I am not able to put in any nodes. I keep getting the "Method not found code - 32601" message Thank you for trying to help and if there's anything else I'm not doing correctly, please let me know. |
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CryptoChainer.com has the latest PotCoin blockchain, available for download. I agree that you should stake this one 24/7, if possible. How do you stake it? I opened the wallet and there are no active connections to the network... You won't be able to stake your coins if your wallet is not updated to the latest blockchain height. The boostrap would be helpful to make it easier to download the whole blockchain. Then add these nodes to your potcoin.conf if you have no active network connections. addnode=76.27.123.66 addnode=208.66.68.130 addnode=68.197.68.250 addnode=173.183.179.144 addnode=86.133.247.145 addnode=216.146.143.177 addnode=24.220.150.22 Anyone needing the bootstrap can find it here https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/3ZFxNGbUcJF8vF25DY25JVqrTG5AGR5PSOCiMLI9fnG?ref_=cd_ph_share_link_copyIf the bootstrap gets outdated please let me know and I will refresh it. Going to push a new one up there now so its as up to date as possible. For a list of active nodes folks should keep an eye on https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pot/#!network click on the nodes link a list will popup that you can copy/paste into your potcoin.conf When you say "bootstrap" you mean a new wallet, right? what happens to the old one, is it reduced to the 'wallet.dat' file? If so, will the new "bootstrap" look for that dat file by itself or does it have to be directed to it or inputted in the thew "bootstrap"? In what screen do you input the working nodes? and why are they not included in the new wallet ("bootstrap") so it does it by itself as it should? Oh and when you try to open the potcoin-bootstrap file, you get the message "Windows cannot open this file..." Is this making things absurdly difficult or what? No the bootstrap.dat is NOT a new wallet. Its a quick and easy way to sync your wallet with the network. Instead of your wallet pulling down each of 1million+ blocks from other peers it loads it from the hdd. I do have a quick start pack at that same link with the exe and a batch file to launch it, I also have a conf to get people started. I could very easily update that conf with a known list of peers from cryptoid but it would only be valid as long as those peers have an active wallet connected to the network. We need more people running wallets so that we have more nodes, this is way crypto is designed to work. Thanks. But that doesn't help someone like me a lot. What do you actually do? Do you open (install, since it installs every time you open it) the wallet and it looks for the "bootstrap" by itself or otherwise how do you include it in the wallet install? and then how do you add those nodes? Or it isn't necessary to add the nodes because they are included in the "bootstrap"? You don't have to look for anything. I have the bootstrap.dat 7zipped as a separate file, if you need to use it you can drop it in your data folder and restart the qt, the wallet will automagically start pulling blocks from the bootstrap. If you want to manually add peers you have 2 option, 1) you can edit the potcoin.conf that resides in your data folder and add each peer like so addnode=x.x.x.x, you can also copy/paste direct from the list cryptoid provides for all of their supported coins. 2) you can use the same code addnode=x.x.x.x in the debug console to add them. There are enough active wallets that if your having issues getting connected its on your end, I would check your firewalls and routing on both your system and your router and make sure that options like UPnP are active on both. As long as you have 8+ connections your fine. Two things: 1.- the data folder is a subfolder of the test folder and it doesn't have a potcoin.conf file in it. There's also NO wallet.dat anywhere in the potcoin folder in the program files. Where do I find those? (I DO have a wallet.dat saved separately, though) And 2.- when I try to input the nodes manually in the console, after the copy/paste I get this message:  Method not found (code -32601) |
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CryptoChainer.com has the latest PotCoin blockchain, available for download. I agree that you should stake this one 24/7, if possible. How do you stake it? I opened the wallet and there are no active connections to the network... You won't be able to stake your coins if your wallet is not updated to the latest blockchain height. The boostrap would be helpful to make it easier to download the whole blockchain. Then add these nodes to your potcoin.conf if you have no active network connections. addnode=76.27.123.66 addnode=208.66.68.130 addnode=68.197.68.250 addnode=173.183.179.144 addnode=86.133.247.145 addnode=216.146.143.177 addnode=24.220.150.22 Anyone needing the bootstrap can find it here https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/3ZFxNGbUcJF8vF25DY25JVqrTG5AGR5PSOCiMLI9fnG?ref_=cd_ph_share_link_copyIf the bootstrap gets outdated please let me know and I will refresh it. Going to push a new one up there now so its as up to date as possible. For a list of active nodes folks should keep an eye on https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pot/#!network click on the nodes link a list will popup that you can copy/paste into your potcoin.conf When you say "bootstrap" you mean a new wallet, right? what happens to the old one, is it reduced to the 'wallet.dat' file? If so, will the new "bootstrap" look for that dat file by itself or does it have to be directed to it or inputted in the thew "bootstrap"? In what screen do you input the working nodes? and why are they not included in the new wallet ("bootstrap") so it does it by itself as it should? Oh and when you try to open the potcoin-bootstrap file, you get the message "Windows cannot open this file..." Is this making things absurdly difficult or what? No the bootstrap.dat is NOT a new wallet. Its a quick and easy way to sync your wallet with the network. Instead of your wallet pulling down each of 1million+ blocks from other peers it loads it from the hdd. I do have a quick start pack at that same link with the exe and a batch file to launch it, I also have a conf to get people started. I could very easily update that conf with a known list of peers from cryptoid but it would only be valid as long as those peers have an active wallet connected to the network. We need more people running wallets so that we have more nodes, this is way crypto is designed to work. Thanks. But that doesn't help someone like me a lot. What do you actually do? Do you open (install, since it installs every time you open it) the wallet and it looks for the "bootstrap" by itself or otherwise how do you include it in the wallet install? and then how do you add those nodes? Or it isn't necessary to add the nodes because they are included in the "bootstrap"? |
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CryptoChainer.com has the latest PotCoin blockchain, available for download. I agree that you should stake this one 24/7, if possible. How do you stake it? I opened the wallet and there are no active connections to the network... You won't be able to stake your coins if your wallet is not updated to the latest blockchain height. The boostrap would be helpful to make it easier to download the whole blockchain. Then add these nodes to your potcoin.conf if you have no active network connections. addnode=76.27.123.66 addnode=208.66.68.130 addnode=68.197.68.250 addnode=173.183.179.144 addnode=86.133.247.145 addnode=216.146.143.177 addnode=24.220.150.22 Anyone needing the bootstrap can find it here https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/3ZFxNGbUcJF8vF25DY25JVqrTG5AGR5PSOCiMLI9fnG?ref_=cd_ph_share_link_copyIf the bootstrap gets outdated please let me know and I will refresh it. Going to push a new one up there now so its as up to date as possible. For a list of active nodes folks should keep an eye on https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pot/#!network click on the nodes link a list will popup that you can copy/paste into your potcoin.conf When you say "bootstrap" you mean a new wallet, right? what happens to the old one, is it reduced to the 'wallet.dat' file? If so, will the new "bootstrap" look for that dat file by itself or does it have to be directed to it or inputted in the thew "bootstrap"? In what screen do you input the working nodes? and why are they not included in the new wallet ("bootstrap") so it does it by itself as it should? Oh and when you try to open the potcoin-bootstrap file, you get the message "Windows cannot open this file..." Is this making things absurdly difficult or what? |
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CryptoChainer.com has the latest PotCoin blockchain, available for download. I agree that you should stake this one 24/7, if possible. How do you stake it? I opened the wallet and there are no active connections to the network... |
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The catastrophe is not "waiting to happen", it has already happened. And it's perpetuated every day with the absurdity that is the 10% a month staking rate. What a waste.
DC, I know this seemed easy, familiar territory, but your efforts deserve so much better...
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Once again: everything in this abomination is at the whim of Territo or whatever his name is. Only MTR accepted? Why? Why not BTC or, indeed, fiat. If people were to see any value at all -which they will not- like everything else out there you can pay for it with plastic, with fiat in cash or with digital currency. Why would a platform that has always been conceived as a subscription based tool be any different. There's no real marriage here and the only binding tie is the whim of Territo who, if it were to have any success -and it will not, because it is a terrible idea-, would logically want to at least get his investment back and some profits to show for many many months of efforts... MTR is a copy/paste clone, a joke really at 90% Territo owned and sraking at 10% a month. With nothing whatsoever behind it.
Worthless.
Not sure why I'm responding, but anyway... It's obvious you have a problem with Rich, and a problem with the distribution of MTR, and nothing I say will change that, so I won't even try. But, the rest of your argument - why only MTR, for example. Let's make that a wider example and ask that about every coin. Why would anyone want to use any coin to purchase anything? And if there's no reason anyone would, well, why are we all here? Is there any value in an "in-house" currency anywhere? Like an in-house currency for platforms like Twitch or Minecraft? That all depends on the size of the audience. Now, I don't ever expect ToshiDesk to have an audience that's more than a tiny fraction of those, as the crypto world is small. But suppose it does gain wider use, by branching into a white-label situation where it is embedded into multiple sites (the first of which we are currently negotiating). And suppose we decide we want to continue to have MTR be the in-house currency for it. All that does is grows the market for the coin. And I would imagine it has the potential to grow the interest in speculation for the coin as well. I don't expect that any of this will "convince" you of anything as your agenda is pretty clear, but the rest of the community might be interested in what I say. I didn't join this project because of MTR, I joined it because I saw and still see potential in the application. But I do see potential for MTR to grow along with it, and have "dreams" of where MTR can go - technically - to use more advanced blockchain technologies that will also expand its value. That's a discussion for the future, though. As far as the "he controls 90%" argument - yes, he does control the keys to that, and yes, he could dump at any time. But I control the source code for the application. I'll pull that in a minute if he doesn't do what he agreed when I first agreed to work on this - to use the premine only for purposes that would grow the value of the coin. We may never find that necessary to do, and could destroy the premine, or we could just keep it sitting on the sideline. But it's not something I expect to change any time soon. Oh I can tell you EXACTLY why: you are responding because you think you have a good, positive answer to one of my criticisms. The 90% premine. "If he touches it, i'll retire my code immediately ". Now isn't that just peachy? So instead of one individual controlling over 90% it will be TWO individuals. Both bent on bein 100% honest and not to cover their expenses and get a bit of compensation for their work, right? oh and by the way, Rich, by hos own admissions, has already "touched the premine" to "help with the expenses... even as t these levels of non-volume. But since you make the best possible argument AGAINST the project, lets dig a bit: your main interest, concern, etc. Is the application, toshi desk which you hope will be adopted and subscribed to I n big numbers. Well, most of what td offers was already on your website. For free. How many subs did you have? That would be as good starting point... but lets be real generous and assume that people will buy the white platform and in an epic act of belief, that they would accept the use of MTR as the only form of payment (you cannot really believe that, can you? Really? Why?). That would put a lot of MTR out there, right? Wonderful! Lots of demand, right? Well sorry but no, WRONG. Because the more MTR out there, the WORSE actually because many many more coins would be staking at the absurd 10% monthly rate (which you forgot conveniently to mention), therefore flooding the market with many more coins than will be necessary to cover the most optimist need imaginable. And that's being deliriously optimistic because, really, why would anyone want to purchase toshi desk to begin with and, much less, a copy/paste hackjob of a coin like MTR, that brings absolutely nothing to the table, doesnt add -and subtracts a lot- any value to toshi desk? Oh wait, later on you will code into it some kind of "smart contract" that would make all the difference, right? Not enough of those already there, right? Look DC, I know you mean well. And I know it's only human to be enticed seeing those coins Rich pays you grow exponentially month to month. But I know you are intelligent enough to see by now that this is a catastrophe already happened with no possible way to any progress as long as those fundamental absurdities -the premine and the 10% monthly- remain in place. Oh and not only I dont have anything against Rich, I actually like his wavering -yes, wavering- determination. It is just that this whole idea, sadly, is simply terrible. And the plan followed so far, beyond terrible; it's an abomination. |
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Once again: everything in this abomination is at the whim of Territo or whatever his name is. Only MTR accepted? Why? Why not BTC or, indeed, fiat. If people were to see any value at all -which they will not- like everything else out there you can pay for it with plastic, with fiat in cash or with digital currency. Why would a platform that has always been conceived as a subscription based tool be any different. There's no real marriage here and the only binding tie is the whim of Territo who, if it were to have any success -and it will not, because it is a terrible idea-, would logically want to at least get his investment back and some profits to show for many many months of efforts... MTR is a copy/paste clone, a joke really at 90% Territo owned and sraking at 10% a month. With nothing whatsoever behind it.
Worthless.
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The levels of idiocy here are simply amazing. Mirror, mirror...
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Do you do that regularly, subject yourself to your mirror reflection's opinions? You may have, among many othrr issues, a split personality problem, you know? Some of the other more evident issues include a severe lack of brain cells, I assure you. No one with half a brain could possibly be lured to a project like this... let me repeat the basics: 10% stake PER MONTH. 90% owned by a single person. A copy/paste clon with nothing whatsoever to bring to the crypto table. Oh and toshiCrap -barely related- which will never ever be paid to use by anyone other than a dozen of pennyless losers.
Now back to your regular "consultations": Mirror, mirror... you just cannot invent this stuff.
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Personally I cant understand how people can still call this all a scam. MasterTrader has typed almost 2 bibles full of comments to please the community.
MTR has a market cap of just under 5k. MasterTrader has not been able to dump any of his coins since the start of this whole project. He's not earning any cash in exchange for all his efforts.
If he would be a scammer, he would be the worst scammer in the history of mankind.
ToshiDesk is probably real, I am gonna give it a chance and I have patience.
You are partially right and partially wrong: This is not a scam, just a terrible idea overall. That part, you've got right. You also have right the part of "MasterTrader hasn't been able to dump...". Partially. Because what you got wrong is precisely that:MastrrTrader has taken every opportunity -and thera have been extremely few- to dump coins. Admitted by him. You can figure out what would have happened by now if, for example, there were volume of 10 Btc or more a day, can't you? But, beyond that, I'm sure you can figure out the prospects of a coin 90% owned by a single individual and staking 10% A MONTH. OH and no, this does NOT have a valuation of "under 5k", as you put it. It has a valuation of between ZERO and maybe 1k being quite optimistic on the 1k part. Which is, evidently, the valuation it merits. nobody cares, you are butt hurt because you want mtr so cheap! you claimed " why would anyone ever buy mastertrader coin" , but as you already said you bought in months ago. hypocrite and idiot! everything you say is just thoughts not facts. go home butt hurt boy. No even trying you could be more pathetic. I bought this shit the one time it was very briefly in the top ten in volume. Many shitcoins like this and many P&D scams do get in the top ten. And I buy them all as part of a strategy, a much bigger one, that, generally, produces positive trading results. The targets vary and for this one was set at double since the investment was so small. It is of no consequence whatsoever because the figure is as insignificant as this exercise in absurdity is. |
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Personally I cant understand how people can still call this all a scam. MasterTrader has typed almost 2 bibles full of comments to please the community.
MTR has a market cap of just under 5k. MasterTrader has not been able to dump any of his coins since the start of this whole project. He's not earning any cash in exchange for all his efforts.
If he would be a scammer, he would be the worst scammer in the history of mankind.
ToshiDesk is probably real, I am gonna give it a chance and I have patience.
You are partially right and partially wrong: This is not a scam, just a terrible idea overall. That part, you've got right. You also have right the part of "MasterTrader hasn't been able to dump...". Partially. Because what you got wrong is precisely that:MastrrTrader has taken every opportunity -and thera have been extremely few- to dump coins. Admitted by him. You can figure out what would have happened by now if, for example, there were volume of 10 Btc or more a day, can't you? But, beyond that, I'm sure you can figure out the prospects of a coin 90% owned by a single individual and staking 10% A MONTH. OH and no, this does NOT have a valuation of "under 5k", as you put it. It has a valuation of between ZERO and maybe 1k being quite optimistic on the 1k part. Which is, evidently, the valuation it merits. |
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I dont care where children -and pennyless idiots like most here- play their games. Paper trading in the stock market makes sense because the potential trades -or virtual trades- could in fact have happened in the real world where thousands and millions of trades and huge volumes allow them the get through while in the altcoin um iverse, as clearly explained in my post, it's an absurdity since you cannot buy or sell ANY amount at a specific price because there's simply no volume ths t would allow it. Since idiots need clear examples, let's paper trade MTR: to buy even as little as 10k you would need to pay on average probably around triple what the last trade was. If you were to sell 30k, you would drive the price to single digits (or sell them off the exchanges) to rich at 777 sat. Get it now? The same applies to practically every coin out there but the top 2 in volume. And even those top 2 would be seriously affected by sizable buys or sells. Get it now?
Now pennyless children, back to your school patio games...oh boy ...
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This is so incredibly ridiculous... virtual trading now. So you can play pretend like if you were 5 years old. So you "buy" 5 BTC of shitcoin 1 @ 100,000 satoshis and then you sell them @ 110,000 satoshis for a nice, quick 10%... right? In no time you will have made a virtual fortune and toshiCrap will even qualify you as a top trader... then you go into reality and find out that, if you purchase any coin in any (minimal) amount you will have to pay much more than what the virtual game tells you and when you want to sell, no matter. What the last trade was, you will have to sell for much, much less or you will be stuck being a bagholder... just like everyone who had the misfortune to ever purchase MTR... wow Rich, I'm appalled, really appalled at the absurdity of your ideas. It's really hard to believe anyone older than 7 can believe somethtlike this brings anything positive to this project. Amazing.
Ooops, and I guess I just fudded my own holding, right? I'm sure you believe that's he cause no one has even the slightest interest in MTR or toshiCrap. Well, some people are beyond reachable levels. No need to engage further. Really.
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A "Whale"? Really? What stuff are you smoking? the volume of MTR hardly ever reach two decimal digits on any 24 hours period (most such periods move 2 cents of ONE BTC). Boy Rich, you are beyond deluded...
Now please, post another dozen screen caps, it's pathetic but visually somewhat interesting...
I've watched this fella continue buying for weeks. Not sure who it is, but this person is not selling. A whale in my eyes is someone that slowly accumulates at a strategic pace, and not a bat frenzy non profitable high volume rate. You would never know that, because you are a trader that fuds his own positions, and then tries to back them up with some sort of reason. You are the deluded one buddy. Keep on hating on our success, hope it helps you sleep at night. Take care, MasterTrader777 First, I don't do fud. Second, it's called honesty. But how would you know? |
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although one of the users, Microsoft, just started ceasing to accept it as payment), like all shorts of other electronic payment options.
Not true! It was a mistake that the news agency's picked up on. They continue to accept BTC as always. “We continue to support Bitcoin for adding money to your Microsoft Account which can be used for purchasing content in the Windows and Xbox stores,” a Microsoft spokesperson told VentureBeat. “We apologize for inaccurate information that was inadvertently posted to a Microsoft site, which is currently being corrected.” If this is true, I stand corrected. I was aware of what was reported on the news recently -about a week ago-, not of the apparent correction... |
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A "Whale"? Really? What stuff are you smoking? the volume of MTR hardly ever reach two decimal digits on any 24 hours period (most such periods move 2 cents of ONE BTC). Boy Rich, you are beyond deluded...
Now please, post another dozen screen caps, it's pathetic but visually somewhat interesting...
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