2013 called, he wants his "bitcoin will never be a serious currency" argument back. Markets need buyers and sellers. Price discovery, liquidity, market makers, all that. We're still in a volatile pre-IPO-like phase, one that is traditionally not available to regular investors. I'm thinking longer term.

Good news for day traders.

More FUD please. A conspiracy theory or two would be nice. An ad hominem attack on Mark's weight would further reinforce your position. The more angry you sound the more convincing your argument will ultimately be. Maybe combine the two tactics and litter some four letter words in there too. Don't forget the frappuccinos.

This forum has no place for logic and reason. We have markets to short, noobs to scare and bills to pay.

Ok sarcasm off

Looking at this completely objectively with my Spock Hat on, I think you make a lot of good points. And I hope you're right.

I agree with both of you. The media shitstorm will blow over, like it always has before. The new kids and bitcoin non-believers surely are having a field day with this one, and aren't helping its image, that's for sure. But it's inevitable and happens over and over again and bitcoin emerges resilient as the coins are distributed to stronger, smarter hands during the market downturns. Once the market turns bull, the accumulation phase will begin again as many clueless investors buy in, and the cycle repeats itself.

Last summer I witnessed this on a smaller scale with the ASIC chip preorder debacle. Yifu Guo, a trusted community member, basically screwed the pooch and didn't deliver his brand new ASIC chips on schedule, thereby screwing preorder companies that had invested much and taken customers' money for assembly. (These are mining rigs, so time is money. Also they were the first ASICs so time was big money.) For a while, he was one of the most hated people on the forum (as were some of the assemblers). I've never seen more profanity and name calling, even death threats. Money and greed turn people into absolute monsters. In the end, though, most people got their money back (Yifu issued refunds) and that saga is long behind us.

Overall, given the lack of hard, concrete evidence and the record amount of FUD (both here and on reddit) I could go either way on Gox. I know many of you are angry. Just remember that this is a cutting edge technology in its infancy, and you're lucky to be part if the IPO. If you can't handle the stress, maybe Bitcoin isn't for you.

Regarding Gox, I feel for those who lost a lot of money. Try to keep things in perspective, have a little patience, and hope for the best.

I wouldn't order anything from klondikedesign.com if I were you (not sure why the store is still up...). Chris still owes me over 8BTC. Anyone hear from him lately?

One can only hope, but the silence is deafening. I bought 50 goxcoins for next to nothing last night, so we will see. Don't worry; it's money I'm prepared to lose (and I bought real coins too )

Yeah if ya quoted him, delete.

Anything good? I'm on a tablet.

Josh was upgrading the servers earlier... perhaps a wise move

https://www.twitter.com/BTCBLDR

Thank god there is another rational adult in this forum. Hold tight kids, don't make me turn this car around!

You've got to be kidding.

Perhaps referring to pre-bitcoin cryptos that never took off, liberty reserve, e-gold... etc. It was obviously put together hastily. Place your bets accordingly.

Not if you think that there's a tiny chance MtGox and its associated assets could be bought, restructured and rebranded into a functional, profitable exchange by a forward-thinking capitalist. A longshot for sure.

Those trigger fingers must be shakier than a Chihuahua on crack.

Agree. Mark could also tap into the anti-Bitcoin Foundation crowd as potential customers.

Because we've been through this before with Gox, again and again. Whether they pull through this time is yet to be seen.

Surely you must know how expensive and time consuming a lawsuit would be.

If you haven't heard, this community is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Scams, "investment" schemes, failed ASIC group buys,  miner preorder drama, pump and dump coins, and other various flowery-sounding get-rich-quick schemes have come and gone long before you. However unfortunate, it does ensure that Bitcoin is not adopted by those who can't comprehend basic computer security by making a shining example of selected individuals. Stick around, though, and you'll see how fast we grow.

Listening to Beethoven 7, seems fitting.

Support @ 530.

You can always grab a few goxcoins if you're feeling extra frisky.

Agreed. All talking heads are in it to make a buck. It's a television persona that caters to a segment of the population (ratings/views) and almost all of them would sacrifice principles to remain in the spotlight. Glenn Beck is the worst of them, IMO.

Seleme you should start a paid service. I'd subscribe just because I don't have time to monitor the altcoins all day, plus I hate some of the sleaziness that surrounds the community.