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261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: December 23, 2023, 02:05:23 PM
Yes you are right thought, not all. There's definitely someone out there who actually claim they've won and they actually won but not all gamblers are the same. I thought the topic was something like the streamers who live stream playing on a gambling site and actually won, most of them are paid by the gambling site and I am not sure maybe they do something to make them win all the time or maybe because of the big bankroll they have. Well, that's a good example of gamblers claiming that they win but never did actually win. Grin
Everything you see online, especially from Influencers who are promoting gambling applications or websites, isn't always legitimate, in my opinion. Because they stand to gain even more from the promotion, and the site management will pay them as you mentioned. Unless they can demonstrate in real time that they were actually playing the game and winning a significant amount of money. in order for us, as gamblers, to be aware of the methods and strategies they employ in the game they endorse.

For this reason, a lot of gamblers have fallen victim to online fraud.  I don't think these sources are all that trustworthy. Unless a friend who I know, and I trust introduces me to the game. Regarding the topic, there isn't much we can do to change the delusional thinking of gamblers who insist they win while, in fact, they lose; instead, I think they should see a psychiatrist in order to become well and receive assistance in cutting back on their gaming. However, as gamblers, we ought to be aware of our betting limits and maximums.
262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 23, 2023, 12:15:24 PM

It is because of the temptation from the sponsor that desperate gamblers are willing to follow the suggestions given to them so that they will receive money from the sponsor who will finance their gambling. This should not happen to us because it will only put us at risk where we might not be able to win easily. Unfortunately, there are still many people who are trapped by the sponsor's persuasion and make people take out gambling financing so they can immediately start gambling. But after a while of gambling, they see that there is no chance for them to win more than they lose. They will regret that they have accepted gambling financing from sponsors but it will be too late to stop because they have to keep playing until they get the final result. And if they can't win or even lose, they must be able to return the loan money to that person. Otherwise, they will have even bigger problems.

That's right, hopefully we can avoid things like this and hopefully we won't be easily tempted by the persuasions of gambling sponsors.
If there are still people who are tempted and want to accept advances from sponsors, in my opinion there are two reasons, namely they only see it in terms of luck which they themselves are not sure they will get or maybe they are forced to do it because they need the money and hope to get lucky here. .
And it is true that if someone cannot win, then he should think of a way to win or think about stopping and just returning the money he has used.

We can't say that because many gamblers are easily tempted to accept the offer especially if they have no money just like the amount offered by the financer, But at least let's be aware the possible effect and outcome of this kind of negotiation. In the end, you will still be able to make the decision on your own even if the financier forces you, it is still on you whether you will accept it or not, but hopefully the suggestions that people give in the forum will help.

Yes, of course, and this is one that is very difficult for all gamblers to do with the big offers or lures offered by some casino sponsors, obviously especially if the person's situation is in urgent need of money, and if the sponsor comes with a high amount of offer then it's like a big luck, gamblers will think that their luck is very good because when they are in need of money it turns out that there are sponsors who come up with quite lucrative offers.

I think it's quite difficult to take realistic action when the situation is like that, and the impulse of the situation seems to be one that they will choose without considering from various sides.
Whether someone chooses to take a chance or merely go with the flow truly comes down to his or her ego. It's not necessarily a bad thing to finance someone to gamble, but you should be selective about who you choose to support. Some people are referred to as victims because they may run, divide money unfairly, or lack understanding of the worth of money.
In this sense, the sponsors of the gambling are not the only bad guys; the gambler has some of the blame as well, since he is prone to temptation and may not be aware of his gambling limits. Business is a game; it's a win-win situation where you and I both win. And better luck the next time if I lose and you lose.

I am aware that everyone is enticed differently by the temptations that life presents. Therefore, it really just comes down to the terms that the sponsors and gamblers agree upon.
263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 22, 2023, 04:09:45 PM
It is frustrating when members of the forum allways talk about being addicted to gambling as a crime or offence to nature. In life no one is perfect, regardless of the level of discipline anyone have there is something that unconsciously they are addicted to. It could be drugs, sex, money, and smoking e.t.c. There are lot to mention, i just mentioned the ones that are popular and much in the society.

You should understand why a lot of members on the forum here buttress the point about excessive gambling and how it could slowly lead to addiction. Addiction to gambling or the other vices you mentioned is extremely dangerous and not to be taken lightly. It destroys lives and relationships.
People here always and rightfully talk about it cause they understand just how important it is to spread word and awareness on how addiction wrecks people.
It may not be against the law to get addicted to gambling or other things but society frowns and generally shuns addicts.
That's why it's important to remind users, especially if they're beginners, they will definitely play recklessly and go beyond their limits, so it's easy to become addicted to gambling, forcing them to continue playing to recover their losses. I think we all talked about the dangers of this addiction which really damages anyone, there are many cases of people committing suicide. because of gambling addiction, many family relationships are destroyed because of gambling addiction.

There are so many negative impacts that will be felt by people who are addicted to gambling, which is why it is important to remind anyone on this forum, whether they are beginners or active gamblers, that no matter who they are, everyone has the right to get advice from other gambling players who may have lots of experience on how to avoid gambling addiction. Don't take this matter lightly because it is very serious
Indeed, a gambling addiction may have an enormous negative effect on your mental health since it can create anxiety, sadness, and, as you mentioned, suicidal thoughts and behaviors. It has the potential to cause you to go bankrupt and destroy your relationships with other people. 

Hence, it's a good idea that OP opens this discussion to beginners so they can understand the road they've been on. Newbies are typically the ones who gamble excessively, especially if they win on their first game. This is because, naturally, they will be fascinated with the amount of money they can win and want to have more.  They should receive advice as it will be very beneficial to them, as they were also at risk from scammers. Being aware of significant changes in their behavior is also crucial since gamblers frequently put their passion for gambling above their relationships with friends, family, and even their jobs.  Their relationship has the potential to fall apart as they usually disregard the advice of others.
264  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 22, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
regretting is part of our mistakes but doing this over and over is already stupidity and foolishness , because first mistake is ok, second is wrong and third will always follow the same.
Because gambling has become a habit for some people and has a significant impact on their lives, it is the reason why they are still able to gamble repeatedly. They are unable to control their inner feelings of delight, excitement, and, of course, greed. that sensation of wanting to give up, but your brain tells you not to lose the chance or the money you could get from gambling. This is the reason why so many people fall victim to this mental trap and find it impossible to stop gambling once they start.

Understanding the risks caused by gambling is important because, when it comes to money, you could lose a lot and lose it again, to the point where you might end up stealing or taking out a big loan to support your addiction. In the end, though, you would gain nothing because your money would have been wasted.

Apart from the fact that they are aware of their limitations when they play, there's a chance that gamblers with strong self-control and self-discipline won't develop a gambling addiction. It is preferable when a gambler's family is always monitoring to remind them to gradually break that kind of habit.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When do you take out your investment when in profit? on: December 21, 2023, 05:50:23 PM
From my perspective, the decision of when to take profits from an investment is a personal one that is impacted by my personal financial goals and investing strategy of choice. It is also essential to set fixed profit targets and take into factors like the state of the market, the reason for the investment, and changes in your own finances. And its better if you regularly reevaluate the portfolio and make decisions based on pre-established criteria instead of emotionally responding to temporary changes in the market. If you’re in doubt, consulting a financial adviser would be recommended.

And also, if you are already satisfied with what you earn, just collect your profit.
Being blinded by the amount of money you get and expecting to have tons of it in another round of the investment and did not receive the same profit you gain from the previous transaction, well it can lead you in dismay. So maybe, just be thankful for the luck that has been given to you and have a self-control especially when your gaining so much profit.
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have any one had experiences with banned bank/providers because of gambling? on: December 21, 2023, 04:54:02 PM
I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

As to answer your question, is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?
When gambling, it's important to read the terms and conditions carefully and assess the website's readability as some websites may be fraudulent, copycats, or other issues.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?
The bank does, however, have a certain level of protection. Perhaps your younger brother has taken action against accounts that breach the rules of the website or game, particularly gambling, which may be subject to legal limitations. In addition, in order to prevent any problems down the road, your younger brother and other people must read and abide by the terms and conditions of their financial service providers. As for myself, I have never been blacklisted. I haven't personally been banned from any websites because I have only used other money transaction that work with the gambling platform. Gambling revolves in money and luck though.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 21, 2023, 04:04:06 PM
If Andreas knows that humans are very emotional creatures and irrational beings despite all the rational evidence against a particular cause or a particular action, then he'd understand that gambling doesn't care about one's rationalization irrespective of how intellectually sound they are. I find this analogy to be quite similar to those who engage in other addictive, self-destructive habits. This analogy fits with many others to explain the how problem gambling starts.
Humans are truly emotional in everything, that is somewhat a unique creation but because of that thing, we never win everything we want like winning in gambling. And that simple analogy gives an idea to the casino owners and takes advantage of our weakness. Addiction really exists because we let it happen and because we let our emotions control our minds. The solution to this problem is just ourselves, not the other person because we are the ones who manage ourselves, not them.
Emotion really takes part in gambling. Some people enjoy gambling because, in addition to being entertaining, it allows them to easily make money from a small amount of money that they invested in. If they are successful, their profits will increase with their chances of winning. On the contrary, though, you may truly express your lost feelings when you are a typical loser. You develop an obsession with attempting to recover the money that has been lost. There's a chance you'll develop an addiction to gambling if you are unable to discipline yourself.

Like he stated, "Gambling is a tax for people who don't understand the mathematics of probability," I can agree with Andrea's Analogy. It is true that you can never reasonably bet if you understand how probability operates. After all, why would you keep gambling if you are aware of the risks involved? Knowing that it can ruin you, drive you insane, and that you are just gaslighting yourself, you are blocking your brain from seeing anything but the enjoyment, amusement, and money you can make.
268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: December 21, 2023, 02:47:40 PM
It depends on a person's mental state, if they are lonely and gamble, they are not 100% addicted to gambling, it's just because of the frustration they experience and don't know where to calm themselves, even when they gamble, it's not just winning or losing, it could be an outburst. their emotions, usually people like this will recover after they have a calmer mind
Yes, you are right, this really depends on a person's personality, if they are lonely and they gamble and continue to do it without being able to control themselves, of course this will make them addicted and those who cannot control their emotions when gambling are played, of course this will happen. will have a bad impact on their lives and what is even worse is when they become addicted and also harm the people around them.
I don't believe that gambling addiction depends on the personality of the individual. Rather, it is about how a lonely person may turn to gambling as a means of distracting themselves from their loneliness. People who feel lonely will often search for activities to occupy their time or to forget about their loneliness. This is similar to how someone may turn to drinking alcohol as a way to be honest with themselves while alone and dealing with loneliness.
I am a person who believes that gambling addiction depends on the individual, because this is related to a person's character and has an impact on the behavioral decisions he will make, including in this case, the decision of people who are feeling lonely to gamble, this depends on the individual's previous habits.
In reality, gambling is addictive. Similar to gambling, becoming addicted to a particular game can also lead to addiction to other games. Loneliness may play a role in an individual's decision to gamble or engage in other activities. However, a person's ability to regulate their emotions, desires, and money hunger still plays a role in whether or not they develop a gambling addiction. Addicts to gambling might experience misery, particularly when they run out of luck and lose a significant amount of money.

In my view, another reason why individuals desire to gamble is because it's a quick and easy way to get money without having to put in a lot of effort, move heavy objects, or work outside on a hot, sunny day.

 Additionally, in my opinion, addicted gamblers frequently experience sadness, loneliness, distress, and stress. It's best to keep your body under control and remain composed because excessive gambling might be harmful.
269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 20, 2023, 06:44:51 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed before or not.
 
Reading about gambling addiction I don't think it's a new topic, but fitting to be in here, I just want to ask: between casino gambling, in-house gambling, and one-on-one gambling with physical players available on the table, which among these is more likely to turn someone into a gambling addict if the person doesn't have self-control in all his gambling activities?

In my opinion, a lot of gamblers become addicted to in-house gambling since, aside from being simply accessible, you can find a match that you are capable of playing there.

In my country, in-house gambling is highly common because it can be done in any place as long as it's a secluded area or you may decide where you feel comfortable enough to gamble. One of our traditional games specifically card games that you can find anywhere in the house is card games like poker, tong-its, etc. Especially if someone has passed away and before their burial, there is a vigil where people are supposed to stay wide awake and play card games to keep themselves from getting bored or falling asleep.

Returning to the topic, there are a lot of things that happen when gamblers can partake in in-house gaming, particularly if they are hanging out with friends or coworkers and simply want to have a good time. Of course, the atmosphere surrounding you and the opportunity to socialize with a variety of people who may become partners in the game would entice you to gamble internally.

270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 20, 2023, 04:16:40 PM
I’d say that gambling addiction has to do with the inability to do without gambling. So if you gamble all day or night because you can’t just stop then you’re addicted. But then, it is possible for someone to gamble very often but they aren’t addicted (they are trying to make more money but can sincerely stop if they wanted). With this, we can say that it doesn’t mean the time spent (though it can show in the time spent). But society thinks of it as addiction when you’re losing. If you’re always winning, they’ll talk about you and say good things and how you’re able to win so much. But when you’re losing? They’ll say you’re useless and just addicted to gambling. I don’t think this is uncommon.

The purpose why some people gamble is not because they like gambling and risk, it is because they don't have any option left and that is why they just gamble if not I believe no sane person will see a good method of making money with less risk and will want gambling, only a psychopaths' person who is demonic with money love will do that except for person that loves to spend his time and not doing it for the sake of money but the fun and entertainment as primary way to spend good time.

We have gamblers that were successful, made their first hit and they never return again. The money that was made was invested into real estate and they are doing fine today by not addicted or even looking back because as I said the other time, many people are doing gambling because they want money, as soon as the money is around and they have what they want, they don't come back again which is good, the second they have that thought, they might lose everything back into the platform.

Indeed, some gamblers, after they're done earning big in gambling won't have any reason to gamble anymore. These types of gamblers won't be seen as addicts like Oktana suggested, it's more of a habit and they can easily let go of gambling whenever they wish. However, it could be difficult for some gamblers to stop gambling after winning a significant sum of money through gambling, it's rare to get those who invest in real estate and set up businesses using their winning. Recently the results always show of gamblers who would spend all their winnings back to the house. Even when a gambler does that, it still doesn't sound like addiction if he's in control of all his gambling actions. Yet, if care is not taken the gambler would miss out on his control and then chase after the money he just spent on gambling.

We are not allowed to generalize in any gambling situation, but players do change in attitude and we may not detect who will become addicted to gambling. Whether successful or not. Hence, the question should be who has the most self-control, if a successful gambler doesn't keep up with his discipline he can fail and vice versa. And we shouldn't consider the general opinions of society on issues they know nothing about. Those who lose in gambling are being looked down upon, in society, and some naive players who feel inferior to those ill treatments spend their own money to prove to their friends that they're also winning in gambling. Putting themselves into a more hard condition and suffering. Players who do it for the fun would care less about the hearsay of their close friends. Most times we get those backbites when we lose, not just in gambling. It's a natural reaction, the loser has no parent, and the winner has so many parents. Gambling isn't exempted, provided money is involved.

It's practically true that some gamblers who have won a lot of money may feel compelled to win more due to the overwhelming pleasure and greed they experience, especially if they win an enormous amount of money. Some people who are aware of their limit will also gradually stop gambling since they are already satisfied and only want to recover the money they had lost from gambling. Some gamblers are also dissatisfied with their winnings and have experienced so many losses that they have begun to chase losses, which is what leads to addiction.

Gamblers' lifestyles are also influenced by their mental state, which is beyond our control. True, a lot depends on the people around you. It is common for many people to consider themselves to have a huge impact on your life, regardless of whether you gamble or not. Even if they believe that all you desire is to improve yourself, they will still criticize you for your actions. Up until the point at which you feel driven to convince everyone that you achieved, thinking, "I must prove something." being desperate to prove to everyone that you succeeded. If and only if you choose the right path, since some people tend to suddenly deviate from it.
The same is true with gambling; even if you win, many people will respect you and ask you about your strategies or offer you lots of advice on how to improve your game. On the other hand, if you lose, many people will doubt you and assume that you are an addicted gambler who only plays to win money but still ends up losing. Cry
271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 20, 2023, 01:43:46 PM
How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?

Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?

Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?

Is anyone doing this on here?

Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?



I would be a bit confused for a while and then begin to consider the benefits and drawbacks of financing someone I knew to gamble if they approached me and asked for my help in exchange for a share of their winnings. Naturally, in order to prevent future conflicts, I make sure I trust the person I lend money to when they gamble and decide how to split the winnings.

In the past, I used to be a gambler and experienced being funded by a friend. For example, when I want to gamble more but don't have enough money to do so, my friend comes to my aid and gives me free money, but in the end I always lose. I thus came up with a plan, borrowed some cash from friends, and sponsored a very successful gambler that I had noticed. I'm grateful that, despite my ignorance of his identity, he distributes the money he earns equally once we negotiate. It's my luck that he's kind.

Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
Even though gambling is not entirely dependent on luck, it also requires skills.  It's evident that I trust that person to gamble since they are more skilled than I am. Furthermore, I am aware that I have no luck when it comes to gambling, so why am I being so hard on myself when I can just lend someone money and take a cut of their winnings? All I have to do is kick back and cheer for him to win. Financing someone to gamble is not always a terrible thing, but you should be careful who you choose to finance. Some people are termed victims because they can distribute money unequally, flee away, or be ignorant to the value of money.
272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Local Base Or International Based Online Casino on: December 18, 2023, 04:49:19 PM
Cock fighting was quite famous in my country, and many people want to attend this kind of event, especially those people who like cock fighting. Whether it's online or offline, nothing can stop them from betting on a rooster fight. Even during the pandemic, I clearly remembered that there are still a lot of people gathering just to do a cock fighting event offline, and they were just going to a safe place (probably hiding from the authorities) or they will look for a somewhat hidden or mountain place just to continue their gambling activities.
I am not so fan of cock fighting because when I think about the animals that are abused and forced to fight, they are very pitiful to look at, and I cannot bear to see them dying and was being made as an instrument of selfish gamblers who only thinks of the profit that they can gain.

When this new online game came up, I felt relieved cause people will have another to focus on and will give them entertainment. I can say that Atong Ang was good at managing his business, although former president Rodrigo Duterte banned e-sabong in PH, he found ways to revive the hype of the people online. I am not sure if it will last long since the game is too easy to play, and we all know that people will get bored easily if they find it uninteresting.

 I still prefer the International online casino because aside from its wide range of global capabilities, it also has high profits, whether you like dollars or cryptocurrencies as your mode of payment.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 18, 2023, 01:51:45 PM
Yes, of course the wife should first give up gambling and then her husband should be made aware of the evils of gambling.  Because girls have less courage to take risks than boys but boys never hesitate to take big risks. Because of this, it is very difficult for girls to give up gambling to boys.  Because of this, it is more important to give up the wife's gambling. Because after giving up gambling, the wife can convince the son-in-law about its bad side and if necessary, she can put pressure on the husband and give up gambling.

A gambling addict husband can be stopped by his wife from gambling. Because every husband listens to his wife, so I think if a wife can explain the bad aspects of gambling to her husband well then it seems that a gambling addict can quit gambling very soon.  I have seen some family's husband and wife could not be happy in their family life due to gambling, they are always fighting and quarreling. We all know that gambling is not a good thing but still we become addicted to gambling without accepting it.

I don't think so that the husband can easily obey what his wife would tell him to stop into gambling. I've seen a lot like the situation you mentioned where husbands and wives keep fighting because of gambling and of course, the money that the husband spent to feed his gambling addiction. I’ve also witnessed a lot of scenarios where they sell all their assets just to bet and to feed their habit of gambling. The time will happen that they were amid deprivation and they were close of being broke. So, while it's still early you should be aware of the limitations and what may happen when you enter this gambling activity.

But if the husband is responsible for balancing his gambling time and his family time then there is no problem. Just like I said in my previous post in this forum, maybe they can make better teamwork and they still have time to make playing as their bonding as a couple.

My advice to all gamblers whether male or female you should avoid chasing losses and never gamble with money that you should spend for your living expenses.

Doesnt matter on which one would really be quitting up because on the time that both husband and wife are already that addicted with gambling then expect that it would really be a long time type of discussion or even quarrel or whatever kind of talking on whose the one to quit or wont really be talking at all about quitting since both are really that interested nor really that like on doing gambling.
This is why on this kind of particular situation or condition then letting them be on what are the things that they've been doing, they are the ones who do create their own fate towards finances
because time comes that everything would be messing up not just like on financial state but also with family relationship too as we do know that it would really be that compromises out such thing on such condition.

So, are you saying that they shouldn't stop gambling and just keep doing what they are doing even though their family is at stake? They can consult or ask for help to psychological therapy if they are too focused on gambling and close to being addicted.  Who will manage the family that they created? What if they have kids? and if they run out of budget, what do they have to spare for their day-to-day expenses?
If they keep fighting, what moral will the children get from their parents?. Parents are the reflection of their children's behavior, and they can be turned into what their parents are when they grow up.

That is if they even have in-laws or any concerned relative they have, better to advise them while it is still early if the situation is not that bad. so, one of the parents or both of them should quit gambling in order to save their finances and both can make a better parent. It will also save their marriage as well.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself on: December 18, 2023, 01:25:33 PM
You are right. When one gambler will go for gambling in most cases he will face issues with the emotions. But if the gambler cannot tackle it then it is natural that he will face loss Or his losses will increase. If you gamble with emotions, you will make wrong decisions to win again and again, and in the end it will be seen that the amount of loss is much higher. So I think always should avoid emotion in these cases and go into a strategy.
The more you can control your emotions while gambling, the more likely you are to win at gambling. I think gambling can be done if you have the right strategy to win. If a person can't control his emotions while gambling, he will never win at gambling.  I don't think you can. In order to win gambling, you must have a good experience with gambling and also have good luck. Gambling is easy as well as difficult gambling can make a person completely destitute and many people have become big people through this gambling.

Yup, because if you know the limit of your gambling capacity and you don't give in to your emotions, then there is a greater possibility that you will be more successful in your gambling. I mean you are more likely to win some people control their emotions in order not to be greedy and avoid chasing losses.

I agree that It is also important that you have more experience in gambling and know some skills, but if you don't have any ability to know this field then it is better to try first and test if gambling is really for you. Some people are only influenced by their friends or colleagues and there are also other people who are just imitating other gamblers knowing that they don't have much experience and in the end, they will be sad because they lose more than winning.

That's why as a concerned citizen, who knows the status of their lifestyle is also unhappy to think that the money that should be spent on their daily life is just lost through irresponsible gambling.
275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does match fixing concern you often? on: December 18, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
It can be concerning if there is a match-fixing that occurs in a particular game, especially in small league sports games, where there is manipulation happen. I've seen scenarios on YouTube specifically in football games where other coaches or players got paid by the other team or those who manage the other team just so they can win.

As a person who is watching the game you can really sense that there is something fishy in that game, and you basically know that the team you bet on play well but later on lose against their opponent that is not too skilled.
But there's nothing you can do but just accept everything, cause if is there no evidence then people might think that the game was well played. And you know too well that it was being cheated.

But if it is proven that there is match-fixing going on then everyone who is involved will receive disciplinary action like you can get a penalty, being banned, and might rot in jail.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 18, 2023, 03:53:36 AM

True, as a gambler, it will be difficult for you to win your money, it will be worse if you do this full time and you will only rely on that as your source of income. Knowing that gambling comes with risk, and gambling is difficult because you cannot predict it. Those who don't know how to balance and analyze the statistics and manage their finances wisely, therefore they will not make a successful career in terms of gambling.

On the other side, yes we can make gambling a successful career if we apply our knowledge and skills of the expertise that we have. For instance, working as a game developer by creating online casino games, slots, poker etc. Or maybe apply as an affiliate marketer like promoting gambling websites and casinos online, or you can be a casino manager. See, there are chances that some people can make a successful career in gambling but just make sure that the company or management that you are applying for has been functioning for a long time and check if they are successful through the years, for you to have a job in the long run.


Gambling is full of risks, it is not uncommon for those who want to start a gambling career with skills to be truly successful because skill alone is not enough to win various bets, unless you are a shaman who can predict correctly Grin gambling is very difficult to predict, even professional gamblers are not spared from losing, if you have just enough money and want to start a gambling career, especially in gambling that uses skill, you should abandon your intention because you will experience losses, is better to use the money for other business capital which is more certain to be profitable than gambling which provides profits not sure.


My point is that, if you apply your skills in the game that you are an expert of and learn its tactics and its flow then you rarely lose and only lose a little. If you don't know how to play the game, then of course you will lose more. In gambling, you should not rely on luck but also use your brain as well.  It is also crucial that you should really know how to manage your bankroll instead of spending your money aimlessly.

Anyways, you are right that it is better to use the money for business, but the problem is if you are not good at handling business then this will be going to lead you into bankruptcy. You should still study it so you can gain more ideas about what your business should be.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: December 18, 2023, 03:12:24 AM
Let's start with the simple choice: Do you consider yourself to have a gambling problem affecting your happiness, security, relationships, finances, etc? (Yes or No)
Now, here is something a bit different: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? Either you make enough income to call it "adult play", so you do not have real problems, and/or you simply stop for a long time. Then - months or years later - it gets worse again and you are in trouble.

(First question was above)
(Second question) Either way, when it's time to stop, how exactly do you do it? (For example) Change other habits, go new places, exercise more, stop drinking, simply "swear off" gambling... How exactly do you stop? Thank you.

 


No, luckily I'm not too addicted to gambling so it didn't affect me much in terms of my relationship with my family, and my finances since I know how to manage them well. But when it comes to my emotions, when I play, maybe there will be times when you will be sad, of course, more than when you lose the game you bet on, and you will also be happy when you win. But you should not give in to your emotions because that is one of the reasons that will affect your gambling. journey.

With regards to answering your second question, it is not that easy to stop your gambling habit then and now, of course it takes time. It was like there is something that finds your interest and curiosity as well, and then you start to try it beginning from little to little until you get used to it and you can't stop yourself from doing it.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 17, 2023, 06:42:02 PM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.


An interesting observation, but you need to clarify how your observations took place. Did the people you are talking about have the same conditions? What type of gambling was there, at what time, on what day and many other variables.
I think the point is that a rich person has a more free attitude towards money and is not afraid of losing it, therefore he makes decisions more freely, while a poor person is more pressured by responsibility

     -  This is right what you said, mate. Rich people, when they lose, are less concerned about the amount of money they lose compared to the amount a non-rich gambler loses. That's the difference between those two people.


Yeah, wealthy people (rich) have more advantages than those who are less financially well-off (poor). Indeed, rich people often have more money to spare and they can gamble higher amounts without experiencing financial consequences. and they have even more potential to gain a large profit because they would more like to take risk and place a large bet. They were more like into private gaming clubs or casinos that offer a higher stake. Especially if some of the rich people are fond of gambling then they were more likely to have more experience, knowledge and strategies that they can apply to gambling.

Compared to poor people some might be addicted because of greed. They may not control their emotions and be desperate for quick money that even if they were struggling financially, they will always find ways to gamble. There are also some people who borrow money and then later on have a conflict with the person they owe.
So, therefore, it is crucial to minimize the risk and only lose money you can afford.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 17, 2023, 04:42:59 PM
Yes, of course the wife should first give up gambling and then her husband should be made aware of the evils of gambling.  Because girls have less courage to take risks than boys but boys never hesitate to take big risks. Because of this, it is very difficult for girls to give up gambling to boys.  Because of this, it is more important to give up the wife's gambling. Because after giving up gambling, the wife can convince the son-in-law about its bad side and if necessary, she can put pressure on the husband and give up gambling.

A gambling addict husband can be stopped by his wife from gambling. Because every husband listens to his wife, so I think if a wife can explain the bad aspects of gambling to her husband well then it seems that a gambling addict can quit gambling very soon.  I have seen some family's husband and wife could not be happy in their family life due to gambling, they are always fighting and quarreling. We all know that gambling is not a good thing but still we become addicted to gambling without accepting it.

I don't think so that the husband can easily obey what his wife would tell him to stop into gambling. I've seen a lot like the situation you mentioned where husbands and wives keep fighting because of gambling and of course, the money that the husband spent to feed his gambling addiction. I’ve also witnessed a lot of scenarios where they sell all their assets just to bet and to feed their habit of gambling. The time will happen that they were amid deprivation and they were close of being broke. So, while it's still early you should be aware of the limitations and what may happen when you enter this gambling activity.

But if the husband is responsible for balancing his gambling time and his family time then there is no problem. Just like I said in my previous post in this forum, maybe they can make better teamwork and they still have time to make playing as their bonding as a couple.

My advice to all gamblers whether male or female you should avoid chasing losses and never gamble with money that you should spend for your living expenses.
280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 17, 2023, 03:14:46 PM
It's pretty exciting, making a successful career in gambling. If what you mean is to make gambling a basic job to meet the needs of a day-to-day life and hope to live a successful life and have a lot of treasure, I think it's very difficult.
However, if you expect big gains in gambling, like you win the lottery or get other big wins, it's still quite possible. If you have a lot of money, maybe you can make a gambling site. As a gambling site owner, maybe this can be a promising profession.

I also think that way, it will be difficult for gambling to be the main income in life because in my opinion gambling is not a place to make money, also with a win that is difficult to get and it is impossible to get a win always which is made the main income in life, big wins do exist but it is impossible to get every time we gamble, because the bookie is also not stupid so there is no way they will let gamblers win continuously.

That's right, if becoming a casino owner can be said to be successful in gambling, because if only his role as a gambling player is difficult for me to say successful. by owning your own casino and it must make a profit every day, there will be a profitable income. this can only be called success in gambling.
That's the fact that we don't find many gamblers who are truly successful, let alone use gambling as a source of income. It's difficult to make a successful career in gambling if you're just a gambler or user, unless you become a casino owner or gambling site, which will definitely be a successful business. to make a lot of money from gambling that is built, almost all casinos are always successful.

So you won't be able to make a successful career if you are just a gambler who in the end always becomes an addict or loser and that is the fact that we know, never make gambling a source of permanent income because that is clearly not the place, if you want to be successful and rich, look for a job or build a business to make money not be a gambler. because being a gambler will never be successful. unless you are lucky to get a lottery with a big prize.

True, as a gambler, it will be difficult for you to win your money, it will be worse if you do this full time and you will only rely on that as your source of income. Knowing that gambling comes with risk, and gambling is difficult because you cannot predict it. Those who don't know how to balance and analyze the statistics and manage their finances wisely, therefore they will not make a successful career in terms of gambling.

On the other side, yes we can make gambling a successful career if we apply our knowledge and skills of the expertise that we have. For instance, working as a game developer by creating online casino games, slots, poker etc. Or maybe apply as an affiliate marketer like promoting gambling websites and casinos online, or you can be a casino manager. See, there are chances that some people can make a successful career in gambling but just make sure that the company or management that you are applying for has been functioning for a long time and check if they are successful through the years, for you to have a job in the long run.

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