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"Don’t listen to what people say, watch what they do."
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?
Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain. In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven. Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  |
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Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.
Not surprised in the slightest and was fairly certain throughout the debate that would be the case. It was always a strong likelihood that we would have to accept freedom of movement, you just never heard anyone from the leave campaign admit it, heh. Also, I'm quite pleased with this as economic migrants don't, in fact, "suck the coffers dry". They contribute more than they take out and the UK economy is going to need all the help it can get. If, as a bonus, it also disenfranchises those whose fixation is migration and they refrain from voting in future as a result, then I'm fine with that too.  UK is a very tolerant country in regards to immigration, and we should be rightly proud of that. A good number are very hard working with good work ethics. But annual net migration of 336,000 in this tiny country is simply unsustainable. Roads gridlocked, schools oversubscribed, massive housing shortage, hospitals at breaking point.... etc, people are right to be concerned. At some point something is going to give. I don't what it will be, but it won't be pretty. |
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
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Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.
Exiting the EU will not stop immigration, because we still need access to the single market. My fear is many people voted exit under the illusion it will. |
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LOL. Not a story you would care to read to young children though. |
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Telegram... Where does the contact book goes? Russian servers?
Doesn't go anywhere on mine, since I sandbox Telegram inside App Ops. |
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Telegram's good. With the added bonus it's on F-Droid.
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Can't see Boris becoming PM. If he did he would have to press the button on article 50 triggering brexit. Who the hell would want that job?
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Now watch as several posters mysteriously materialise to accuse me of being a racist for pointing this out.
Yeah, because it's a cheap shot. The problem is that when the R word gets used frivolously, the word gets diluted. It should only be used in instances when genuine racism exists. |
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Maybe God is sending earthquakes as punishment for all the fools worshipping these false gods, particularly obvious ones such as Jesus for example.  |
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Yeah, this needs to be stamped out quick. Some people are gonna be pretty pissed when the penny drops that leaving the EU isn't going to stop immigration. |
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P.S. The markets are going to realise this very soon and start rallying. Why not take advantage of it? I am.
I think you are mistaken. Capital hates uncertainty. I have a large FTSE 100 short from Friday, average 6170, looking for 300 profit first thing tomorrow, probably more. Better hope that over the weekend the markets haven't realised that article 50 will never be triggered. |
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This could kill the conservative party. There will probably be mayhem in the streets if they don't get on with it.
More than just mayhem, it will be pitchforks at the least, do they want to risk it? Article 50 needs to be done ASAP. Now when do I arm myself No-one is going to be triggering article 50. Who in their right mind is going to knowingly plunge the country (and likely others) into certain recession? No-one. The referendum is rendered void, Cameron saw to that. P.S. The markets are going to realise this very soon and start rallying. Why not take advantage of it? I am. |
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An interesting post I found on the internet:- If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.
Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.
With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.
How?
Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.
And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.
The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.
The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?
Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?
Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.
If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.
The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.
When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.
All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign. |
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And as a good article said:
You've gambled with my generation future, I've got the right to be angry.
Voting remain was gambling with your future. Voting leaving was gambling with your future. Not bother voting at all was gambling with your future. |
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