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341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 06:44:24 PM
An anecdote that it worked out for you that time doesn't mean it will continue to.
It's far from optimal when you can cut your losses and find a way better entry. That trade that netted you 20% overall could have netted you a significantly higher % by re entering when the market reversed.

Obviously everyone should trade how they feel fit but what about the people who opened longs at $900. Should they have held until the market reversed and get margin called. Of course if your trading spot its a different story.

Indeed, it was during the selloff to $160 and the losses would have been substantial had I cut them. Instead, seeing that we were at a likely capitulation/selling climax after whales sold us off in reaction to the Bitstamp hack news (perfect finale to the bear market, bravo guys) I wasn't about to sell into it. Instead I bought heavily into the selloff and secondary test when I saw it was on low volume, averaging out my trade downward to bank a great profit when it went to $300 on the reaction.

Obviously the sell climax created a unique situation. Crazy trade that turned out to be though Smiley
342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 06:29:12 PM
thanks... for me the more I try to think like a whale the more I imagine they have more to gain by continuing the downtrend.

They will continue in the direction of least resistance according to supply and demand. That is why after capitulation they began pumping instead of dumping. Fighting natural market forces is a good way to go broke, any market professional knows this. They won't do it. There is also a good chance that they can see both sides of the market and have insider connections--so they know when to mark the price up or down ahead of how much fiat is entering the exchanges and what kind of news is coming out.

They've tested the hell out of this price range and it resulted in an accumulation gradient of rising bottoms (likely by multiple competing interests). This is bullish. They see this. We will test downward as many times as needed to break $300. If it means that they hold most of the coins on Finex to do this, so be it. They will be distributed later.
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 05:56:38 PM


It's possible though margin cascades are hard to predict. There might not be enough selling to even get us sub $280 at this point, though we might go there again due to low volume in general. When the market leaders are bullish and want to go up, watch them shake out the market downward as many times as it takes to clean out enough supply to do it while supporting certain price levels. They have both the bankroll and patience and it is a profitable thing to do.

Those longs who are well capitalized would need sub $200 to get margin called, and that price is close to bear delusion at this point. I expect they would hold through, just as some of the well funded shorts are doing who allowed themselves to be trapped during capitulation. I expect they, on the other hand, are getting mighty nervous as their danger zone is in the $300s. Some of the bearish activity you see is likely groups of them protecting their positions--I saw this activity all the way up from the bottom--seems to work well enough until a whale with a pump bot comes along and decides to annihilate them.

Holding a long at this sort of interest rate through a ~25% decline is stupid and a terrible way to trade though. Its not so much a margin call cascade as a stop loss cascade that could be seen. If people are trading without stop losses then god help them!

I've done it. Had a losing trade that ended up over 20% in the green because I held through. Not optimal, but it worked out. I'm a position trader so I'm holding onto trades for weeks and the cost of the loan is a very small percentage of my overall profits.

I don't trade with stop losses. Whales actively gun for them, so why give them the bait?
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 05:47:17 PM
so what do you think guys, will we see $300 this week?

There's still a chance this could break down and fill in below $280, which opens the door to breaking the rising bottom trendline at $260. However this is not what I think will happen (but many chartists are calling for it).

If you're not already in now, the lower risk trade would be to go long after $300 is broken and becomes support, confirming the break.

how much room do you think there is for a cascading effect of long margin calls if it breaks down to 260ish? This is basically what I'm betting on. Majority of bids in between 255-271, after that, re assess. Otherwise join the bulls above 305 and CCMF for a moment.

It's possible though margin cascades are hard to predict. There might not be enough selling to even get us sub $280 at this point, though we might go there again due to low volume in general. When the market leaders are bullish and want to go up, watch them shake out the market downward as many times as it takes to clean out enough supply to do it while supporting certain price levels. They have both the bankroll and patience for this and it is a profitable thing to do as it fills their longs and builds retail shorts.

Those longs who are well capitalized would need sub $200 to get margin called, and that price is close to bear delusion at this point. I expect they would hold through, just as some of the well funded shorts are doing who allowed themselves to be trapped during capitulation. I expect they, on the other hand, are getting mighty nervous as their danger zone is in the $300s. Some of the bearish activity you see is likely groups of them protecting their positions--I saw this activity all the way up from the bottom--seems to work well enough until a whale with a pump bot comes along and decides to annihilate them.
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
so what do you think guys, will we see $300 this week?

There's still a chance this could break down and fill in below $280, which opens the door to breaking the rising bottom trendline at $260. However this is not what I think will happen (but many chartists are calling for it).

If you're not already in now, the lower risk trade would be to go long after $300 is broken and becomes support, confirming the break.
346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 04:33:20 PM
NLC probably banned for paedophilia references..

Long interest falling now 0.09%

Next an attack on 300.

To the guy shorting because sentiment is bullish - how would that have worked out in 2014? Smiley

Picked up .05% yesterday.

Still pushing up with rising bottoms, kind of like a wonky ascending triangle. The rising lows are what's important, indicating accumulation.
347  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 06:50:29 AM
There are a lot of skeptics that this alone will be the spark to lead to the next rally (I'm talking about their exchange).

No it almost for sure will not. But good news during a potential bull market could be an important catalyst to tip the scales, and SXSW is a pretty huge deal. Hell, my wife has met Sally Field and the CEO of McDonalds already--it's like a celebrity and who's who parade. I'll make sure she attends the Winklevoss presentation tomorrow.

I'm not saying it will ignite a super-rally, but it might get us over $300.
348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 05:08:53 AM

-snip-

Hmm

No selling.
349  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is the all-in moment (Sunday March 15, 2015) on: March 16, 2015, 04:40:04 AM
i'm margin all in since yesterday (at least to an amount i can keep liquidation threat well into the double digits)

i have no intent to sell btc at or below it's current value so why not buy on margin

Margin... Your liquidation price is in the double digits right now.  But how long until that's not true?  Interest will increase your liquidation price everyday.


If you're in the green, simply change the swap cost to term instead of daily.
350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 03:03:12 AM
Winklevoss twins speaking about Bitcoin at SXSW tomorrow in Texas, surprised no one has mentioned this. I didn't even know about it until my wife told me that she's going to watch.

I guess their speaking engagements are so prevalent that it's taken for granted these days. I wonder when Gemini will be live and rolling. It should be soon.

SXSW is a pretty huge festival in the US, so it will get the attention of a young demographic. All of the biggest PR and ad agencies are there promoting clients' products... that's exactly why the wife is there.
351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2015, 02:58:01 AM
Winklevoss twins speaking about Bitcoin at SXSW tomorrow in Texas, surprised no one has mentioned this. I didn't even know about it until my wife told me that she's going to watch.
352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chinese Exchanges: on: March 14, 2015, 08:01:15 PM
80% of Bitcoin is exchanged into and out of Chinese yuan

http://qz.com/359679/80-of-bitcoin-is-exchanged-into-and-out-of-chinese-yuan/

I disagree with this. Most of the Chinese trade volume is wash which pumps up existing transactions which are quite small in comparison. Look at Huobi for example: The orderbooks don't come close to matching the volume. The majority of transactions are simply small amounts being traded back and forth by the same accounts.
353  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What's the deal, miners? on: March 14, 2015, 07:30:38 PM
I imagine some miners are hedging in the futures markets. That's what futures were originally created for--to protect against future price fluctuations of commodities.
354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
starting to think this was a trap.

It's always a trap, adam. If you are a huge whale, how can you mark the price up the cheapest way possible?

-clean out the selling, test bear strength by dumping the market a bit
-get newbs/gamblers to open new shorts
-get longs to cover and take profit (better now than during a markup which you would have to absorb)
-get your own longs filled at lower prices

Works the opposite in a bear market. Now when they push back up there will be less selling and the new shorts will either cover or get called, adding further fuel.

It's all part of the game if you trade with enough coin to alter trends. Think like a predator and not the prey.

Now if you see big volume pushing through, say, $275, then that's an indication that the big boys are selling. If there is relatively lower volume (especially during a retest of a price area) then they are not and it is probably a test.
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 06:18:58 PM
Bear puts up 300+ ask wall, starts to get nibbled but holds

Bull market buys it with a 320 coin order

Bear immediately anger dumps 500+ coins, showing his hand and emotional state

This is not the activity of a good trader. Plenty of gamblers left to extract money from.
356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Etherium.org launch to make Bitcoin price go UP? on: March 13, 2015, 05:43:17 PM
You might try spelling it correctly regardless of what you think of the project.
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 04:25:14 PM
of course you give greater probability to b, because you think we bottomed. many bulls think that. 

Indeed. I think there's a strong case for it. I do position trading using the daily chart so I'm not overly concerned with smaller down moves within the larger uptrend, which to this point haven't been very convincing.

At any rate this sideways consolidation has gotten to be pretty boring, but as they say, the longer the consolidation the stronger the break. Still looking at $330-$350 as my next sell target.

Just to prove that I'm not a complete moron, here are links to my trades.

I'm still long from the second chart, in fact I added to my position a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/P15wNHG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SVgsstM.png
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
no, it's not a win win because a lot of ammo was spent for 4 attempts to break 300.

lot of usd swaps opened in the process, no cheap dolla' on bitfinex...

hidden bearish divergence showing up.

usd going ballistic.

but keep repeating that everything is ok, because I am ok with it.  Cool

Not enough ammo to go down, that's what defines a bull market. So we dance along the edge of the top resistance until we build enough power to jump over it.


we are not in a bull market. where did you get that idea?

Daily chart? Seems pretty bullish to me. I guess it depends on your definition.

Lately you seem to get excited about these low-volume shakeouts. You do realize they are meant to lock traders into poor positions.


no, not really.

what really got me excited was yesterday's bull attempt to break 300 on high volume that failed for the 4th time. delusional bulls are the one who will push us back down.

bears really dont have to do anything.

I see. Well we may get a little more downside, but I wouldn't personally be short here. If we can't go down and we can't go up, we go sideways/drift upwards until a) significant supply shows up or b) bulls push through. And with a capitulation/rising bottom gradient in the background putting demand in control (this is why we tend to drift upwards), I give greater probability to scenario b.
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 03:29:53 PM
no, it's not a win win because a lot of ammo was spent for 4 attempts to break 300.

lot of usd swaps opened in the process, no cheap dolla' on bitfinex...

hidden bearish divergence showing up.

usd going ballistic.

but keep repeating that everything is ok, because I am ok with it.  Cool

Not enough ammo to go down, that's what defines a bull market. So we dance along the edge of the top resistance until we build enough power to jump over it.


we are not in a bull market. where did you get that idea?

Daily chart? Seems pretty bullish to me. I guess it depends on your definition.

Lately you seem to get excited about these low-volume shakeouts. You do realize they are meant to lock traders into poor positions.
360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2015, 03:22:48 PM
no, it's not a win win because a lot of ammo was spent for 4 attempts to break 300.

lot of usd swaps opened in the process, no cheap dolla' on bitfinex...

hidden bearish divergence showing up.

usd going ballistic.

but keep repeating that everything is ok, because I am ok with it.  Cool

Not enough ammo to go down, that's what defines a bull market. So we dance along the edge of the top resistance until we build enough power to jump over it.
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