wow de ja vu of how pirate began. as soon as i read the first post talking about gaining trust, i thought. hmmm whats he going to sell me next.. a dozen posts later there it was..... insurance. show a list of who he trusts.. then suddenly gets a big idea of how to make money out of the idea.. but this time not a bank. but insurance........ just a shame you done all of it in one single thread. nice forum avatar of not a real face. along with the only other picture of you being in a skii mask only showing your eyes on your other links including your youtube. you wont be in my circle of trust even if you do tweet about bitcoin in march 2011 to show you known about it longer then some others. i trawled the internet and found other websites not listed on your links and found you have been removing pictures and replacing them all with your skii mask pic. eg http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/members/14443048/ there were 4 pictures.. but now just 2 one is a birthday cake and the other 3 are the skii mask. even your youtube is limited to the skii mask pic. may i suggest if your even considering becoming a business requesting money in exchange for trust then do a inaba, gavin andersen thing and show your full face atleast. answer me this Ron Gross what is your real isreali name? |
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i do love this, when actual south africans inform us of blackberry carrying population, yet oxfam still show the dirty water carrying poor people lol
next oxfam advert should be donate 1BTC a month to help the african population tweet and facebook message their friends.
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amazing  the start of getting bitcoin recognised legitimately so here's a round of applause from the big man himself  |
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bitcoin is not a commodity.
a commodity is something people have use of eg food, oil, and minerals to make products out of. bitcoin is just data. no other use in real life situations but to use as a bartering tool.
so not a commodity but an asset, antiquity or currency.
bitcoin is not like gold. bitcoin is more like a famous persons autograph, or artwork. limited supply has no other function but to be stored or traded.
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Grandma Nartsy.
Grammar Nazi.
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using API from exchanges. then add on any fee's incurred plus your profit to equal the viewable BTC cost. heres a load of MTGox API for you to try https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MtGox/API/HTTP/v1EG grab the high price from this ticker https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/tickeri grabbed this code from somewhere that uses BTC-E.com not mtgox $json_url = 'https://btc-e.com/api/2/btc_usd/ticker';
$ch = curl_init( $json_url );
$options = array(
CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER => true,
);
curl_setopt_array( $ch, $options );
$string = curl_exec($ch); // Getting jSON result string
$object = json_decode($string, true);
$price=$object['ticker'][high]; you know it will cost 6% in fee's to fully cash out to your bank account and you want to make 4% profit for yourself so if $price shows BTC is $10.80 SUBTRACT 10% for costs / profit, making it worthy/profitable to process BTC for $9.81 then divide that by the cash value they input to give you a BTC amount. so a $100 bill will cost 10.19367991BTC so when you sell the 10.19BTC at the actual $10.80 exchange price you will get $110 to then cash out, cover fees and still have about 4% profit |
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DigiCash
PayCheck
Webtrader
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I believe that in a few years, Bitcoin will be the most environmentally friendly option to move money. Here is my reasoning. Please tell me if anything is flawed.
In a perfectly competitive environment, the price of the last marketed product equals its cost of production. I consider Bitcoin mining a competitive industry, so the previous statement does apply to the Bitcoin network.
The cost of production is not only energy consumption, but also the research and development to obtain more efficient mining hardware. I would expect the cost of production of bitcoins to gradually move from energy consumption to jobs and investment in the hardware industry. We may soon be seeing this with the arrival of next generation ASICs.
Finally, once most bitcoins are mined (in around 20 years), and all mining profit comes from transaction fees from highly competitive miners (keeping fees as low as possible, no creation of new bitcoins), moving (bitcoin) money will be cheaper and presumably as environmentally efficient as you can get, more than any other money transacting business. Is my reasoning correct?
short answer yes. but even today bitcoin is ecologically better then fiat. |
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try replacing the word FIAT with
paper money
native currency
national currency
standard currency
think about wording it to be aimed at grade-highschool people that dont have university degree's in economics or computing
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environmental impact??
compared to the resources needed to print FIAT then the fuel costs to transport it from the mint to the banks. further transports to the ATMS. thats alot of natural resources
then as people spend it. more resources to to transport FIAT from shops to the banks.
let alone all the costs of resourses for all the bank staff, the leaflets and paper contracts and every other detail related to dealing with fiat. even down to the environmental costs of producing credit/debit cards needs to be included in the fiat environmental impact, to fully compare to bitcoin.
FIAT=1g of resources compared to bitcoin 30-70g? pfft as if
bitcoins environmental impact is sooooooooo much less. that video only talks about the electricity bill of fiat. not the fuel costs for transport or the ink costs paper costs.
flawed presentation but atleast its the first stepping stone to anyone who actually is interested in showing that bitcoin is more environmentally friendly.
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"if you mine it, wealth will come"
ref: virtual currency 'field of dreams'
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now the noobtubing C.O.D players can make money out of their PC's (still without leaving the basement or getting girlfriends)
bitcoin is not like gold. as gold has many uses beyond from trading value. bitcoins are more like art. to own, keep and sell for profit.
Historic art for the rich, is like bitcoin for everyone.
with 2 bitcoins in your wallet, your never poor.
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much appreciated for the reply bitinstant. the post was more aimed at stuff like dwolla which has been noted to freeze funds in other threads with the OFAC excuse. But atleast your customers can remain confident with the bitinstant service.
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sorry i dont have legal waffle and testimonials, guidelines or laws to quote, but this thread does concern legal issues with withdrawing funds and a easy way to ensure you are not frozen out due to other people. although i use my personal details as i have nothing to hide. It has been highlighted that OFAC checks are hurting innocent people by freezing their funds because they use PO Boxes etc linked to criminals who also use the same PO Boxes or mailing services. so i suggest even if your trades are all legal and you just don't want to for instance, be stalked by strangers on the internet trying to steal your laptop to get to your coins, thus using anonymous address. Do a OFAC check to make sure that the mailing service that you decide to use is not linked to criminal activity. and to check that your name is not similar to any known criminals. http://sdnsearch.ofac.treas.gov/you don't want your funds frozen because of other peoples actions which you are not physically involved in. so do the check first. |
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saltyspitoon gets my vote
he seems to have a level head and advocates many alts, has some things in the pipeline concerning litecoin and deals alot on BTC-E and the litecoin global. so his comments may be lacking but his mind is in the right place.
which is what a mod should be.
knowing what is best without having to start arguments or make comments.
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i kind of feel sorry for the girls.
they get on cam for some strangers to gorp at them for atleast an hour demanding every depraved act they would never ask a real woman to do face to face. all for less then minimum wage.
thank you mister buzz kill, plus no one forces these girls to get on the cam, they choose it. Plus one girl is trying to pay her college and if you think about it we are paying them in a currency that goes up in value so they could do it once and just sit on it. Also we don't demand anything, we ask, we tip, they do it. Plus I know I could easily call some girl over, have sex and she leaves. This I am actually helping the bitcoin economy grow into people that normality won't be exposed to it, or not have anyway to earn it. They also does make any less than a regular cam girl if they did it in fiat currency. it wasn't a mega poke at the website, more of the fact that only half a bitcoin got donated. and a bit of reverse psychology making people hopefully pay more and demand less sadistic pleasures lol (i say this because i heard stories about girls being told to defecate and eat it, in exchange for tips.not on the bitcoin version but other versions) the standard hairbrush handle up the glory hole is not as bad.  but atleast make reasonable donations. its better then a porn DVD because its interactive 'asking' for requests. and she does have college to pay for. |
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informing them of bitcoin, maybe fine. telling them to google stuff maybe fine. but linking them to websites and informing them your going to offer a service requesting their game tokens for a currency they only learnt about through you.
well risky.
maybe should have spread the posts out abit. get them use to bitcoin before informing them ur going to offer a service. or all they will read is a cryptic way of u asking for their game tokens.
just dont throw too much at them in one guy. you have to build up trust and understanding slowly and not believe that you will get it automatically purely because you believe in it yourself using one post.
acceptable:
have you heard about bunny credits. google them or check out this link weusebunny.com..
not acceptable:
have u heard about bunny credits. i have been using them for years. and soon i will be trading game tokens for bunny credits. contact me if interested. here are some links to help you understand its all above board. weusebunny.com bunnytalk.org
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 yet another idea to just stir the pot of currency in circles without expanding its reach. when is the next business plan that is going to come along which actually gets non bitcoiners involved. i havent seen one for a while. just more mixer ideas where the inventor skims 2% off the top. peter pays in, paul cashes out and jack takes his cut.
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yep if the exact same wording is wrote on many different websites, then its just like those Nigerian bank emails you receive lol here is the full paragraph So I recently purchased this amazing little program which gives you a slow but steady trickle of bitcoins. Just download the file and open it. It doesn’t get simpler. (Make sure you have the latest .net framework installed for this to work)
though it could be advertising a miner. the way it is worded seems to be an attempt to not explain too much detail, where as anyone who actually uses bitcoin would understand the detail to not need it simplified in a concealed way and treated like an automated faucet program, miner or whatever it is trying to advertise. either way the destination website (coinbit) has removed its videos and the link is removed so it seems the scam is already averted. |
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