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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2023, 10:51:47 PM
Supercycle discussion...it did not happen in 2021, probably due to FTX, overleverage, etc.
Maybe this cycle and the next one would merge into one?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-supercycle-2024-investment-trading

It definitely was FTX and their fraud of keeping people from buying BTC to dump into shitcoins that kept Bitcoin’s price depressed during the last cycle. Will this cycle make up for it and put us back on track or did FTX set us back 4 years. I guess we’ll see if the market only goes up to $150,000 or if it makes up for the last cycle and shoots up over half a mil…

IMO, if the market can make up for the loss of momentum starting in 2021, preferably within a year or so, while the world economy keeps generating the needed fiat fuel, the party which FTX was crashing will likely continue. Emerging adoption on a broad scale, like mentioned in the article Biodom shared, would help for sure. We'll see how man contibuting factors and dynamics will come together, and if they will drive each other (directly or indirectly), it could be enough to start off the "Supercycle" missing the blowoff-top, but further increase of value.
We might live through one or a few more cycles to finally witness Bitcoin's scarcity effect kicking in.

EDIT: I missed that completely...
Quote from: Bittrex-Email
Important Update Regarding Bittrex Global

Dear OOM,


It is with great regret that we write to inform you that Bittrex Global has decided to wind down its operations. This decision was not made lightly, and we understand the inconvenience it may have on our valued customers.
...

I had no funds on Bittrex, however. Still, an exchange less to sell some of my corn near next ATH  Angry
282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2023, 03:53:06 PM
The main reason, for me, was that i got the actual price at the time of ordering, regardless of the price when paying (usually later, depending on the payment method).
Second reason was that the price at the broker got averaged and updated every 90 seconds, which allows to catch dips while the prices already goes up on exchanges already.
Something like an arbitrage-proximate time machine  Cool

Another bonus, whichever address the customer sends the Bitcoin to, if it's his exchange wallet, the original fiat buy is tainted.
And of course, you don't need to have money lingering in your exchange's fiat wallet to make a quick buy (preferably if bitcoin price goes south).

All of your above arguments are summed up in my first two: “KYC, or …”, but let’s not forget the hefty broker’s fee.
That said, it’s nice to see you posting something sincere for a change.


quid pro quo  Kiss

OT: Got lost all the day in trying to fix my PV inverter after a firmware upgrade, when it refused to connect to the grid.
Support tickets, factory resets, analytics, research... no time to check BTC price  Roll Eyes
In the end, there are problems at the grid supply, the mains frequency is out of range most of the time. I have to call an insider i happen to know, he works as a tech for the power company. Seems related to the new firmware. I think it's a bug, because the inverter should limit export power, not refuse to sync to the grid at all.
I'm going to end this day with a few extra drops of my freshly filtered cannabis oil for recreational purposes Cool It has a ver different effect compared to vape and/or smoking, really warm and peaceful. That's probably why US cannabis-oil users often call their stuff "medicine".

However, nice to see King Daddy above $37k again, after the Binance/CZ story... Didn't do much harm to the market, all in all?

People are cheering because banks got a Bitcoin Custody Licence.  Lips sealed Lips sealed
Shouldn't they be afraid about it? Will you store your Bitcoin in banks? What makes them better than any CEX available on the market? And what about non-custodial wallets?  Sad

People are rooting for anything that can raise the price of Bitcoin, and I guess they think that the Bitcoin logo on the door of their bank will mean that the price will explode. Also, in order to be afraid of something, you need to understand it first, and how many people know about Bitcoin more than they have created an account on some CEX and added their bank account for buying/selling. When you tell them something about private keys and the risks they face with custodial solutions, they look at you in amazement as if you were talking about atomic physics.

In addition, all these custodial solutions when it comes to banks are (so far) exclusively related to services for institutional investors, not for ordinary people. In other words, banks want to compete with companies like Coinbase that provide just such services.

I guess they don't want their customers to hodl or use "their" BTC, but encourage them to trade for fiat, so the banks can make some money off trading fees aka. "custodial services" (pun intended). Banks are still fiat, stocks and metal whores. I don't expect them to change too early...
283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2023, 08:37:11 PM
Couple of years back, I was contemplating why some peeps like OutOfMemory and Arrie would use brokers to buy Bitcoin.
Not much of a brainer is it now? KYC, or … or!

The main reason, for me, was that i got the actual price at the time of ordering, regardless of the price when paying (usually later, depending on the payment method).
Second reason was that the price at the broker got averaged and updated every 90 seconds, which allows to catch dips while the prices already goes up on exchanges already.
Something like an arbitrage-proximate time machine  Cool

Another bonus, whichever address the customer sends the Bitcoin to, if it's his exchange wallet, the original fiat buy is tainted.
And of course, you don't need to have money lingering in your exchange's fiat wallet to make a quick buy (preferably if bitcoin price goes south).
284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2023, 01:18:30 PM
I always was under the assumption that SAFU is an abbreviation for

Safe
As
FUck

 Huh


Best comment:

"He's so pumped his hair grew back!"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2023, 11:12:42 AM
Daily Wall Observer 24 h recap
Take it away Buddy.  



I tried to do a clickable image, but not sure if my newbness or ignorance is preventing that.

Full size click here https://ibb.co/DRGyffX

EDIT: to fix link


looks OK to me.
286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: November 20, 2023, 06:13:53 PM

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com


Yeah buddy, GO!
We're all sick of sub $40k.
GO!!!
287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2023, 05:50:42 PM
Holy stock rally Batman! I can’t remember the last time my stock portfolio was so green. Definitely feels like a shift has been made in the investment world. A bit curious why Bitcoin hasn’t followed suit and gone up a significant amount today, but I guess after the recent rally the market needed a breather. Still good news that money is flowing back into equities.

Some indicator triggered on the S&P, which triggered only 17 times in about 80 years.
Zweig Breadth Thrust (ZBT). AFAIR i did already write a short post about that.
288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2023, 07:53:29 PM


Oh fuck.  I hate when I do that.  I wrote a whole post, and then I accidentally hit refresh, and that does not work out so well.


We all hate that. You got my sympathy.

Quote
I have a bit of trouble with the idea of keeping my mouth shut in a group, and surely there can be situations in which my attention is sparked such as some bitcoin naysayers who are spouting out nonsense or a shitcoin pumpener, so I might not be able to resist, and at the same time, if I am admitting to facts about knowing about bitcoin for nearly 10 years, then that is one thing, versus you are in a situation in which you have known about bitcoin for about a cycle and a half, right OOM?

I suppose if there are insiders and outsiders in the group, then the insiders are not looking to the outsiders for responses, and so in that case, it ends up being a lot easier to end up in the fly on the wall kind of role.

I am surely not going to disagree with much of any of the representations that you made, OOM, because really there are quite a few clueless folks in regards to bitcoin, but surely it is coming up in more and more conversations, and so sometimes we are going to end up running into folks with decent levels of knowledge.   

About a year and a half ago, I recall being in a line at a supermarket, and I guy in his mid to late 20s. maybe looking a bit like a backpacker type, asked the cashier if they accept bitcoin or something like that, and I really felt like saying something to the guy, but I did not, and I looked at the person who I was with and we even exchanged a few words.  He kind of reminded me of a kind of stereotype bitcoiner (maybe even shitcoiner, who knows?).. but at the same time, I cannot really know anything because I choose NOT to say anything. 

I remember another time at a booth in a restaurant in maybe mid-to-late 2016, I was with a friend and we were talking about bitcoin and going over some information, and a guy next to us said something like:  Oh you are talking about bitcoin, have you heard about X shitcoin.  I cannot remember exactly, but we exchanged a few words with him and then went back to our business, but we did not want to talk about bitcoin anymore until after we left the restaurant to kind of express a bit of annoyance at the guy for budding into what we thought was mostly a private conversation.. and a kind of then presumption that no one really knows about bitcoin.

I have no problem keeping my mouth not shut in a trusted, often private environment, debating with people i know or at least know that i can expect knowledge or openness at least. (pretty much like here in the WO, on a second thought)

Well, there's a close friend that knew about me being a bitcoiner, since shorty after i bought the first amounts of corn. He coincidentally bought some other, yet established shitcoin, so we were discussing out the two. He said he wanted to have a whole coin, not just a fraction, and that said shitcoin was rumored to be the next Bitcoin killer (oh yeah?), which in hindsight, was not the case  Grin
However, he sold at about 3x gains in the 2018 altseason, and he was satisfied with that, but he didn't want to continue investing, because it's so much stress and that all... "You can lose everything every day"... I asked him, if he didn't know that from the beginning, and he said "yes, but...".
I never told him an exact amount when i was talking about my holdings, in advance to rule out jealousy, which can really kill a friendship, later i said i had to sell "most of my corn" to finance the extension of my house, which was at least partly true, because i was speculating with a small amount of Bitcoin bought in 2019, a short while after the capitulation bottom and sold a few months later. We were staying good frens this way, and we still talk crypto every now and then.

The other one was an assistant in the company i worked for. He was an altcoiner, but really about equal BTC and fiat gains, making some money while building a stack. It was around the 2021 crashening. He was "consulting" his boss how and which crypto to buy, and it worked out for a while, and then he left the company. I was undecided if i should show my knowledge and opinions to him (and the boss), but i managed to favor Bitcoin without even mentioning if and how much cryptos i held, because nobody even asked.

On all the other rare occasions i always played the role of the educated nocoiner. This did fit quite good, because the other people were nocoiners at well. One dad was talking about his stock investments with another dad when i picked up one of my kids after school once, and dad A said out of the blue "I am about to buy Bitcoin next", and it was last year, so his timing wasn't that bad, at least no real FOMO, but i only kept listening without even looking at them.

I forgot another former friend (he broke up with everybody because getting mad and paranoid from amphetamines), whom i talked to about Bitcoin at the time when i didn't have any, but he was frequently using low 2 digit Bitcoin amounts to buy drugs via darknet. It was around $300 at that time. I was already knowing a bit more than about the basics of Bitcoin and decided to buy and hodl some for myself, but got distracted to do so for years by my fucked up memorization. 2017 i was doing better and after i found a convenient way to buy corn, i started to build my lil stash when the price was about $2800, which was the lowest price i ever paid for any of my Bitcoin holdings.
Not really lucky, but still kind of. I always was a humble guy, so i am satisfied.
I even learned about Bitcoin in the early days through curiosity, but i just fucked up getting things going, mainly because i ceased to function in 2012.

You see my mind is wandering quite a lot, i am dog tired, trying to get some sleep next.
I'll also skip the haiku today. #GN
289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2023, 08:56:04 AM
Jade looks like a good candidate for being the wallet to replace my ledger(s).

Passport is clearly the winner. The higher price is well worth it, too (IMHO).

A lot of work to do until next week, still found some time to visit a private party in a remote city, and i could at least talk a little about Bitcoin with some people (frens and frens of frens). I didn't reveal my holdings, i was acting like the informed&interested, critical guy, and i took away the impression that BTC is still quite under the radar in the sheeple society.  This enables BTC movements in two directions: More future potential to grow, which isn't sounding really new to you guys here, but also more potential for MSM and banks to seed more fear among the less informed and interested, to keep future buyers away.
Surprisingly, the "strongest" (in a negatively biased way) argument was like "nosy holders, that got rich by accident and dump on the little guy" (inspired by SBF news coverage) and unsurprisingly also the good old "ponzi scheme" came up in the talks, but interestingly a "bad banks" sentiment seemed to have established as well. Most participants were still drawn to gold.

OT: In between, as i needed to create a birthday present for a long time fellow stoner, i successfully created my first high quality THC oil, which proved to be high potent as well Grin, and will be used for more types of "functional food" (for potheads) like chocolate, peanut butter, bakery products. If THC would be legal where i live, i could create and sell a lot of useful products with good ROI for a living. I'll keep my eyes open for future career options, and i would accept Bitcoin, of course  Cool

EDIT: I also heard about "hard to get" Bitcoin in the discussions mentioned above, where i was able to debunk that, as i found out that nobody there knew about BTC coupons, available at post offices, and "BTC-ATM" were well recognized, but nobody tried them yet.
290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2023, 09:28:40 PM
Jade looks like a good candidate for being the wallet to replace my ledger(s).
291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2023, 09:00:06 PM
Stocks shooting up today along with Bitcoin. Looks like investors are expecting and end of the year rally and positioning themselves to benefit from it. Tech stocks seem to be doing rather well, so it wouldn’t be crazy to think Bitcoin could continue its rally for a bit longer. As ETF approvals near it will be interesting to see if it’s a buy the rumor sell the news situation or not. 

Zweig Breadth Thrust (ZBT) indicator was triggered on S&P, according to this stocks should continue going up for a while. IMHO
292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 10, 2023, 09:13:41 AM
Well, it has happened. I got contacted by someone I know to pitch me on a shitcoin. That typically means the rally is about over with for now and a correction is due. Will that happen? Not sure. The first sign of a top is in for me personally though. As for my buddy, they’re betting the farm on SOL, which they also did at its peak in 2021. So I’m slightly less bullish now than I was yesterday, but long term I feel we’re still looking good.

Maybe an early bird, who will be selling the next correction and call cr**to a scam until 2025 ATH, when he will cash out his life insurance to buy in again...
293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2023, 09:02:20 AM
redacted triggers

What are you here for, then?
294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2023, 11:49:29 PM
Frist of all it's Bitcoin not Bljacoin. Your information is totally wrong and I recommend you to learn about Bitcoin first before saying things like that. Bitcoin never failed and from it's recent price you can see that how good it's getting each day. The news about ETF isn't scam and surely you'll see approved ETF's in 2024 with your own eyes. Anyone who knows about Bitcoin deeply will invest money into it but trust me they won't tell you about their investment. A smart person will pretend to be someone without a Bitcoin but who knows he/she may be holding 100's of Bitcoin in his/her wallets.

Forget this child. "Bjatcoin" is just disrespect and namecalling.
Nobody wanted to fill his 3BTC begging demands.
Now he is salty.

#sadfucks
295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2023, 02:29:00 PM

Spiritually aware human beings are capable of predictions and prophecies, in the 6th sense dimension/realm.


I quote that for future reference ...or for your psychiatrist

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lu
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296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2023, 10:43:55 PM
Did you know that you can trace every single satoshi using orderals? And that there's a market about "rare" coins, as ones mined by satoshi or used to pay the pizza?

I was out of this world for some time and this is by far the most fascinating news for me, but seems like it isn't getting much attention.

I scanned all my addresses to find if I have some rare sats from satoshi or whatever, unlucky I found only some palindrome and uncommon and a black uncommon sat.
I searched for "orderals", also combined with other searchwords, but i only got unrelated rubbish.
Mind to elaborate further, maybe spend a link or two?  Grin

I bet that in your "search" you probably got porn, too.. you dirty dog..  

Sounds pretty nasty to me, that "orderals" thing.. and for sure, some peeps are "into" nasty.

unfortunately no porn, not even a single nipple  Angry
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2023, 09:25:49 PM
Did you know that you can trace every single satoshi using orderals? And that there's a market about "rare" coins, as ones mined by satoshi or used to pay the pizza?

I was out of this world for some time and this is by far the most fascinating news for me, but seems like it isn't getting much attention.

I scanned all my addresses to find if I have some rare sats from satoshi or whatever, unlucky I found only some palindrome and uncommon and a black uncommon sat.

I searched for "orderals", also combined with other searchwords, but i only got unrelated rubbish.
Mind to elaborate further, maybe spend a link or two?  Grin
298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2023, 12:21:21 AM
thirtyfive thousand
i am not going to lie
well, i do like it

i hope we will see
further accumulation
before it goes up

when choppers fly low
there is room for going up
vroom, vroom, chop chop chop

fo
rev
er

#sunday
#gn
299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2023, 07:40:32 PM
Cannot is incorrect. Wantnot it is.
Why would i change my Bitcoin into useless fiat to buy me useless things i don't need?
But take this with a grain of salt, because i am very different in spending behaviour.
The fiat you turned some of your bitcoins into will only be useless if you spend it on useless things, if you spend the fiat on important things, it will be a good choice. The excess of profit from investment in bitcoins after it goes up can be turned to fiat and used to get other good investments like an investment in Real Estate etc. Real Estate also appreciates in value with time, so it is good for investment. By using some profit from your bitcoins to invest in Real Estate, you are diversifying your investment, and that is not something you will not want, or something useless.


The point is, i don't want to diversify Bitcoin. This is just my opinion. No need to argue against yours.
I am also fine if somebody uses Bitcoin for buying lifestyle stuff, callgirls, drugs, whatever. It's just not my usecase for BTC, that's all.
300  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 05, 2023, 09:42:01 AM
.... It's all entertainment, ....

Absolutely bro. Its why I love this here famous thread. And I got no one on ignore. Scroll wheel etc.

I used to use Ignore, but i almost always clicked to read. And i'm a freedom-of-speech advocate, i found using Ignore contradictive.

Better not zone out when your wife is talking, thats infringing on her freedoms according to you logic.

That's not the right comparison. If i tune my earbuds to (noise-)cancel out the voice of my wife, that would be following my logic then.
Zoning out is like scrolling down, imo. Me and my wife are always listening to each other, i can imagine that's not very common, but i remember ex-girls of mine that were mainly talking garbage and quite angry when i didn't really listen to them.
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