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401  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: December 22, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
People that have lost money because of their accounts locked or un verified and can not move, and the drop in BTC, can you sue Bitttrex because of it?
Essentially they are holding people's money , AKA stealing with no recourse. Time to call the Washington State DA people!

It would be great but can you actually do anything against them? Will they give a fuck? Because I honestly doubt it, unfortunately. Also people here don't seem to care much either.

If the people losing money are from the US they can easily cause enough trouble for Bittrex to lose their licensing . They can also be sued in a heartbeat in the US.

Yeah but you think they are not going to fight it? They will just say the have been verifying accounts and will just give retarded excuses for all the disabled accounts.

I'm sure they will, but they can be overwhelmed of enough people start the lawsuit(s). The fact that they are holding people's funds with tickets for verification or other reasons is illegal in the USA. Since Bittrex did not lend the money to the account holder, they have ZERO ability and rights to withhold it from the account holder, if they request it be transferred out of Bittrex to another wallet. It's that simple in the USA. When there is money involved the govt will butt-fugg them promptly if enough people complain/start lawsuits or contact the local and national media about it.



But isn't the ''KYC'' thing supposed to protect them from that? Like they disabled all withdrawals because of that, that's what they say. You think people from outside the US can do something? A part from exposing them on social media.
402  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: December 22, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
ICOs can be amazing but you can also buy them when they get to the market, usually they will have a higher price than the ico but in the next few days they always get dumped, so if you wait a few days after it gets to an exchange you can buy them cheaper.
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: December 22, 2017, 11:15:08 AM
Is there any progress going for the App ?

As much as I love Geo I think the app will be released only pre-summer with the way things are going, unfortunetly seems like we will miss out on this altcoin boom and possibly we will suffer through bitcoin correction ;/

What boom? It's steadily climbing up, what more do you want? An artificial retarded pump? This is the best way to have a good steady price. Since November it has done nothing but climb.

The only way to trade Geo is to btc, so I don't really care about the $ price as it is a result of the Btc-Geo pair...; I know amount of bitcoins I owned pre-october and clearly there is a misbalance. In btc terms since October-November it was a steady lose - https://gyazo.com/d3a2fe3a12dc78991d5d41c3353913cb

And what boom? In terms of satoshi price everything is outperforming Geo at this moment - https://gyazo.com/cdddbeef52e74a8e221563abcc262abb https://gyazo.com/bc37031479e1a1865c8ac2b9d738b9b5 ; past 3-4 days were huge for altcoins; if not today's gains Geo would probably remain one among biggest losers since August. I am not looking for artificial pump, but been adding Geo since September/October and I begin to question if project is moving fast enough to remain competitive in crypto space with other projects.

Geo Milestones over past 3-4 months:
1) Bug fixing and beta testing of the app in October (tho app is not going to be out for at least another half a year...?)
2) Mid October we were informed  "we're currently finalizing coin specs, rate of inflation, planning a swap date" - to which we still do not know the token spec, inflation or details on what happens with tokens outside of bittrex/cryptopia - are the part of the new blockchain and is there way to re-introduce them?
3) Website! - I actually really like this as project had no "face" before and a lot of information was spread all over, now it's easy to read everything in one place, but then again - all assets already existed and it was copy-pasting onto a webpress form.
4) Established communication with bittrex/cryptopia... we get an update once every 2-3 weeks which sounds like "I sent an email to Bittrex" after 2-3 weeks we get back and update "Bittrex wrote back!"; Now it seems that we are repeating the story with Cryptopia, last week there was information "we contacted cryptopia", i can nearly bet that next week there will be post "Cryptopia answered!". Its great things are moving forward, but maintaining communication with a business partner is not an achievement.
5) New video being created - first rumors we heard back in October which makes it over 2 months for one video. I had my share of experience in webdesign and video compiling and if it really takes that long to make one video I am really afraid if we are going to see the app in 2018.

I do believe Geo is undervalued, but under condition that app is around the corner and there wont be further delays with swap that was meant to occur early December and is postponed to late January.. I did my best to protect Geo price especially over past month, but I'm out and I hope someone else will take my spot Smiley

Well you should care about $ price. Bitcoin is way too volatile and eventually you are going to exchange bitcoins for dollars, no? You are right, it's definitely undervalued considering the supply but the volume is still pretty ok, it's definitely a long long term investment. You can see that many times a coin might look almost dead and all of the sudden gets a lot of attention and does a x5 or x10
404  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: December 22, 2017, 12:38:16 AM
People that have lost money because of their accounts locked or un verified and can not move, and the drop in BTC, can you sue Bitttrex because of it?
Essentially they are holding people's money , AKA stealing with no recourse. Time to call the Washington State DA people!

It would be great but can you actually do anything against them? Will they give a fuck? Because I honestly doubt it, unfortunately. Also people here don't seem to care much either.

If the people losing money are from the US they can easily cause enough trouble for Bittrex to lose their licensing . They can also be sued in a heartbeat in the US.

Yeah but you think they are not going to fight it? They will just say the have been verifying accounts and will just give retarded excuses for all the disabled accounts.
405  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 22, 2017, 12:36:04 AM
Wow...

Anyone in here remember mintpal or cryptsy?

I get it maybe peoples accounts have been frozen and such but I have used bittrex for 3.5 years and haven't had a single problem.

They have added countless coins based on customer demand.

When poloniex had massive problems due to the surge in customers during the spring they stepped up as a viable and secure alternative.

In my experience they have always been transparent about things. As long as your not breaking their rules I dont see why anyone would have a problem.

If your new to crypto understand that the exchanges now days are way more professional and transparent to regulators than ever before, be thankful you weren't trading back in 2013/2014 when people's money literally got stolen from them.

On a final note yall shouldnt be keeping alot of coin on exchanges anyway, only keep small amounts to trade with on there. If you keep alot on there you are asking for trouble anyways, always be in control of your private keys.

They haven't been transparent at all, they have changed their ToS without any notice + making old accounts unverified and taking away the option to withdraw. That's not professional. Not getting a response from their support in 4 months is not professional, locking accounts without explanation is not professional. Wake up.
406  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CEX.IO SCAM on: December 21, 2017, 10:21:57 PM
Well, I guess I'm not going to withdraw anything from there now. I was going to but it seems that they fucked up badly lately. I deposited there money long ago and everything was ok. I will just move my coins to bitstamp and withdraw there, it's a shame that all exchanges are turning into crap.
407  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] Bittrex - Next generation exchange (btc/ltc/eac/ppc/rdd/ftc/and more) on: December 21, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
People that have lost money because of their accounts locked or un verified and can not move, and the drop in BTC, can you sue Bitttrex because of it?
Essentially they are holding people's money , AKA stealing with no recourse. Time to call the Washington State DA people!

It would be great but can you actually do anything against them? Will they give a fuck? Because I honestly doubt it, unfortunately. Also people here don't seem to care much either.
408  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 21, 2017, 10:11:21 PM
Even if it's a scam, it does work and pay returns. So far I got no problem with bittrex.

Such stupid noobs are the fuel which keeps scam engine working. Believe it? Thousands of people are complaining and sharing their stories and the moron is telling people that s/he  has no problem with Bittrex. Of course you have no problem there is no way for scammers to make problem for every single user  if they want to have their scam up and running for more few weeks or months. And these bastards in bittrex are sophisticated  enough to rip their users segment by segment and step by step. Get your ass out of their reach if you are not a fake id, noob.

Anyway, I just signed the petition, “FBI: Bittrex Class Action Law Suit.” I think this is important and everybody should support this action.
Here’s the link:
https://www.change.org/p/fbi-bittrex-class-action-law-suit?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_campaign=triggered&share_context=signature_receipt&recruiter=843513408

Yes, there is a huge problem when people that have no issues, at least yet, refuse to believe that their exchange is actually crap. Maybe not a full scam but still borderline scam. There are still plenty of people with millions stuck in there because they got their accounts disabled, and this has been going on for months. Also it seems that some coins are getting massive pumps with most of their volume (99.9%) on bittrex, is this just a coincidence or are they manipulating the market with all the stolen money?
Of course they do dirty games like pump and dump with stolen coins. It is not new, Bittrex has been committing this crime from the first beginning. They are infamous for this.

And you know what? I think the timing was not random, the scam happened coherent with btc price surge, almost at the same hours!

This is the story: They were gambling with users' deposits as they have used to, then btc went high and higher while they were pumping shitcons and this way they trapped in their fraud, people wanted their btcs, while there were no btc. So, they had no choice other than stealing a significant portion of their user base's deposits to compensate their lost.

They have bought some time this way but it didn't help, btc continued sky rocketing and their shitcoins did not performed good enough, now they are in the worst situation ever which has just one single resolution: They should go behind the bars for 5 years or so and they already know it, otherwise they would have released people's deposits, the thing is, they just can't! They are just a bunch of broke gamblers.

Funny thing is that they are supposedly doing this to prevent market manipulation when they themselves seem to be doing it. Just a bunch of scammers because the community allows it.
409  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 21, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
If u say Bittrex is a Scam. people will laugh at you.But Bittrex have some strict rules. If you don't follow the rules you can simply loose your and its simple. To give a high secure service they are doing those privacy and rules setup. So at last I wanna tell you that maintain the rules and make a full Id verified Bittrex account everything will be fine & have a nice day.

They maliciously changed their ToS without informing anyone, that's already a scam. They disabled accounts for no reason with no response, again a scam. They made everyone verify without any notice, again scam. If you want to make it mandatory for your users to verify to withdraw, don't let them deposit either before verifying, of course they don't care when you deposit money to their exchange, it's good for them.
410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: December 21, 2017, 10:08:07 PM
Is there any progress going for the App ?

As much as I love Geo I think the app will be released only pre-summer with the way things are going, unfortunetly seems like we will miss out on this altcoin boom and possibly we will suffer through bitcoin correction ;/

What boom? It's steadily climbing up, what more do you want? An artificial retarded pump? This is the best way to have a good steady price. Since November it has done nothing but climb.
411  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bittrex ignores thousands of clients! on: December 21, 2017, 06:48:59 PM
2fa it works I accont verified thank you thank you Shocked Shocked
how long?

İ waited 26 days a go
Solved in a night with 2fa

when you try 2fa do you have any other ticket open?

I had my ''name missmatch'' ticked opened when I opened the 2fa removal ticket. You don't need to close it and you shouldn't. Just open a new ticket and ask them for 2fa removal + account verification. It took only 2 days for me.
412  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: December 21, 2017, 06:43:19 PM
I agree only with the fact that bitcoin is the strongest cryptocurrency...it can't be the strongest currency until it will recognized by the whole world


Who the fuck uses bitcoin as a currency? It will never be the strongest nor a currency. Bitcoin is used as an asset right now and likely to be this way forever. Too many problems as a currency that will not be solved. Other coins are just better in that aspect. Keep bitcoin as an asset.
In the past, Bitcoin was used as a currency, but to be honest, I agree your idea. There are very little of people want to spend Bitcoin as a payment method or currency. No ne wants to waste Bitcoin nonsense. Why do I need to spend my Bitcoin while I have many payment method better?
Right now there is not much of a point in spending bitcoin since the fees are very high but once the fees get cheaper people are going to begin to use bitcoin but that is going to take time because as we know bitcoin is a great investment so instead of spending it people prefer to hold it.

It's not so clear that bitcoin will be able to ever solve these problems, though. Ripple's CEO Brad Garlinghouse said that bitcoin is not well positioned enough to ever solve the payment problems and that may be true. All these hype is just that, hype, no real value or support.
413  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: December 21, 2017, 06:08:20 PM
I think it's going to be more easy now because MCDonalds is confirmed accepting bitcoin so I'm sure big or small businesses will follow.
It is just a matter of time. I am very much sure that things will be in favor of bitcoin in the next coming days. All those who are sitting in local business market just wants to be sure that bitcoin will not disappoint them. Therefore, they are not taking such kind of step and are waiting for the things to get better. They will start accepting bitcoin after some time when they will realize the worth of bitcoin.

Why would they do that? There is no value in accepting bitcoin as payment. Huge volatility plus huge fees is not good for the buyer nor the seller. Someone buys something worth a few bitcoins from you and the next day bitcoin is down 2k dollars, you are just losing money unless you sell instantly but if you are going to sell instantly what's the point of accepting bitcoins?
414  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 21, 2017, 06:06:36 PM
Even if it's a scam, it does work and pay returns. So far I got no problem with bittrex.

Such stupid noobs are the fuel which keeps scam engine working. Believe it? Thousands of people are complaining and sharing their stories and the moron is telling people that s/he  has no problem with Bittrex. Of course you have no problem there is no way for scammers to make problem for every single user  if they want to have their scam up and running for more few weeks or months. And these bastards in bittrex are sophisticated  enough to rip their users segment by segment and step by step. Get your ass out of their reach if you are not a fake id, noob.

Anyway, I just signed the petition, “FBI: Bittrex Class Action Law Suit.” I think this is important and everybody should support this action.
Here’s the link:
https://www.change.org/p/fbi-bittrex-class-action-law-suit?utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt&utm_campaign=triggered&share_context=signature_receipt&recruiter=843513408

Yes, there is a huge problem when people that have no issues, at least yet, refuse to believe that their exchange is actually crap. Maybe not a full scam but still borderline scam. There are still plenty of people with millions stuck in there because they got their accounts disabled, and this has been going on for months. Also it seems that some coins are getting massive pumps with most of their volume (99.9%) on bittrex, is this just a coincidence or are they manipulating the market with all the stolen money?
415  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 17, 2017, 01:45:58 AM
My account (3+ years old) was allowed to withdraw several bitcoins per day. Then, without any warnings I was disallowed to withdraw anything at all.
I received a warning only saying that I should be aware of that before making any deposits, so of course I didn't make any additional deposit.
However the coins I already had there beforehand were completely locked.

I've asked for the basic verification and it failed. I made every step for the full verification and I've waited more than 2 weeks but I'm still waiting.

A somewhat semi-professional service would have sent warnings before locking the coins, asking users to either verify or withdraw before the timeline. Also, considering how important verifying is under these conditions, any site earning so much should invest on some more people if too small staff is really the issue.

Anyway, now I just hope they're just really, really, really unprofessional and not a scam. In any case I'd recommend anyone to stay away from them.

They are but you should use the ''trick'' that I used. Open a ticket asking for 2fa removal and when the bot replies ask them to verify you as well, they usually do it pretty fast this way.
416  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency as our Fiat on: December 15, 2017, 07:25:06 PM
Certainly but not with bitcoin. When cryptocurrencies are actually made to be currencies, that's when they can destroy fiat. Bitcoin's price is high but no one uses it as a currency, fees too high and is just not going to work for bitcoin, other coins however can definitely be used as real currencies, hopefully in the near future.
417  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: December 15, 2017, 07:23:33 PM
I agree only with the fact that bitcoin is the strongest cryptocurrency...it can't be the strongest currency until it will recognized by the whole world


Who the fuck uses bitcoin as a currency? It will never be the strongest nor a currency. Bitcoin is used as an asset right now and likely to be this way forever. Too many problems as a currency that will not be solved. Other coins are just better in that aspect. Keep bitcoin as an asset.
418  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: December 15, 2017, 07:22:16 PM
Seems literally impossible now. There is no benefit for them and there will never be, other coins however could be implemented, other coins that actually work like a currency, something that bitcoin is not equipped to do right now. Fees way too high, transactions way too slow, volatility. Steam just dropped bitcoin as a payment for these reasons.
419  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex is a scam website - AVOID!- WITH PROOF!! on: December 15, 2017, 07:21:15 PM
Finally got verified, it does seem like they were only unprofessional after all. Personally I will withdraw everything and never comeback and everyone who can should do the same but at least they are not scamming, sort of.
420  Economy / Economics / Re: Is NOW the best time to buy or enter in bitcoin? on: December 15, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
Bitcoin is growing in every country, even in Japan will there are companies that will paying the employees using bitcoin. It will continue to growing up the bitcoin price, so buying bitcoin now and or entering in bitcoin is now is the right time. You can still get a good profit in the future or next year.

Is it? The price is already too high, speaking in % it wont grow much more, compared to other altcoins. That's where the good investments are. I suggest known altcoins like ethereum but new ones also work just fine.
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