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3221  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 100 Euro Paysafecard and i need bitcoins.. on: November 09, 2012, 09:10:53 AM
hi just bought a 100 Euro paysafecard at the filling station,
is any one able to offer me some btc for that?


There are at least two exchanges that will accept that, VirWoX and MercaBit.eu. 

Mercabit.eu shows as having a day free of fees today due to it being Bitcoin Friday:
 - http://www.Mercabit.eu
3222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: November 09, 2012, 08:50:07 AM
Use today, tomorrow's medium of exchange.

Close, ... how about:

Tomorrow's money, today.

Incidentally, another thread on this topic:
 - http://www.rugatu.com/questions/4259
3223  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB $750USD worth of Bitcoins via Wells Fargo Instant Transfer on: November 09, 2012, 08:36:58 AM
I usually use Bitfloor for easy BTC purchases, but they no longer have a cash deposit option, so that brings me here.

Do you have a Chase bank near?  You might find a few coins using a cash deposit through Chase for BitMe:
 - http://www.BitMe.com

Also BitcoinsDirect accepts cash deposits at Wells Fargo, but there isn't enough sellers so they don't have many coins to sell:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87094.0
3224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: wallet duplicate, used old wallet.dat file instead of new one on: November 09, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Old wallet has 'learned' the new transactions and listed them as happeneing all today. with the final one I actually made today not showing any confirmations

If the blockchain for the client running the old wallet has completed updating to the latest block and there still are no confirmations showing that could mean the client determined that the transaction is a double spend.  (It could also mean that it just hasn't been confirmed yet, no miners have included it in a block yet).

Does the spend transaction appear on Blockchain.info for instance?  If not, then it is likely a double spend and you'll need to perform a little wallet surgery to get the balance on the old wallet to reappear correctly (by using pywallet to delete the offending transaction, then -rescan.)

3225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Upgrade on: November 09, 2012, 07:30:18 AM
Latest Bitcoin-Qt version: 0.7.1 ...I have v0.6.2-beta  ...Is it recommended to upgrade it every few months?If so,whats the process?

Each of the Bitcoin.org clients are backward compatible.  You simply can run setup on top of an existing installation.  With linux, you can simply overwrite the existing executable with the latest.

The wallet.dat is not touched during the installation process.  It is still advisable that you make a backup of the wallet.dat from right before updating though.
3226  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: BTCPak - Exchange your Bitcoins for MP [$100, $250, $500 and $1000 MPs] on: November 09, 2012, 06:03:46 AM
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Load $25 & Get $25 when you sign up for @Serve now thru 12/31. No credit checks, monthly or annual fees!
- http://twitter.com/AmericanExpress/status/258576655528914945

Here's their offer:
 - https://www.serve.com/load25

So if you were going to buy a prepaid card which takes MoneyPak for loading, Serve will work -- and you get a extra $25 after your first load.

This is a great plan.  Thank you for the suggestion.

I did end up doing this.  The free $25 got added by the time I checked my balance a couple hours later.  So it does work.

You can  then spend the funds from the Serve card at an ATM and wherever AmEx is accepted. Or you can withdraw the funds to your own bank account.  You can also send the funds to another Serve customer (person-to-person, like you can with PayPal).  
3227  Economy / Marketplace / Re: QuickBitcoins, new bitcoin vendor on: November 08, 2012, 09:18:56 PM
Just an update for this thread:

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We're currently unavailable right now due to technical issues.
- http://www.quickbitcoins.net
3228  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello! New Bitcoin Exchange in town on: November 08, 2012, 09:18:36 PM
Just an update for this thread:

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We're currently unavailable right now due to technical issues.
- http://www.quickbitcoins.net
3229  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitMe now accepting new payment methods (Direct Deposit, wires, cash deposits) on: November 08, 2012, 08:15:34 PM
I am now seeing some relatively decent order depth and the spreads narrowing on BitMe! (i.e., can buy or sell several hundred dollars worth of coins without being hurt due to slippage).
 - http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitmeUSD_depth.html

That's just about all that I'ld need to do more trading here.  Except not having two-factor authentication kind of puts a damper on things.

Two-factor authentication is planned for the near future and will be implemented before we start accepting verified accounts with higher limits. Currently users are required to (re)enter their account password for withdrawals (except for previously linked bank accounts). This will most likely be replaced with a pin number/OTP at some point.

Any update on this?
3230  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin should remain safe from the paws of people doing business as "the state" on: November 08, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
agents of the state or it's subsidiaries from using bitcoin for their own ends

What ways do you see this type of use occurring?
3231  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin should remain safe from the paws of people doing business as "the state" on: November 08, 2012, 07:18:03 PM
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OTC is not the sending of cash in the mail or wire transfer.
- http://shadowlife.cc/2012/11/necessary-conditions-for-the-long-term-success-of-bitcoin

While that is a lofty goal, until the density of local traders increases these methods help as an intermediate step.  For instance, last month when the majority of cash deposit methods available in the U.S. (BitInstant, Bitcoins Direct, BitFloor, BitMe) went down at the same time (temporarily, fortunately) there were some people really in dire straights.  These are people who are now using bitcoins as a substitute for cash.   They've come to rely on the ability to visit a bank or 7-11  and convert cash into bitcoins.

Unless there already was an easy method that allowed them to use cash to acquire bitcoins, they would never have gotten to the point where they rely on there being a supply of bitcoins.  If the only way to convert cash to bitcoins was to locate and transact with a local trader, most of these people would never have gotten started.  But now that there is a demand for bitcoins this volume is now becoming sufficient to make it worth the effort for individuals to become local traders and begin offering to do OTC exchange.

The network had to build up before the network effect began to yield much value.

But we're seeing that now.

Look at the growth of offers to trade through Local Bitcoins for instance.
 - http://www.LocalBitcoins.com
3232  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: MtGox Autosale on: November 08, 2012, 10:17:56 AM
I read if the amount is sent from an external wallet, you need to wait for 6 confirmations before the coins can be sold, does this mean there is there a variance to how much I will get?

Yes, the exchange rate moves and you may get less or more than you would have gotten had the trade executed immediately. 

This situation exists for many companies who do commerce in multiple nations, though Bitcoin's exchange rate volatility exacerbates the problem.

If your selling prices have sufficient markup, the exchange rate risk should normally not be that significant and probably evens out over time between the times the rate goes up versus the times it goes down.

If there is a larger transaction or the need to lock in at the exact rate  from when the sale occurred, API calls to handle hedge trading using a custom approach rather than autosale is one solution. 
3233  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: FinCEN and BitInstant on: November 08, 2012, 10:08:59 AM
I am considering using BitInstant for transfers but would like to minimize legal risk.

Are you trying to conceal the source of money obtained by illicit means?   

If not, then what legal risk might you believe you are exposing yourself to?
3234  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Beware laser printers for paper wallets on: November 08, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
Can I get anyone to fix the wiki page?

That's definitely a concern if it does save the print output to a hard drive.

HP says they don't:

Standard print and copy jobs print directly without storing information on the HDD.

Advanced output options can use the HDD for temporary files.

 - http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02164443&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=3673580&prodTypeId=18972


I've added a mention to the Wki article.
3235  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Controversy Research paper on: November 08, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
a US law the says it is illegal for currencies to be used the "competes with the USD"

Good luck finding a source for that law.  It doesn't exist.

If such a law did exist, you or I couldn't accept Euros, or Pesos, or Yen, Ithica Hours, or bus tokens even.

If you are referring to the Bernard von Nothaus conviction, he was not convicted of "competing with the USD".  He was convicted of issuing metal coins that were considered to be counterfeits of U.S. coinage.

The U.S. prosecutor made a statement following the case that "It is a violation of federal law for individuals… to create private coin or currency systems to compete with the official coinage and currency of the United States.".  That was not in the charges that the jury decided.  The prosecutor's statement is not the law.

Bill Rounds of How To Vanish wrote this post:
 - http://www.lewrockwell.com/rounds/rounds35.1.html

and Anthony Wile wrote this post:
 - http://lewrockwell.com/wile/wile64.1.html

3236  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-09-17 crimecommission.gov.au - 2011-12 Annual Report (Investigations and Op on: November 08, 2012, 05:01:03 AM

For those preferring a web-viewer:


Chapter 3:
 - http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crimecommission.gov.au%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2Fannual_reports%2F1112%2FACC_AR_2011-2012_chapter3.pdf

Full report:
 - http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crimecommission.gov.au%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2Fannual_reports%2F1112%2FACC_AR_2011-2012.pdf
3237  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASICs After Halving Block Reward on: November 08, 2012, 04:56:20 AM
Is it just chance that no one will be delivering ASICs prior to the block reward dropping to 25 BTC?

If you are implying that they aren't delivering because they are mining while the sun shines (while the blocks are still 50 BTC), we'ld be seeing a lot more than 24.5 Thash/s if that were the case.
3238  Economy / Speculation / Re: my intuition says: we're sitting on a rocket about to be ignited on: November 08, 2012, 03:48:52 AM
  • Ongoing and increasing distrust of fiat money and banking system amongst the general population

You didn't include the election or the upcoming tax changes in the U.S. as one of the reasons.

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For those who want to sell investment property at 15%, now might be a good time. There may never be another chance.
- http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2012/10/17/no-matter-who-wins-the-election-higher-taxes-are-certain/


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When Congress last raised capital gains tax rates in 1986, lifting the top rate to 28% from 20%, the change triggered a wave of asset sales, including securities and companies, in the months before it took effect.
- http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204789304578088931525397120.html

So there could be additional amounts of cash newly available for investing and some of that might end up at Bitcoin exchanges.  Today's selloff in the stock markets includes some who are dumping so that their capital gains occur in 2012.
3239  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: $120 Moneypack for 10 BTC on: November 07, 2012, 11:12:31 PM
I don't even own a green dot so it worthless to me

If you were already going to a 7-Eleven, why wouldn't you just have used BitInstant (Moneygram) instead and saved yourself this hassle?  MoneyPak is a horrible payment method for buying bitcoins.
3240  Economy / Services / Re: Android App Development - Testing the waters on: November 07, 2012, 11:06:34 PM
I wanted to see if there was any demand here for work that would be paid using bitcoin.

There's an opportunity for someone to build a standalone app to redeem private keys.

All the app (or mobile-enabled web app) needs to do is simply let you scan a QR code with a private key, and then scan the QR code of the destination Bitcoin address (or allow entry of the bitcoin address / paste from clipboard).

From there the app needs only to send an API call to Blockchain.info:

I have been meaning to add this ability to the blockchain.info API for a while. You can now replace the guid in the send api (https://blockchain.info/api/api_send) with a Hex encoded private key.

https://blockchain.info/merchant/4d6c9dff493fcd2da9508e01c8b13461d37e3d8b6df1732942d3257874051362/payment?to=$address&amount=$amount

$address = destination bitcoin address.
$amount = amount to send in satoshi.

(Well, technically two calls, one to get the unspent balance and the second call for the spend transaction.)

This could be a pretty easy app (or mobile-enabled website) to build.   To see how a mobile-enabled website can do a field for scanning via a QR code, see EasyWallet.org' site:
 - http://www.EasyWallet.org

I'ld love to see someone build this capability for mobiles.
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