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Hi everyone,
Wow, this Group Buy has escalated quickly. Thank you everyone for your input, your concerns, and pre-orders.
I can report that the we've filed for Corporation Status in the state of Nevada. We expect to have the paperwork in place in 15 business days. No funds will be moved (except for refund requests) while this is moving towards completion.
For liability reasons, Mining operations (and co-op GBs) will be shielded in a completely separate company under the same umbrella, most likely to be incorporated in Texas, for this child corporation.
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UPDATE: After further review of the legal challenges in bringing this to the United States, we've decided to launch in the EU first and South America soon after.
The first EU locations will be in countries that have expressly stated that they have no issues with Bitcoin. If you would like a refund, there is no restock fee due to this update in plans.
We are doing are best to stay on the right side of the law, and we're setting up 4 child corporations in order to shield different arms of our operations from one another, legally.
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BTW, 94 shares sold so far. 24 shares pre-reserved by Co-op leaders. 118 shares accounted for.
82 shares available in first pro Group Buy for the ATM arm of our co-op's pro activities.
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Does purchasing in this first round guarantee that we will be receiving fund from the profits of the first ATM that goes live in the USA?
Each ATM will be issued its own spreadsheet, based on first paid profits for that atm will be given to those listed in that sheet, if we sell out as fast as we've done in the past we may simply open it up as a full investment where profits are split between everyone from every machine. Heading out the door for a few hours but, as a correction. The profits from each ATM are separate for now. We may pool them all later, but no fair to punish some ATM backers because some ATMs see less business. |
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Another thing: reservations are not allowed in the Round.
If you need more time: You can send a small BTC payment as a placeholder to your assigned payment wallet address.
We plan on buying a few ATMs so, there's plenty of shares to go around.
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Round 14x Payment Details (Similar to R7-R11, for the most part)======================================================================== R14 Orders should be placed here: http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r14-robocoin-atmBTC Payments will be directed to thomas_s via our site for R14x but I will have co-admin to this wallet for auditing or for payments if we're in a rush. We've worked together on 12 different Group Buys with great success including 2 of the fastest GB sellouts in the forum's history for Industrial class Rigs. For US Customers: for a 3% fee for USD conversion to BTC, we recommend: www.cashintocoins.com a FinCen compliant MSB who can get BTC sent to the wallet address you want in as little as 15 minutes to an hour. For Intl. Customers: We are still exploring suggestions for inexpensive BTC conversion but I can recommend www.bitstamp.net at this time as that's the exchange rate used by our payment processor. PayPal payments (UPDATE): If payment is being made by Paypal place an order on the site and place a note on the order when you place it saying you're paying by paypal...then give whoever you are buying BTC from the order # and the payment address. Please make sure to send it as a gift to "friends and family." This helps keep your share prices as low as possible (no PP fees) and well as protects us against illegal chargebacks after BTC deposits have already been paid out in November. Sorry, this is no longer available. This payment method is "sold out."
If there's any concerns about registering your payment, please follow up with a PM to Thomas or a support ticket. There's two methods to resolve this: A. Send a support ticket on our website www.dzminercoop.comOR B: PM to thomas_s on this site Subject: DZ HF GB R14x, x shares, x BTC Details: Please include Tx ID, your wallet address for payout, and any concerns you may have about your transaction(s) == thomas_s - Primary GBC for Rounds 5-12. Co-GBC during R3-R7. R2 member. Send BTC payments and questions for R14 to thomas_s . Set up Online Auto Reservations for the co-op! DZ - Need escrowed Group Buy shares? For a 2% extra fee you get 3rd party fund holding, dispute resolution, and $500 insurance per transaction at BTCrow. [DISCLAIMER: I, DyslexicZombei, am an approved Escrow Affiliate at BTCrow.] Please PM Carbon Copy thomas_s please prior to escrow payment. =============================================================================================================== NEW! 10/18 UPDATE from Thomas: "Bobsag3 will be accepting wire transfers (for 20+ shares) and chase quick pay (any quantity of shares). and credit cards by Square https://squareup.com/market/miner-hosting-llc/share-r-bitfury-gh-s-min-ups-backup
10/21 Update: Square decided apple bobbing is better than providing service to their customers because Bitcoin = Scary = Eating Square's lunch. They'd rather be run over by the BTC train instead of hopping on to take advantage of a much cheaper remittance infrastructure.
CC payments are currently suspended; we're working on something more long term. Fortunately, Thomas S. works in finance.
Thomas_s will be accepting TD bank and CitiBank (USA) checks (any quantity of shares). At this time no other banks checks are being accepted.
*These payment options are only available for Rounds that don't need BTC conversions. (At the moment the only open Round(s) are 8 and 11)
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Thomas is handling questions and collecting payments for R14x via our site (unless you require Escrow, in which case you can PM me). He set up the automated reservation site and the GB with my input. Great work Thomas, and it's definitely an improvement over me trying to keep up w/ an avalanche of PMs and payments. 
I will still handle or assist in:
- Ordering
- Shipping details
- (Optional) Escrowed GB shares for those that insist on Escrow Protection from a 3rd party for: holding BTC funds, post-sales dispute resolution, $500 insurance per transaction at 2% extra cost to share price. Semi-automated Escrow is done thru BTCrow.
- Remote miner setup
- Remote troubleshooting/
- Incremental overclocking
- Payouts or assist in payouts
- Auditing hashrate vis-a-vis payouts
- Dispute resolution and arbitration, if necessary. [Should be rare as we're all adults that don't need to yell. ]
Refunds: If we can't raise the funds to buy the full 800GH/s, we'll just order smaller modules with less hashrate. Refunds are discouraged because of the chaos caused in Group Buys, but if necessary, you will be refunded before the miner ships, at a 1.5% restock fee. After the miner ships, no refunds are available.
By sending payment, you agree to these Refund terms before purchase.
=============================================================================================================== NEW (10/21) Share Ownership Transfer Fee: There is now a 0.75% Ownership transfer fee if you're buying someone else's DZ MC co-op shares. We put a ton of time, money, and BTC to offer the GB community many of the world's best at-cost and below-cost deals. Refunds and share transfers cause chaos and extra work for us. This 0.75% share transfer fee *MUST* by paid by the new owner before we will transfer share ownership.
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11/4 pm update: This Group Buy is on INDEFINITE HIATUS. The legal morass is too much for this Group Buy approach at this time. Legal counsel and our board of directors have said this is too risky for our startup at this time. We're doing a smaller, internal run as our proof of concept and hope to come back to offer you BTC ATMs with outright ownership if/when legal issues are sorted out. ============ 11/3 PM update: due to the murkiness of US Laws, at this time, we are delaying a US launch until we get further clarification from Washington DC. Instead: we're launching our ATMs in Bitcoin friendly countries in the EU, Canada, Central America, South America, Africa, and Asia! OP and Title has been reflected to update these changes. I personally apologize for getting anyone's hopes up about a US Bitcoin ATM. I'm determined to be part of the US launch but will hold off until we get better legal guidance and clarification from our law making bodies. == Here's the latest update on target markets for our new corporation's pro activities for launching Bitcoin ATMs. This list is subject to change but is most likely 99% set. Round 14A: Düsseldorf, Berlin, Germany (SOLD OUT in 6 hours) Round 14B: Amsterdam, Netherlands (OPEN) Round 14C: Mexico City, Mexico Round 14D: Brasília, Brazil [Home of Summer Olympics 2014 2016, tip o' the hat to quiglag for catching this mistake] Round 14E: Caracas, Venezuela Round 14F: Shanghai, China Round 14G: Tokyo, Japan Round 15H: London, UK Round 14I: Sydney, Australia Round 14J: Stockholm, Sweden Round 14K: Johannesburg, SA -DZ, DZ MC LLC (not real name, name to be made public when paperwork is finalized) CEO ====================================================================================================== To reserve shares automatically and for easiest spreadsheet export,
please visit the new DZ Miners Cooperative website. ===================================================================================================== 200 shares available per Bitcoin ATM Round
Zero shares available : Current Round shares available in R14A....Location is....Düsseldorf, Berlin, Germany! (Subject to change to another EU location, but 99% likely)
~50-60 shares available: Current Round shares available in R14B...Location is....Amsterdam, Netherlands! [Please let us know if you have a problem with your R14B ATM location, and your R14B shares will be withheld for R14C]
1 share = 1 /200th of the *net BTC profit* of the Round's ATM
1 share = $130 If there's enough demand, New rounds for new ATMs will be called R14B, R14C, etc.. This Group Buy is meant to give you BTC payments from net profits of the co-op's Robocoin Bitcoin ATM! https://robocoinkiosk.com/Yes, the same Robocoin ATM that just launched in Vancouver to great success is now available...to you! I know that the term: "a once in a lifetime opportunity" gets tossed around with abandon, and although I'm not your lawyer, financial advisor, or your mum, I think that this offering qualifies for that trite, overused term: "A once in a lifetime opportunity." For example: the first ATM that launched in a city of 600K residents, appears to have made annual project ROI goal of 9
months, in only 2 days! [ Correction: ROI may not have been met quite yet. Per Robocoin CEO (edited for grammar): "We've done $50K in transactions, not in revenue." Also: "We still don't have enough data to present accurate pro forma revenue assumptions" ] http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/31/why-are-people-so-excited-about-a-bitcoin-atm/== My at-cost and below-cost ASIC Miners Cooperative specializes in getting Group Buyers the very best deals and exclusives anywhere. Following in that tradition: I'm proud to announce the forum's first Group Buy.... for the first group purchased US Bitcoin ATMs! We're a group of likeminded IT and Finance experts, and we've put a lot of time and effort into getting to this point. The DZ Miners Cooperative makes a perfect Robocoin Network Operator, as we provide free expert marketing to Robocoin, free expert in-house product support from our veteran IT troubleshootersand Finance Pros, while offering their 5 digit product at only 3 digit USD price points. We bring the high costs of a BTC ATM down from "sky high" to "within reach!" ============================================================================================================================ =========================================== 200 shares will be issued per ATM sold by the DZ MC, valued at $26K for the total value of this ATM Group Buy. Your share will cost $130 each, which will entitle you to 1/200th of the net profits of the Bitcoin ATM, paid out every 2 weeks minus a 3% Hosting/Management Fee (this portion helps pay Robocoin directly). This ATM will be located in a *very* highly trafficked area, in a very large city in North America. Any other ATMs purchased by this Bitcoin ATM Cooperative will also be located in similar areas. We will be selling these ATMs in blocs of 200 shares for each ATM, first paid, first served. The miners normally cost $20K, but we're adding estimated values for the shared costs of: - business insurance - armed guard services - GPS services in the ATM - wifi or network connection(s) - power, shipping - misc. related costs - a small markup for our services and value brought to this: the world's first Group Buy for United states Bitcoin ATMs - and for the requisite "bank" of BTC required for each ATM, in order to service customers.
If it turns out that we need to keep a bigger "bank", for compliance reasons, the share price will need to be post-adjusted to reflect this.The CEO of Robocoin does *NOT* officially support this Group Buy, but he has listened to my entire marketing and project management plan, and is impressed with both our co-op and my entire plan, which takes advantages of the diversity of skills, and the strengths and verticality of our unique Miners Cooperative. ============================================================================================================================ =========================================== Why should you trust me? - I founded and co-run with thomas_s. one of the largest if not the largest Miners Cooperative on the Group Buys forum: Dyslexic Zombei's Miners Cooperative. If we're not the largest co-op, we can claim without hesitation the title of the most active (and diverse) democratic miners coooperative on the GB forum. We're have about 11 co-op creators and contributors so far, and about 85-90 members living on 5 continents (N. and S. America, Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and Australia) and 2 island chains (Hawaii and the UK). This co-op was founded on August 15, 2013, upon the principle of rock bottom costs at the very best values combined with the highest ethics and highest quality customer service. We just finished up our 14th Group Buy for an Industrial Class ASIC Rig in only 10 weeks for a total combined sales amount of about $129K. This has happened without a single incident of a co-op member complaining about the way we handled their BTC/ID/Fiat/Hardware/Owner interests, as we run our co-op in an open and transparent manner where the buyer's interests are looked after even if they're not around. While trying to pass on to as many miners as possible, many of the world's very best values in ASIC mining and pre-orders. A good percentage of our sales are repeat customers and/or veteran forum members, so we seem to be doing something right! You're welcome to contact any of the public mem bers via PM, from any of our 14 fundraising rounds in order to see how well we treated them, so far. - I am a John K. Escrow vetted Group Buy Coordinator. He is currently the #1 name in Bitcoin Escrow. He has seen my real ID, address, and LinkedIn account with associated 50-60 professional contacts in the Aerospace industy, top Research Labs, Civil Engineering companies, Information Security Pros, VCs and top IT companies around the world. I've designed multiple prototype systems and networks for various projects often using the very latest cutting edge tech or trying to push the boundaries of new tech. I've designed and installed at least 4 different Research Lab server rooms and designed this co-op as a mesh network, using my experience and knack for building contacts and getting things done. - The US Govt. has trusted me to defend and advance some of our country's top Research & Development projects in advanced technologies for nearly 10 years as both a Sr. Electronics Technican, and as an IT Network Engineer. My past and present professional client list as a contractor or sub-contractor includes the DoD (sans the Marines), the Dept. of Energy, NASA-JPL, MIT, Stanford, Lawrence Livermore Labs, Sandia National Labs, other world class Research Labs, Hawaii DOT, Kauai DOT, Kauai DOW, the local Electrical Cooperative, AECOM, Unlimited Construction, Kiewit Construction, Hyatt Regency Kauai, and many more. - Along with fellow co-op members, we've brought to the GB forum a number of innovations and best in class values found nowhere else including at-cost and below-cost deals with all kinds of co-op bonuses, found no where else. This is an example of the community that I helped co-build: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323827.msg3469240#msg3469240- I've worked hand in hand with DoD Project Managers in charge of billions of dollars in funding and with manufacturers across the ASIC mining industry from small custom manufacturers to the industry's largest players, and I treat them all the same: as a person that deserves respect but a person that also has to put their pants on in the morning like everyone else. - I tested as a genius as a child, which I don't make a big deal of, and was offered the option of moving forward at least a grade, which I declined. - I'm a voracious reader in a variety of subjects. I am interested, involved with, and curious about out world and the human condition. - I'm ambitious but ethical in my dealings with others and conscious that we are all interconnected. I intend to be the first or among the first groups to bring a legal Bitcoin ATM to the United States (and many other countries). I intend this Miners Cooperative to be *the (or one of the) 900 pound gorillas in the Robocoin Operator Network. If you're bullish on the future of Bitcoin, then my team and I, are an easy way for you to invest in the easier adoption and widespread mainstream adoption of Bitcoin, all while making a profit from both sales and purchases of Bitcoin (as well as normal ATM services). - I appear to have a knack for innovation and ambitious project management in this space, collecting together a merry band of Bitcoin Kool Aid drinkers who TCB (Take Care of Business) with a minimum of fuss and egos involved. The best person for the job does it, as no woman or man is an island. - I founded this democratic co-op on the concept that I, and anyone who helps run the co-op, must treat customers as if they were my own (or their own) family or friends: you don't gouge them, and you treat them with the respect that family and friends deserve. I live this truism to heart (unabashedly stolen and paraphrased from a British WWI vet holding a Reddit AMA earlier this year): "We're all the same people, simply separated by different flags." - Karma. I'm a big believer in in it. Here's some typical posts from me and my endorsements if you're interested on performing more Due Diligence on the Coordinator of this Project: My old job: http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1373159My photo gallery: http://s286.photobucket.com/user/SurfSkateKauai/library/?sort=3&page=1Why you should trust me (besides being John K. Escrow vetted): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276947.msg2956448#msg2956448My online / offline endorsements: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280412.msg2997877#msg2997877Me, as user KauaiDKer, trying to give away a good paying Sr. E-Tech job in paradise at a national lab in Hawaii, during a recession:http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1373159 == The Team: DZ Miners Cooperative Roles in this BTC ATM Group Buy We're in the process of going pro for this! That's right! The DZ MC is growing up! These ATM GBs are for-profit deals (small markups) as opposed to our usual at-cost or below-cost ASIC miner deals on the GB Forum. We share the load (and the profits) so that we all succeed together without any one person having to carry too much of a load. - Dyslexic Zombei - Co-op Founder and Overall Coordinator of the #1 GB Co-op. Co-leader with thomas_s for the day to day running of the co-op and for future planning. John K. Escrow Vetted. Renaissance man: Win/Win Deal Maker. Group Buy Coordinator and Escrow Coordinator. IT Network Engineer / IT Information Security Pro. Amateur US Historian with ~85% of a Bachelors History Degree. First National E-sports Internet Football Champ in 1997. I specialize in designing prototype networks, IT systems, and a world spanning Miners Cooperative (and soon to be US and Intl. Robocoin BTC ATM Operator). - thomas_s - Head of Finance and Robocoin operations. Co-op member since Round 2. Vetted Co-GB Coordinator for Rounds 3 and 4. Lead Group Buy Coordinator for Rounds 5-12. Please contact thomas_s. for questions related to this GB or your order. Works in Finance. - (  ) - Vetted new GB Coordinator. He does not have a forum user account yet, but he is a VP of his own oil company in Texas, and a veteran of the oil/gas industry. He will be our head of financial aspects of deals and contracts, as our veteran contracts expert. Also, head of arbitrage opportunities. - bobsag3 - Head of Mining Operations for DZ MC. Veteran IT Pro. Offers the world's lowest hosting fees for business insured, vetted ASIC miner hosting. We will have the unique advantage of both being able to stockpile and replenish our own ATM BTC inventory at lower costs than competitors. I won't go into details too much about what an advantage this gives us compared to other Robocoin operators. - -Redacted- - Head of Software Support and Hardware Administration. DoD IT Consultant. - jungle_dave: Software and Network Design and Support. Retired EE / Network Engineer. - You! That's right, we can't do this without you. You can help kickstart the American launch of US Robocoins by teaming up with us! You are not an owner in the company, but simply share in 1/200th of the net profits of this ATM, for every share you own in that particular ATM. === Advantages of Robocoin ATM They've launched. Everyone else is either thumb twiddling IMO or not KYC/AML compliant. Advantages of joining the DZ MC Robocoin Operator Network We're arguably the #1 Miners Cooperative on the Group Buys Forum as far as Industrial Class ASIC mining rigs. We have multiple === How will you know that product will even ship? Preorders in the Bitcoin world haven't always gone to plan. However, this product has already successfully launched in Canada, and several more Canadian cities are set to follow. This product was built from the ground up to be FinCEN compliant no matter how the US Congress eventually sets up laws relating to Bitcoin. These ATMs are both KYC and AML compliant and are 100% legal for use in the United States. Am I a part owner of the ATM? No, for legal reasons, you are a backer that shares in 1/200th of the *net BTC profit* of the particular GB. You will be rewarded with BTC deposits every 2 weeks to the wallet address of your choice, upon start of operations minus a hosting/management fee of 3%. So I'm not an owner. How can my voice be heard? This co-op was designed by an IT Network Engineer who also happens to be an amateur US Historian. We're a democratic direct representative democracy, except we're a decision making body that actually gets stuff done. If something is important, we take direct public or PM private votes for all important Round decisions. We pride ourselves in running this co-op in an open, transparent manner, and I have no intention of changing something that works, anytime soon. In voting: - the DZ MC Co-op leaders will only vote at the end of a voting period - will not attempt to sway votes (however, pros/cons will be pointed out among options available) - may control the votes of inactive Group Buy backers who have passed on their voting rights - Hold tiebreaker vote(s) === Caveats It's groundbreaking, we're talking about what could be a controversial and very public launch of America's first Bitcoin ATMs, so potholes may lie ahead as lawmakers wrestle with this cryptocurrency. They must ask themselves: Is it worth anything? Is it a currency? Is it a commodity? How do we tax it so our roads and bridges are maintained and our lights and water stay running? How or do we even want to regulate it? Govt. can seize ATMs and all funds within. We may have no recourse if all of our ATMs are seized by the Federal Govt. Business insurance may not cover such a condition, in which case, we may lose the ATM and the fiat within. Congress could make Bitcoin illegal in the United States (in which case, we simply move ATMs to BTC friendly locations such as Canada and Germany). This risk is offset by the fact that this appears to be a deadlocked and historically unpopular congress that can't even agree to pay the bills in a regular manner. Payment Details You agree to the terms above before sending any payment. You agree that you are of sound mind and body, and have the patience and fortitude to let investments mature over the course of months or even years. [ Your mileage may vary, but for what it's worth: the Vancouver ATM met annual projected ROI in only 2 days. For that ATM in
a city of about 600,000 residents, they're apparently in the "black" for the rest of the year.] [Correction: Updated info listed above, ROI may *not* have been met quite yet.] In addition: ** By agreeing to participate in this Group Buy, you agree that this is considered a high risk investment compared to traditional investment vehicles. You agree to NOT use your money that was primarily meant for: food, clothing, rent/mortgage, short term emergency funds, car payments, insurance, 401(k), IRAs, or children's college funds. These are considered HIGH RISK purchases of hardware, with funds tied up for months, and are NOT meant for those trying to "get rich quick." ** === VOLUME PRICING / SITE OPERATOR APPLICATIONS **** Institutional Investors: Please contact me via PM for special deals if you'd like us to manage Robocoin Bitcoin ATMs on your behalf somewhere. **** ** Site Operators / Partners *** Please contact us if you'd like one of these ATMs placed in your store, bar, resturaunt, shopping mall, or stadium. You will receive a portion of the fees generated from both the buying, selling, and normal ATM functions of this fully KYC and AML compliant Robocoin Bitcoin ATM. Volume discounts exist for large entities such as Restaurant Chains and Sports Leagues such as the NFL and NBA, as well as for entities with just a few locations. Please contact me or thomas_s. to apply to be a Site Operator / Partner in the DZ Miners Cooperative Robocoin Network. ========================================================================================================================================= Image Credit: Original Image _.====.._
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An At-Cost Democratic Miner Co-operative with the world's lowest fees
for vetted miner hosting/management services: 2.75%
65-70 members: 1 Scientist, 7 admitted IT Pros, 3 Network Engineers, 3 Electrical Engineers, 2 Finance Employees, 6 GB Coordinators, multiple vetted host sites.*
*Note: A listing above does not necessarily indicate that this person runs or contributes to the running of the co-operative, but many of the pros listed have made their services available to the co-operative.======================================================================================================================================== This Co-operative is led by a John K. vetted Network Engineer based in Hawaii, DyslexicZombei or DZ, who gets to design prototype IT hardware and lab/field networks in support of cutting edge research projects, and has been in the line of work of T&E and R&D for nearly 10 years, with 50-60 Hawaii/US Aerospace/IT/R&D/Civ. Engineering Endorsements on LinkedIn. The other remote administrators are jungle_dave who is a former Electrical Engineer and Network Engineer and -Redacted- a UNIX guru and veteran miner. Our local/remote admin is bobsag3, who is also an IT veteran. There are 5 leaders in the DZ MC, with thomas_s and I doing the actual running of the Cooperative. Mining Equipment will be operated by vetted IT pros or a vetted IT college student, with backup host sites available. Payouts are every 2 weeks minus a 2.75% Hosting/Management fee, the lowest around. Once sales begin, Refunds available up until unit ships at 1.5% restock fee. We vote on all buying, shipping, and resale decisions as well as vote on the month to attempt equipment resales after 5-7 months of operations. Vetted GB Coordinators are encouraged to team up to increase buying power and close out Group Buys quicker. All suggestions are welcome to help improve our Co-operative. - Approx. total value of GBEC / GBC ASIC pre-order sales or pre-sales of shares on this forum by DZ MC since Aug. 15: $113K- Approx. value of DZ ebay ASIC sales (including 10 ebay shares for 3 GBs, worth $1.4K) since Aug.1 : $3.9K- Several new GBCs and Bitcoin Miner Hosts vetted for free, and several scams pointed out on two BTC related forums.
- Number of FundRaising Rounds completed: 15
- Number of HashFast miners: 2 Baby Jets with paid upgrades, 2 Sierras, 4TH/s+ Total
- Number of KnC miners: 2 Jupiters, 800-1200GH/s.
- Number of Bitmine miners: 1 Rig, 2 Rounds so far, 1.4TH/s, up to 2.5TH/s+
- Number of Black Arrow miners: 60 boards, 2.5 - 3TH/s+
- Total Ordered HashRate: 10.1 TH/s+ Total
- Online Auto reservation system tailored for Group Buys thanks to vetted GBC thomas_s! - Server grade UPS units, a DZ MC gas generator, and a DZ MC Air Conditioner just for our miners in a custom cooled cabinet built by bobsag3, which will allow us to provide a perfect home to explore Overclocking for DZ MC ASIC miner rigs.- New! A sixth GB Coordinator has joined the co-op! He's a VP of his own small oil company in Texas and is helping us to cook up a couple of future projects. Welcome Aboard!
Last order paid: Rounds 11, Black Arrow Bullet Run, $12.3K -Data current as of 11/2/2013 ========================================================================================================================================= |
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would the refund be in BTC (at the time of purchase) or USD?
My vote is: if in BTC then yes, if in USD then no
I think that if they were going to refund you in the currency you paid with. That's what I recall from their commetns. We paid with BTC. |
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Order# 368 from me. I picked up 2 R8B and 1 R11. Same payout address across the board.
Thanks again.
nuffsaid420
Thanks nuffsaid420, and welcome aboard! This Group Buy is still on-going. However, the Flash Sale pricing is OVER and the shares have been readjusted from $60 back up to $70 ea. 73 shares available, $70 ea. |
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Just checking in as the co-op co-leader that I both approve of this message, yet cannot and will not vote unless my vote is needed as a tiebreaker at the very end.
You can also contact me via PM if you'd like me to vote on your behalf on the matter for your shares, an honor I share for a sizable percentage in R2.
The only thing is that I'd vote at the very end of any voting period, after every available member has been given the opportunity to vote. You can reach out to public members of the rounds involved, in order to ask them to vote, if you'd like.
As always: I know and expect our co-op members to behave as adults. And I support that which helps us all safely and rapidly reach an ROI on our shared investments.
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Black Arrow deserves huge credit alongside with bobsag3.
We can't thank Black Arrow enough for being Good Guy manufacturers about bringing this whole chunk of Terahash over to our shores so quickly.
In return, we're they're ultimate real world post-beta testers that lets them fully test out the design/assembly/shipping process months ahead of their full launch, with partners that can walk and chew gum reliably most of the time.
bobsag3, the man of the Bullet Run hour, deserves massive credit for coming through as well under difficult conditions. He tells me that Alex from Black Arrow has done half the work in getting this working. Thank you Alex!
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11/2 update: R9/10 is up to 1.7TH! We're met our minimum hashrate target!
Also, we just passed a co-op milestone that I need to point out...
We just passed the 10 TH mark for PAID orders! It only took 2.5 months to community fund and build this mesh network of miners/investors.
We also just passed the $113K group fundraising mark, meaning that even including our co-op bonuses of: business insurance, world's lowest hosting fees, access to veteran IT pros in software, hardware, networks, and information security, my marketing and project management skills, our tight knit group of co-op creators (11 so far, including mootinator, unknown.usr, philipma, firsttimeuser, and an oil VP that's not on our forum yet), and of course you:
our customers.
For which we wouldn't be celebrating this milestone without you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, on behalf of the DZ MC Co-op leaders and contributors.
Cheers and best wishes!
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bobsag3: needs his own forum meme as Good Guy Bobsag3.
 Ha! Hilarious! FWIW: I'm told our facilities are absolutely 100% smoke free.  |
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Now its getting exciting! GB team, Thank you for putting this all together. I really cant thank you guys enough for doing these group buys. I know its taxing on you guys to do these and you will have to make some changes in the future. But just think of all the people you might have saved from possibly giving money to some bad people. I think most of us here have had our not so pleasant experiences. Even when I was getting frustrated during the roll out of R10 It was a million times better than the experience I had with a company I would like to pull the wings off of. Keep your head up Bobsag3 your doing great. I'm sure it seems all the pressure is on you but dont forget to eat, sleep and drink. Ok, only drink a little.  Best of luck to all of us! And thanks again. M Is that butterfly in the sky? they got me for 534 usd still waiting and banned as a troll from their website. Darnit phil, you literally just gave me an involuntary shiver. They wouldn't refund my 2 Jally pre-orders (or even deign to tell me they weren't refunding after 5 days), and PP was past the 45-60 day window (whatever it is) for refunds, so I went to my CC company for a chargeback. Now PP has limited my wife's ebay PP acct. because they saw it as an unauthorized transaction. Now we have to go thru 4 diff steps or more to get it back to normal. Also, lost $100 profit I had built into that deal (offset with winning a 2BTC bet that BFL wouldn't meet Sept. deadline for July 6 Jallys). All because of some bug, still being a worm. |
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We can now watch the hashrate remotely here via the link below. Thank you Thomas! http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302== Also, all rounds have now been combined for easier accounting and as a bonus to Round 11 and 12 customers. This doesn't effect Round 9 and 10 Group Buyer payouts in any way, but it does allow Round 11 and 12 paid customers earlier hashrate access! bobsag3: needs his own forum meme as Good Guy Bobsag3. |
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Great news! 1.2TH/s+ and climbing. 12-14 more boards can be set up before Monday. We can now watch the hashrate remotely here via the link below. Thank you Thomas! http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302== Also, all rounds have now been combined for easier accounting and as a bonus to Round 11 and 12 customers. This doesn't effect Round 9 and 10 Group Buyer payouts in any way, but it does allow Round 11 and 12 paid customers earlier hashrate access! bobsag3: needs his own forum meme as Good Guy Bobsag3. |
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We can now watch the hashrate remotely here via the link below. Thank you Thomas! http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302== Also, all rounds have now been combined for easier accounting and as a bonus to Round 11 and 12 customers. This doesn't effect Round 9 and 10 Group Buyer payouts in any way, but it does allow Round 11 and 12 paid customers earlier hashrate access! bobsag3: needs his own forum meme as Good Guy Bobsag3. |
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Just dropping in for a quick second, Im still alive.
Current stats (Still speeding up)[BTCGuild Leaderboard]
207 286808 931.30 GH/s
Great news! We're actually at 1.2 TH+ and climbing. He can still do 12-14 more boards before Monday. Hubs are resetting the power strips but so far, so good. Knocking on wood... BTW, we can now watch the hashrate remotely here via the link below. Thank you Thomas! http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302== Also, all rounds have now been combined for easier accounting and as a bonus to Round 11 and 12 customers. This doesn't effect Round 9 and 10 Group Buyer payouts in any way, but it does allow Round 11 and 12 paid customers earlier hashrate access! |
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I'm seeing some very good 'customer service' and behind-the-scenes work going on according to DZ's updates. I'd like to give the team compliments for being so quick to dedicate extra boards, hard working and communicative about what's going on. GJ.
Also, in case you are stressing out, don't :p.
Thanks! We're really trying our best for everyone in the co-op. We're different in that we attempt to be as open, honest, and transparent as possible with the co-op's issues and updates (That and we highly encourage direct representative democracy and voting on major issues in this co-op). I def. know what it feels like to be an ASIC pre-order customer being kept in the dark like a mushroom being fed BS. At least, this way, we're all getting to see how rough a Bullet Run launch can be with the best of intentions; we're essentially all getting to see how "sausage" gets made. I should have some more pics shortly, but I'm taking a little break before posting them. |
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I just checked PMs. R12 is definitely SOLD OUT.
If R12 is oversold, bobsag3 will be running it in an unofficial R13 that is not for sale (meant only for oversales). R13 will only come online once R9-12 are fully up to speed. He needs the pause to get R9-12 up to speed and to catch his breath.
Thank you everyone for making the Black Arrow Fundraising for Rounds 9-12 a huge success!
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Correction: 29 shares are available at the moment.
yes, I bought 10 shares as a trial run. I'm assuming we can see the machines hash once they're up and running? You may have covered this before, there's just a few threads. Regards, Brian a.k.a. Magiklair on DZ miners coop. Thanks for putting a forum name to the order! Thank you and welcome aboard! We'll def. have dashboards running, but please give us some time. Our priority is getting everything hashing first as quickly as possible before we do all the fun, extra stuff. == I need Thomas to confirm numbers but I believe we're down to 15 shares available. |
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