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The word/excel and files I have do not contain virus. Im concerned if i have malware, then it could be infected.
Kaspersky scanned my computer and it found nothing. But windows scan is my concern here when it found things.
I use one of the popular password managers out there. Yes i know storing seeds there is not good idea. I know that now. I have a hardware wallet. My hardware wallet seed is not stored there though. But my other seeds are.
So concern is if I use my computer as normal, well I need to log into my password manager and copy/paste any passwords for sites/banking/email etc. Does that make sense?
That is why I want to know if there is a way to confirm I do not have any type of malware on my laptop... if there is a way to find this out.
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I have a password manager with my seeds there. I have lot of documents like word/excel there. The issue though is some of these are encrypted. So only way to open these would be to enter my encryption password. Thoughts on that?
I have software wallets in my computer that if you open it.. you need to enter the password. So I have not done that yet.
So based on that, what are my options? My concern is entering my password to the password manager... which if I do that.. then my passwords and seed would be exposed. The thing though is I did use another windows laptop and entered my seed into another computer and did saw my coins were still there for that coin though. That would mean my seed was not seed for that coin. So thoughts on that?
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Okay I will clean reinstall it. But before I do this, what do you recommend I do first?
Again my issue is I have lot of files that I need to copy/paste to an external hard drive. How do I know these files are not infected? Again Kaspersky total scanned my entire laptop and it found nothing. I ask this because say after I do a clean reinstall, then when I transfer these external files back, how I know for sure they aren't infected before I transfer these files?
Then with all the programs I have installed... just write down every single program name I have installed so I install it again after I do the clean reinstall right?
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My issue is this. All the files that I have on my computer... im talking about word/excel and files... I'm concerned if I right now transfer it to an external hard drive... even after I clean reinstall my laptop... how do i know none of those files I have is infected then?
Yes you are correct I can just write down every single program I downloaded on my computer and then download them later on. But I have so many things in those programs that I have to start over which I"m not a fan of. But I get your point here.
The big issue is... is there a way to make sure the files I have on my computer is clean before I transfer these files back to a clean reinstall laptop?
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I have to claim my bitcoin sv and btg soon. I do have a wallet where I could send the bitcoin sv to. Also seem like i could see the btg to the nano ledger.
Now has anyone done this recently?
Also has anyone here claimed bitcoin private and diamond?
HCP, you say you don't deal with these crapcoins. But if you just want to claim it and immediately sell it, what is wrong with that? Such as sell it for usd or btc and delete the wallets after that. Is there a reason you don't do that?
Thing is i want to claim all the bitcoin forks as the only way I claimed was the bitcoin cash.
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Okay so I did the kaspersky scans... all of them... full scan, vulnerability scan and background scan. It found 0 threats. So what are your thoughts on this? From what I read, kaspersky total is one of the best virus programs out there.
So does this mean most likely I do not have any malware/trojan/keylogger then? So windows defender had removed it earlier?
Yea the thing is if I had a recent macrium reflect image backup... I was told a while back this is when you do a backup of my your entire hard drive and copy it to an external hard drive... and basically whenever you want to do a clean reinstall, you do that... then when you copy from this backup image in the external hard drive, it will make your cleaned laptop look exactly the same as how it was when you saved it. But I did not do this. Thus I don't want to clean reinstall because if I do, then I have to download all the programs again etc. But the main issue is lot of my files are not transferred from it yet. And if I transfer it... I risk it being infected right? However, kaspersky did not find anything.
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So I did the kaspersky scans... all of them... full scan, vulnerability scan and background scan. It found 0 threats. So what are your thoughts on this? From what I read, kaspersky total is one of the best virus programs out there.
So does this mean most likely I do not have any malware/trojan/keylogger then? So windows defender had removed it earlier?
Yea the thing is if I had a recent macrium reflect image backup... I was told a while back this is when you do a backup of my your entire hard drive and copy it to an external hard drive... and basically whenever you want to do a clean reinstall, you do that... then when you copy from this backup image in the external hard drive, it will make your cleaned laptop look exactly the same as how it was when you saved it. But I did not do this. Thus I don't want to clean reinstall because if I do, then I have to download all the programs again etc. But the main issue is lot of my files are not transferred from it yet. And if I transfer it... I risk it being infected right? However, kaspersky did not find anything.
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I downloaded kaspersky total and going to scan my computer now. Someone mentioned this is the best antivirus that could find malware/trojan and keylogger. So if it finds things and removes it, it still isn't safe? I read kaspersky can find like 99% of keyloggers.
I have files I want to transfer from this computer to external hard drive. Now If I made a complete backup of my computer not long ago, obviously this wouldn't be a big issue etc.
Also there is something I forgot to mention but not sure if it is that important. I mentioned when I clicked on the link, my password manager was opened during that time. Then I closed it. I am actually still logged into my emails on my chrome browser during this time. So if I visit the email site now, well it goes straight to my email. So if my computer was compromised, wouldn't they be able to send emails and things like that already? However, if you want to change your email password, they need the current password so unless I type it in again, they don't have it?
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I downloaded kaspersky total and going to scan my computer now. Someone mentioned this is the best antivirus that could find malware/trojan and keylogger. So if it finds things and removes it, it still isn't safe? I read kaspersky can find like 99% of keyloggers.
The files I want to transfer from the laptop are microsoft word/excel files. But also some videos and pictures as well.
Also there is something I forgot to mention but not sure if it is that important. I mentioned when I clicked on the link, my password manager was opened during that time. Then I closed it. I am actually still logged into my emails on my chrome browser during this time. So if I visit the email site now, well it goes straight to my email. So if my computer was compromised, wouldn't they be able to send emails and things like that already? However, if you want to change your email password, they need the current password so unless I type it in again, they don't have it?
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Many of the other altcoins I have is not supported by nano ledger. That is why I don't have it all transferred there. Previously they were in an exchange and then I downloaded software wallets for it. I do not do trading with these crapcoins. I basically bought them years ago and held them in an exchange or wallet etc. I am not doing any quick trading of any sort.
The reason why I use windows is because that is all I ever used. Other thing is some programs I use... are not compatible with windows. So using linux or mac won't work for me.
Someone else suggested what I can do is transfer all my files from the possibly compromised laptop to an external hard drive or the cloud. Then wipe my windows clean and do a clean reinstall. Then when using the new computer scan all those files in a non administrative account and then check to see if there is any malware before copying the files to the new computer. Is there any issue with this? Again I know the easiest thing to do is just clean reinstall my laptop, but I have files there I want to keep etc. But is it risky transferring those files? I know had i done a macrieum reflect backup, then I wouldn't had these issues etc.
The other option is downloading kaspersky total or bitdefender and scanning the machine to see what it finds and then remove those threats. And maybe continue using it? Again I am just stumped on what to do because I don't have my full backups.
The big issue here is I have seed stored in my password manager, so if I open it up, if keylogger there, then I'm screwed?
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How in the world would I know which addresses hold coins? My btc was stored in electrum at the time all these forks occurred. Then years later I downloaded electroncash and typed in my electrum seed and then BCH showed up there... then I moved it to the nano ledger.
So I have to open electrum up then and look at all the addresses btc was in around the time? This is what I don't understand with this.
So there is no current step by step guide on this that I could follow that is posted somwhere? There is no youtube video on this.
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I have a spare clean computer right now do download wallets for the hard forks.
Where should I begin? Again I know there is bitcoin sv, gold, and also diamond/private. I want to obviously start with SV and then gold.
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I didn't download any files but my virus scanner detected a ton of threats on it. That is the issue here.
My issue is the other things I do on my computer, I use windows. Thats why i dont have OS or linux.
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Then i did virus scan on windows scan and it found lot of threats. Then how in the world do you protect yourself when googling things then? I mean are you suppose to inspect every single site you want to visit? So imagine you looking for cooking recipes and found a bunch of sites... you have to make sure its a cooking recipe site? I don't understand why you've made it such a big deal. A computer that does not have a firewall protection is more vulnerable to be compromised. Just turn on your anti-virus, it will detect malicious sites and files. It's not recommended to keep bitcoins in such computer that connects to the internet either way. You said you have a hardware wallet? What stops you from using it? I am pretty sure my windows defender had firewall protection on. My windows defender and malwarebyte was on the entire time when I clicked on the link. Again, the windows scan detected tons of threats when I did a scan right after I clicked on the link. My concern here is I stored seed in the password manager in the computer. So if it could read my seeds from my password manager, that is not good. I have a hardware wallet. But some of my coins are not compatible with the hardware wallet. So I have those software wallets on the computer. There isn't an option for some of the coins I have because you can only use software wallets for it. But the issue is i wrote the seed down in the password manager.
How you do protect yourself in these situations? Don't use GoogleThis is a big one for me. When I stopped using Google, it delivered better results than the alternatives, but I still switched for privacy reasons. However, recently I sat at another person's PC, which used Google by default and man, those results are hideous. Not only are the first few results ads; but also visually pretty well disguised. And lots of the actual results are totally trash and obviously paid to get those high rankings. While not actually being labelled as ads at all! I can see how it's easy to misclick on some of those when looking for innocent stuff. However - and I'm making an assumption here - it also depends what you're searching for. While this should all be common sense, obviously when looking for example for cracked software and other kinds of piracy, the probability is higher that someone is going to try to grab your money another way. I sincerely doubt you will get scammer links when sincerely looking just for recipes or technical questions online. Of course I can only judge this as someone using DuckDuckGo and Startpage; it's possible that Google will show you scam links in top positions when looking for recipes. But on the engines I use, I would almost guarantee the results are clean. Also, after a while on the net, you should already see from the URL if it's something familiar, normal-looking or if it looks fishy. Like, the actual domain name, for instance. Above all search results (also in Google; just checked via Incognito window), you see it; and you also see the whole link when hovering. Long story short: this should all be considered standard, basic precautions when surfing the web; but I guess some people don't want to bother. Then it's on them. I also agree that a few extensions like uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere are adviseable; some scammer sites don't get a certificate (or don't want to - since usually proof of ID is needed) and Origin removes some scammy shit like ads on Google by default, I think. Depends on your lists. Of course also great for privacy due to tracker blocking, but that's another story. You said you have a hardware wallet? What stops you from using it?
He already said that he invests heavily in shitcoins so shitty that Ledger doesn't even have apps for them in their list of 1300+ coins. It also seems like he just has a ton of different coins and I just discovered the other day that you can basically just install a handful of coins onto a Ledger Nano S, even if it 'supports' hundreds. It's totally misleading that Ledger writes on their websites how Nano S is supporting 1100+ coins and app to 6 apps installed on your device, but in reality you can't install more than 2 or 3 apps.
Yes i do have a nano ledger. The issue is lot of the coins i have and the seeds, they do not support the coin. If they did, i would transfer every single coin of mine that has a seed phrase into nano ledger.
To be honest, if you're dabbling with these kinds of coins; while it's not my topic of interest, from what I know, these are used as very-short-term investments. Meaning, you buy a bunch, if they skyrocket, you insta-sell and then go to the next one. So, while I'm super duper pro-cold storage, hardware wallets, and all that; it may be financially smarter to keep them on an exchange so you can sell quicker. It also seems to me that a (reputable!!!) exchange might even be a safer custodian of those coins than someone keeping the seeds in the password manager. Just an idea. I had no idea using google is bad. I been using it for years. Yes i heard lot of scammer sites appear on google with those ads. So which search is the best to use then? You say duckduckgo and startpage. So are these the best two? I always used google because it was simple and clean looking site etc. Yea its very easy to misclick stuff on google. Well if you look for an answer to a technical question... how would google not post a bad site at the top? Imagine say you want to find a link to an actual copy of windows from microsoft or a driver and then find it but it was some scammer getting that link to the top of google. Then aren't you screwed when you search for it and click on it? Yes the food recipe thing i mentioned... im sayin surely its possible for someone to post something like that? Imagine looking for food recipe and then it opens up to be an ad for crypto and it might be malware etc. What do you mean check incognito model on google the link.. you will see. Can you explain what you mean by this exactly? You say
uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere are adviseableSo download both of these programs into your browser then? So what about adblock plus? That is what i use for chrome and thought that is good for it. So the ideal setup is which web browser? And having both of those two things you mentioned? But that will protect you from almost everything? |
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How you do protect yourself in these situations? Don't use Windows. Keep your Linux OS and browser software up to date. Don't use Chrome. Don't use Google since they happily accept money from scammers and criminals to promote their ads. If you aren't using Tor, then use Firefox and install uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everywhere, and NoScript. Don't browse for random things on the same computer you are using to secure your bitcoin. Don't download random files. It wasn't even a link, it was an answer to a question on google where i thought it would just open up an answer,,, the link opened up. Then i did virus scan on windows scan and it found lot of threats. Lots of threats? It sounds like your machine has been infected for a while and you were just unaware up until now. Well the reason I use windows is because many programs I use... use windows. A while back I considered buying a macbook laptop even though its expensive but then I found out lot of programs I would use is not compatible with mac. Isn't that an even bigger issue with linux? I had no idea chrome was not recommended. Years ago I used firefox and then switched to chrome. I heard of Tor... but never used it because I don't know anything about it. I never even heard of Ublock origin. The only thing i heard of is adblock plus which is what I use with chrome. I normally do not use the same computer i store my coins and web browse. I have a chromebook for that. But issue here is I was web browsing... and that link opened up from google on my computer. That has never happened before when you check an answer to a question. I did not download any random files ever on my computer. I only visited the site. So which is the best browser you recommend then? I heard of brave and microsoft edge. But make sure you use ublock origin with it? Is it better than adblock plus? The https everywhere and no script... i never heard of this. So these two programs would prevent any malware on the site you visit? The thing is this laptop of mine still will be my main laptop whether I clean reinstall or not. So the best suggestion is just clean reinstall it? So don't open up any files up? Is entering my password manager password a very bad thing to do? But what if I moved all my coins and changed my passwords for the important things? So do you recommend kaspersky total or bitdefender and it checking for everything and see where I can go from there? I know the safest thing is just clean reinstall it... but my issue is I didn't make backup of it. I do have some files transferred to a usb a while back. |
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Bob. So let say you were googling things such as how to clean your computer or download files you need. Or it could be something as wanting to find a recipe for cooking. You go on google and look at links for cooking recipes etc. Then when you click on a link that seems to get you to a recipe on google, then it gets you to a bad link.
How you do protect yourself in these situations? You say by not clicking dumb things. Well with my windows laptop, I am extremely careful with it throughout the years. Only once or twice did I click on a link like that. Last time it was through a website that is legit so I wasn't that concerned because windows defender didn't find anything.
The people that say don't click random links. Of course i understand that. Again im very careful with this normally until this time. It wasn't even a link, it was an answer to a question on google where i thought it would just open up an answer,,, the link opened up. Then i did virus scan on windows scan and it found lot of threats. Then how in the world do you protect yourself when googling things then? I mean are you suppose to inspect every single site you want to visit? So imagine you looking for cooking recipes and found a bunch of sites... you have to make sure its a cooking recipe site? So would kasperky or bitdefender alert you when you click on it that its a dangerous site and then you can go back? This is getting beyond ridiculous because how can anyone web browse at all if things are like this. Again im extremely careful when web browsing and downloading things. This site just opened up when I thought all it does was give an answer to a question.
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Well can i download kaspersky now and scan everything to remove everything if its possible? That way i don't need to clean reinstall my computer?
Of course you can. But as mentioned earlier, no antivirus software is 100% effective. If you suspect a malware infection, a clean reinstall of your Operating System is probably the safest solution. Antiviruses are good for prevention, though. My issue is I didn't back up a ton of files on my laptop. I also never did a backup of it as in that backup image of windows. Because if I had that, I know I could just clean reinstall and have it like how it was. So for example some files I do have saved on a flash drive. Also I remember there was an option in windows that lets you go back before there were issues. Like a restore point where it could go back a month or whenever. Does windows do that for you periodically or you have to do this yourself? But if you go back to a restore point, this would not work if I was infected... correct? Well if i use kaspersky and scan and it removes everything, would it be safe to continue using it like normal for a few days to see if i have any issue? |
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What do you mean check block explorer? I do not know what you mean by that. I only know if you mean put your btc address or some other coin address in it to see the history of the transactions that address has made?
So what am I suppose to do then? When you say lack of replay protection is serious... I don't know what that means exactly but I know that isn't good for claiming the bitcoin SV.
The thing is I want to claim my bitcoin sv and gold and any other forks like diamond/private as soon as possible. But now you and others here say its not ask easy or its risky. So I don't know what to do now. Can anyone here who claimed bitcoin SV and gold and even private/diamond recently tell me how to do it? There is no video on youtube to do this either etc.
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How do you know if I didn't had anything downloaded into my computer? I read its possible just by going to the site without doing anything. I read examples of this and someone said that happened to them and their coins in their software wallet got taken.
Well can i download kaspersky now and scan everything to remove everything if its possible? That way i don't need to clean reinstall my computer?
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Okay but has anyone here done so recently? I know these new wallets have new updates every so often.
So when i do this, i don't want an issue where i'm suddenly stuck and not sure what to click on etc.
But it should just display my Bitcoin SV like how BCH just appeared on electroncash after typing in my electrum seed right?
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