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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 24, 2015, 12:57:23 AM
EXP great new AIDEN coin from 100k to 100 satoshi  Grin

No, it is quite rare and the price is still technically low. We are a team and this isn't a tribute coin, but rather a project with a non anonymous experienced team. If you don't like it, fine, but if you trade cryptos and think that is a realistic assessment, I strongly disagree with your appraisal skills. Less than a million EXP out now. Smart contracts will start coming out and more news in the future.

I objectively think this is a great one to mine and keep an eye on, as I expect ETH will do well next year, as will Augur, and we are positioned very well with key exchanges as a great alt.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=558414.0

History repeats

Nothing in common other than Franko was involved in that other project. Non anonymous devs have histories that can be checked, and whatever you feel about Frankos projects, he never abandoned them and stuck around for years. My view is that I trust him BECAUSE he didn't vanish, and that is partly why I was willing to partner with him. Finding Devs that stick around isn't easy here. This is a project that is much safer than most, as we will be here in the future and we have been sticking around for years in the open.
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 23, 2015, 10:19:22 PM
So how does it work with the premine? The devs get 1% or 110,000 EXP per month? Then, can they do whatever they want with those 110,000? or do they need to vote on what happens with those funds?

If its a vote, does the public see the results of the vote in real time? For example if the devs decide to dump for funds, do we get to know right away?

Great questions. Most of the reserve/premine is for the community to vote on and is not designed to go to the founders/team. There is 1 million exp for the team that we get for doing the work, that is set aside for the future, and we will start distribution of it once we have built up the project and value enough. This is a long term project and we designed it so we could fund it for the long run. Only a small amount will be released to team members at a time, and that is down the road once the project is ready for it. (It will be announced well in advance)

So right now for example, I only have what EXP I might be mining. Down the road the team will have some more, but we we would only use for funding carefully as we are experienced traders and want to support the market as much as possible.

The vast majority is for funding 3rd party devs and projects to build up the value. All of that will be transparent, and votes in that case will be based on blockchain snapshots, at least in terms of EXP based votes. Not sure if real time updates, but certainly everything would be fairly quick with all other results at that point.

The Whitepaper goes into a bit more detail. I have it uploaded here in case you are interested:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/expanseofficial
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 23, 2015, 09:39:49 PM
EXP great new AIDEN coin from 100k to 100 satoshi  Grin

No, it is quite rare and the price is still technically low. We are a team and this isn't a tribute coin, but rather a project with a non anonymous experienced team. If you don't like it, fine, but if you trade cryptos and think that is a realistic assessment, I strongly disagree with your appraisal skills. Less than a million EXP out now. Smart contracts will start coming out and more news in the future.

I objectively think this is a great one to mine and keep an eye on, as I expect ETH will do well next year, as will Augur, and we are positioned very well with key exchanges as a great alt.
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 23, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
Someone reported some issue with the website on the Expanse Forums, the white paper and such is also on Facebook if people are looking for that.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/expanseofficial/

I have informed Dan about the website and will contact Franko about address questions. Keep in mind Christmas eve is tomorrow, but of course it is nice we are getting some attention. Smiley



It is good to see that Expanse is getting the attention it deserves. Price has been going up lately, so that it is good news as well. I hope that next year there would be good innovations for Expanse and hopefully become the best Ethereum alternative out there.  Smiley

Thank you! I certainly think we can offer that, and ideally get more people involved. Smiley
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 23, 2015, 09:17:45 PM
Someone reported some issue with the website on the Expanse Forums, the white paper and such is also on Facebook if people are looking for that.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/expanseofficial/

"christopherfranko [3:19 PM]
premine addresses are in the genesis.son file"
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 16, 2015, 03:29:23 AM

The reserve is a set of funds managed by the Expanse Organization. These reserve funds are managed directly by the decentralized organization using smart contracts running on Expanse. The organization's funds are locked in a contract and made progressively available to the organization distributed evenly over time. 10% of the community reserve (1.1m exp) will be distributed to the foundation core slowly over time for long term development costs, with only 10% of that total available at launch to help with development and pay for initial bounties, with the rest of the foundation reserve to be slowly distributed to the team over a year using smart contracts, and the remaining 90% is to be used as determined by the Expanse Organization as a whole.


How can we verify that? I mean, where is source code of this contract and what is it's (Expanse) address?



Hello everyone.

We created a coloring book for the expanse whitepaper and a competition that rewards △1000 to artist who can color it the best.

http://forum.expanse.tech/topic/25/expanse-whitepaper-coloring-book-and-coloring-competition





8 Bit Party, you are connecting things that have no connection. I made the coloring book for fun after some complained the White Paper was "boring and too long to read." That is not to prove anything, this was not made by Franko, and this was just to have some fun with the problem of explaining complicated things on a level everyone can understand.

The reserve addresses all contain the same amounts and that can be verified, but this is a work in progress and we are just starting on all the stuff in the Whitepaper. If you are legitimately concerned about the reserve, the facts we all know is that it has been secure for many months now, and at WAY HIGHER prices.

I actually agree with you that I want the proof of smart contacts also clear and easy for everyone to understand. This is essential to have a much higher marketcap. Trust must be proven with smart contracts and as easy to understand as the silly coloring book I made. In fact I told Franko in private that should be the #1 priority, we must prove to big and small holders that everything is safe, and that they don't have to rely on just reputation.

Franko and Dan should have what you are looking for ready in the future.
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 15, 2015, 10:44:24 PM
No risk with this coin, we are expecting real price for this coin. This coin is very cheap for now.

ANOTHER DEV multiaccount.



THIS IS A SCAM COIN DON'T BUY IT DON'T TRADE IT IT WILL GO DOWN TO ONE SATOSHI SOON

I have one real account, this one, but you guys have countless bullshit accounts FUDing us constantly. I have to admit Franko and I had to convince Dan to make this thread non moderated, but I am shocked how slimy our competitors are. Anyway, Mr Videodrome, why should anyone trust you? One satoshi? What math is that based on? You know there are less than a million coins out? The marketcap is basically nothing right now, thanks in part to people like you of course. It is only around 15k, if you think it is overpriced, you should get out of cryptocurrency, you are terrible at evaluating prices. We are also certainly the best positioned Ethereum alt and with a non anonymous team. We will be here long after the others are forgotten.
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: December 15, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
I am just checking in real quick. I made the Whitepaper coloring book for Expanse, so any praise or blame should go to me. Franko approved it though, so he should get some too, haha.

This coloring book was to give an amusing very short and easy to understand overview of Expanse. You should real the *real* Whitepaper for more details. Smiley

Slack and Facebook is where I am the most active, not here.
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 28, 2015, 06:08:19 PM
It varies a bit, right now the main ETH pool I have used in the past is having some issue so I can't check the exact comparison. Mining the most profitable coins and then selling to BTC, or buying something like EXP with it is technically the best strategy.

So you equalize (future) BTC value to "something like EXP value". Sounds legit.


No one knows the future price of btc or any crypto for that matter. A couple years ago, when asked, all the "bitcoin experts" were high on hopium and spouting prices like $100k per coin! Here we are today happy about $300 a coin. With that being said, I remember buying them at $0.25 a piece and have the alpaca socks to prove it. If someone is an exp community member they might just want to mine other coins to buy exp.

This was in response to someone that was interested in acquiring EXP from mining. What I was explaining is that they can either mine it directly, or mine something else and sell that and then buy EXP with it.

I personally hold EXP I mine as I think that might work out well in the future. Does that mean EXP will be some crazy high price? Not necessarily, working out well can be perhaps +20%, it can be +200% or more, that is unknown. There are never any guarantees for prices, and I never made any, but generally I think it is fairly safe mining EXP with a few cards as there isn't much risk that way.
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 26, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
I have now heard of this coin. How much EXP  I can mine for the day with a 1 x ATI 7970 and what is it hash ? Which graphics card is the best for mine EXP?

Hmm, maybe 30 a day? Depends how many are mining. I usually get about 125 or so a day with 4 280x cards. This varies of course, but I think this is a good time for hobbyist miners to gather coins and hold. Very little risk with just a card or two.

Is that more profitable to mine EXP than ETH. if it is, then you can mine ETH and sell for EXP. Of course when you are mining EXP, you are supporting the EXP network.

It varies a bit, right now the main ETH pool I have used in the past is having some issue so I can't check the exact comparison. Mining the most profitable coins and then selling to BTC, or buying something like EXP with it is technically the best strategy. For hobbyist miners that don't have a lot of time switching around, like myself often times, it can also work out to just mine something with development like EXP and wait. There is little risk since most of us only have a few cards, and if it rises later then that can pay off well.
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 26, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
I have now heard of this coin. How much EXP  I can mine for the day with a 1 x ATI 7970 and what is it hash ? Which graphics card is the best for mine EXP?

Hmm, maybe 30 a day? Depends how many are mining. I usually get about 125 or so a day with 4 280x cards. This varies of course, but I think this is a good time for hobbyist miners to gather coins and hold. Very little risk with just a card or two.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 26, 2015, 11:05:51 AM
If this coin wants to be taken seriously as not a scam, there needs to be a page showing all premined coin transactions with a description of it's use and the voting results.

You raise an extremely important point. I'll get onto this and sort something out. Thank you for the advice!

http://forum.expanse.tech/topic/11/can-we-grow-our-user-base-5-per-week

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Well my first thought is transparency.. Not just any transparency.. Transparency for the non technical..

I think a really good idea would be to have something on the website that shows when and where what funds are going to what and why.

With a bit of code.. Maybe a DAPP? this could be automated. Or in the meantime could have something on the forum here that is updated manually and linked to from the website.

I'll gladly take on this role for the time been but ultimately, an auto updating section on the website would be the best way to go I think.

I made some responses there, but I think a simple report could suffice in the meantime. No reason we can't have a detailed report so people can feel safer about EXP. Nothing to hide here, so this would be a positive to report and share. (compares well to the other options)
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 26, 2015, 10:15:48 AM



If this coin wants to be taken seriously as not a scam, there needs to be a page showing all premined coin transactions with a description of it's use and the voting results.




There are no voting results yet as the DAO is still being built. The team has 10% of the reserve for development to be used over a year, 90% is for the DAO and is totally untouched. We talked about this quite a bit and it is in the OP, but I agree the distribution of every coin should be made clear to those not following closely. About 50k of it that was used, and we paid a bounty for the logo. Franko managed this and I did none of it myself, I have never even seen an EXP I didn't mine with my 4 GPUs, other than 1-2 sent as tests.

I agree 100% that everything like this needs to be totally transparent. We will even have Dapps about this in time, but what is certain is that only the smallest amount has been used, but yes, I think more than just having addresses would be great. I don't really think it is anyone's business what some 3rd party dev, or any dev, does with some bounty after they are paid, but it is everyone's business who is paid what and when.
594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 25, 2015, 02:20:21 AM
The main problem with the Expanse is the orderly dump of the so called development fund. If it is dumped too quickly, price will crash.

Who is dumping the developmental fund? The blockexplorer shows that the devs addresses havnt made a single tx in a 3 weeks m8. The only people selling are the miners. Miners always sell. Why is this so confusing for everyone?



This is true. So just imagine how low the price is going to go once the development funds get dumped! I'm just sitting on the side lines with this coin. No need to pay attention to this coin for another 8 months.

If you're a developer this looks like a good chance to learn about cryptocoins and get paid in them.


This isn't just a situation where we are trying to give out money at random to whomever can code something. Look at the facts, we paid one bounty for the logo so far, that is it. Everything else the team has taken care of. Now, I do know some devs working on something unique for Expanse that could add a lot of value, and if they are successful with it, sure, they can get a bounty. It would be worth it though since it would add a lot of value to the platform. We are really looking for Killer Apps/Dapps, not just handing out money to create selling pressure, but rather real development that builds up the platform and value for everyone.
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 23, 2015, 03:30:12 PM
The main problem with the Expanse is the orderly dump of the so called development fund. If it is dumped too quickly, price will crash.

Who is dumping the developmental fund? The blockexplorer shows that the devs addresses hasnt made a single tx in a 3 weeks m8. The only people selling are the miners. Miners always sell. Why is this so confusing for everyone?

Didn't happen, definitely POW selling from miners and the initial run up making the price fairly high. We are fully aware of selling pressure and that is why we didn't create any. There was one bounty paid to a 3rd party for the logo, that is it. There is a fairly decent amount mined each day of course, and many miners will just sell, and this is seen in most all POW coins including Ethereum. We are however working on development to increase demand over time.
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 20, 2015, 06:05:21 PM
Debugging successful, mac wallet testing now. edit: testing successful, mac beta wallet is operational now.

597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 20, 2015, 04:13:43 PM
Price is dropping again.

i've been warning people since the price was over 10 times the current price that these guys are scammers.

they dumped 50k EXP on people and are still dumping 50k more of the initial premine.  they plan to dump 100k (1% of the 11 million premine) each month.

they say they don't care about price which is because they have free coins from the premine.  why would they buy coins at 200 satoshis when they have it for free?  they can sell to you at 200 satoshis and still make a profit!

devs aren't putting up buy support and are blaming "whales" for the high initial 200k price.  a more likely story is they are the "whales" who pushed the price and volume early so they could dump on everyone.  think about it.

last time i sold was 12.5k. i showed you screen shots. now the price hit 0.00006001 on poloniex and 0.00006553 on bittrex. the market cap is below $10,000.

this coin will NEVER reach 20k satoshis again.


This isn't even news. The sad part is that the developers are still somehow claiming 'fair launch' after tucking 11 million coins in what is now clear is nothing but a premine-for-capital that they will no doubt 'pay developers' with. Aka. Give to themselves every time they spend 45 minutes in MS Paint making a logo or registering a domain name.

This isnt even news. The sad part is that sockpuppets are conveniently illiterate. Nothing was "tucked away". Everything was talked about weeks before launch. For people who hate expanse so bad you sheila sure talk about it more than the people who love it! You Sheila's are better than paid shills. Everytime you make a dumb cunt comment like this it doesnt help your cause. But wait a minute. What exactly is your cause? If its to keep this thread bumped m8 then you might be on to something after all. Brown eyed mullets, brown eyed mullets everywhere. Now stick that in your bondi cigar and smoke it.

+1000

Every time we see some troll FUDing, that doesn't weaken our resolve, it gives us more incentive to prove them wrong in every possible way.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 20, 2015, 04:10:24 PM
"this coin will NEVER reach 20k satoshis again."

This is from the same person that said Expanse is Horizon 2.0, ok, let's imagine that were the case. After enough development Horizon reached a marketcap of 10x-25x higher than we have here now. So why in the world would we never reach 20k satoshis again? Hell, we hit up to 16.5k last night on Bittrex. This FUD is really weak and not based in reality.
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 20, 2015, 03:57:14 PM


Dan is working on the Mac wallet now and I am helping test and debug. Franko is working on the Whitepaper, and we are also assisting with that. (Getting much closer to a completed White Paper that will provide a great amount of detail)
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 20, 2015, 03:54:33 PM
Price is dropping again.

i've been warning people since the price was over 10 times the current price that these guys are scammers.

they dumped 50k EXP on people and are still dumping 50k more of the initial premine.  they plan to dump 100k (1% of the 11 million premine) each month.

they say they don't care about price which is because they have free coins from the premine.  why would they buy coins at 200 satoshis when they have it for free?  they can sell to you at 200 satoshis and still make a profit!

devs aren't putting up buy support and are blaming "whales" for the high initial 200k price.  a more likely story is they are the "whales" who pushed the price and volume early so they could dump on everyone.  think about it.

last time i sold was 12.5k. i showed you screen shots. now the price hit 0.00006001 on poloniex and 0.00006553 on bittrex. the market cap is below $10,000.

this coin will NEVER reach 20k satoshis again.


This isn't even news. The sad part is that the developers are still somehow claiming 'fair launch' after tucking 11 million coins in what is now clear is nothing but a premine-for-capital that they will no doubt 'pay developers' with. Aka. Give to themselves every time they spend 45 minutes in MS Paint making a logo or registering a domain name.

That is a bunch of crap, we used about 50k and paid one bounty for the logo so far. This is all on the blockchain, and anyone that can think logically would realize is we were dishonest we would have sold tons when the price was much higher, not hold. How many devs use less than they said they would? Just about none, and we do care about having as little impact on the price as possible. We are not happy there was such a big run up on price as some can feel burned, nothing to do with us though, and we are working constantly on improving and building Expanse. We are also getting to a more realistic starting price now, but I suggest traders have patience and just watch the charts for a good buy in price, if they want to buy.
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