Wait are you talking about the neteller debit card similar to like the skrill debit card?  Or do you mean a regular visa card? 


So you are saying being American, I can still order this card and have it sent to the US?  I know there is a neteller or skrill card but I heard those cards can only be sent and used in european countries though.  Are we talking about this card or something else?

Alright.  Well if that is the case, what are my options then to trade my neteller USD funds then?  Again I want to convert it to crypto.  Or boa/zelle.

Okay then what are my options then?

What do you mean by visa card?  Any visa card I have whether debit or credit is with my US bank account... thus this would not work.


I heard of transferwise.  Anyone can get that account regardless right?  Again I'm American in another country.  But the issue is I don't think i could withdraw those neteller funds to the transferwise account?


Well if I have a wise account, couldn't i just wire the money to my US bank account then?  Again my issue here is converting the neteller USD funds... into either crypto or US bank account funds.

Anyone have any other options here?  I want to convert my neteller USD gambling funds into crypto.

I found out that I cannot withdraw any btc from neteller to my own crypto wallet.  Neteller support tells me the country that I'm located in and thus registered with... does not allow this option.  I think very few countries allow this option as I read online, its not many countries that support it.  Basically you can buy btc with neteller funds... but the issue is you cannot withdraw the btc to your own crypto wallet... which makes it pointless.



Does anyone have any other options?  The only one seems to be paybis?  But when you factor in the fees... its around 8% total?  That is a lot of fee to pay to convert neteller usd funds to btc.  Certainly there has to be places that allow you to convert for less?  This makes zero sense why it cost this much to convert neteller to btc?



Is there any other options?  Again I'm an American that relocated outside the US years ago and thus have a non US neteller registered account for years that I been using for mainly depositing/withdrawing into gambling sites.  I cannot use binance because I'm an American.  So what options do I have here?  Again I have neteller USD and want to swap it for either boa/zelle or crypto.  I would prefer crypto more.  Now if I could withdraw crypto from neteller, then this would be very simple but I cannot.



Anyone have any options here?



Normally I swap my neteller funds for boa/zelle funds with no fee.

I found out that I cannot withdraw any btc from neteller to my own crypto wallet.  Neteller support tells me the country that I'm located in and thus registered with... does not allow this option.  I think very few countries allow this option as I read online, its not many countries that support it.  Basically you can buy btc with neteller funds... but the issue is you cannot withdraw the btc to your own crypto wallet... which makes it pointless.



Does anyone have any other options?  The only one seems to be paybis?  But when you factor in the fees... its around 8% total?  That is a lot of fee to pay to convert neteller usd funds to btc.  Certainly there has to be places that allow you to convert for less?  This makes zero sense why it cost this much to convert neteller to btc?



Is there any other options?  Again I'm an American that relocated outside the US years ago and thus have a non US neteller registered account for years that I been using for mainly depositing/withdrawing into gambling sites.  I cannot use binance because I'm an American.  So what options do I have here?  Again I have neteller USD and want to swap it for either boa/zelle or crypto.  I would prefer crypto more.  Now if I could withdraw crypto from neteller, then this would be very simple but I cannot.

Hi.  I can't use binance because I'm American.  Even though I'm outside the US, my documents would be US and they won't accept it.


So is there any other options?  Paxful and localbitcoins charges a huge fee for this.  The thing that has me confused is why are fees this high?  I mean if I have neteller and want btc, why is the fees even more than 3 percent.  I find that even high since if you look at sites like coinbase, they charge one percent or so.

Yes that is how much neteller charges assuming you aren't vip.  So there is a sending fee.


I took a look at bitpanda but my neteller is in USD.  It seems they only take skrill in usd?  Also the thing is I'm an American that is outside the US.  I assume there is no issue on this even though I have my documents?


I cannot use binance as I am American.  My account I cannot submit KYC due to me being American.  Back then I had no issues using it but that was before KYC.

Has anyone here used paybis and can give their opinion?  Looking at the site, if you want to trade neteller for btc... when you factor in the neteller fee which is around 5.5 percent, the paybis fee being 2.5 percent, you are looking at paying 8% to swap neteller for btc?  

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I am checking my neteller account.  I do see crypto in the tab and it allows me to buy/sell.  However, I don't believe I could withdraw the crypto to my own wallet?  How do you know if your country is allowed for you to withdraw it to your own wallet?  It mention only 11 countries allow this option so how do you know if you can?



I want to withdraw the crypto to my own wallet and not have it there... like paypal which would be pointless.

So I have access to neteller at the moment.  I do see option to buy/sell crypto in neteller.  But I cannot send the crypto I buy to my own btc address?


I heard some countries do allow you to withdraw the crypto to your own wallet.  But I can't do this?  Does anyone have the full list of countries where you could actually withdraw crypto to your own wallet?  Otherwise this would be useless as it would be similar to like paypal.

So I have access to neteller at the moment.  I do see option to buy/sell crypto in neteller.  But I cannot send the crypto I buy to my own btc address?


I heard some countries do allow you to withdraw the crypto to your own wallet.  But I can't do this?  Does anyone have the full list of countries where you could actually withdraw crypto to your own wallet?  Otherwise this would be useless as it would be similar to like paypal.

I read about the top so and so richest btc addresses etc.  I have a nano ledger with btc in it.  How do I know how much of my btc are in one address or in multiple addresses?  Now if I want to be able to see if there has been any activity in that wallet, I could just copy/paste it on a site and it would show it?  Let say someone is traveling or do not have access to their laptop which contain their ledger live.  Say they only have their phone but did have their btc address on their phone.  How does one check if there was any activity?



Now every altcoin out there has this option as well?  Example say you store waves in the waves exchange client to make it simple.  They give you a wave address associated with the account.  Does this mean when you are traveling or if you don't have your device where you store your waves in... as long as you have the waves address associated with the account, you could literally check online to see if there are any recent transactions?  Could you see what your full waves balance is as well?   And if so, what site is that?

Assuming you do not have access to your waves wallet but want to check if there has been any transfers from the waves address associated with the account, how do you check this?  For example i know with btc, if you type in your btc receiving address, well it would show the balance and history right?



But if you enter your long waves address for a specific waves account, what would you be able to see?  Example imagine you are on vacation and do not have your waves wallet on you because its in a computer.  You want to use your phone to check if your funds are safe etc.  And say the only thing you have is your waves address.  You do not have the seed.



What site do you copy/paste that waves address to ... to see if any transactions have been done recently?  Could you see internal transactions?  Could you see what the waves balance is currently for a waves address?

Thanks for the response.


When I say lazy way... I mean imagine everytime you want to receive btc from someone, you give them the exact same btc receiving address that you once generated with nano ledger.   Thus that is not good for privacy or security since those people can see all your transaction history right?  Now if you use a new address each time for receiving, the person who is sending you btc could see no transaction history with that address you provided them and even after they send you btc, well thats the only transaction they will see?  Someone said always generate a new btc receiving address you receive each time you receive so that way... people wouldn't know about your transaction history and they wouldn't know if you own how much btc.  Would you say that is accurate then?


You say


Wait for 3-6 blockchain confirmations to be safe.  


So once it shows minimum 3 confirmations, there is zero concern?  Someone else mentioned at least 3 confirmations if its a big amount.  2 confirmations if its smaller amount.  So you telling me if there is 1 or 2 confirmations, its still possible for a transaction to get reversed/cancelled?  Or is the only term for that called double spend?  The thing is I would be trading with stranger so I want to make sure I am receiving the btc.  



Someone else said you don't even need to click on that link the sender gives you with the blockchain info and you can just check your btc receiving address to see if there is any ongoing transactions.  You say that as well.  So you telling me its the same as you searching the blockstream info link?  Well I mentioned last time I want to be more careful with clicking links so I'm not sure why you are being so hard on me here.  Such that someone sending you the transaction id... well it might look like it... but it could be malware/virus.  So you never heard of cases of that?  Its like someone give a link to something but when you click on it... its something else.  But its hard to do this with a transaction id?  Yea I know you can copy the id from the end of the link and paste it... but when you do that, you gotta be very careful in case you click on it.  That is another issue I have here etc.  



So blockstream.info is the main website for checking the status of a transaction?



I meant if you give someone your btc receiving address but say you do tons of transactions with the same address, that is obviously not safe since someone can look up all your transactions?  That is what I meant by that.  I phrased that in a bad way.  Thus I meant I wouldn't want to give someone my btc receiving address where they could check my entire btc sending/receiving history.

Thanks for the responses.


So 2 confirmations is the minimum for amounts that isn't a lot.  By that how much USD are you talking about?  You say If it's a good amount of money though, probably go with 3+ just for your peace of mind.  So you are saying 3+ confirmations, there is no chance of a double spend or anything like that happening?  Thus once you see 3 confirmations, the transaction is not reversible?  But anything less such as 2, its still possibly?


Oh wait if I give someone the btc address to send to, well I could just type in that btc address I gave and see if there is an pending transaction?  Is that correct?  Well I meant if someone says okay I just sent the btc, here is the transaction id on the blockchain, well if you click on it, someone could make a link like that a virus/malware right?  Someone else mention just copy and paste it to blockchain and look at transaction that way.  Thoughts on that?  But you can't see how many confirmations there are just by checking your btc receiving address on blockchain right?  Or its the same?  The look at the recent in bound transaction is what Im curious about here.


Well I have used nano ledger to send/receive and don't believe I have reused an address to receive.  So that means if I give them the btc receiving address, if they were to check it online, there should be 0 transaction history right?  The thing was I heard if you reused addresses, then giving someone your btc receiving address could mean they see all your btc transaction history such as how much btc you send/receive total which is obviously not good for privacy.  Yea what you said with the it could become security risk if another party knows you own a ton of btc for example.


But you say giving someone your btc receiving address should be no issue almost ever as long as you don't reuse the address right?  So when you get the btc receiving address from nano ledger, what is the site I go to ... to check the transaction history of the btc receiving address?  I should do that everytime right?  Just to see if it show any history before giving that receiving address to someone to send?  Now once they send you btc, that transaction will show in the history.  And any transactions you do whether sending or receiving more btc from then... using different receiving address of course, should have no impact on this?  Also that mean that one btc receiving address you gave to one person will always have just that ONE transaction history and thats all?

So I will be planning to receive some btc from someone and trading funds with them and have a few questions.  I don't believe I ever done this once with my nano ledger ever.  But I have requested btc from sites before without issue.  But dealing with people is obviously much different than just giving a site my btc address and saying okay send the btc here.




1. I know when I check my btc receiving address on my nano ledger s with ledger live, it starts with the number 3 which means its a nest segwit address right?  The thing is after I do that transaction with that receiving address... say the next day I connect my nano ledger to my laptop again and request a receiving address, will the btc receiving address always be different?  I remember people said never use a same receiving address more than once.  So this is still accurate right?  So each time you want to receive btc or any crypto on your nano ledger, always connect to it and get a receiving address which will be new?  The lazy and unsafe way would be use the receiving btc address and just save that address and just give that btc address to anyone who you planning to receive btc from?
 



2.  Now when someone else sends me btc, does it matter what address they are sending from?  Such as legacy, nest segwit or the other segwit?  As long as it copy and paste them my btc receiving address, that is all that is needed?  I know with sites, that is no issue as I never had a problem with a site requesting btc.  But with other people, I want to make sure of this.  Such that they don't say I sent btc and I say... well it didn't go through.




3. After they tell me they sent me the btc, how many confirmations before I know the transaction will go through?  I remember the rule a while back was if it was below a certain amount, x number of confirmations.  If its between a certain amount, it should be x confirmations.  And if its higher than a certain amount, like minimum x confirmations?   I will most likely send funds first since well they would be sending a nonreversible method.  But if they are sending btc first, how do I make sure the transaction will eventually go through without that double spend thing that I heard of years ago?  Such that I don't want to see the transaction showing with say 2 confirmations, then only for the transaction to get cancelled?  

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4. Also this might be a foolish question but when someone sends btc or any coin and does a transaction, I know there is a transaction id where you click on and it goes to the blockchain and you see how many confirmations there are and the process of the transfer.  Now... is there any chance someone can send you a link to that seems to be the transaction id but when you click on it, it could be malware/virus?  I assume this can be easily done right?  Such as you click on it and it doesn't direct you to the blockchain of the transaction but could be malware?  If so, how do you counter this?  I assume you could just manually type in that entire long letter/number of the transaction id in the blockchain to track it?  Imagine someone going okay here is the transaction id info on the blockchain of the btc I just sent... then you click on it and it could be malware/virus?
 



5.  I read a thread not long ago that someone asked if you have someone's btc receiving address, you could see their history or a lot of details about it.  I remember I thought the answers I was going to read was going to say false especially if someone doesn't reuse their btc receiving address more than once.  But apparently that is not true?  I remember people said someone could actually find out all your btc transaction history that way?  I remember back when I used electrum, I did used the same receiving address multiple times.  I had no idea that it was bad.  But I did it way too much already.  So by the time I stopped doing that, there were too many transactions already with that receiving address.  I then used other addresses and eventually got tons of different change addresses.  Then I eventually moved my coins from electrum to nano ledger.  Each time I would receive btc, I would connect my ledger to laptop to get the btc receiving address.  I do not know for sure if I ever reused a receiving address more than once.  Is there a way to find this out or not?  But giving my btc receiving address to someone for them to send to me, does that pose much of any security risk?

So I will be planning to receive some btc from someone and trading funds with them and have a few questions.  I don't believe I ever done this once with my nano ledger ever.  But I have requested btc from sites before without issue.  But dealing with people is obviously much different than just giving a site my btc address and saying okay send the btc here.




1. I know when I check my btc receiving address on my nano ledger s with ledger live, it starts with the number 3 which means its a nest segwit address right?  The thing is after I do that transaction with that receiving address... say the next day I connect my nano ledger to my laptop again and request a receiving address, will the btc receiving address always be different?  I remember people said never use a same receiving address more than once.  So this is still accurate right?  So each time you want to receive btc or any crypto on your nano ledger, always connect to it and get a receiving address which will be new?  The lazy and unsafe way would be use the receiving btc address and just save that address and just give that btc address to anyone who you planning to receive btc from?
 



2.  Now when someone else sends me btc, does it matter what address they are sending from?  Such as legacy, nest segwit or the other segwit?  As long as it copy and paste them my btc receiving address, that is all that is needed?  I know with sites, that is no issue as I never had a problem with a site requesting btc.  But with other people, I want to make sure of this.  Such that they don't say I sent btc and I say... well it didn't go through.




3. After they tell me they sent me the btc, how many confirmations before I know the transaction will go through?  I remember the rule a while back was if it was below a certain amount, x number of confirmations.  If its between a certain amount, it should be x confirmations.  And if its higher than a certain amount, like minimum x confirmations?   I will most likely send funds first since well they would be sending a nonreversible method.  But if they are sending btc first, how do I make sure the transaction will eventually go through without that double spend thing that I heard of years ago?  Such that I don't want to see the transaction showing with say 2 confirmations, then only for the transaction to get cancelled?  

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4. Also this might be a foolish question but when someone sends btc or any coin and does a transaction, I know there is a transaction id where you click on and it goes to the blockchain and you see how many confirmations there are and the process of the transfer.  Now... is there any chance someone can send you a link to that seems to be the transaction id but when you click on it, it could be malware/virus?  I assume this can be easily done right?  Such as you click on it and it doesn't direct you to the blockchain of the transaction but could be malware?  If so, how do you counter this?  I assume you could just manually type in that entire long letter/number of the transaction id in the blockchain to track it?  Imagine someone going okay here is the transaction id info on the blockchain of the btc I just sent... then you click on it and it could be malware/virus?
 



5.  I read a thread not long ago that someone asked if you have someone's btc receiving address, you could see their history or a lot of details about it.  I remember I thought the answers I was going to read was going to say false especially if someone doesn't reuse their btc receiving address more than once.  But apparently that is not true?  I remember people said someone could actually find out all your btc transaction history that way?  I remember back when I used electrum, I did used the same receiving address multiple times.  I had no idea that it was bad.  But I did it way too much already.  So by the time I stopped doing that, there were too many transactions already with that receiving address.  I then used other addresses and eventually got tons of different change addresses.  Then I eventually moved my coins from electrum to nano ledger.  Each time I would receive btc, I would connect my ledger to laptop to get the btc receiving address.  I do not know for sure if I ever reused a receiving address more than once.  Is there a way to find this out or not?  But giving my btc receiving address to someone for them to send to me, does that pose much of any security risk?

Yea what he posted is how HCP suggested to check ledger live. 

Just to confirm.  If someone got access to your google authenticator or authy or those other two factor authorization character code or backups, could they get access to your coinbase/gemini account?


Is it similar to like if you have someone's seed phrase for their nano ledger ledger or software wallet, then they have access to your coinbase/gemini account?