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661  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: March 06, 2019, 10:26:50 AM
la justification d'israël, c'est la torah (תּוֹרָה) du rabin et le fusil du colon.

Donc la justification d'Israël c'est un livre religieux et la violence?

La base d'Israël selon toi c'est donc le fanatisme (parce que vivre littéralement selon un texte débile de plus de 2000 ans c'est du fanatisme) et la guerre.

Je me demande bien pourquoi des gens sont anti sionistes dis donc xD

si tu n'es pas d'accord avec ça et que tu trouves qu'il y a des tords à redresser, prend ton courage à deux mains et va là bas leur expliquer. la facilité et la lâcheté, c'est la diarrhée verbale sur internet.

Stupide au possible. Qu'est-ce que tu veux donc que j'aille faire là bas exactement? xD

Je pense qu'il y a aussi beaucoup de gens qui sont antisionistes au départ style extrême-gauche et qui finissent par devenir antisémites. Malheureusement les organisations communautaires juives entretiennent ce phénomène en stigmatisant ces gens-là. L'exclusion de la LFI de la marche contre l'antisémitisme (contre l'avis de la famille de la victime) est un exemple frappant. Leur combat contre les campagnes BDS(boycott des produits provenant d'Israël) en est un autre.

En même temps quand tu vois les réactions de gens comme Oscar2000 c'est difficile de ne pas effectivement tendre vers l'antisémitisme.

Je ne comprends pas ce comportement qui consiste à d'un côté mettre le "peuple juif" sur un piédestal de peuple élu et grande victime ne devant subir aucun affront, et de l'autre ces horribles antisémites qui osent dire quoique ce soit sur le peuple élu.

C'est un cercle vicieux, les deux s'entretiennent. L'antisémitisme accentue le côté communautaire et sur la défensive du "peuple juif" (le simple fait qu'on dise "peuple juif" prouve bien qu'il y a un problème d'ailleurs), ce qui provoque plus d'antisémitisme.

Honnêtement en plus je ne vois pas comment trouver une solution à ça. Pour moi les juifs et l'antisémitisme c'est juste un impondérable, on aura toujours l'un tant qu'on aura l'autre. Une solution ça serait l'ouverture du "peuple juif" m'enfin vu la position du rabbinat orthodoxe sur la question c'est pas pour demain.
662  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: March 06, 2019, 09:27:49 AM
Pas pareil sur le papier mais arrêtons l'hypocrisie. 99,99% de ceux qui brandissent l'anti-sionisme comme étendard sont antisémites et se cachent derrière leur rhétorique moisie.

Mouais ou pas hein...

Jsuis désolé mais être anti-sioniste c'est pas être antisémite...

Anti-sioniste: trouver que la création arbitraire d'Israël par la société des nations est complètement abusée et que les actions du pays sont très discutables.
Antisémite: trouver que les juifs sont une sous race et qu'il vaudrait mieux s'en débarrasser

Y a quand même un monde entre les deux...

Quelqu'un était a paris ce weekend ?
J'ai lu 4 000 manifestant  a paris (selon police, et 40 000 toute la France) ce qui fais 20% de moins que la semaine dernière.
Qu'en est-il du ressenti sur place ?

Faut comprendre que les parisiens en ont juste plus rien à foutre depuis facilement 2 mois. Les gens directement touchés par les manifestations représentent juste 0.1% de la population, sont tous très aisés (parce que les manifs sont dans des coins où le mètre carré est aux alentours des 20k€) et commencent à avoir l'habitude.

Pour le reste ça veut juste dire que le samedi y a une ou deux stations de métro fermées... Rien de méchant.
663  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: March 05, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
ces jaunes ne sont que des antisémites?

Je ne vois même pas de quoi tu parles...
664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Help with serious porn addiction in society / especially incest porn on: March 01, 2019, 09:20:38 AM
In many (most) places incest is illegal, hence "incest porn" if actually played out by family members would be illegal. Hence it's likely mostly fake.

Hmmm... I don't think so.

Incest is nearly never illegal. It's simply marriage that is illegal.
But you can fuck whoever you want as long as they're able to consent (legal age and mental health)
665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's talk about that new abortion law... on: March 01, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
Children under 1 are not human

What is not human is not entitled to human rights by definition.


You seem to believe in a completely binary world...

Are you aware that midles exist? I stand my claim saying children under 1 are not humans or that you need a different word to designate them as they are still to developp anything that would make them different from a puppy.

But not being fully human doesn't mean you have no right.

You seem to believe that what you think is morally right but please demonstrate so.

Considering a 2 months old child as a human being is stupid. A 3 year old dog is closer to a human than a 2 month old child in terms of intelligence, skills, affection, cognitive maturity... Of course it doesn't mean that the 2 month old child isn't extremely important as it has the potential. But that's just potential.

And stating this isn't a crime or morally wrong whatever you and your religious clan say.
666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: February 28, 2019, 11:00:37 AM
If there is no lazyness then how to explain the gazillion public debt which we're observing now?
After that I would like to see your ideas why the USSR government borrowed a ton of money from the central bank, while experts were opposing such practice and claimed that it leads to cataclysmic collapse.

Greed of the people currently in power and different interest from yours. Why would the public debt be a problem for anyone but the public? Governments have no reason to reduce this debt that allows them to make harder policies, steer taxes to there pockets and increase the influence of their businesses.
Just give me a reason for them to NOT increase the debt.

USSR mismanagement is far too wide to give a precise answer here, what period do you talk about?
667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bernie or Bust 2020 on: February 28, 2019, 09:07:48 AM

Effectively you can't get a college degree in Greece because every year or two the teachers strike.


Yeah exactly.

And did you know that 10% of French die every week because of the strikes too?

I mean as it seems you like to just fabricate shit like a buzzfeed writer why not go even further?
668  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: February 28, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
Nope, the lazyness is real. Just think about that: why bother doing anything when you can borrow some trillion from the central bank.
Two systems with different agenda but plagued by the same practice.

This is SO ABSURD and basically stupid that I can't really see what to answer.
It's like a child saying "The sky is blue so that birds can swim inside". I mean it's wrong on so many levels you can hardly explain him.

Lazyness means not wanting to actually do anything. Not wanting to work in the general and broad sense of the term.

You do understand that people in USSR weren't especially lazy and that people currently abusing the capitalistic system or the people trying to survive in it aren't especially lazy neither?
669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Help with serious porn addiction in society / especially incest porn on: February 28, 2019, 09:01:52 AM
Why the hell would porn be a problem? And why would incest porn be a bigger one?

I mean I understand easily concerns about underage porn (even though fictional ones are debatable) but incest porn only stage consensual adults... Why the hell would that be a problem? Can't you just let adults do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone?

Incestual reproduction can be a problem (that mainly solves itself), but incestual sex is the concern of the ones doing it and that's all.
670  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: February 27, 2019, 09:11:46 AM
Socialism doesn't work, because people are lazy and abusing the system.
Capitalism doesn't work, because people are lazy and abusing the system.

You understand that lazyness has nothing to do with both systems?

Communism didn't fail because people were lazy, it failed because it became a dictatorship. Capitalism isn't failing because people are lazy, it is failing because in his very basic idea it will always lead to an increase of inequality. And when growth is no longer there to compensate those inequalities, it becomes pure theft.

Lazyness is a simplistic stupid myth of the typical old right winger trying to claim that young people and hippies are lazy assholes...
671  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MMT: The US government does NOT have to add taxes to add spending on: February 27, 2019, 09:09:06 AM
Stop answering to TECSHARE dude, he's just a troll. ignore is your friend here trust me.

Even when you finally manage to get rid of his bad faith and his stupidity, he'll just end denying facts without any reason just because they don't suit him. You can bring 5 different sources all giving the same thing and no you're still wrong, even though he has nothing to oppose you in any way xD

Could Marxism exist or be even conceived without fiat money?

Could Marxism exist when dominant currency was crypto non-governmental?

I don't see the link between the two, care to elaborate?

Marxism is absolutely not dependant on fiat money. Which system is more dependant on fiat and banks? Current system or Marxist system?
672  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shouldn't the goal be no work on: February 27, 2019, 09:01:20 AM
Productivity continues to increase and we will see even greater improvements as technology gets even better.  Shouldn't the end goal be for humans to work less?  

yep but that can't be done under a capitalistic system.

The very basis of capitalism is NOT the productivity but the capital productivity.
So what incentive could the capitalists have to reduce the amount of worl on a global scale? Isn't it better to abuse this productivity by telling everyone "hey, there are less jobs now. You gotta decrease the salaries and the workers protections otherwise I won't give you this job".

And that's what happens.
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674  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: February 22, 2019, 10:39:33 AM

 Cheesy Et tu m'expliques comment prendre cet argent sans que cela fasse fuir les riches, investisseurs, multinational etc. ?


Voilà donc déjà ça n'a plus rien à voir avec ce que tu as dit au départ:

De toute façon en France il n'y a plus d'argent nul part, alors vous pouvez bien manifester encore pendant des années si cela vous chante, mais cela ne changera rien à notre situation.


Puisque tu disais qu'il n'y en avait plus nul part...

Ensuite non, je refuse de discuter avec un troll comme toi vu que tu vas encore esquiver et glisser sur un sujet différent plutôt que d'avancer dans le débat. Comme tu viens justement de le faire d'ailleurs.

Par contre ça ne m'empêche pas de juste donner les faits qui te contredisent quand tu dis des énormités pareil.
675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 22, 2019, 10:02:16 AM

Millenials, grew up in abundance, have not studied basic economics, become easy pray for socialists...


Funny how so many people simply say "you have not studies basic economics" as the best argument against left while... It's simply not true.

I don't have a major in economics but I did study macro and micro economic for about 3 years as a secondary learning. I'm still socialist. I know tons of people in the same case.

Did you learn a bit of economics? Have you read Smith? Haven't you been pissed at the fact that all the wonderful theories still rulling current economy are all based on completely stupid assumptions like "equality of knowledge" or "perfect competition" or even "rationnal behaviour" which are all completely crazy assumptions?
676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 21, 2019, 01:02:45 PM
Her Hindu religion would definitely harm her in the general election,

This one line is enough to rule her out from this race.

Yeah isn't the president supposed to swear on the Bible?

Anyway with USA being the most stupidly biggotic country in Western world it seems impossible that a non Christian is elected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_United_States

60% of Americans in a Church congregation Oo
crazy.
677  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: February 21, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
De toute façon en France il n'y a plus d'argent nul part, alors vous pouvez bien manifester encore pendant des années si cela vous chante, mais cela ne changera rien à notre situation.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Produit_int%C3%A9rieur_brut_de_la_France

2018:   2 282,8 milliards d'euros

Plus d'argent nul part vraiment?

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_pays_par_PIB_(PPA)_par_habitant

29ème pays au monde en termes de PIB par habitants. On est pas les plus riches certes mais il me semble qu'il y a de la marge...
678  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: February 21, 2019, 09:48:39 AM

Non mais sérieusement c'est génial! Ca vous donne pas envie de ressortir la guillotine ça? Oo
679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California attempts to solve student housing crisis with-- students in cars? on: February 21, 2019, 09:39:52 AM

So now you are against private colleges?
Not sure private colleges mean what I think it means... I know that "private schools" in England aren't what I call private school in France  Huh

Let's same I'm 100% against any educational institution owned by private individuals yup.
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Except for a select few situations, I'm unable to connect any dots between capitalism and colleges. You are showing complete ignorance of how these systems work in the West.

Ok I'll break it down for you:
With private schooling, ability to enter a school depends first on your ability to afford this school. Hence it depends on your parents wealth which is not related to your skills and abilities at all. Hence in private schooling, next generation receives an education depending not on their abilities but on unrelated factors (wealth).

It means that in the end, private schooling is not efficient in a meritocratic aspect and will produce a generation where education is not given towards the best able but the more wealthy.

If you don't see the link between capitalism and the choice for a private school to take a rich bad student rather than a good poor student, I can't really do anything for you.

And this is to add towards the fact that without help from the state poor people won't even be able to afford the cost of being a student (food, house, transports...).
680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 21, 2019, 09:33:40 AM
Move to Cuba

Exactly what I said.
Cuba is communist not socialist.
Know the difference.

Replace all your "socialism" by "communism" and I would fairly agree with you.
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