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6101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 04, 2018, 08:59:02 PM

I however explained all of my positions in detail, and explained why your positions are dangerous. I haven't answered your questions because they are retarded nonsense loaded questions. If you want to rephrase them in a less presumptuous way I would be happy to answer.
You haven't explained when borders started being recognized.  You said that they are an ancient thing and you said they should always be respected but you won't answer this question because it is retarded.  It is retarded because it paints you into a crossroads of hypocrisy and capitulation.  You don't believe what you actually typed.  You don't think we should recognize the sovereignty of native lands because it would be contrary to your goal.  There is no way you can be consistent on this topic so its better to just not answer questions.


Yeah because that was the retarded Postmodernist mind mush loaded question I was talking about. Can't defend getting rid of borders? Hey lets have a philosophical conversation about the concept and history of borders so we can avoid talking about all the resulting rapes, murders, and stress on public resources created by not enforcing it. I said the concept was ancient, not that "ancient borders should always be respected". Good attempt at word salad spin though!

"...paints you into a crossroads of hypocrisy and capitulation."

BWAHAHAHAA. Ok captain Postmodern. Hey here is a question for you. Can you show me a border not created by blood and conquest? Again you completely rely on relativism and some kind of pathetic play on some kind of misplaced guilt people have for displaced the natives, or beating back Mexico in war. They weren't nice people. They didn't live in a nice time.

That was how shit was done everywhere. Frankly you trying to exploit this to create a sense of guilt today is completely nonsensical because it would equally apply to any nation. I guess nations shouldn't exist any more either right? You'd love it if we had just one big Communist global government wouldn't you?


I'm not making any choices about the people already here.  You are the only one trying to make choices for what people should do.  I am making passive choices for the migrants but suggesting they be allowed to go where they need to go.   Once again, you demand the freedom to control other people and that is just not freedom.  Not allowing you to control other people does not mean I am making choices for you.

This topic boils down authority vs liberty once again.  I think people should be free to choose where they feel safe and you think you have a right to make choices for other people and send thousands of people back into a dangerous area where they clearly do not want to be.   I have no idea why you are trying to project your ideals onto me.  

Their lives are not more important than ours and that is a false dichotomy.  Its not "us or them".  We are fine.  I'm not sure why you are so scared of immigrants.  Have you ever met people from these places?

Also, you have the economics wrong.  I think its because you have an idea that we will be building programs and cities from the ground up for these people but the programs already exists.  The space already exists.  They will just be filling it.   "Whatever costs immigrants might present now will be "paid back" by overall economic growth that will lead to more tax revenue on average for the government and less demand for need-based benefit programs. "  

This isn't about the cartels.  The cartels have resources and already been crossing the border back and forth at will.  These people are coming to escape criminal activity.  

Uh, no. It is a law, a law passed by the representatives voted on by the people of this nation. They decided they wanted a border and wanted it enforced. I am not telling anyone anything except obey this law because it exists for good reason.

You are ABSOLUTELY making choices for the people of the United States. You are not only facilitating theft of their tax resources in the form of all the free healthcare, schooling, food benefits, etc, but putting the people at risk in various physical ways as well. Lets go over some of the risks of not enforcing the border between the US and Mexico.

1. Criminals. It is a fact there is more crime in Mexico, that means more criminals coming over the border and continuing their criminal ways here.

2. Drugs. Drugs like Fentanyl, which is so strong a piece the size of a grain of sand can kill you come across the border all the time in quantities large enough to kill millions.

3. Rape. Rape is much more common in Mexico than it is int he US. So much so to the point that women crossing over illegally in the hands of coyotes just EXPECT to be raped as part of the process. Then those rapists get here and keep raping.

4. Murder. Violence and murder are much more prevalent in Mexico than in the US. The murderers there come here and bring that mentality with them.

5. Disease. Communicable diseases are MUCH more prevalent in Mexico than in the US. Due to poor infrastructure, sanitation, and healthcare, serious diseases are much more rampant. Without proper screening those diseases come here and spread.

6. Theft of resources. In a lot of places school systems are completely over capacity and can barely keep up as property taxes rise to meet this increasing demand all as a direct result of illegal migrant children filling our schools. People are literally being stripped of their homes to pay for their education. This is just one example that can be multiplied across every entitlement program or public service the government offers, even voting!

7. Terrorism. What is the point of having the TSA fondle your balls at the airport if terrorists can just flood in thru Mexico?

There are so many more but these are just some of the basics. I look forward to your accusations of racism and heartlessness as you advocate the victimization of the people of the US in favor of hordes of migrants looking for handouts.

It is absolutely us or them. Much like your ideas of Socialism you imagine that resources are some how magically finite and we can just magically make it work. My economics are in line with reality, your economics are more in line with Huge Chavez, and it will have similar results. What about all the immigrants that worked so hard to get here legally? I guess fuck them too right?

The cartels come and go as they please as a DIRECT RESULT of the border not begin secured. They don't just traffic drugs either, they also traffic women and children for prostitution.

Here are some breakdowns of the economics which I am sure you will promptly ignore or rationalize away, but for everyone else....

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Households-Children

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-but-illegal-aliens-cost-the-u-s-plenty/


In summary your "they are adding to the economy" spiel is a delusion and simply superficial cover for your new Postmodernist Marxist shit hole formerly known as the USA.
6102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shoot The Shit About American Politics on: December 04, 2018, 05:47:35 PM


Ah, yes, this thread still exists.




You will also notice that is a smoke canister, not a CS gas canister as fired from a 40mm launcher which is the typical CS gas delivery mechanism.
6103  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DMAN76 - Giftcard scammer on: December 04, 2018, 09:45:14 AM
If the gift codes are already used, you can post them. We can all independently at least check that those were real.
6104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 04, 2018, 09:33:42 AM
The problem is not with classifying things but classifying things without any reasoning.  You just say everything is postmodernist (maybe it is?) but you give no reasoning for how its postmodernist or what is wrong with it in the particular context.  You say I contradict myself all the time but instead of pointing out the contradictions, you just say its "straight outta critical theory" and leave it at that.

And maybe you don't want to break down my positions.  Thats fine.  You still haven't answered any of my questions about your position in this thread.

"reasoning", as you define it is EXTREMELY subjective. You call it "reason" I call it "rationalization" and "sophistry". I don't say everything is Postmodernist. If you are tired of hearing me call you Postmodernist, stop spouting the tenets of Critical Theory constantly. I JUST EXPLAINED the meaning of this (AGAIN). I am very sorry your confirmation bias is so dominant you can't even retain words that cause cognitive dissonance, but the fact is I did explain it, why it is bad, and how you are doing it.
Trying to explain contradictions in the though of Communists TO Communists is about as effective as using logic to explain to a child why there is no monster under their bed. The best you can do is tell them there is no monster and move on. In your case if I explained to you every contradiction you made of yourself I would have time for nothing else, and you STILL would use your Postmodernist mind mush to excuse it away anyway. It is a bit like telling an alcoholic why it is bad to drink. Not going to do much.

I however explained all of my positions in detail, and explained why your positions are dangerous. I haven't answered your questions because they are retarded nonsense loaded questions. If you want to rephrase them in a less presumptuous way I would be happy to answer.


No I am actually arguing for the opposite of what you stated in bold.   Not only am I against funding a wall that would jeopardize the safety of these people, I am actually advocating for the abolishment of ICE which would save a lot of money.  It seems you are the one arguing we spend money to send these people back to very dangerous conditions.

It is irrelevant what you are arguing for, this will be the result. I could argue that jumping in a vat of radioactive waste will give you super powers, but if you do it you will likely just get super cancer.

Again, oh how magnanimous and generous you are! How big of you to use other peoples tax dollars to fund entitlement programs for these people! So generous!
What about the safety of the people ALREADY HERE? YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE FOR EVERYONE. All you are doing is handing out OTHER PEOPLES RESOURCES AND SAFETY so you can alleviate your own self loathing and guilt and feel like you are contributing. That is not generosity or kindness, that is malignant narcissism.

Getting rid of ICE will not save money because of the flood of people resulting from your retarded ideas that will then be sucking off the tit of the state. Then there is the question of terrorist infiltration using the open border, as well as gang, cartel, and other criminal activity. All of these things cost THIS NATION, not just money but LIVES. Who the fuck are you to decide their lives are more important than ours?


6105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [It's not real communism] or why socialism can still be an answer on: December 04, 2018, 09:09:47 AM
Socialism/Communism can not exist without Capitalism because it is parasitic to it. Once that funding runs out totalitarianism inevitably ensues.
6106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bald men discrimination on: December 03, 2018, 11:50:53 PM
I noticed this myself once back in college. It was a bunch of kids and like 1 or 2 adults. One was a middle aged gentleman who was bald. I forgot how the context came up but someone was reviewing one of the projects in front of the class and mentioned how she just didn't like bald men, found them creepy, etc and went on. This was all right in front of this balding guy like he didn't even exist too. I look at him like WTF, and he shoots me back a vindicated look like, yeah YEAH really WTF?

I think it boils down to male disposability. Unless you got a full wallet no one gives a shit if you live or die, let alone how your feelings might be hurt. Unless you are the alpha male you are going to be largely invisible.
6107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 03, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
Its not a valid response to just classify things as "postmodernist" but that is almost all you do.  Even if it was postmodernist, you haven't addressed any of the questions or facts put forward.  You haven't even explained how its postmodernist.  

Perhaps its because you are afraid of your own answers to the questions that have been put forward.  Perhaps answering the questions would force you into a contradiction.  

The irony of someone who is so paranoid about falling under authoritarian rule calling for someone be locked up for asking questions is golden.  I guess you are an authoritarian as long as you get to be the dictator.

Harriet Tubman's underground railroad was illegal, Nicholas Winton's smuggling of Jewish children during the Holocaust was illegal,  Jim crow sit ins were illegal.  Might is not right and sometimes the best thing to do is illegal and the law itself is unjust.  

Additionally, danger is measurable.  You don't just get to say my positions are dangerous when its clear that the most dangerous options would be for these people to stay stranded in northern Mexico or return home.  Even with the teargas and concentration camps, pushing the US is the option that gives them the best opportunity to achieve safety and that is what is driving this entire process.  

It is all I do when all you do is post relativist deconstructivist bullshit straight out of Critical Theory. "Postmodernist mind mush" isn't an insult, it is an observation of the fact that you repeatedly use the Hegelian dialectic to argue contradictory views of your ideology in order to create a relativist subjectivity that on a Sophistic level seems to be valid, but upon closer critical examination is nothing but 100% horse shit right out of your imagination.

You CONSTANTLY contradict yourself and you have the nerve to accuse me of being afraid of examining the truth because I might find conflict? Yeah, those loons being afraid of authoritarian rule! Who in their right mind would think active prevention of ideologies that spawn authoritarianism is worth while? Never in history has this ideology lead to genocide! Quite paranoid. Maybe instead we should go out and punch some Nazis?

I didn't call for you to be locked up. I was telling you regardless of how you justify your bullshit in your mind, you are still actively advocating for conditions that would destroy the nation, and as a result I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up in a cage over it if you are taking any actions in that direction.

There is a difference between civil disobedience and ignoring laws that endanger others. You wanna risk jail time to protest that is on you. You don't get to trade OTHER PEOPLE'S security for your cause. Who's safety? At what cost? Who pays that cost? You certainly fucking aren't but you have no problem putting that burden on everyone else right? It is very generous of you to spend other people's money and give away their safety. You are quite a saint. Just like Harriet Tubman.

6108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ban dihydrogen monoxide on: December 03, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
This is exactly the sort of thing people who fear socialism remind me of. 

"IT WAS USED BY HITLER"

All you have to do is ignore a hundred years of failure and millions of lives taken as a result of the ideology of Socialism and your analogy makes perfect sense!
6109  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Opinion needed for domain development on: December 03, 2018, 04:20:23 PM
Based on what you are telling me the domain name is certainly worth developing. I would focus less on what the domain is worth because that is largely arbitrary if it does not have a user base. Crypto doesn't need to be worked into everything. I would suggest starting out with one topic then if it works expanding out into a generalized travel site.
6110  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Amazon accepting Bitcoin - What can go wrong? on: December 03, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
The #1 reason Amazon is doing this is to tie addresses to names and faces.
6111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 03, 2018, 07:53:15 AM
No, the totalitarianism comes after you get control. Enforcing ones borders is one of the oldest recognized rights of a sovereign nation. This is the case because without controlling for this factor nations have the real potential to fall. Purposely attempting to collapse the nation with uncontrolled immigration is treason, not protest. It doesn't matter how ignorant you are of the reality of the results of your actions.
The problem with that is how do we figure out when to start recognizing these old rights of sovereign nations? Today? Last week? 2010? 2003? 2001? 1991? 1989? 1973? 1971? 1967? 1953? 1950? 1492?

Ah yes, the ever refreshing argument of the Socialist. We are just too advanced for those old stale ancient ways!

We aren't talking about trading women for goats here. Border controls are just as important as they ever were. The question is when did you stop recognizing these rights?
I've never thought about how borders are recognized because its just another make believe human construct that kills poor people but doesn't affect me at all.  I have border privilege until I try to enter a country where Americans are not automatically allowed.    I am not a government so I am asking this question from the perspective of my government.  I'm simply asking when should we start recognizing borders?  Since borders are old, do we go back to ancient borders?  I am not asking rhetorically, I am literally asking when you think we should have started recognizing borders because apparently if we don't start now, we won't have the same country and if we go back far enough, we won't have the same country either.  

Are you talking about restoring the original borders of this land?
https://native-land.ca/
It seems complicated but I'm not rejecting it because I have an open mind.  I'm just curious about how that would work because so many of them overlap.  

More postmodernist mind mush. You are an enemy of the nation and I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up in a cell. It doesn't really matter how you rationalize irresponsible, criminal, and dangerous activities, they are still irresponsible, criminal, and dangerous.
6112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism is destroying us. on: December 02, 2018, 09:26:52 PM
Where are you living? I invite you to live in Venezuela, a true socialist country to see how it's good. I dare you can't survive there. Wonder what's happening in Venezuela, read some news about it.

You do realize that there many forces at play when it comes to the case of Venezuela? And why don't you use the example of Cuba?...

Or NK?

NK is led by a dictator, so that argument does not hold.
Aside of that, I am sure that NK has less environmental impact than most capitalistic countries.

How many dictators came to power through Socialism/Communism?
That is the wrong question.  The question you should be asking is "How many countries switched from democracy to dictatorship through socialism?"

I'll help...

Tsarist autocracy--> Lenin
Cuban military junta--> Castro
Imperial Japanese occupation-->Kim il sung
Soviet occupation--> Ceaușescu

So not only is the authoritarianism separate from the socialism, it usually predates it. 

Its the same fucking question, just rephrased to be more friendly to your delusions about Socialism.
6113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: December 02, 2018, 09:17:39 PM
If you bothered reading what I posted, you would know they already got what they wanted.

So why are Republicans cheating in one inconsequential district in NC? Doesn't align with your grand plan of honeypotting Democrats into voter fraud if Republicans are the ones committing voter fraud.

And it doesn't align with your grand plan if aliens really control humanity. What the fuck is your point? What makes you think they are cheating? You are basically saying if I am wrong I will be wrong. Good show.
6114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 02, 2018, 09:15:16 PM
No, the totalitarianism comes after you get control. Enforcing ones borders is one of the oldest recognized rights of a sovereign nation. This is the case because without controlling for this factor nations have the real potential to fall. Purposely attempting to collapse the nation with uncontrolled immigration is treason, not protest. It doesn't matter how ignorant you are of the reality of the results of your actions.
The problem with that is how do we figure out when to start recognizing these old rights of sovereign nations? Today? Last week? 2010? 2003? 2001? 1991? 1989? 1973? 1971? 1967? 1953? 1950? 1492?

Ah yes, the ever refreshing argument of the Socialist. We are just too advanced for those old stale ancient ways!

We aren't talking about trading women for goats here. Border controls are just as important as they ever were. The question is when did you stop recognizing these rights?
6115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 02, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
I'm pretty sure you have the definition of totalitarianism completely backwards.  Unjust laws need to be broken and challenged constantly until they are moot.  This is called active protest and its been the most effective way for people to overcome totalitarian tendencies.

No, the totalitarianism comes after you get control. Enforcing ones borders is one of the oldest recognized rights of a sovereign nation. This is the case because without controlling for this factor nations have the real potential to fall. Purposely attempting to collapse the nation with uncontrolled immigration is treason, not protest. It doesn't matter how ignorant you are of the reality of the results of your actions.
6116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [It's not real communism] or why socialism can still be an answer on: December 02, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
Edit: which makes this thread not really interesting by the way... Except for your short question and my answer it's just ping pong between TECSHARE and me...

You are playing ping pong with yourself. I am holding you to the same standard that anyone else who wants to convince people of a point are held to. Just because you rationalize your responsibility to explain your position away doesn't mean I am irrational for repeating myself in this instance. You want the discussion to move forward? State a clear premise and support it with empirical data. ANY empirical data, like the rest of the educated world.
6117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [It's not real communism] or why socialism can still be an answer on: December 02, 2018, 12:14:21 PM
Monarchy, democracy, tyranny, oligarchy, communism... Everything could work, depending the people involved on these systems. In the end the problem are the people and not the systems themselves... That is why there are always positive examples about everything involving nordic countries, but when you apply the nordic politics in third world countries there isn't any guarantee they will work too, because the people.

Any organization can be corrupted, but some are a lot easier to corrupt than others. One of the main benefits of Capitalism is that it factors in human greed and exploits it to benefit the whole in most (but not every) circumstances, much like Bitcoin itself.
6118  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism is destroying us. on: December 02, 2018, 12:07:26 PM
Where are you living? I invite you to live in Venezuela, a true socialist country to see how it's good. I dare you can't survive there. Wonder what's happening in Venezuela, read some news about it.

You do realize that there many forces at play when it comes to the case of Venezuela? And why don't you use the example of Cuba?...

Or NK?

NK is led by a dictator, so that argument does not hold.
Aside of that, I am sure that NK has less environmental impact than most capitalistic countries.

How many dictators came to power through Socialism/Communism?
6119  Other / Off-topic / Re: Need some schooling advice on: December 02, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Start taking some business courses at local community college. High schools usually have programs that let you take certain college courses for high school and college credit. Even if you don't pursue a degree , learning about business administration would be useful. Talk to your counselor.

You will get double credits, and you will get a lot more free time as you will have free periods during the school day and will not have class at the college every day. Try to schedule these blocks at the start or the end of the day so you can either show up late or leave early daily. I would however recommend you finish high school in the traditional form while also using this method to free up some time.
6120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: December 02, 2018, 11:54:25 AM
Here is one of those districts where the Republicans are trying very hard to hand the victory over to Democrats. Or maybe they're just cheating. Can't tell.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article222363510.html

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In seven of the eight counties in the 9th District, for example, McCready won a lopsided majority of the mailed-in absentee ballots. But not in Bladen County. There, Republican Mark Harris won 61 percent even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19 percent of the county’s accepted absentee ballots.

Unaffiliated voters accounted for 39 percent. Bitzer said Harris’ margin “could potentially come from all those unaffiliated voters.”

“But to have each and every one of those unaffiliated voters vote Republican, that’s pretty astonishing,” he added. “If that’s the case, there’s a very concerted effort to use that method to one candidate’s advantage. . . . But at that level there’s something else beyond a concerted effort that could be at work.”

If you bothered reading what I posted, you would know they already got what they wanted.
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