Inspired by Phinnaeus Gage Chicago thread and adamstgBit Montreal thread, I want to form a list of San Diego bitcoin users who would like to go to restaurants accepting bitcoins as much as possible. Once we have this list, I will start emailing and calling restaurant managers. I am also thinking if I have your email and or signature it will be more convincing...sort of like a petition. If a restaurant manager sees this list then it will be a no brainer to use bitcoin if the list is long enough. Add your name to this thread if you live in San Diego and also your restaurant choice. My choice is Stacked in Fashion Valley Mall since you can already order food via an iPad.
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heres an idea for a non waffled sales pitch. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126812.0also if u read the other posts in the thread, bitinstant are offering some people to betatest their card. |
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I like it, but lets take it further:
Bitinstant debit card flash mobs
+1 It is sticky legal ground to use someone elses card and pin to buy stuff from your own bar. It also looks really sketchy to the IRS when you buy drinks from your own bar with your own debit card all the time.
I think there are actual payment providers that handle bitcoin for merhcents.
I do like the idea of using the card to run a tab after explaining that people are sending money to the card via bitcoins. Then mentioning later how easy they are to accept.
I don't think we have the critical mass of bitcoin users needed for it to be much more than a gimmick to draw in new customers at this point.
i understand your statements, ill edit out the whisper pin number into bar managers ear and skip to the pay for them to get their own card. plus IRS dont care about who pays for the drinks.. Aslong as the tax bill tally's up at the end of the year. many pubs that i know of, the bar manager/landlord would put his own money into the cash till to keep the books straight knowing that on pay day he will get it back in the form of his weekly/monthly profits. |
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I printed out some flyers to hand out to the brick and mortar shops I frequent that explain what Bitcoin is about and how they can sign up with a payment processor to accept them.
how have you explained the system? as talking about blockchains and mining to a guy that just wants people to pay for drinks groceries or a restaurant meal makes them zone out half way through. just like i zone out 2 seconds after a door-to door sales man comes to my door. can you link me your flyers so that we can all gain insights of mass market adoption best practices. and improve everyones 'sales pitch' |
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most the shops where i live have cashier tills and specially modified POS terminals so browsers are not standard features. plus the hassle of merging the web system in with their own stock control system or even just flipping tabs on the taskbar and re entering data is too much for some.
the bitinstant debit card is the easy solution for the non techy business.
but as i said this is for bars/pubs/clubs. your idea would be great for walmart/bestbuy etc which have wider customer base to be worthy of implementing and having a support team to merge the systems together to work seamlessly
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Check out my system bitcoins-r-us.com its in alpha you can use the pos system that will read cards if you hook it up to a card scanner. I can already issue virtual cards from the system. To use the Pos you need to be a member though. www.bitcoins-r-us.com/poswebnice system but for small occassional purchases in small towns i dont think a merchant will want to implement a second terminal (pc) just for the rare transactions. but still a great idea for larger businesses with regular bitcoin users requiring it. |
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yep i know its not released yet, but atleast preparing speeches and methods to sell the idea ready for when the card is released will make it so much more easier to then get it to mass market
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requirement: bitinstant debit card (when it arrives)
Arrange a meetup of all of your local bitcoin friends to go to a bar. Get their orders and ensure the bar manager sees them all use their phone to scan the QR code on the debit card. And then hand the debit card to the bar manager.
explaining:
this is a special debit card that people top up via their phones using the smart barcode on the front(QRCODE for the smart ones of us). just takes 10 minutes and saves going to the ATM, plus theres no large fee's
let him take the transaction so the first round of drinks are paid for.
Tell him to keep hold of the card as that is your bar tab for the night. People continue QR code scanning to pay for their drinks throughout the night and the manager keeps swiping the card to debit out the fiat. and u just type in your pin number.
he is getting paid, so he is happy.
At the end of the night tell the manager that the debit card is specially for a community that may return with or without you.
Tell him you will pay the card fee for him to register a card at bitinstant.com to be delivered to him where he can register it in his company(the bar) name and have his own pin number. For bar use only. so anyone from the community can just drop in and pay. AND you will also make that bar your regular meet-up destination which would drum up further business for them.
no techno waffle required.
anyone else with easy ways to get places to accept bitcoin?
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bitinstant at many financial conventions E.G las vegas sat between mastercard and paypal stalls
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referencing the post just above this one. i wont quote it as its not worth repeating. imagine the guy comes to this forum and types his web address in the search box, to see how many people are talking about his site. So that he can gauge popularity and whether its worth setting up bitcoin on his website.
the ONLY result he gets is a guy with 420 in his name a cannabis leaf as his avatar, calling him an a-hole.
maybe 420 shouldn't add public relations to his Resume
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Terms of Service
DONT SCAM
- the end -
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im not shunning anyone i just see too much of pirates story line.
nothing wrong with doing a business but hopefully he atleast read some isreali laws on the matter.
and its not my loss at all. i have done well getting bitcoins and litecoins without his insurance, never been scammed yet. So there is no loss to me by not using his service.
i agree with the first part of the post about their needing to be a proper credit rating/reputation system for some people to go by. as the bitcoin -otc is flawed with people gaining rep by buying rep points at 1btc a time, making it not true rep. even btc-jam can get a 8/10 with false information.
a new, better and less flawed rating system is needed... that i agree on. even if i don't trade with individuals.
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wow de ja vu of how pirate began. as soon as i read the first post talking about gaining trust, i thought. hmmm whats he going to sell me next.. a dozen posts later there it was..... insurance. show a list of who he trusts.. then suddenly gets a big idea of how to make money out of the idea.. but this time not a bank. but insurance........ just a shame you done all of it in one single thread. nice forum avatar of not a real face. along with the only other picture of you being in a skii mask only showing your eyes on your other links including your youtube. you wont be in my circle of trust even if you do tweet about bitcoin in march 2011 to show you known about it longer then some others. i trawled the internet and found other websites not listed on your links and found you have been removing pictures and replacing them all with your skii mask pic. eg http://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-il/members/14443048/ there were 4 pictures.. but now just 2 one is a birthday cake and the other 3 are the skii mask. even your youtube is limited to the skii mask pic. may i suggest if your even considering becoming a business requesting money in exchange for trust then do a inaba, gavin andersen thing and show your full face atleast. answer me this Ron Gross what is your real isreali name? |
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i do love this, when actual south africans inform us of blackberry carrying population, yet oxfam still show the dirty water carrying poor people lol
next oxfam advert should be donate 1BTC a month to help the african population tweet and facebook message their friends.
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amazing  the start of getting bitcoin recognised legitimately so here's a round of applause from the big man himself  |
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bitcoin is not a commodity.
a commodity is something people have use of eg food, oil, and minerals to make products out of. bitcoin is just data. no other use in real life situations but to use as a bartering tool.
so not a commodity but an asset, antiquity or currency.
bitcoin is not like gold. bitcoin is more like a famous persons autograph, or artwork. limited supply has no other function but to be stored or traded.
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Grandma Nartsy.
Grammar Nazi.
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using API from exchanges. then add on any fee's incurred plus your profit to equal the viewable BTC cost. heres a load of MTGox API for you to try https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MtGox/API/HTTP/v1EG grab the high price from this ticker https://mtgox.com/api/1/BTCUSD/tickeri grabbed this code from somewhere that uses BTC-E.com not mtgox $json_url = 'https://btc-e.com/api/2/btc_usd/ticker';
$ch = curl_init( $json_url );
$options = array(
CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER => true,
);
curl_setopt_array( $ch, $options );
$string = curl_exec($ch); // Getting jSON result string
$object = json_decode($string, true);
$price=$object['ticker'][high]; you know it will cost 6% in fee's to fully cash out to your bank account and you want to make 4% profit for yourself so if $price shows BTC is $10.80 SUBTRACT 10% for costs / profit, making it worthy/profitable to process BTC for $9.81 then divide that by the cash value they input to give you a BTC amount. so a $100 bill will cost 10.19367991BTC so when you sell the 10.19BTC at the actual $10.80 exchange price you will get $110 to then cash out, cover fees and still have about 4% profit |
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I believe that in a few years, Bitcoin will be the most environmentally friendly option to move money. Here is my reasoning. Please tell me if anything is flawed.
In a perfectly competitive environment, the price of the last marketed product equals its cost of production. I consider Bitcoin mining a competitive industry, so the previous statement does apply to the Bitcoin network.
The cost of production is not only energy consumption, but also the research and development to obtain more efficient mining hardware. I would expect the cost of production of bitcoins to gradually move from energy consumption to jobs and investment in the hardware industry. We may soon be seeing this with the arrival of next generation ASICs.
Finally, once most bitcoins are mined (in around 20 years), and all mining profit comes from transaction fees from highly competitive miners (keeping fees as low as possible, no creation of new bitcoins), moving (bitcoin) money will be cheaper and presumably as environmentally efficient as you can get, more than any other money transacting business. Is my reasoning correct?
short answer yes. but even today bitcoin is ecologically better then fiat. |
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try replacing the word FIAT with
paper money
native currency
national currency
standard currency
think about wording it to be aimed at grade-highschool people that dont have university degree's in economics or computing
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