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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2022, 04:12:28 AM
just in case you haven't seen it yet...


If you want to know why Vitalik Buterin, the CEO of Ethereum, is having a psychotic breakdown and calling Michael Saylor a clown, watch this masterclass by Saylor on all the technical, economic, and ethical problems with Ethereum.
https://twitter.com/NeilJacobs/status/1553752187838382085
Lmao, is there a place to see the psychotic breakdown?

Psychotic breakdown seems a bit exaggerated.

I think he talks about this tweet
https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1553563862942633984



However, meth-head Vitalik might know a thing or two about clowns...



Wait is this for real? I don't really follow him, thought he was just trolling, but all purple with kitten mitts and kitty bag, i just don't know if there's coming back from that 
282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 10, 2022, 07:56:44 PM
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Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction

That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.


Certainly the whole argument is ridiculous. Is like asking Israel to make Mein Kampf compulsory reading at school or making Carl Marx a compulsory reading at Texans schools. They somehow keep on insisting that Ukraine should actually be praising and chanting about the main language of the state that is trying to annihilate them. Senseless at all point.

Not censoring all books based on a language != compulsory reading of a specific book, or that anyone needs to praise and chant anything.
Such a stretch, c'mon, you know better than this

Sure, let's make a chapter called "Stalin, the friend of Ukrainians" mandatory reading in Ukrainian schools. We do not want to censor anything do we?

Where's suchmoon yelling, false dilemma fallacy, when you need him/her?
You know there are options between compulsory reading of a specific book and censoring import of books based simply on the language. Would the book "Stalin, the friend of Ukrainians" be any better if it was written in English or Moldovan or Polish? Ban the propaganda, why touch scientific journals, kids books, and soap operas for grandmas? But think we all know the answer to that...

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You know Russia invaded Ukraine right?  They're handing out passports in the areas they occupy and bombing the areas they don't.  Putin literally said Ukraine isn't a real country.   The book ban you're talking about happened after the war started, not before.  It was a response to Russia trying to destroy Ukraine literally, and you're trying to make Russia out as the victim because they banned Russian books....in the middle of the war...Such a stretch, c'mon you know better than this.  You can't invade a country and then criticize them because after you invaded they banned your books.

Censoring of Russian language in Ukraine started after 2014 coup/revolution, so if we take that as the start of the war, then you are correct. Are there any other examples in the world where a country censors books based on the language they're written in? If you have to censor import of 60% of books already in circulation, then the war is clearly ideological and inside the population.

...Blah blah blah ...
This is called "protectionism of your own culture". If you want, you can listen russian content on russian resources.
...Blah blah blah ...
Bigger amount of Himars - faster we will get to the point where orcs will be left without artillery. And this is really not good why americans don't want to provide a bigger amount of Himars to us.

Might want to dial down on "cultural protectionism" when totally dependent on USA and EU.

What makes you think that USA goals are completely aligned with UA? Have you even considered that the goal of Americans might not be for UA to win, but just to administer the maximum amount of losses on the RU side (and consequently UA)? Will you concede that the losses will be senseless if/when RU takes Kharkiv/Odesa/Zaporizhzhia/Dnipro or any and all UA losses can be justified by claiming that they were actually protecting Poland from Russian orcs?
283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2022, 06:42:54 PM
Don’t believe Vladimir Putin’s hype. The Russian economy is not OK.

When facts speak, the gods remain silent. And the facts are quite indicative. The Blitzkrieg against the Russian economy has failed miserably.


Here's an actual paper, instead of  fake pro Putin opinions. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4167193

"Abstract
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine enters into its fifth month, a common narrative has emerged that the unity of the world in standing up to Russia has somehow devolved into a “war of economic attrition which is taking its toll on the west”, given the supposed “resilience” and even “prosperity” of the Russian economy. This is simply untrue – and a reflection of widely held but factually incorrect misunderstandings over how the Russian economy is actually holding up amidst the exodus of over 1,000 global companies and international sanctions.

That these misunderstandings persist is not surprising. Since the invasion, the Kremlin’s economic releases have become increasingly cherry-picked, selectively tossing out unfavorable metrics while releasing only those that are more favorable. These Putin-selected statistics are then carelessly trumpeted across media and used by reams of well-meaning but careless experts in building out forecasts which are excessively, unrealistically favorable to the Kremlin.

Our team of experts, using private Russian language and unconventional data sources including high frequency consumer data, cross-channel checks, releases from Russia’s international trade partners, and data mining of complex shipping data, have released one of the first comprehensive economic analyses measuring Russian current economic activity five months into the invasion, and assessing Russia’s economic outlook.

From our analysis, it becomes clear: business retreats and sanctions are catastrophically crippling the Russian economy. We tackle a wide range of common misperceptions – and shed light on what is actually going on inside Russia, including:

- Russia’s strategic positioning as a commodities exporter has irrevocably deteriorated, as it now deals from a position of weakness with the loss of its erstwhile main markets, and faces steep challenges executing a “pivot to Asia” with non-fungible exports such as piped gas

- Despite some lingering leakiness, Russian imports have largely collapsed, and the country faces stark challenges securing crucial inputs, parts, and technology from hesitant trade partners, leading to widespread supply shortages within its domestic economy

- Despite Putin’s delusions of self-sufficiency and import substitution, Russian domestic production has come to a complete standstill with no capacity to replace lost businesses, products and talent; the hollowing out of Russia’s domestic innovation and production base has led to soaring prices and consumer angst

- As a result of the business retreat, Russia has lost companies representing ~40% of its GDP, reversing nearly all of three decades’ worth of foreign investment and buttressing unprecedented simultaneous capital and population flight in a mass exodus of Russia’s economic base

- Putin is resorting to patently unsustainable, dramatic fiscal and monetary intervention to smooth over these structural economic weaknesses, which has already sent his government budget into deficit for the first time in years and drained his foreign reserves even with high energy prices – and Kremlin finances are in much, much more dire straits than conventionally understood

- Russian domestic financial markets, as an indicator of both present conditions and future outlook, are the worst performing markets in the entire world this year despite strict capital controls, and have priced in sustained, persistent weakness within the economy with liquidity and credit contracting – in addition to Russia being substantively cut off from international financial markets, limiting its ability to tap into pools of capital needed for the revitalization of its crippled economy

Looking ahead, there is no path out of economic oblivion for Russia as long as the allied countries remain unified in maintaining and increasing sanctions pressure against Russia, and The Kyiv School of Economics and McFaul-Yermak Working Group have led the way in proposing additional sanctions measures.

Defeatist headlines arguing that Russia’s economy has bounced back are simply not factual - the facts are that, by any metric and on any level, the Russian economy is reeling, and now is not the time to step on the brakes.

Download the visual slide deck accompanying this research monograph here: https://yale.box.com/s/7f6agg5ezscj234kahx35lil04udqgeo

Click here to read a brief summary of our research in Foreign Policy:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business"


If it's so "patently unsustainable" for them surely they should be able to provide a timeline, after which if their forecast doesn't come to fruition they totally discredit themselves and everyone gets to point and laugh? Or just "Soon™, hang in there" propaganda?
UN complains about "grotesque greed" by the oil companies, and G7 mulls options to restrict Russian oil profits...but key oil consumers China and India have stepped up imports of discounted Russian barrels to record levels. guessing pissing off China while in proxy war with Russia wasn't such a great idea.

284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 08, 2022, 10:41:40 PM
Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction

That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.


You seem to be confusing censoring 60% of all of the books on UA market based only on the language they're written in and censoring eight specific books.  

Why are you so stupid? Oh wait, let me clarify: From your link, it's obvious that Ukraine banned russian books import, not books itself. So you can translate any russian author into ukrainian and sell it without any problems.

In difference, books that banned in russia, banned entirely. It doesn't matter on which language you will try to read it.

I hope at least you get paid for your bs  Smiley

Funny how these two counter arguments are covering the full spectrum. From we're not fighting the language only it's content which is propaganda that brainwashes children (suchmoon), to we're totally fighting the language and not the content, content of any Russian book is allowed if it's translated into Ukrainian (johhnyUA)

Following that logic, should UA ban RU language sites on the internet? If RU music/radio/books are censored why allow RU sites? Why censor one media of information but not the internet?

Point being is if you're waging a war with a language you've already lost.

Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

When one country invades and the other says "we don't want your books anymore" it's absurd to claim "discrimination". Come on, master of whataboutism, find us some historic analogy. Like Russian imports of German books during WWII.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction

That's your conclusion, not sure why you're ascribing that to me. I'm sure there are many bad books issued in countries that Ukraine has good relationships with. I never argued otherwise. It's a tangent that doesn't mean anything in the context of restricting book imports from a country they're at war with.


Certainly the whole argument is ridiculous. Is like asking Israel to make Mein Kampf compulsory reading at school or making Carl Marx a compulsory reading at Texans schools. They somehow keep on insisting that Ukraine should actually be praising and chanting about the main language of the state that is trying to annihilate them. Senseless at all point.

Not censoring all books based on a language != compulsory reading of a specific book, or that anyone needs to praise and chant anything.
Such a stretch, c'mon, you know better than this
285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 07, 2022, 11:26:30 PM
Sanctions are working – whatever Putin says.

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Don’t believe Vladimir Putin’s hype. The Russian economy is not OK. With western sanctions jeopardising up to 40 per cent of the country’s GDP, Putin’s assurances of an economic pivot to the East are a sham. And his weaponising of gas supplies to Europe is the financial equivalent of strapping on a suicide vest.That, roughly, is the message of a major new study published last week by the Yale School of Management about the impact of sanctions on Russia. Yale, working with a team of international economists, has looked past a wall of Russian obfuscation and used real-world data from retailers, energy traders and investors to reveal a picture very different from the rosy image presented by Putin at the St Petersburg Economic Forum in June. ‘The economic blitzkrieg against Russia never had any chances of success,’ he told an audience that included a delegation from the Taliban. ‘Like our ancestors, we will solve any problem; the entire thousand-year history of our country speaks of this… Gloomy predictions about the Russian economy’s future haven’t come true.’

The Yale study provides the first comprehensive set of data that proves Putin absolutely wrong. Let’s start with the outright lies.
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The endgame of this war will be a battle between guns and gas. Putin is gambling that the economic pain of his gas cut-off will break western support for Ukraine before western guns break his army. But sanctions have opened another economic front where Russia is suffering far more than was previously thought. Putin can and does deny that economic pain. But illusion has a price. Economic crisis will soon enough become a political one.
https://twitter.com/PowerVertical/status/1555990540134617088

Remind me again in January when I'm sitting with 10 blankets and 4 hot water bottles about how we need more sanctions placed on Russia because the next round "will definitely work and stop the invasion".





You didn't read ore understand this article. Europe does not want to get blackmailed and showing balls, that will come at the cost of a thougher winter which is doable with gas saving plan.
The transition does not take that long. New liquid gas terminals beeing build. New deals from Azerbeijan/Turkmenistan. U.S turned into 2e world's gas producer shipping it to Europe.
Putin laughs now but not on the longer term.


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Russia already began reducing flows to Europe in the second half of 2021, with flows through the three main pipeline routes down around 20% compared with the second half of 2020.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/why-russia-drives-european-gas-prices-2022-01-21/


So looks like Russia has been preparing from 2021.

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- According to its Finance Ministry, Russian oil and gas revenues exceeded initial plans by 51.3% in 2021, totalling 9.1 trillion roubles ($119 billion). In October alone, revenues were 1.1 trillion roubles, or almost $500 million per day.

- Total budget revenues reached 25.29 trillion roubles last year, up from 18.72 trillion roubles in 2020.

- The Russian Finance Ministry had initially projected an oil price of $45 per barrel when compiling the budget for 2021. The price has instead averaged $69.
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- The Economy Ministry had expected an average natural gas export price of $156.3 per 1,000 cubic metres in 2021. Russian gas exporting monopoly Gazprom said in December that the price was likely to reach $280, with the final data yet to come.

- According to the central bank, Russia's total exports reached $489.8 billion in 2021. Of that, crude oil accounted for $110.2 billion, oil products for $68.7 billion, pipeline natural gas for $54.2 billion and liquefied natural gas $7.6 billion.
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- Russia ran a historically-high current account surplus of $120.3 billion, equal to 7% of gross domestic product, last year, driven by high gas prices. read more

- Growing volumes and high prices meant that the share of gas in Russia's annual fuel export proceeds increased from historic levels of 15-20% to 23% in 2021, which is still modest compared to oil, ING said in a note.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-oil-gas-revenue-windfall-2022-01-21/

So Russia is running surplus budget with oil at $45 and natural gas at $156,3 per 1.000 cubic meters. Lets check on those prices now, European gas is around $2000, and Russia's Sokol oil is at $88
And out of total of $490B exports, pipeline natural gas accounts makes up only $54B or around 11%. From that Turkey to pay for some Russian gas in rubles: Erdogan and Breaking ranks with EU, Hungary says ready to pay for Russian gas in roubles guessing Belarus and some other countries will continue to buy RU gas.

Ummm ok yeah sure they'll run out of money with these sky high prices willing Turkey India and pissed off China any minute now.


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The European Commission, the executive arm of the EU, wants to cease its buying of fossil fuels from Russia before 2030. And it has now presented a new pledge to reduce its purchases of Russian gas by two-thirds before the end of the year.
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“We could gradually remove at least 155 billion cubic meters of fossil gas use, which is equivalent to the volume imported from Russia in 2021. Nearly two-thirds of that reduction can be achieved within a year, ending the EU’s overdependence on a single supplier,” the commission said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/08/eu-pledges-to-cut-russian-gas-imports-by-two-thirds-before-next-winter.html

-Freeze/take all of Russia's international reserves to punish Putin
=Got it
-Make Russia default even though it has money to pay its liabilities
=Hmm Ok
-Europe wants to stop buying Russian gas to punish Putin
=Sure
-Europe can only reduce it's purchase of Russian gas by 2/3 before the end of the year. Any more before the winter and it would devastate Europe
=With you so far, Russia is going to loose 2/3 of gas exports this year and stopping it completely somewhere next year or there about
-If Russia decides to stop remaining 1/3 of the gas they'll be weaponizing gas supplies to Europe and would be financial equivalent of strapping on a suicide vest
=And that's where i loose you. So Russia should wait till next year to loose remaining 1/3 of it's gas export to Europe on Europe's terms, but loosing it now before winter would be a suicide for Russia? Now, how much lead paint i have to huff for this logic to start making sense?

Edit:wording
286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 06, 2022, 01:00:49 AM
I'd be hard pressed to come up with a dumber example as justification to put "severe restrictions" on books. Just because you found a book you disagree with? I'm sure there are no books in other languages that contain controversial topics? With such high standards for books, surely "mein kampf" would be "restricted" too right?  huh, of course not, doesn't even need an exception  Roll Eyes

whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabo ut fucking hell do they not teach you anything else in the Kremlin troll academy LOL

But yeah, if Mein Kampf was being used by Russians to brainwash children in occupied territories, the import restrictions would likely apply to it as well.

Ah whataboutism, there's no hypocrisy or double standard that it cannot justify. Weren't you taught that whataboutism cannot apply when creating laws? And is actually called discrimination in law. But i must agree it's a convenient tool to prevent population from questioning any and all laws.

If your logic leads you to the following conclusion, think it's safe to say that you're on the wrong side of the argument:
Masha and the Bear = brainwashing children, needs to be censored, require exceptions to import
Mein kampf = totally fine for unlimited circulation without age restriction





I'd be hard pressed to come up with a dumber example as justification to put "severe restrictions" on books. Just because you found a book you disagree with? I'm sure there are no books in other languages that contain controversial topics? With such high standards for books, surely "mein kampf" would be "restricted" too right?  huh, of course not, doesn't even need an exception  Roll Eyes

whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabo ut fucking hell do they not teach you anything else in the Kremlin troll academy LOL

But yeah, if Mein Kampf was being used by Russians to brainwash children in occupied territories, the import restrictions would likely apply to it as well.

Some better whataboutism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_governments



https://web.archive.org/web/20110626083725/http://www.minjust.ru/ru/activity/nko/fedspisok

You seem to be confusing censoring 60% of all of the books on UA market based only on the language they're written in and censoring eight specific books.  
287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 05, 2022, 05:42:07 AM
Banning books

Repeating this doesn't make it true. I'm sure great literary works of Russian authors can still be translated and printed in Ukrainian, and perhaps even imported in the original language under one of the exceptions.

Considering shit like this in children's books issued by the "liberators", the restrictions seem about right:

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I'd be hard pressed to come up with a dumber example as justification to put "severe restrictions" on books. Just because you found a book you disagree with? I'm sure there are no books in other languages that contain controversial topics? With such high standards for books, surely "mein kampf" would be "restricted" too right?  huh, of course not, doesn't even need an exception  Roll Eyes




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The Constitution of Ukraine is no longer respected for you?
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Good point wasn't even aware.



Guess technically Jews could always stop the concentration camps if they had majority in Nazi Germany... Cause you know discrimination and racism is always decided via majority vote

Only if the country is actually democratic and asks people about their opinions.

Are you trying to say Hitler asked the Germans if he should gas Jews in camps or not and acted only after he got the majority of votes?
Putin surely asked the population if he should attack Ukraine and the majority said yes, which is why soldiers were told they'd go to Belarus for training, took a nap in transport trucks and woke up in Ukraine.

That's a nice theory you got there.

No, you completely missing the point. Democracy doesn't prevent discrimination, bigotry, racism... In fact, opinion of the masses should have no baring on questions of ethnic discrimination against minority



de-Russification of Ukraine

I also have a question for people here: Why this is bad? I mean in reality de-russification == de-colonization , so why this is bad? Im' living in Ukraine, and never seen that people were forbidden to speak russian. But yeah, new generations should learn their own language, not some imperialistic and colonial "языГ". So this is like: you are allowed to speak russian, but your children will be ukrainian speaker, if you don't want so you could leave to russia.

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Wow, yeah, that's not racist at all. So nice of you to only discriminate against further generations, and allowing current generation to continue to speak Russian (where majority in capital Kyiv use Russian in their everyday life) i thought there was a higher chance of Ukraine keeping it together, but after your comment, (if you in fact represent majority view) i can see how that will be impossible now.

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...Unesco, the Council of Europe and the OSCE, are concerned with the risk that RMLs [Regional and Minority Languages] face and undertake actions to protect their linguistic rights. Non-respect for regional or minority communities' linguistic rights is qualified as racial discrimination, a breach of human rights.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2016)589794
Ofc not. This is called "decolonization". The same things happens in Africa or in New Zeland with maori. Russian is not the natural language to ukrainians, this is colonial language which was forced to learn by force. So it's normal that country want to leave colonial past behind. If someone want, he can learn russian by himself or in private schools.

And yeah, russian this is not "regional language". Regional language is the language of minority nations which doesn't have their own countries. In Ukraine this is crimean tatar or gagauzi (minority nation near Moldova). And yeah, we need to help them to safe their culture.

Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing



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Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area...it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

Sure, let's do that with London as well:



According to your theory, India should be in charge quite a few boroughs of London and Indi made an official language, the rest belong to the Middle East states and many to Ethiopia, so Ethiopian, Urdu, Farsi, Romanian, Polish,... all official.
...

Think you got yourself into a corner there, if not by amount of speakers, how do you think all other countries pick their official languages on national and regional levels?? Should Canada and Finland add Aramaic as their official language instead of French and Swedish?



Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing



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Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area...it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing


How not ashamed to lie so STUPIDLY!? Smiley

In Ukraine, there is no ban on the Russian language, in Ukraine, after 2014 years, a sharp drop in interest in a language that turned out not to be a carrier of culture and history, but a means of terror, a pretext for murder, looting, and violence. The population rejects it en masse. Although the state and even private educational institutions continue to provide such a service. In Kyiv, for example, there are about 20 schools where you can study COMPLETELY in Russian.

Now show me how many schools in Moscow where you can fully study at:
- Ukrainian
- Tatar
- Chechen
- Moldovan
- Tajik
Or is this again a "completely different story", as you usually say when they poke your nose into what you are doing, attributing it to others? Smiley
So there is no need to hysteria and primitive, stupid lies to scatter here. This is not Russia for you - here people think and know the truth Smiley

I'm sorry, but only an imbecile can truly believe that a language can be "a means of terror, a pretext for murder, looting, and violence." Perhaps you hit the nail on the head, and inadvertently pointed out the root cause of the issue. Asking if a language can be all those things, could be sort of a litmus test. I strongly suggest you reevaluate your position on the language (not asking you to reconsider events or people, but the language itself), and going forward question any sources that made you come to such conclusion.

I would say the same thing if Russia, or any other country for that matter, put in "severe restrictions" on any books based solely on the language the books are written in. Honestly, I'm quite shocked that i even have to explain that censoring books based on the language is bad!
288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 01, 2022, 04:45:06 AM

Wrong about what? Which of those languages is an official language in the US?

look even US of A supports Russian speakers  
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Oфициaльный вeб-caйт пpaвитeльcтвa Coeдинeнныx Штaтoв
https://www.irs.gov/ru

Ukraine's president's website has a Russian version too:

https://www.president.gov.ua/ru

But by all means please let me know the new location of the goalposts.



Alright there's no official language in US on federal level but most states have English as official language at the state levels, but English is definitely a national and regional language in US of A, so my point still stands.

Banning books of minorities decided by the majority, of course majority can always decide to stop discriminating if they wish to vote so, tyranny of the majority at it's finest. Guess technically Jews could always stop the concentration camps if they had majority in Nazi Germany... Cause you know discrimination and racism is always decided via majority vote
289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 01, 2022, 02:57:36 AM
Do you know any other country in the world where language spoken by the majority in the capital is not even a regional language?

US of A

Forced Ukrainization? Why not give people the option and let them decide for themselves?

People decided, via elections. They can decide differently in the next election, but...

Totally not a cultural war, nope not at all
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Ukraine’s parliament on Sunday voted through two laws which will place severe restrictions on Russian books and music as Kyiv seeks to break many remaining cultural ties between the two countries following Moscow’s invasion.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-restrict-russian-books-music-latest-cultural-break-moscow-2022-06-19/

... to no one's surprise (except feigned one by kremlinistas here) Russian language is losing its appeal during the invasion so I'm guessing the next election won't be favorable to that effect.

Wrong again https://www.city-data.com/states/District-of-Columbia-Languages.html
but US of A does have Spanish radio stations and lots of government documents are available in Spanish, especially in southern states https://www.whitehouse.gov/es/ look even US of A supports Russian speakers  
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Oфициaльный вeб-caйт пpaвитeльcтвa Coeдинeнныx Штaтoв
https://www.irs.gov/ru

Cool justification to ban books. Nothing says you're on the right side of the history like banning books. How many years in prison should ethnic Russian grandma get for smuggling 10 of these for her grand kids? And who listens to music on the radio, should blocking the Internet for all Russian content be next?



Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing

This law forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language does not exist.  

I'm not saying that such laws exists, just replying to johhnyUA who seems to be truly bewildered why discrimination and racism go against EU values and are bad

You're saying it because it's something you've heard many times before from people that support Russia's invasion.  

It's not true though.  It's a lie that exists to justify Russias actions and thus increase Russia support.

You might wanna re-read johhnyUA post just above, i didn't believe it before but that's what i'm hearing now
290  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 01, 2022, 01:50:09 AM






Everything you write is absolute nonsense that shows that you are here not to understand the issue. You found some obscure article and you really should have shown this:

Chronology of Ukrainian language suppression

17th century
1627 – Decree (ukase) of Tsar Michael on a petition of the Moscow Patriarch Filaret to burn in the Tsardom of Muscovy all copies of the Didactic gospels of Kyrylo Stavrovetsky [uk], one of the didactic gospels of Kyrylo Stavrovetsky.[1][2]
1688 – on the orders of Moscow Patriarch Joakim in huge fires on the streets of Moscow "Crocheted Christ" of Antin Radivilovsky [Wikidata] was burned, together with the works of prominent Ukrainian theologians Peter Mogila, Lazar Baranovych and Innocent (Giesel).[3][2]
1690 – Condemnation and anathema of the Council of the ROC for "new Kievan books" by Petro Mohyla, Cyril Stavrovetsky, Symeon of Polotsk, Lazar Baranovych, Antonius Radivilovsky [Wikidata] and others.[2]
1696 – decision of the Sejm of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth on the introduction of the polish language in the courts and institutions of the Right-Bank Ukraine.[2]
18th century
1720 – Peter I's decree banning printing in the Ukrainian language and the seizure of Ukrainian church books.[4][2]
1729 – Peter II ordered decrees and orders written in Ukraine be rewritten in Russian.[2]
1763 – Catherine II's decree banning the teaching in Ukrainian in Kiev-Mohyla Academy.[2]
1769 – Prohibition of the Synod of Ukrainian print and use the primer.[2]
1775 – The destruction of the Zaporozhian Sich and closing of Ukrainian schools at the offices of the Cossack regiment.[2]
1789 – the Polish Sejm Commission on Education ordered the closure of all Ukrainian schools.[2]
19th century
1804 – according to a special royal decree in the Russian empire, all Ukrainian-language schools were banned, which led to the complete degradation of the Ukrainian population.[5]
1817 – Introduction of the Polish language in all public schools in what is now Western Ukraine.[2]
1832 – Reorganization of education in Ukraine on the empire-wide principles and transforming all teaching into Russian language[2]
1847 – The crackdown on the Brotherhood of Cyril and Methodius and increased persecution of the Ukrainian language and culture, the prohibition of the best works of Shevchenko, Kulish, Kostomarov and others.[2]
1859 – Ministry of Religion and Science of Austria-Hungary attempt to replace Ukrainian Cyrillic alphabet with Latin in Eastern Galicia and Bukovyna .[2]
1862 – Closing Ukrainian Sunday schools for adults in the Russian part of Ukraine.[2]
1863 – Valuev Circular prohibiting censors from giving permission to the publication of Ukrainian spiritual and popular educational literature: "there was, is not and could not have been a separate Little Russian language".[2]
1864 – Adoption of the Charter of the primary school at which education was to be conducted only in Russian.[2]
1869 – Introduction of the Polish language as the official language of education and of the administration of Polish Eastern Galicia.[2]
1870 – Comment of Minister of Education of Russia Dmitry Tolstoy that "the ultimate goal of education for all inorodtsy (non-Russians, literally "people of other descent"), is unarguably their Russification."[2]
1876 - Alexander II's Ems decree banning the printing and import from abroad of any Ukrainian literature, and to ban Ukrainian stage performances and Ukrainian lyrics in music scores, that is folk songs.[6]
1881 – Prohibition of teaching in the public schools and conducting church sermons in Ukrainian.[2]
1884 – the ban by Alexander III of Ukrainian theater in all the provinces of Little Russia.[2]
1888 – a decree by Alexander III banned the use of the Ukrainian language in official institutions and of Ukrainian given names.[2]
1892 – Prohibition to translate books from Russian into Ukrainian.[2]
1895 – Prohibition by the Main Administration of Printing to publish Ukrainian-language children's books.[2]
20th century
1911 – Resolution VIIth congress of the nobility in Moscow's only Russian-language education and the inadmissibility of the use of other languages in schools in Russia.[2]
1913 – Ukrainian banned from all public schools in Alberta, Canada, home to the largest Ukrainian diaspora community in the New World at that time.[2]
1914 – Prohibition of celebrating the 100th anniversary of Taras Shevchenko, the decree of Nicholas II prohibition of the Ukrainian press.[2]
1914, 1916 – Russification campaign in western Ukraine, the prohibition of the Ukrainian word, education, church.[2]
1922 – Part of the proclamation of the Central Committee of the RCP (b), and the Communist Party (b) the "theory" of the struggle between the two cultures in Ukraine – city (Russian) and peasant (Ukrainian), which should win the first one.[2]
1924 – Law of the Republic of Poland on limiting the use of the Ukrainian language in the administration, judiciary, education subservient to the Polish lands.[2]
1924 – Kingdom of Romania law on the obligations of all the "Romanians" who "lost their mother language," to educate children only in Romanian schools.[2]
1925 – Ukrainian final closure of the "secret" of the university in Lviv[2]
1926 – Stalin's letter to "Comrade. Kaganovich and other members of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CP (B) U with the sanction of the struggle against the "national bias", the beginning harassment of "Ukrainization".[2]
1933 – Stalin's telegram to stop "Ukrainization".[clarification needed][2][7][8]
1933 – Abolition in Romania Ministerial Decree of 31 December 1929, which permits a few hours a week of the Ukrainian language in schools with a majority of students with the Ukrainians.[2]
1934 – A special order of the Ministry of Education of Romania's dismissal "for the hostile attitude of the State and the Romanian people" of all Ukrainian teachers who demanded the return to school of Ukrainian.[2]
1958 – Enshrined in Art. 20 Principles of Legislation of the USSR and the Union Republics on Public Education of the situation on the free choice of language learning, the study of all languages except Russian, at the request of students' parents.[2]
1960–1980 – Mass closure of Ukrainian schools in Poland and Romania.[clarification needed][2]
1970 – Order of the Ministry of Education of the USSR on academic thesis defense only in Russian language.[2]
1972 – Prohibition of party bodies to celebrate the anniversary of the museum Kotlyarevskyi in Poltava.[2]
1973 – Prohibition to celebrate the anniversary of Ivan Kotlyarevsky's "Aeneid."[2]
1984 – Order of the Ministry of Culture of the USSR on the transfer proceedings in all the museums of the Soviet Union, the Russian language.[2]
1984 – Back to the USSR payments increased by 15% of the salary for teachers of the Russian language in comparison with teachers of Ukrainian language.[9][clarification needed]
1989 – the decree of the Central Committee of the CPSU on "legislative consolidation of the Russian language as a nationwide".[2]
1990 – adoption by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR Law on the languages of the peoples of the USSR, where the Russian language was granted official status.[2]
21st century
2012 – The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine draft law "On State Language Policy", which steadily narrowed the scope of use of the Ukrainian language in most of the regions of Ukraine.[10][11]
2014 – The Ukrainian language has been suppressed in Russia-occupied Crimea,[12][13][14][15] so-called Luhansk People's Republic,[16][17] and so-called Donetsk People's Republic[18][19][20][21]

Nothing has changed these days:

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With a blessing from the Russian Orthodox Church, occupation “authorities” in Mariupol have burnt a large library belonging to the Petro Mohyla Church, Mariupol mayoral advisor Petro Andriushchenko said in a Telegram post on June 25.

What do you think the ban on the Ukrainian language use in Ukraine, which has been consistently carried out by russia for centuries, has given any result? No doubt. Im surprised that people remember Ukrainian at all. Everything that is happening now with the language in Ukraine is absolutely correct, although it's a very long way that Ukraine will definitely go through.



Cool history lesson back from 1627 starting with the Tsars, now, and you feel all of this somehow justifies current discrimination?  


Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing

This law forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language does not exist.  

I'm not saying that such laws exists, just replying to johhnyUA who seems to be truly bewildered why discrimination and racism go against EU values and are bad

You might not be aware, but people can speak more than one language. The requirement to learn the official language of the country you live in (for example to be able to use government services) does not prevent you from using whatever other language(s) you speak, and isn't racism or discrimination. Every country including Russia works like that.

You might not be aware, but there are countries out there with more than one official language and some even have 16 besides official there are national languages, regional languages minority and widely spoken categories. Do you know any other country in the world where language spoken by the majority in the capital is not even a regional language? Forced Ukrainization? Why not give people the option and let them decide for themselves?

Totally not a cultural war, nope not at all
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Ukraine’s parliament on Sunday voted through two laws which will place severe restrictions on Russian books and music as Kyiv seeks to break many remaining cultural ties between the two countries following Moscow’s invasion.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-restrict-russian-books-music-latest-cultural-break-moscow-2022-06-19/
291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 31, 2022, 08:54:35 PM
Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing

This law forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language does not exist.   

I'm not saying that such laws exists, just replying to johhnyUA who seems to be truly bewildered why discrimination and racism go against EU values and are bad
292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 31, 2022, 08:36:20 PM
de-Russification of Ukraine

I also have a question for people here: Why this is bad? I mean in reality de-russification == de-colonization , so why this is bad? Im' living in Ukraine, and never seen that people were forbidden to speak russian. But yeah, new generations should learn their own language, not some imperialistic and colonial "языГ". So this is like: you are allowed to speak russian, but your children will be ukrainian speaker, if you don't want so you could leave to russia.

...


Wow, yeah, that's not racist at all. So nice of you to only discriminate against further generations, and allowing current generation to continue to speak Russian (where majority in capital Kyiv use Russian in their everyday life) i thought there was a higher chance of Ukraine keeping it together, but after your comment, (if you in fact represent majority view) i can see how that will be impossible now.

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...Unesco, the Council of Europe and the OSCE, are concerned with the risk that RMLs [Regional and Minority Languages] face and undertake actions to protect their linguistic rights. Non-respect for regional or minority communities' linguistic rights is qualified as racial discrimination, a breach of human rights.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2016)589794
Ofc not. This is called "decolonization". The same things happens in Africa or in New Zeland with maori. Russian is not the natural language to ukrainians, this is colonial language which was forced to learn by force. So it's normal that country want to leave colonial past behind. If someone want, he can learn russian by himself or in private schools.

And yeah, russian this is not "regional language". Regional language is the language of minority nations which doesn't have their own countries. In Ukraine this is crimean tatar or gagauzi (minority nation near Moldova). And yeah, we need to help them to safe their culture.

Ahh forbidding law abiding ethnic Russian UA citizens from teaching their children their native language under disguise of "decolonization" while claiming that it's not a "natural language to ukrainians" or they have to leave the country is not an indirect method aimed at forced migration at all.  Roll Eyes. True EU values. Tell us you support ethnic cleansing without saying you support ethnic cleansing



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Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, and religious groups from a given area...it also includes indirect methods aimed at forced migration by coercing the victim group to flee and preventing its return
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 31, 2022, 07:56:11 PM
de-Russification of Ukraine

I also have a question for people here: Why this is bad? I mean in reality de-russification == de-colonization , so why this is bad? Im' living in Ukraine, and never seen that people were forbidden to speak russian. But yeah, new generations should learn their own language, not some imperialistic and colonial "языГ". So this is like: you are allowed to speak russian, but your children will be ukrainian speaker, if you don't want so you could leave to russia.

...


Wow, yeah, that's not racist at all. So nice of you to only discriminate against further generations, and allowing current generation to continue to speak Russian (where majority in capital Kyiv use Russian in their everyday life) i thought there was a higher chance of Ukraine keeping it together, but after your comment, (if you in fact represent majority view) i can see how that will be impossible now.

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...Unesco, the Council of Europe and the OSCE, are concerned with the risk that RMLs [Regional and Minority Languages] face and undertake actions to protect their linguistic rights. Non-respect for regional or minority communities' linguistic rights is qualified as racial discrimination, a breach of human rights.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2016)589794
294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 30, 2022, 07:07:48 PM
This one was actually quite successful as a propaganda move. I see Western media (AP etc) peddle this now, some reports like "Russia claims Ukrainians attacked prison" and some without the "Russia claims" part. Kremlin will do everything they can to create the impression that HIMARS is used "improperly", they're really afraid of it and perhaps hoping that US will slow delivery because of this propaganda.


Anyone who 100% believes either side has an agenda...its war, and lies and propaganda are used on both sides.
Once its over, winner will decide who was liar and who was telling the truth


Pretty much this. Nevertheless we can make educational guesses.

What we know, in support of RU side:
-Russian side went to great length to capture those PoW
-Azov "evacuation" had the most global attention and was overseen by Red Cross
-They have great PR value. Parading PoWs on cameras is a great moral booster
-PoWs have direct values when doing PoW exchanges. And we know that some were already used in a PoW exchange  
-Azov PoWs are especially prized, they're so valuable internally that Russia wanted to pass resolution banning their exchange
-Dead PoWs have no value to RU. It would be counter productive for RU. It can be used as moral booster and incentivize UA fighters to fight to the end instead of surrendering
-8 RU prison guards were also wounded in the shelling

In support of UA side:
-It's their most (?) prized military unit
-Azov PoWs had priority over other regular military PoWs

Summary of RU side claims as i see it:
-Azov PoWs started to talk with investigators and UA attacked to shut them up.

Summary of UA side claims as i see it:
-RU kills PoWs to pressures UA to stop using HIMARS
-RU kills PoWs so UA stops fighting  Huh
-Because that's just what orcs do

Considering the value of Azov being alive to UA and RU sides, both claims sound ridiculous to the point of being laughable. So most likely this was an accidental attack. As these things go, like with MH17, one side will try to do everything to investigate and drum up as much attention as possible, and the other side has no option but to just blatantly deny everything and try to make it go away ASAP.

It's even more ridiculous to say it was accidental attack.
The captured Azovites are still highly valued for exchange, because at large in Ukraine they are apparently still considered the elite and there are many more of their fighters and supporters at large who are pressing the Zelensky government to exchange them in the very first place.
For the Zelensky government, for which victories on the information front are much more important than real ones, it would be better if the Azov people did not surrender, but died the death of the brave as martyrs. Therefore, on the one hand, Kyiv exchanges part of the soldiers, and on the other hand, instead of Russia, it may well seek to complete its plan to glorify the prisoners from Azovstal by completely destroying it. Moreover, as mentioned above, such attacks may be designed not only to intimidate witnesses, but to reduce the desire of Ukrainian soldiers to surrender into Russian captivity.

...

Not a week goes by where some high ranking UA official SBU, ministers etc...doesn't get arrested, charged with treason, or accused of collaboration with RU. They have so many holes there that even planning something like this seems unreasonable.



Let me be clear, even considering that you, as a biased user, wont accept this.
You can talk about logic and motives when it comes to any other country except Russia. They are capable of any crazy stuff because they can and they get away with it. If in 2008 the civilized World gave a tough rebuff in response to the invasion of Georgia, you didn't even know what Crimea is.

Now here, the pro-Kremlin telegram channel with a huge number of subscribers reflects in early June what MI6 would do with British-supplied MLRS in Ukraine. It's sick already but quite fine for russians. So one of their targets as per this channel should be Olenivka. Since you're an expert in russia I hope you know that the translation from "they may" to russian is "we will". Why? No one knows, because they can.



NOw lemme ask how you end up spreading your bullshit here for literally 8 people? Your no good at least for Reddit or Alexa stats with impressive digits of this forum is enough to master russian budgets?

Right, your position is represented under "Because that's just what orcs do"

Which civilized World? This one or this one or perhaps this one etc etc etc ... Roll Eyes



On 4 April, 2022 from UA embassy in Egypt
Quote from: Embassy of Ukraine in Egypt
Russia is blocking an Egypt-bound ship loaded with Ukrainian wheat that was purchased by Egypt.  Track the “EMMAKRIS III” ship in real-time here:
https://marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:689679/zoom:14  🇪🇬 🌾 🇺🇦

#StopRussia
https://web.archive.org/web/20220714023412/https://twitter.com/UKRinEGY/status/1511047591533985817


Now on 29, July 2022
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Ukrainian authorities have detained a ship at one of the ports where grain shipments are expected to resume through the Black Sea this week – asserting the vessel is owned by a Russian company. The ship is a bulk carrier, the Emmakris III
...
Emmakris III had been loaded with some 60,000 tonnes of grain already bought by the Egyptian government.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-detains-russian-owned-ship-loaded-with-grain-at-black-sea-port/ar-AA106tVo

If I'm having a hard time tracking all of this, can't imagine a typical person trying to make sense of all of this.
Is there at least a consensus that time is on RU side? Or rather, RU stands to loose less dragging this into winter?
295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 29, 2022, 10:04:49 PM
This one was actually quite successful as a propaganda move. I see Western media (AP etc) peddle this now, some reports like "Russia claims Ukrainians attacked prison" and some without the "Russia claims" part. Kremlin will do everything they can to create the impression that HIMARS is used "improperly", they're really afraid of it and perhaps hoping that US will slow delivery because of this propaganda.


Anyone who 100% believes either side has an agenda...its war, and lies and propaganda are used on both sides.
Once its over, winner will decide who was liar and who was telling the truth


Pretty much this. Nevertheless we can make educational guesses.

What we know, in support of RU side:
-Russian side went to great length to capture those PoW
-Azov "evacuation" had the most global attention and was overseen by Red Cross
-They have great PR value. Parading PoWs on cameras is a great moral booster
-PoWs have direct values when doing PoW exchanges. And we know that some were already used in a PoW exchange  
-Azov PoWs are especially prized, they're so valuable internally that Russia wanted to pass resolution banning their exchange
-Dead PoWs have no value to RU. It would be counter productive for RU. It can be used as moral booster and incentivize UA fighters to fight to the end instead of surrendering
-8 RU prison guards were also wounded in the shelling

In support of UA side:
-It's their most (?) prized military unit
-Azov PoWs had priority over other regular military PoWs

Summary of RU side claims as i see it:
-Azov PoWs started to talk with investigators and UA attacked to shut them up.

Summary of UA side claims as i see it:
-RU kills PoWs to pressures UA to stop using HIMARS
-RU kills PoWs so UA stops fighting  Huh
-Because that's just what orcs do

Considering the value of Azov being alive to UA and RU sides, both claims sound ridiculous to the point of being laughable. So most likely this was an accidental attack. As these things go, like with MH17, one side will try to do everything to investigate and drum up as much attention as possible, and the other side has no option but to just blatantly deny everything and try to make it go away ASAP.
296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2022, 07:48:38 PM

Interesting choice to publish this. Admitting US provided weapons are being used inside Russia, on top of that on a civilian looking target? No better footage inside UA on guys in camo? Or effort to get RU to stop grinding and react hastily before winter sets in?
297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2022, 12:29:18 AM
Looks like we are all saved here in the UK, finally. This is the absolute top of the list item I think any government should be tackling right now.
Fuck the economy, fuck energy supply, fuck teenagers stabbing each other, fuck lack of police, fuck robberies & crime increases, fuck the homeless, fuck the murder on women stats especially.

Nope THIS should take priority.

I’ll make wolf-whistling and cat calling illegal, says Liz Truss
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ll-wolf-whistling-cat-calling-140128125.html


 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Well, jail constructions to house new offenders should stimulate economy.
298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2022, 08:00:37 PM
Corn... you weird.



Suppose it is the fed rate...


This kind of weird is very much appreciated

Not at all, fundamentally BTC should be going up when printer goes Brrrr and go down when they try to restrict the money emission. Speculators that treat BTC as a "risk-on" asset are the ones pushing it up now, and we all know what they'll do once market turns downward again
299  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 25, 2022, 12:23:50 AM

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"We call on Russia to live up to its international obligations to treat all individuals captured fighting with Ukraine's armed forces as prisoners of war," they [State Department spokesperson] said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/politics/americans-killed-ukraine-donbas/index.html
So they gave up trying to justify exceptions by claims of dual citizenship or whatever and now straight up saying that there are no more mercs at all? Does that mean that everyone will now have to treat all Iran's mercs in other conflicts as prisoners of war? Or it's another double standard that somehow only applies to Ukraine?


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A top State Department official said that pressure from the global community and Russia's need for money from its own agricultural exports may have led Moscow to sign an agreement to allow Ukrainian grain to transit through the Black Sea. “This came together because, I think, Russia ultimately felt the hot breath of global opprobrium,” said Victoria Nuland, undersecretary of state for political affairs.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-22-22/h_d3eaea1b11c234af3193407e2f0f884f
Why why are they allowing Nuland to speak? Hasn't she done enough? The message was always clear Russia applying pressure to Ukraine #5 wheat exporter (8.5%) was the reason for global food shortages U.S. Treasury: Agricultural, Medical Products Not Part of Russia Sanctions Now Nuland goes off yapping her mouth admitting that apparently there was pressure from "global community" to a #1 agricultural exporter? So global shortages in food are because of pressure to a #5 exporter but not to #1 exporter?  Huh someone take her microphone away!

Nobody is stopping Russia from exporting grain...or any agriculture commodities...so...yeah....someone give her microphone back.

Umm you might want to reread this, who said anything about stopping? Strawman much? Nobody is stopping Ukraine from exporting grain either. State Department said that global community applying pressure to Russia's agricultural exports. You know blockading ports, preventing insuring vessels and their refueling...
300  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: July 24, 2022, 05:20:08 AM
"Two Americans, a Canadian and a Swedish citizen were killed this week"
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/23/americans-killed-russian-tank-attack-00047567


I thought the diplomacy hit a rock bottom and can't sink any lower, but it keeps surprising me

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"We call on Russia to live up to its international obligations to treat all individuals captured fighting with Ukraine's armed forces as prisoners of war," they [State Department spokesperson] said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/politics/americans-killed-ukraine-donbas/index.html
So they gave up trying to justify exceptions by claims of dual citizenship or whatever and now straight up saying that there are no more mercs at all? Does that mean that everyone will now have to treat all Iran's mercs in other conflicts as prisoners of war? Or it's another double standard that somehow only applies to Ukraine?


Quote
A top State Department official said that pressure from the global community and Russia's need for money from its own agricultural exports may have led Moscow to sign an agreement to allow Ukrainian grain to transit through the Black Sea. “This came together because, I think, Russia ultimately felt the hot breath of global opprobrium,” said Victoria Nuland, undersecretary of state for political affairs.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-22-22/h_d3eaea1b11c234af3193407e2f0f884f
Why why are they allowing Nuland to speak? Hasn't she done enough? The message was always clear Russia applying pressure to Ukraine #5 wheat exporter (8.5%) was the reason for global food shortages U.S. Treasury: Agricultural, Medical Products Not Part of Russia Sanctions Now Nuland goes off yapping her mouth admitting that apparently there was pressure from "global community" to a #1 agricultural exporter? So global shortages in food are because of pressure to a #5 exporter but not to #1 exporter?  Huh someone take her microphone away!
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