And thereby precisely lies the problem. Which part of "no one knows about solarcoin in the solar industry" you chose to not understand? Furthermore, which part of the "being insulted by the current non-value of the solarcoin promotion" you choose to ignore. The solar industry, has grown 9-fold in the last 2 years in many places of the planet, with governments doing the heavy lifting and carrying the burden of u[p to 30% and more of the total costs, to PROMOTE adoption and installation, buy they are stupid, right? You, on the other hand, are the fucking genius that believes that this is going to even be around at all -under the present idiotic circumstances- even 2 years from now, right?

Like I said: Thereby lies the problem. And why this project -which was originally a great idea- is a joke, actually.

When such an unsavoury character as Ashdrake posts in a thread, you can tell 2 things have happened:

1.- The crazies are running the asylum.
2.- The project has gone to shit.

There's no simplest, 100% indicator.

Now, for the truth:

1.- Drak has spent most of the 600 BTC he got in the ICO (peculiarly, no one has even mentioned the stack of VIA that he got for himself and, of that, the amount he is still holding, which is quite interesting in an of itself).

2.- Of whatever is left, I know for a fact -through his own words- he's willing to "invest it in exchange for corroborated results". Which is "interesting" since he wants assured results previous to investment, which is, in reality, a denial of the will to invest, since no one can offer corroborated results without actually investing prior.

3.- The only thing available for promotions, projects, whatever, are those 1 million VIA Drak is holding that he got from the sale of that other thing XCH or whatever.

4.- Nothing, technically or otherwise, will happen to VIA in the near future. This is it. Peter Todd will continue being paid $4,000 a month until Drak decides he doesn't want to pay him anymore. Either way, he will continue doing nothing for VIA, just like he has so far.

5.- I anticipate, at the risk of not being right, that Drak will announce any time now that he has contracted the services of a PR firm. This will mean NOTHING at all, except the waste of a significant amount of money. Specifically, it will mean that such PR Firm will send a few press releases to publication in the PC industry and that some of them will actually publish/post those releases (that no one, no one whatsoever ever reads).

6.- True to his trajectory, Drak has reached a point at which he will be first to admit he has no idea how to further this project in the only meaningful, measurable way there is: Valuation. He never had any idea about that. No projects, not even general ideas as to how to create either buzz or, more importantly, penetration/adoption. He remains clueless about all of it. So do all the people who, so far, have come with personal, separate projects for which they "need help/time".

Consequently, the project will continue languishing while the pretense of "sound tech" holds... which is rapidly dwindling.

But don't mind me, Drak think at this point I am simply "coughing and puffing"...

I know of at least one individual hat is very happy with this price levels... Vlad to Vlad I believe is already on it's way to own MILLIONS of "under 5000 sat" NAUT.

Oh he's going to be so rich some day.....

So the promotion, distribution... whatever one may decide to call it, of Solarcoin is a total disaster and no one is actually claiming the solarcoins they are entitled for... and this is a problem if not the major/only problem of this project. In fact, no one knows that if they install a solar system, they are entitled to receive solarcoins. I will go even further: Not even the professionals, know about this. Or Solarcoin as a project altogether. Is this, really, the main/only problem of this project? I would think it is...

Well, here is the EASY solution:

The reason no one knows about Solarcoin is, obviously, because no one cares. Who would even hear they are entitled to some WORTHLESS reward? In many cases it would be considered, first, suspicious (someone is trying to sell me something else...0 and second, an insult (if you are going to give me anything, that it would be at the very least, worth enough to buy a sandwich...). Solution: Offer a REAL REWARD. Who was the inventor of the 1§ per 1 KW? And why such absurd thing remains in place? If we REALLY want to be noticed, to be taken seriously, it is beyond evident that the reward has to be changed, from something halfway between suspicious and an insult, to something that can be considered a reward, even if minimal, but at least with some substance.

I propose that exchange will be hiked to 1 KW = 100 §. And lets see what happens. Since the previous rate has proven an absolute failure by any measure, I'm quite sure that new rate will make a significant departure. The hike also applies, obviously, to the commissions by those who sign people to the program, so it will be really worthwhile to get people to do it.

Yes, I know there are other considerations. I have considered them all. The FINAL result, since the current results are so disastrous, are way positive in ANY AND ALL scenarios.

So, foundation members, get the ball rolling. We are already WAY behind...

Not true. Nor you nor anyone is "buying more". Blatant lie. Another one.

And Carpenter, you should have learned already that blind support is not just ineffective but pretty misleading.  VIOR has very serious problems. AND NO COMMUNITY OR USER BASE SUPPORT. Just half a dozen bagholders staking, praying and wishful thinking, with nothing but lint in their pockets and neither the vision nor, much less,  the will to give out a significant portion of their worthless VIOR in order to make the remaining ones worth something AND move the project towards getting a real community and an actual user base.

In other words, back to where we were before. Because we just refuse to learn even the simplest of lessons. .. and, naturally, we will take the project, again, to the ground. Sad.

You and fayo are really funny guys. Hilarious in fact. Even hysterically hilarious...

And, I guess,  still counting on a few bagholders whom to keep on scamming out of a couple more BTC, both here and at Pink. Amazing shit indeed. Even at the level of less than half a dozen people total. Wow.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not the only difference. .. actually there are no similarities whatsoever between you and me.  Among other things I discovered many years ago the difference between optimism and blind stupidity.

That is just wonderful that all of you are so enthusiastic about keeping it the way it is... now how about to donate 15% of what you own to make it happen? Because it is no going to happen just because, you know...

The lesson would be equally wasted on you. You are also not exactly the sharpest knife in the kitchen. .. But both of you will eventually get it, no worries.  The hard way, of course.

Someone is teaching a lesson. Unfortunately the pupil is simply not very smart at all...

As for the ICO money obviously drak considers it his. That's the long and the short of it.

Just for your information I never, ever lie. First.  Second,  whatever KORE has "achieved " is not worth anything as clearly reflected in the price.  Those are by the way FACTS.

Perhaps more importantly KORE has a dev that is as much an insufferable ahole as the current VIOR one is... which is a warranty of total failure regardless. No matter if he invents a way to make calls with my dick, ok? Therefore VIOR has nothing to gain associating with such individual in any way. And furthermore it is my opinion that KORE is a project well on the wait to its total demise. I take you won't have anything against me having my own opinion, right?

Not only I don't have any idea what's in store for KORE, I could care less.  I'll tell you what I do know though: going from one idiot to another idiot who doesn't even speak English is NOT any kind of improvement, just stepping up the idiocy level.

Another thing I know for sure: Kore has not achieved anything of any value under its idiotic dev in (what in crypto is an eternity ) over 9 months. Nothing of any significance will be achieved either in the next 9 months.  Or 9 years, for that matter.

I will repeat once more the only path to follow if this community wants to save VIOR. Take over. Hire a pay-for-play dev and get moving on the resources provided and financed by the community.  If that doesnt work nothing will.

The absolute nonsense and amazingly pathetic levels of begging reached are beyond embarrassing... to be seen to be believed... VIOR is  WORKING project that in no way benefits from merging with a lost cause such as KORE which sports a dev with not only worse attitude than the one VIOR still has (?) but who doesn't even speak English.

If VIOR is to be saved,  it will be a community take over with the hiring of a real dev who will bring to the project the transparency and efficiency that the current one lacks. There won't be any merger and it is VERY GOOD that there won't be one.

VIOR doesn't need to work, as a calling device everywhrre. It works where it works. And yet, as is, has more going for it, more use than 99% of the rest, KORE of course included. It's up to us bagholders to save it, not anyone else.

One word: Solarfarm. worth more than 10 timer the current market cap of SLR. In just a few days. A Thailandese guy who cannot even speak or write English.
And yet, he has achieved in a few days what this pretentious project hasn't been able to even remotely achieve in over a year. Food for thought, isn't it?

I don't want to be completely negative here but are there are signs of any progress anywhere in this project? Please DO point them up, ok? How is this being distributed to new users (beyond the exchanges, of course)? What is being actually done to ease the process of claiming rewards for proof of generation? Get this and get this very clearly, alright: People who instal systems in their roof, in a vast majority, will NOT claim those rewards, much less promote it, under the current circumstances: No one KNOWS Solarcoin exists. No one wants to download a wallet to their computers, especially given THE FACT that no one knows what the heck is Bitcoin, much less what the heck is a "wallet" (the digital kind) and even less a cryptocurrency like SLR somehow capable to be linked and produce rewards to their solar systems.

It is IMPERATIVE that the whole process is:

1.- Clearly explained, in layman's terms, to those people who are installing systems on their roofs.
2.- That those people are targeted  and reached so they are made aware of the fact that they are entitled to SLR rewards.

There are a number of ways to achieve this. Many, in fact. From printing fliers and distribute them to homes with systems in place to contacting the very  firms that sell/install the systems to offer it as part of their incentives. From a MUCH CLEARER explanation on the solar website, to adwords . But perhaps the most effective would be if SLR owners/enthusiast would be incentivized to actually do the walking. Knock on the doors and explain, live and in person, the convenience and rewards. 10% incentive is NOT cutting it. perhaps a lump sum on signing, will do the trick. Reviewing currents situation though, since IMPERATIVE since it is not working nor yielding any results as a consequence.

Price is being hit in the exchanges. Volume is practically non-existent and all signs point to the demise of the entire project. Because, although I know some are "working" on it, the appearance is that nothing is being done, no progress is actually made and, in fact, any new project in the field, even those with no reach or potential, would take the space by storm since SLR is actually insignificant, of no consequence.

The currency aspect of the project need re-vitalizing. Direly. POS, speed, security, adoption... whatever. Promotions, bounties, features... signs of LIFE!

But, perhaps more importantly -for it'd reverberate on the currency, is the actual, real world, distribution to the people for which the coin was created in the first place and that, so far, have been and remain robbed from  what is theirs rightfully: The reward that Solarcoin offers  to those who do the big jump and go solar.

And since probably some would look for the easy, computer-coach answer to all of this: Talk is cheap, I WILL do the walk: Make better, instant incentives and I will personally walk my -and other- neighborhoods and talk to the adopters. Sign them up. Give them understandable paperwork (perhaps an actual card with a balance in SLR already? they are very cheap and would promote the project better than most other alternatives...) Get the thing actually moving, achieving measurable results. Ok? Many would do it in their neighborhoods also.

Lets do it... or resign ourselves to SLR being a semi-abandoned hobby project of no interest, value or relevance to anyone.

 

Contrary to your wishful thinking-painted perception, many people in crypto respect the fact that I always tell the truth, regardless. And even you will concede that an overwhelming majority of coin projects rightfully deserve the harshest criticisms, even the very few that are not outright scams designed to take the money right out of the hands of people, well... like you. But enough of me. Convenient as it would be for you, in this particular case, that my personal characteristics could somehow serve as a ticket to validate the absurdity of your support for this project, it would serve a bastard purpose, don't you think? After all, everyone, no exception, that has put money in SFR has lost the vast majority of it already. That is a FACT, sorry, regardless of whatever shortcomings you would want to attach to me.

But you ask a couple of questions and, as usual, I will answer them truthfully: Why is this hilarious? Well, that even at this very late stage of the game you -or anyone- would believe there's even a semblance of a decentralized marketplace in viable, practical form, to be implemented by this dev in this project, is not just hilarious, it should draw hysterics, really. For reasons so beyond obvious, I would simply refuse to elaborate, ok?

The second question is a bit deeper in scope and anyone at all with something between their ears, would understand that, if anything, I try all the time, have for many months, to prevent, precisely prevent, that misery to occur. I have been telling everyone here, for months now, and since the price was 5 times above current and even higher, why they shouldn't be backing this project. Hopefully, some paid heed to the free, honest, advice and save themselves considerable misery. That's the (only) purpose.

The fact that the delusional wishful thinkers such as you somehow convince themselves that miracles will happen and no matter how clear the indications, they will be proven right in the end by way of amazing riches that never, ever, have or will materialize -check your track record, ok?-, cannot obviously be helped no matter the amount of proof or otherwise clear indications offered.

So I don't enjoy your misery nor that or anyone. But your case, in particular, cannot be helped, I'm afraid. The hilarious hysterics, though, are more than warranted.

That isn't just funny, it's actually downright hilarious...

Because you dedication, your 24/7 wall-to-wall crusade the divulge ill-informed conclusions brought in by your personal hatred, has obviously misfired. As expected. And in time enough. So no, I do not feel sorry for you at all. I fell sorry for the legs of your chairs that must be chewed up all by now.

Have a nice one. Life, that is.

I know how you feel.

I wish I could say I feel sorry for you. I won't.

Don't forget to wake me up -if I am indeed alive by then- when that happens, ok?

Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, the truth is that this coin is dying. It only had speed going for it, to begin with, and now speed is simply irrelevant, therefore there's no reason for it to survive. No one wants it and everyone that had (cheap or free -via mining-) coins, wants out. Therefore, what you call "IMPLOSION". iT IS MORE THAN ANYTHING LIQUIDATION, PEOPLE GETTING OUT AT ANY PRICE THEY CAN GET. I believe it is over for UTC and price will continue sliding down, with a remote possibility of maybe a hic up or two on way to oblivion.

Like NAUT.