As long as MasterTrader holds those 90 million shares (or whatever), there's no reason whatsoever for the price to be above 0.00000018.
Probably even less.

Some still have hopes for this crap? Amazing. It was, and remains, transparently obvious from the get go this was a trainwreck since it brought absolutely nothing to the table and pretended to extract from crypto the benefits of a free ad campaign. Just how long it has to be until everyone realizes this unavoidable evidence? Geez!

While AltcoinUK is quite the basket case, he happens to be right: This, just like JINN and NXT itself, is a clear ponzi scam.

Not a lot unlike the other he supports, Gadget, mind you...

So let me get this straight: People will buy MTR to pay Mastertrader for the subscription... so the only one selling, other than whatever is being mined, will e Mastertrader. Not just what he collects from users but also the tens of millions he keeps from the instamine. I must be getting something very wrong because people this stupid ceased to exist, I believe, centuries ago...

Yep, giving that metric -not to mention your spot on track record-, after the completed boomerang trip of the P&D, you probably should be loading up... to keep on with that sterling record of yours. Funny indeed.

Got you. Andorra. Albania. Idiotstan...

A few tweets saying what, that NAUT was going to be the new currency of Germany?

OK, pump is done. Now what, back to below 100?

Interesting to see the "big" wall at 298 being taken down. Will there be a follow though? It looks good, if only volume would pick up... but interesting never the less for the first time in a year.

Wow. I had to read this twice...

You should be shot on sight like the rabid dog that you are.

A.mazing.

Point one: W3C membership. If you joined under the pretense the company you started, with your own money, you actually BOUGHT the membership because your loser company never sold anything, never created anything and never attracted any investors. Show that registry where other supposed investors are listed and the amounts they invested. I researched it months ago and found evidence of three attempts in which no one except another Zpardi -probably "T"- invested. The three companies have had the same address and no employees nor record of income or, if any, nemial and meaningless. LOSER. With big high capitals. This individual also has joined every local, national, regional, whatever bitcoin-related "organization",  losers all. So not wrong, perfectly right, regardless of tricks.

Point two: Producing anything and listing it in github as open source, regardless what it might be, has no PROFIT or SPECIFIC use case. I don't care if part of it or all of it or none at all is used to create the next coca-cola, ok? Nothing will ever come out of it in the way or MONEY, alright? And you said this was an attempt at making money, right? You are in all the wrong company, the company of total losers (and the idiots that support them). Experienced software engineers? Where? what have they done? Who has ever employed them -for pay- and at what level? These are very simple questions that can figure in any resume of an 18 year old, where are those credentials? LOSERS.

Point three: Refer to point one. A simple Google search will offer plenty evidence of what I have posted regarding TZapardi.

Point four: You know nothing whatsoever of what my personal or professional experiences might have been. ZERO. Nor I want to bring up my resume since I am not selling it or anything supported by it for that matter. I stated months ago, when you tried to recruit me for this project under very false pretenses of being under employment and significant monthly pay, that it wasn't viable at all. And posted some of the many reasons why. Everyone who reads this is perfectly aware now of just how exactly right I was about it EVEN THOUGH, technically, the porno video broadcasts were -and are- perfectly possible. Similarly, the ... rest? (what is it, a cheaper way to opening your garage door from the curb, of monitoring your alarm system, selling some snake oil as Viagra? What?) is just vapor, pure and simple. Vapor that, again, you try to desperately support in the only hope of being able to at some point recoup your investment at the expense of some bigger idiot, just like you pretended on twitter you partially did.

No I am not wrong and you know better than most that I haven't been wrong yet -not any major accomplishment, just basic use of common sense-, in this or other projects (and there are a substantive number of them I have debunked publicly). you just don't have any skin in the game anymore in any of them and still do in this one.

But I will let you and the other idiots enjoy your pretension and your fantasy of riches and let the time and the common sense bring you the reality, again, and the realization that I was in fact right from the very beginning, since further discussion, based on blatant dishonesty, is pointless. You are selling snake oil, vapor, nothing else. And so is Tzapardi and the other "developers". Once again, NOTHING will ever come out of it. ZERO. You just need a bit more time to start admitting it since you realized that is the reality quite a bit of time ago already.
 

As usual UK you are lost in hyperbole and throw out there vague concepts as if there are some specific representations behind them. It's snake oil, ok. Let me be specific: open source = FREE. As in no money, no profit. Ever. No matter who uses it.

DECENTRALIZATION. WTF? it isn't viable. ON ANYTHING. It doesn't work. The law catches up sooner than later. And who, for legitimate purposes, needs it? Still believing broadcasting porno is viable ? Come on...

INNOVATION: tech is innovated every hour of everyday. None of it as a result of either decentralization or (yet) crypto shit. the tech is in sensors, microchips... CONTROLLED and REGULATED and PATENTED (ask Samsung ). The innovations are already progressing, every second, toward wearables, drones, self-driving cars and a myriad of other CENTRALIZED AND REGULATED AND PATENTED AND CONTROLLED and, most importantly, USEFUL and SELLABLE things.

BLOCKCHAIN: its a FREE tech. Nascent one. Bloating is in the process of being resolved and then and only then-and when it is 100% secure (pipe dream?). Sine it doesn't cost anything,  of course it has a lot of people interested. It doesn't mean anyone that comes up with solving those two problems via open source will make a single penny off of it. Clear now. Meanwhile, only a bloating ledger, useless in practical, reliable endeavors. Clear on that?

TZAPARDI and his three iterations of the projects of companies with no employees but himself and the same home address (his): I reiterate: anatomy of a loser. Put any ribbons you wish on it. Just like this absurd attempt at getting money, regardless how small, from the likes of you and other idiots. Sorry but it's gone. Puff.

This is NOT, contrary to what you have tried to convince yourself of,  rocket science but pure common sense: you can already set up your home or office's temperature from any internet connected device at no cost. And about another thousand "things" of the internet that have no intrinsic value but ADD value to products and services. Gadgetnet having even a minimal part in this, pluuuuhse... what are you talking about? What experience? The experience of loser "enterprises" that didn't attract ONE SINGLE INVESTOR as the case of tzapardi is? Come on...  you need to read a bit more and understand a very simple concept: anyone capable of coding is just a low pay potential employee, nothing else. I don't care if he joins "standards organizations" or a bridge) club. And a coder who has failed more than three times at starting ANY kind of business is a loser who is probably also a bad or at least mediocre coder, nothing else. But even if you get Buterin, you have to have an idea to direct him to what to code, whats the final journey. The use case that will grant payment for. None of that is in a significant way in the industry today and it is quite unlikely it will be for some time to come. And i guarantee you no useful advance of any kind, tech or otherwise, will ever come from either the losers at gadget net or the scammers at IOTA.

Case rested.

The problem is not the total lack of business acumen of both the dev and the Tzapardi guy -in his case much worse for he has been trying for several years and has been unable to achieve absolutely anything at all-; the problem is that there's not even a VISION here. An idea. Much less a workable one. The "W3C project" is absolutely meaningless. ANYONE can be a member -they welcome anyone- and has no practical purpose in the case of Gadgetnet. None.

Ok, just like the exercise in absurdity that was the porno cameras, equally absurd is any and everything they have ever mentioned for it has been -and very few-, copies of things that are already fully available and have been used for decades in some cases, SUCCESSFULLY. Like hospital monitoring, broadcasting, etc. All of that is just idiotic hyperbole with zero possibility of ever work EVEN IF, technically, actually works for they have to deal with issues they have no idea whatsoever how to face, such as security, reliability, rules and regulations compliance, and many others. Put in simpler words, all they believe they know is that a network of computers, IF permanently connected to the internet, can be reliably used to transmit digital information (packages). Which every average 7th grader knows by now. And these two losers have the absurd pretension of making a business of it. Laughable.

But if it all wasn't absurd enough, they have concoct this idea of creating a token with which to lure the vitally needed owners of those computers connected to the internet since, without them nothing is possible... oh, wait, they cannot just trust that those guys -losers all, don't forget- can have enough computers connected, right? So they actually have to go to Amazon and pay for big servers so the connection remains reliable (although still insecure. And unregulated). There goes the neighborhood (the cheaper alternative to current true and tested -and affordable- services that have been reliably provided for many years... you follow? Chances are ZERO. NONE. At least the scammers at IOTA have an idea. They figure with time people is going to subscribe to a bunch of services online and they are willing to provide the tech that will allow the collections of those subscriptions on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly or yearly basis... except that neither Microsoft nor Adobe nor any other company already collecting subscription fees has any need or use for a third party provider of fees collections. Specifically, there's no need, nor ever will be, for such third party product... but, since the purpose of the scammers is not to provide any product or service with practical purpose in the end, but just to create another step in the pyramid so more idiots will continue giving them their money, as such an scheme, it not bad. Not bad at all.

As for the other 700 crypto projects, I am a bit more optimistic. First of all I don't know enough of all of them to blanket term them all as having zero possibility. I can see many uses for the blockchain that can -and should already- be practical and providing income. I can also see use cases for limited -but risky and profitable- use cases in the dark net, illegal stuff... And I definitely see a use case worldwide for a crypto currency (bitcoin, unless they mess it up ... and I'm afraid inevitably they will to some extent or other), as, well ... currency. Not token for conventional or unconventional business but as currency to purchase things and services, from betting (legally) to ordering stuff online from a very limited amount of vendors. I see as a potential use case the marijuana industry. Big and certain to become really huge in the very near future. But they don't need scammy cryptos around, they will just use Bitcoin as a preferred alternative to dollar, euro or yuan... kind of a philosophy stand. I doubt adoption is going to go lower and expect it to be significantly higher as millenials dominate more and more the demographics and new generations of libertarians join the fray. It will be a slow adoption but will grow to be a kind of dollar alternative worldwide. The other 699? Afraid not. Agree on that one (to the limited extent of my knowledge of them).    

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gilpress/2016/01/27/internet-of-things-iot-predictions-from-forrester-machina-research-wef-gartner-idc/#2715e4857a0b47fd28476be6

And a total loser like the Tzapardi guy and the other children (not to mention the scammers at IOTA), are going to do anything,  anything at all, in this field? If you believe that you deserve fully what has already come to you.

What the ... heck is that insidious scammer "come from beyond", doing here, just provoking the easily provoked "AltcoinUK"? Amazing, truly amazing...
UK, tendency that he has to "embellish" some stuff here and there (and everywhere), happens to be right this instance. NXT is indeed a scam in which the dozen or so big holders have been systematically unloading millions of coins for almost 2 years -and continue relentlessly- to get out of Dodge as soon as possible  and with the most cash possible; that Jinn whatever thingy was simply another step on the scamy pyramid to distract and give time to the unloading. And this IOTA absurdity is yet another chapter in the continued course in how to scam the most moneypossible from as many idiots as possible.

The above said, chapeau to being able to fool so many morons. Hard to believe your obvious scams still fool people but, truth be told, it still does. A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.

You should all remember as long as Mastertrader holds all those coins and the rate of return is at openly scam levels, this will continue to fall -although it is almost impossible to go any lower for if you want to sell right now even a very modest amount, you'll have to sell in the low hundreds.

Remarkable lack of financial 101 - quite frankly plain stupidity - from Mastertrader. This project is cooked already. Done. Dead. There's no way it can bounce, none whatsoever.  Stick a fork in it.

Oh and by the way, Toshi desk or no Toshidesk for it is irrelevant.  It will never be worth anything at all.  Ever.

Any particular reason why I should "go back" to Cryptsy? I am more of a Bittrex kind of guy but I do have an account at Cryptsy too...

As for XPY, I have traded it a number of times... with mixed results but hardly a fan boy... although I'll be the first to admit that i find Garza's level of idiocy quite buffling.

And, case in point, surprising and humongous levels of if idiocy here -and in crypto in general- are more the norm than the exception... as you just evidenced.

Oh you are of that other camp? I have stated many times that my real identity is Batman, though. As such, I have great expectations for my next movie. I don't know if that will answer your question in a positive manner... The fact you are here in and of itself is an indication that probably not.

But remember: Batman. Occasionally, Bruce Wayne...

Since they are full or your lies, asshole, I understand your concern about those private conversations being made public. But they haven't been. Yet. No need. By now everyone knows that you blatantly lied -and made significant offers- to try to get me involved in helping this project. Not only I was skeptical from the get go and REJECTED the substantial "offers", but also explained quite clearly why this "project" was completely inviable. The porno models stuff is already out for it would have never worked, of course. But now it has the Tzapardi involvement that is, evidently, the kiss of death for this guy has never ever succeeded at anything, not that with or without him was there ever even the slimmest of possibilities. And you and your investment which, minimal as it is, is quite lost i'm afraid.

But, once again, you are right in what regards IOTA the 24 boy and the Belarus java programmer that wants to shut you out betting 50 btc of the ico money he just got from idiots like Albert.
NOTHING WILL EVER COME OUT OF ANY OF IT. Not on this and not in IOTA.

Tired of idiots, scammers and lying assholes...