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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 15, 2016, 09:02:26 AM
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

No,
 you left HZ because i didnt make you money.
Frank left FRK for same reason.

Now you got some hype over FB group - people saw how its going sold all coins.
You got them (yeah, went risky vabanque) and self-bought to keep 5000% raise in order to get new people in.


I know you can censor your groups and such but this is how EXP is rolled.

No you are incorrect. Expanse is an opportunity and it is still up quite a bit from a few days ago. People that have been around are very happy and doing well, others are jealous because they were not wise enough to buy in earlier. I can't stop people from buying at the top, and that is not my job. I have been promoting EXP to people in terms of mining mostly, as that is a way that people can get EXP without risking trading. 9 times out of 10, I suggest mining it. Even though that means I get less mining, I care more about growing the project. You are just thinking of how you would do it because that is how you are.

522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 15, 2016, 08:47:19 AM
looks like old coins are history. i hope exp and eth will bring us joy and some profits Cheesy

http://cryptoafterdark.com

Franko was on a radio show yesterday talking about EXP. They should have it uploaded soon. More news will be coming and we will keep up the pace. Thanks!

Smiley
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 15, 2016, 08:11:06 AM
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

I know for a fact that pharesim and cbkr are amongst the most trustful people within the crypto scene, and with the best intentions. What you are saying makes no sense.

At this point you are even dragging Pharesim and Cbkr's names into the mud for no reason. Maybe you can't understand that, but think about it. You really can't see why your own community threw you out? Is it maybe just possible that you are the problem and not everyone else? I know you can't see it, but your being anonymous and unhinged at times is why almost nobody trusts you or wants you around. That is also why SHF did so poorly, your lack of transparency. Nobody trusts anon devs. They have tricked us all too many times.

524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 11:54:28 PM
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 11:34:50 PM
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

Since you mention SHIFT and the 250K premine, people should know which pumpers and dumpers who are behind EXP. I know, because i have talked with several people who are in HZ team, both former and present members. So stop with the bullshit. You all know this, you all know about the pump. The same as happened with HZ a while ago. The same people were behind this pump in EXP. I can give the people in here much more information about this, but you do not want to go there.

The 250K was used up because of the valuation.. 200K in your funds are MUCH more than it was in SHIFT. So make your numbers straight.

Second, what have you done that is "much more" in terms of development? I see nothing, except a homepage, block explorer and your non existing dapp that will act as a DAO...

A dapp is nothing new you know. Its ethereum at its core. Bragging about that in your whitepaper is just retarded. SHIFT had the first gui wallet with the first sql backend.. what have you done?

You are an anonymous dev that quit SHF and came back to it because Expanse was so successful. You launched without even changing the tags from ETH, we announced first, you rushed to get it out first, obviously. I never even mentioned that to anyone until you quit and vanished. You cuss out your community, you come here and insult us for no reason? Funny thing, people were wondering if we should help out SHF, I said no because I don't trust anonymous devs. They are unreliable, flaky, and unstable.

As for you knowing things, how about your real identify if you are not a scammer? My identity and finances are public. I am not some whale. Dan and Franko sure are not. We don't brag about how we are middle class all the time, but we are. Only 200k was ever moved from the reserve, we had nothing to do with millions of USD going into EXP. Likely ETH whales. Even if you think we were behind it, impossible in every way, don't you think we would have waited unless the press release comes out? Think about it.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
We need

New web wallet
And new more stable
Windows wallet

I think price will be rise as etherium is up
And exp is up

Like btc with litecoin

All on the Roadmap. Dan will be working on getting that stuff done ASAP. Smiley
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

Well you know the good thing about the DAO concept, I would think if you don't like it you could vote to burn it in theory if you get enough consensus.

Also I'll ask the reverse question, is there any excuse for devs working for free to make others rich either?
I personally wouldn't have done EXP's branding if I didn't get paid from the bounty. I don't mind premines, most crypto projects fail because devs have no incentive to keep working on a project if there is no financial reward involved. I don't work for free, so why should others?

Well said. We are very experienced in cryptos and know exactly how all this stuff works. Devs all demand payment. For a block explorer Ethercamp wanted 50 thousand dollars, USD, seriously. (We have one, but checked into other options to see about time saving in the past) Videos cost money, press releases cost money. Getting on some foreign exchanges could also cost money. Some stuff Franko has paid out of pocket personally even. Although we are very good at keeping costs down and maximizing value. Speaking of that, for people looking to get paid and that have solid talent, check out Expanse, there could be something for you. We use the reserve to bring more talent in, making it better for everyone, miners, traders, all of us.
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
I have a mining question I'm  running windows 10 pro with ethminer-opencl-0.9.41 .I can only get it to mine with one card installed i don't know if it's the cards or my bat.file that's keeping it from mining with both cards installed  my main card is AMD 7990 with 6 gigs of memory on the card  and the other card is a AMD 7700 with 2 gigs of memory on the card .Could it be the differences  in the cards or my bat.file  which is   " ethminer -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/Daveeoff.5/50 "

Your bat file looks correct, I would guess a difference in the cards. You might have to run a couple instances of it. Although someone else might be able to give you specifics on that. (have not run into this issue)
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 08:45:23 AM
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 01:22:44 AM



This is a DAO. Once you understand the concept it's amazing. In the end it will not matter who started the DAO. All that will matter is if people use it.




Exactly, ideally this evolves past trivial things like who started it. Great that you can understand the potential. All are welcome to be a part.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 14, 2016, 01:19:00 AM


Scam bust is wrong in this case. While the Jumbucks crew is probably involved with many scams, EXP is not one of their scams.

JUmbucks only interviewed this coin.


no.
this coin has guys who failed many projects now they made this.
after hype nobody cared of this so they oubht out and now busted price up between themselves and trying to lurk newbies

really not cool

Nonsense. I was involved in one other project for over a year and it is still active and traded, still on Poloniex and elsewhere. Franko had a couple over many long years, and his Franko coin is still updated and working fine. People are still trading it. Dan was not in any other crypto projects, this is his first, and he is a skilled coder. Nothing I have worked on has failed, ever, not my business, not my social media crypto club, nor any project.

If "nobody cared of this," why are 240+ people signed up in slack? Why such volume and interest? Why do trolls constantly bump this thread with misinformation over and over? Why do scammers make fake accounts and fake conversations to try and harm the project on Reddit Eth forums? You don't care, correct? Actions speak louder than words, if you didn't care you wouldn't be posting.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 10:55:49 PM
Can mining with scrypt miner ??

No, just with GPU.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 10:28:55 PM
Added two new pools to the OP

http://pooleum.com/

and

http://dwarfpool.com/exp

As a promotion we will be giving out a 10% bonus to large new miners who join pooleum http://pooleum.com/ for 1 week. PM me your address and approximate mh if you want to take advantage.



That sounds great. Also sounds like your pool is safe, I wasn't sure who was behind it. (I will mention that to others)
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 07:52:09 PM
Scam bust, you have to be kidding me.

Jumbucks had an ASK ME ANYTHING session, where they invited us for an interview. We participated and answered questions honestly they asked for over an hour. That is being transparent. They invited us out of the blue, we saw no reason not to come. It was open and public for all, and they posted all the information online and nothing was secret.

Franko has done other interviews, we will do more. Most of these will be crypto radio shows, crypto websites, crypto groups. For obvious reasons.


Just don't seek out trading groups

We did not seek out a trading group. I assume Jumbucks is a crypto coin group based around their crypto. I imagine they were curious about Expanse and also wanted some cross promotion by having us on (we do have some followers in the crypto world). I have not heard anything bad about Jumbucks before and saw no reason to deny their request. They came to us.

Additionally, this was a very long time ago, well over a month?
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 05:38:42 PM
How big is the team behind Expanse meanwhile?

Are you actively checking the fixed bugs in the code that bug hunters find in Ethereum's source code? I would imagine many of the bugs that are being found in Ethereum also apply to Ethereum forks but can be quicker fixed, as the work has been already done with Ethereum.

http://bounty.ethdev.com/



We are a small team right now, myself, Christopher Franko, Dan Conway, and maybe someone is being added with media connections....TBA

We plan on expanding in the future.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 05:36:24 PM
Scam bust, you have to be kidding me.

Jumbucks had an ASK ME ANYTHING session, where they invited us for an interview. We participated and answered questions honestly they asked for over an hour. That is being transparent. They invited us out of the blue, we saw no reason not to come. It was open and public for all, and they posted all the information online and nothing was secret.

Franko has done other interviews, we will do more. Most of these will be crypto radio shows, crypto websites, crypto groups. For obvious reasons.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 05:28:37 PM
this increase has been a mirage so I see 350k to 68k

Mirage in what way? We were 12k days ago. Only in crypto is +500% not good enough. Long term holders and miners are doing amazingly well. Best thing if you not involved, have patience and pay attention. I would never suggest buying at the top, but I also don't know what the top is. Expect volatility however, we do have that and EXP is rare.
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 05:22:10 PM
What is up with the crazy price manipulation? When 24 hr volume is several times the size of the marketcap, well... that just isn't natural.

Lots of theories on that. I can share what I know. 

Several traders have said they really love Expanse and might be big players, they could have been involved. (they were tweeting, so certainly they were trading) It is entirely possible some interest or traders out of China were behind it.(Little things like making the mining count a lucky number for China, 8, could influence them... who knows?)

ETH whales, maybe. We do have some information coming out soon, and maybe some people got excited, but certainly it was big money.

What I am 100% certain of, the team was shocked by it all, happy, but shocked. My best estimate was that it was just a perfect storm of some large investors, interest, and small investors all hitting at once.

Thanks for the reply on this. Didn't this happen a month or two ago as well? I remember seeing price skyrocket and volume was several times the cap.

At release Expanse was crazy popular and went on all the key exchanges within 24 hours. By the time it hit Poloniex it went crazy high. Obviously it corrected, over corrected in my view. After that and continued development, that were several +100% or more spikes, but nothing this dramatic.
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 05:20:50 PM
Why ppl want expanse?

There are only 1,170,379 EXP available now.
EXP will switch (probably) to PoS before 2 millions coin.
You'll need a minimum amount of EXP to benefit from PoS (probably 1000+)

...

We can code it any way we want, that is the beauty of having the freedom to do so.
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: February 13, 2016, 04:55:04 PM
As some of you know, Ethereum will be going proof of stake in the future. Expanse can also do this, or anything else. If you have opinions to share on what direction we should go, please feel free to chime in. We have the freedom to basically do whatever we want here.

http://forum.expanse.tech/topic/41/seeking-community-input-on-future-update-options
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