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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 02, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
In the second half, Bayern Munich had a simple game plan. Attack and keep attacking until you score enough goals to win the match. In the end, Bayern Munich was able to win the match by 2-1. This keeps them at the top of the scoreboard right after Bayern Leverkusen.
At the end, Bayern Munich won over Gladbach and keep compete as Bundesliga teams with winning three matches with Bayern Leverkusen, not easy for Bayern Munich against Gladbach because have conceded early and late goals from Mathys Tel success help Bayern Munich with three points achievement. Leverkusen keep lead top standing awhile because they have more goals productivity than Bayern Munich, last three matches Leverkusen success scored 11 goals and bayern Munich scored 9 goals. Harry Kane not scoring goals in this match against Gladbach and I think he needs consistency scoring goals if want get chance become top scorer in Bundesliga.


Bayern Munich always struggled when they played against Borussia,especially when they played in an away game. But finally they broke them in the second half and broke the bad luck against them. Bayern with this win continues to fight hard with Leverkusen and i think these two teams will fight really hard for the title.

It was about time for Bayern Munich to strike back against them as they couldn't win both of their Bundesliga games last season. They actually lost one game and tied one game.

But Gladbach was in trouble and I thought with Harry Kane now being fully integrated into their team that they would present us with a more dominant performance than that. I am not talking about control as in ball possession. They should really try to improve their conversion rate. They have shots and all of that, but where are those times when they won several games in a row with many goals and yet it was again close towards the end. They need this lucky punch too often. It shouldn't be that way as a top team.
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 02, 2023, 08:33:14 PM
Barcelona can be considered as his last chance. Once he cannot show good performance and im sure xavi will put him on the bench till the end of season. Felix's performance was always disappointed. How can atletico madrid valued him 100 millions.
Sometimes the club was just giving non sense price without even knowing how good the quality of player owned by the club. I think that he will be also failed in barcelona.
he can't ne a good partner for lewandowski. Lewandowski was just requestion barcelona to recruit a new attacker and laporta has recruited felix as a solution for the club.
Trues, many clubs offering bid with nonsense price without seeing their players performance last season, I don't see any special performance from João Félix with Atletico Madrid and this season he still won't play any games yet. But Barcelona make bad speculation loaning their player Ansu Fati and give opportunities for João Félix to replace winger position leaving by Ansu Fati.

Robert Lewandowski need new attacker for Barcelona current last two games still not quit well performance, will João Félix based on their expected and have good performance with Barcelona? its difference games play between Atletico Madrid and Barcelona for João Félix need more adapting again if want get success as loan player.

But there is no way that Joao Felix could replace Robert Lewandowski no matter how old the Polish striker already is. Lewandowski is agile and robust and usually never injured. He is amazing with the ball and it's tough to take it away from him. Joao Felix is a different player from top to bottom. He doesn't have this physical resilience and he is also not someone who has a good feeling for unexpected situations, or the anticipation of a ball going to a place that nobody else expects it to go to.

I am also not impressed by what Lewandowski has done so far, but if the aim of Barcelona is to get Joao Felix in order to let him play as a center forward, then that would be a bad plan, but I think that they will put him on the left wing with some proximity to the center. But I don't believe that he will soon be playing every game. He is more of a backup.
663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 02, 2023, 08:13:53 PM
I think PSG will win the League One title this year as well But securing this title will not achieve much PSG should aim for the Champions League.

PSG is the most favorite team for the title in Ligue 1 this season. Even Taru is not certain that PSG will win the title. Due to this, their performance cannot be said to be stable till now. They drew the first two of the three matches and won the third. PSG's performance has been erratic. Especially their attacking performance is still weak. If the attack is not strong, PSG's chances of winning the title will decrease.

PSG's main rivals for the title this season will be Marseille and Monaco. And the performance of these two teams is quite good. Marseille have won two and drawn two of their 4 matches. Monaco, on the other hand, have won two out of three matches, and will win today's match as well. PSG are now eighth in the table. Topping the table won't be easy for PSG.

It is probably more about the persistence of their contenders than about the performance of PSG, because I don't think that PSG will hit the floor at full speed and lose every second game or something. In a bad season they still will win enough points to win the title in Ligue 1, unless there is one team that can really take the competition to the next level and this is what it will come down to.

You can already see that there is no single team thus far that could manage to win the first four games. This gives PSG already some room to breath and that is the problem if PSG is supposed to be beaten. Despite their relatively bad start they can win one win be in second position and nobody would really complain because once they solve some of their problems, they can hardly be stopped again. It needs a team that exploits PSG's weak times.
664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 01, 2023, 09:32:29 PM

The newcomers in the Premier League are clearly suffering with Sheffield and Luton losing their games and they need to change their posture,meaning that they should understand that they are not playing in Championship anymore and that they should change tactics.

On the other hand West Ham is doing pretty well as they are the winners of Europa Conference League which was a great achievement for them last season,they are continuing where they left off and they are doing it in style in this beginning of the Premier League while soon we will see them in the group stages again of Conference League in Europe.

If it was that easy I think they would have changed their posture already!  Grin

I really think that both Luton and Sheffield are trying their best. Getting promoted into the Premier League is never going to be easy in the first few games. The intensity is definitely different and the player material is also different. The Premier League clubs have so much cash available and even teams like West Ham have a few players in the team who are really, really good. There is no free meal for any team coming up from the Championship. Every single game is like a final for them and if you start off playing against Manchester City in the first week of the season, it's essentially guaranteed that it's going to end without a point.
665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 01, 2023, 08:09:18 PM

Will Roma be able to have a welcome back in the second half ? With the look of how the match went in the first half,Roma are not strong enough to hold down Milan because Milan is stronger than them and we saw that in their ball possession. Also Milan had created note chances of scoring but luck wasn't on their side.  On the other hand Roma also took courage and believed that they could equalise the goal but it wasn't that easy as they thought,because Milan didn't relent in their defense. The second half will be tougher than this because Mourihno will make some changes that might turn the game in his favour. I hope to see Lukaku in the second half and let's see if he can be the man to put hope back for Roma because he is a player that aggressively penetrates his opponent defense and turn nothing to something.


Absolutely not!

I am puzzled about their game and I am asking myself whether Mourinho will be managing Roma for much longer when they play like this. They have literally no chance against Milan. This game was supposed to be much tighter although I thought that Milan will have the advantage here and most likely win it with a 1 goal margin or something. But this game is not just a loss, it is Milan destroying Roma.

The only thing they can be happy about in this game so far is that it is only 0-2 for Milan and not 0-3 or 0-4. I guess Mourinho will freak out after the game, but he is also guilty I think. It is as if they don't have a game plan at all, which is not typical for Mourinho's teams.
666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 01, 2023, 02:38:39 PM
Last season Barcelona also didn't have a good game at the start of the season, but in the end Barcelona managed to perform spectacularly and win the La Liga title like they didn't have any problems. Their defense is very strong, their home record is good and they have dispelled all the bad speculation as if they had the best squad depth all season.

At the same time, Real Madrid appeared more convincing, but Real Madrid failed to appear consistent and ultimately failed to win the title. I'm a Real Madrid supporter, but I don't underestimate Barcelona. They are a team built on trusting one another, supporting one another, and growing strong with its underpaid young squad.
The two biggest rivals in La Liga are Real Madrid and Barcelona. And most of the time in La Liga we don't see many titles won outside of those two teams with either Real Madrid winning the league title or Barcelona winning the league title. 

Barcelona were not in a good position at the beginning of last season but from the middle of the season Barcelona made a great comeback in this league and eventually they beat Real Madrid to become La Liga champions. Barcelona's advantage over Real Madrid last season was that Barcelona's main target was only the La Liga title but Real Madrid's target was the leg title as well as the Champions League title but in the end Real Madrid failed to win the Champions League title as well as being the runner-up in winning the La Liga title. 

Real Madrid look to be slight favorites over Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season, barring injury problems we could see Real Madrid as La Liga champions this season.


What do you mean with "Barcelona were not in a good position at the beginning of last season"?



Above you can see the table of last season after five games and if in your opinion that is not a good condition after five games, what does that mean? If you ask me, I would call that an excellent position having the best offense along with Real Madrid and having the best defense, but I agree there is a small blemish because they tied one game and lost two points. But whatever team would start the season with that score and 4 wins and 1 draw, I think you can't call that subpar or not good.

Barcelona's main target is to win it all and it is the same for Real Madrid and this has nothing to do with defining main targets. Barcelona got kicked out of the Champions League, Real Madrid didn't. The top teams don't have main targets and really, often times they say that the national league is the most important title, but do you really believe that players from Real Madrid or Manchester City go home satisfied when they win the league titles and nothing else? Every player tells you that they are living and working for the Champions League title.
667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 01, 2023, 01:47:13 PM
Klopp has some things going under his sleeve, it will be a wasted effort if he doesn't signed any player now. However, seeing that they don't have any business in the Champions League this season, he might want to wait and observe how his boys are going to perform in the Premier League and then make some changes by January transfer period.

They have signed Ryan Gravenberch near the deadline day from Bayern which I think is a great move [1] . They need some fresh players and I feel they have filled in with some good midfielders with potential. Still they are not yet consistent but I believe as the season moves on they will become more consistent. This season they have to make it in CL because that is the minimum standard for a team like that.


 References :
[1] https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1697308004259963319

I think it is a good and interesting transfer as Gravenberch has had 25 appearances for Bayern Munich so far and was pretty good I think, but this seems to be a decision by the coach Thomas Tuchel who wanted a different midfielder because he said he has too many of the same kind. But for Klopp this is probably a great addition to his squad as Kopp likes to give younger and hungry players a chance and he knows how to develop them and how to squeeze their potential for the best of the team.

But still there is also risk coming with this transfer as Gravenberch is a great young player, but he is still not this player that you sent on and know 100% what he is going to do. He has had minor mistakes if I recall that correctly and the Premier League with Liverpool is different than playing the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich.
668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 31, 2023, 01:34:14 PM
Woah, up until I have read your post here I didn't look into the details and whether Palmer is really worth the money, but this is quite surprising. We have seen similar super deals when very young talents were extremely expensive, but usually they had some sort of achievements to present. It reminds me of Renato Sanchez who cost €35m when he was bought by Bayern Munich when he was 19 years old. But the reason back then was that he played a strong European championship, which then kind of makes sense because several clubs had their eyes on him.

But €45 million seems like a lot to me given that he played less than 500 minutes in the Premier League. This is at best another coin toss by Chelsea, but who cares when they have the money and everyone is happy. I am sure Palmer is still surprised by the salary he is now getting. Tongue

@tiCer Chelsea is playing an extremely dangerous game and if it works for them then they’ll easily get solid ROI for their transfer policy however the chances of it failing are pretty high. Furthermore Manchester City must be laughing at this transfer because no one would have paid so much for him and this is a pretty good deal from their perspective.

That is true if you look at the Palmer transfer as a singe event on their balance sheet. If it's a hit, there could be an ROI indeed. But Chelsea's policy is more like paying a too high price for 15 players, 2 of them make it and can even increase their value, and Chelsea goes home with a massive minus in the books.

You can always say that for one transfer giving it a shot could work out, but no matter how you twist and turn it, this transfer policy is doomed to fail ROI-wise. Or maybe Todd Boehly and his investment group has a strategy that is not obvious to me, but I wonder what that could be.

When clubs from Saudi Arabia do this, it's obvious that it has to do with green washing. But when an investment group like Boehly's does it, I have no idea how they could reap any financial benefits from it ever.
669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 31, 2023, 12:38:38 PM
45 million for Cole Palmer is just basically "we have so much money that we wouldn't even discuss anything under 20 and would rather keep the player and lose him after his contract is over" level. Cole Palmer doesn't worth 45 million, nowhere near that level, the inflation in football is seriously getting insane. We are going to start talking about just 50 million and up soon, nothing lower than that. This is hurting all the other nations who can't spend this much, it just doesn't make sense. I feel like he would worth somewhere around 20-25 million range, I would sort of understand 30 million but I can't really understand the situation being 45 million, maybe more than 50 with bonuses, that's WAAAAY too much.

Palmer is a talented guy, but he's only 21 years old. He's only played three games in the EPL for the main squad (and he's made 16 other substitute appearances). Palmer hasn't even played 500 minutes in the EPL. Why Chelsea bought Palmer for €45 million is a mystery to me. Tottenham bought Maddison and Liverpool bought Mac Allister for the same money this summer.

Woah, up until I have read your post here I didn't look into the details and whether Palmer is really worth the money, but this is quite surprising. We have seen similar super deals when very young talents were extremely expensive, but usually they had some sort of achievements to present. It reminds me of Renato Sanchez who cost €35m when he was bought by Bayern Munich when he was 19 years old. But the reason back then was that he played a strong European championship, which then kind of makes sense because several clubs had their eyes on him.

But €45 million seems like a lot to me given that he played less than 500 minutes in the Premier League. This is at best another coin toss by Chelsea, but who cares when they have the money and everyone is happy. I am sure Palmer is still surprised by the salary he is now getting. Tongue
670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Major League Soccer (MLS) 2021 on: August 31, 2023, 09:15:04 AM

I do not think that it would be that much of big deal if they end up getting more players, Miami already is doing great and I bet that they will continue to do even greater as well and should be considered understandable to win the title one day if they keep this up.

The only trouble Miami has is the fact that just like Ronaldo was the start of big payments like that to Saudi league, that means if MLS starts to pay a lot for the star players that may change some stuff. I think it would be quite troublesome and it would make it a bit different. The salary situation is the only thing that matters, we have seen how Saudi league was a terrible low level one and then they started to pay players 100+ million each and now they are bigger, MLS should do that.

Yes but we are talking about a fundamental change in their rules that do not only apply to the MLS, but to all other sports leagues as well right? Don't they have salary caps everywhere? Basketball, baseball, ice hockey, football...

If they were to change it for soccer, that would entail a lot of extra problems and discussions. And if they were to do that, it would still be far below what the Saudi Professional League pays to their superstars. The MLS should try to maintain and improve the attractiveness of their league with what is given to them already. A nice environment for soccer players, a world they can feel comfortable and home, and there are other things as well that sets them apart from the SPL.

But no matter what they do, I think financially there is no league in the world that could ever compete with the sheikhs who are willing to give it their maximum like they are doing now. Money is the hard factor here, so the way is to convince players with the soft factors. But I heard that even there the Saudis know what to do to make like easy and comfortable for the players.
671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 30, 2023, 08:59:21 PM
After a slow start he just picks up the numbers and wins some big points for Al Nassr to get back into the title race. For me there is no doubt that he will be the best striker . In two matches he had some amazing results so i expect even more from him in the upcoming matches.
I also no doubt, Ronaldo will definitely be able to become best striker and add more goals in the upcoming matches, at 38 years old he can still play very well. Al Nassr also knows very well how to attract the audience interest, they place Ronaldo as a mainstay striker to become the top scorer in this Saudi Pro League. But unfortunately this season is really tough for Al Nassr to got the title, because Ittihad currently at the top on the points table and that team quite impressive, they have not conceded a single goal so far. Grin

Indeed, currently Al-Nassr is 6 points behind the leaders of the standings but if we check the match schedule Al-Nassr and Ittihad have 2 matches to play ahead meaning there is the potential for another 6 points to collect then Ittihad also has another match scheduled against another strong team like Al-Hilal and Al-Ahli so there are still a lot of potential points lost and collected. This league has only played 4 matches, we don't know how the other matches will turn out, every team can experience consecutive defeats, right?

I just wanted to say that the league does not have as many matches because there are only 16 teams and then 4 games is still not much, but means more than in leagues with bigger teams. I quickly checked whether I got my facts straight and realized that the league grew from 16 to 18 teams since the beginning of this season. This means that it is still very early days and if Al-Nassr keeps going like this they'll probably soon get closer to Ittihad, but then I also realized that Ittihad has 12:0 goals in 4 wins. This doesn't look like they would have had any issues so far. 12:0 goals after 4 games has to be respected and it doesn't really imply that they will be losing lots points soon.
672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 30, 2023, 08:20:03 PM
The absence of these injured players will not make Real Madrid declined in their performance, rather they will stand a chance to gain more chances of very competent results this season. Vinicius Júnior is my favorite winger in the club, and I'm quite impressed with his performance, unfortunately he will be out for 6 weeks, it's really going to be challenging for Los Blancos this season. Checking the squad,  crucial players are absent, from the goalkeeper, the defender and now the frontline. It would be difficult for Real Madrid coach, Carlo Ancelotti to make some adjustments in his squad and also formation.
Although Real Madrid remains favorites for the league title challenges of injury with an extensive absentee list in La Liga should be addressed ASAP. Now that key players like Vinicius Jr. is out for 4 weeks and Courtois out for the season, I personally think that the title will not go to them this season. With Vinicius Jr. who is the team's most creative player out, his absence compounds issues as well as Courtois. I may change my stance if they are successful at signing Kylian Mbappe but at the moment, I don't think they'll win the La Liga this season.

I think this is still what could still make a difference when it comes to winning the La Liga title, but everyone knows that how much impact injuries can have on the season results, specifically when the best and most important players are affected. For instance, Courtois was so important to Real Madrid and saved them so many games in the past that it now remains to be seen whether Kepa can take on that role and be that the tower of strength in the back of their game. This won't be trivial for him.

But Real Madrid is also capable of pulling off some short-term transfers within the next few days that are left until September 1st.

So apart from Real Madrid having the best team when all players are available, Barcelona is still in the race when Real Madrid is facing sudden problems like this.
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 29, 2023, 09:13:42 PM
Bayern Munich was rumoured to Manchester United player Scott McTominay it say they are really serious want to bought this player and why they want McTominay because Tuchel is really liked him and since Tuchel train Chelsea he has been showing his interest to McTominay but at that time Manchester United aren't willing to release him and now after Ten Hag train Manchester United he was decide to sell McTominay

The price tag has been published that those who want to bought McTominay they have to pay approximately 35-40 millions and in the near future Bayern had a plan to bid McTominay but besides want to bought him Bayern Munich also offering other solution that they will offering exchange player because Manchester United are intrested to Ryan Gravenberch then Bayern Munich will taking possibility to exchange Ryan Gravenberch with McTominay
I’m not aware of Bayern Munich’s interest in Mc Tominay but if this is true it isn’t a bad deal at all even for £40 million I feel it is a fair price for Mc Tominay after impressing in the past Euro 2024 qualifiers. The former Ajax and Dutch player who is valued for 30 million can be a replacement for Mc Tominay but I’m not sure if Ten Hag’s interest in Gravenberch. However there may be a possibility since he played for Ajax, Erik Ten Hag has some kind of sentiment towards his former Ajax players.

I guess it also depends what position ten Hag needs to fill when McTominay would leave. This is the exact reason why Tuchel wants McTominay and would let go of Gravenberch. Gravenberch is too offensive in Tuchel's opinion and McTominay does more work for the defense while still having his qualities to give the game a push in the offense when needed. So this is not so much about a 1:1 change between Manchester United and Bayern Munich, but whether both think they can benefit from it and get their positions filled as needed.
674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 29, 2023, 09:00:57 PM
Maybe you can say it is still early but I believe in Napoli to be very competitive for the Serie A title again. Spalletti has left and I know that Napoli were doing amazing things in his lead. He said that he couldn't maintain this anymore and wanted to leave. Rudi Garcia came in his place and people were doubtful about what he could do.

Rudi Garcia already had a Serie A background in fact. He managed Roma before and he was doing quite decent job with them at the same time. I hoped to see the same work from him at Napoli also. Their start has really impressed me so far. Because they are still maintaining the same dominant game.

I won't be surprised if they make it to the title once again. But this time I don't think it will be as easy as last season.

I don't think Napoli will be affected by the change in coach because, in my opinion, changing coaches doesn't have the same impact on a team as changing players, and I don't think anything will change because Napoli didn't sell out its players like the other teams did; the team's players are still the same as they were last season, which is why I believe their performance hasn't changed. Many people feel that Napoli has never played a very great squad, which is why they always win the games they play. However, I refuse to believe this because Napoli was one of the top teams in the serie A league last season.

According to my observations, I don't think Napoli will have any problems this season because every position on the team is still in good shape. The most crucial position is the striker position, and Napoli still has Victor Osimhen, who used to play in that position for them and who always does his best to keep the team at the top. I think they can still win the season title this time around.


I think it depends on the player and the coach! Wink Yes the player can't score the goals or go onto the pitch and influence the game, but I think there is a reason that some coaches have dozens of titles while others never had their hands on a trophy. And the contribution of a single player can also be very limited. It does depend on the specific team and what they need the most. If it is a team that is all about motivation and effort, I guess a coach can do more than the addition of a single strong player. That is why there are sometimes surprises when the underdogs beat the teams consisting of geniuses.
675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 28, 2023, 03:26:17 PM
Yesterday most favorites did not win including Fiorentina at odd 1.67,Juventus at odd 1.7 and Lazio at odd 1.65.The fun fact is that these teams were all playing at home and no one of them managed to win,many of you will say a coincidence but I will say it is because a lot of people have bet loads of money in these events and some even parlaying them that these results happen,it is not difficult nowadays to interfere with the result of one game.Usually out of three favorites one should have at least won but yesterday was a huge surprise day for Serie A as all these teams could not.

I think that football is not the same and most teams do not take it seriously,it is just money business for them and not glory anymore,while I would justify Fiorentina as they were tired because played at Thursday in Europa Conference League the other teams especially Lazio should have won.
Do you think this is a score game from the bookies?
Because many people bet on the top teams, the dealers set the score so they can take a lot of profit, what do you mean?
Serie A is known for its match fixing scandals but I don't think it started happening at the start of the season, maybe the reason for Fiorentina being tired is quite understandable and it was clear in the match they had a 2 goal lead in the first half but Lecce equalized in the second half, but for Lazio and Juventus are indeed the team's performance which is not good so I think it's only natural that they can't win.
I watched the Juventus match, they didn't play well this week, the team's performance was very erratic while Lazio had indeed not gotten any points for 2 matches because this team's performance at the start of the season was quite bad.

Never say never, but seriously in my wildest dreams I can't imagine that Juventus Turin after just getting caught for illegal financial activities would now be involved in a match fixing scandal. Cheesy No, I think there are days when the results just are as they are.

There have been a few games that were quite close and none of them has anything to do with match fixing.

I am aware of a few games that were fixed and it is quite some time ago and I saw that in Youtube, but I wonder how difficult match fixing would be given how many cameras there are, also the addition of the VAR, all these extra technology and perspectives. If a game was really fixed in advance, how likely is it that a player or an official can make the desired result happen when there are so many people involved in a game?

I also think that Juventus Turin has a huge burden to carry from last season and if there is one thing they don't want, then it is to lose points and fall behind in the fight for the Scudetto.
676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 28, 2023, 02:40:39 PM
I think what is also important is to see Manchester United's absolute performance and with their 75 points last season they were doing good I think. It wasn't impressive, but Manchester United benefitted from many of the toughest competitors to struggle so hard. Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool did so bad that they made it easy for Manchester United to be ahead of them. If the strongest teams in the Premier League perform on a high level, then it would be much harder for Manchester United to finish in the top four. I don't know what they are lacking so far to take their game truly to the next level, but I thought that their team is strong enough to compete with everyone. But a first analysis shows that they almost failed against Wolverhampton, then lost their game against Tottenham and now almost tied a game against Nottingham Forest despite being one man down with almost half an hour to go. I think this isn't what they've been hoping for so far.
That's what I mean and sometimes every top team in the English league has a bad moment at the start of the season and maybe also influenced by some mid or bottom teams who play with high intensity. But when the games are almost half a season, usually teams that are far from the level of the top teams will lose consistency and one by one they will lose points from each match. Manchester United may not be one of them and there are other big teams who are also experiencing the same thing and we can see from the results of the three matches that have taken place. In the previous three matches Ten Hak's team had difficulty keeping pace with the matches against Wolverhampton, Tottenham, and most recently Nottingham Forest.

I highlight the front line because they don't have a centre-forward and so far have place Marcus Rasford and Anthony Martial ineffective and even though Anthony Martial is a centre-forward however his performance was below the level required by Manchester United. On the other hand, we may also see that in the previous three matches the performance of the midfield and defenders has also been inconsistent so far, so Ten Hak must immediately find a solution to this problem.

Yes but lacking a centre-forward doesn't really come as a surprise for them as they had enough time to find a proper player for that position if Ten Haag wanted it.

But this is exactly the problem that three games in a row were problematic. When they win the first game against Wolverhampton at home and in their own stadium Wolverhampton has more chances than they had, the whole team should know that something must be changed.

That game is then followed by a loss and a true reality check against Tottenham. Still not enough to have all the warning signals shining deep red? This is what I think is their biggest problem. They don't learn from past experiences. The game against Nottingham Forst could have been a draw as well and then they would already be in trouble also in terms of the number of points they would have had then. Now it still looks ok, but everyone who had a closer look at the three games knows that Manchester United is still not really ready for this.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Major League Soccer (MLS) 2021 on: August 28, 2023, 02:14:00 PM
But the run that Inter Miami has since Messi and the Spaniards arrived is impressive. Messi has really sparked some enthusiasm and new ambition within the team and the club.
It is not just impressive, it is remarkable! Messi has totally converted the whole club. Stadiums are packed full to watch Messi and in games where he does not play, there is not so much excitement about the games from the spectators. Messi's arrival in the MLS has rejuvenated the interest of people in the league and has rescued the league from totally being swallowed by the Saudi professional league. If Messi had not moved to MLS, there will not be many talk about the league like we see presently because all the interest was already moving to the SPL.

That is for sure but I think it is quite normal for the people to go crazy about Messi in the beginning, but what's more insightful is how Inter Miami will be doing in a few months from now and whether they can sign a couple more players from Europe. The MLS is still not able to compete with the SPL for as long as there are salary caps in place and that won't change.

The deal with Jordi Alba, Busquets and Messi seems to also have been very well orchestrated in advance. I think it is no coincidence that three players like that in a bundle agree to join the last ranked club in the MLS. There was most likely a lot of coordination and negotiation involved.

But yes it is remarkable that they turned Inter Miami upside down and they really keep winning their games or score spectacular last minute goals and keep their nerves at penalty shootouts. The league has seriously benefitted from the Messi transfer.
678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 28, 2023, 01:36:05 PM
For today match Rayo vs Atletico Madrid i think home team cannot be underestimate because in the last 2 matches Rayo has successfully to collect 6 points and cleansheet so obviously Rayo in the positive condition although probably their status as underdog but i think it's not easy to beat them and Atletico Madrid last week has just gets unsatisfactory result because they only can able to playing draw against Betis so they want return to winning ways through an this match

Atletico Madrid has odds @1.97 but i don't think this is could be good pick because Rayo also sometimes to showed good performance at their home ground especially for team condition Rayo looks in the good shape because there is no players who gets injured or suspension but different situation for Atletico because for today match they will lost Koke who got light injured and i was thinking this match probably will ended to draw considers the conditions from these teams is not so different



Yes I think going well into the season with two clean sheets as Rayo Vallecno is a remarkable start for them, but they are still one win away from a dream start I think.

Beating Almeria and Granada is good already, but now they are up against one of the three strongest teams in La Liga and those are the games when they can also win some big points that not only are important for the standings in the table, but also can significantly boost their confidence for the games to come. When they are able to beat Atletico Madrid and even play that game on their level, it is also a sign that they don't have to be afraid of any other opponent.

Although I think that Atletico isn't quite on the level of Real Madrid and Barcelona. By the end of September we will have the first big La Liga game when Atletico plays at home against Real Madrid.
679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 27, 2023, 07:50:18 PM
Its first goals from Robert Lewandowski in La Liga this season, after absent scoring goals in last two matches, Lewandowski opening first goals and how possibility become top scorer again during on top scorer list he left three goals from Jude Bellingham.
The league just started, so it is very early to talk about who will be the top scorer in La Liga, Robert Lewandowski will surely be in the competition for top scorer in the league, but i am not certain about Jude Bellingham, i know that he has scored four goals for Madrid in only three games, but he is a midfielder and i believe that after many games, the attackers in La Liga will score more goals that he will do, but it is possible that he will be amongst the top 10 in the list of topscorers.

He usually is a midfielder, but Ancelotti gave him a different task now, which is way more offensive than I thought, but yes I think he will score a decent number of goals, but probably not like 30 goals or something. He had a great start and I am sure he will score more, but I don't expect him to be competing for the top scorer title. But let's find out and maybe he proves me wrong.

Regarding Lewandowski, I am not sure at all what to think about him. He is putting a lot of effort into the game and he is playing with high intensity, but he isn't as efficient as he used to be in the past. When he went to Barcelona from Bayern, I thought that he would score around 30 goals for sure, but again he hasn't had the best start. Which probably doesn't matter too much as the goal against Villareal was incredibly important for them as a team.
680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 27, 2023, 06:58:12 PM
The start of this season did look so difficult for Manchester United, their performance was far from what many people expected after being very active in the transfer market, but in fact their performance was still far from good.
But even so, we cannot judge Ten Hag that he has failed, all of that needs a process, remind you when Teh Hag first arrived last season, there were so many changes that he made for the development of Manchester United.
I think we only need watts to really see Manchester United get to their best performance under Erik Ten Hag.
Manchester United is not one of them and even several other big clubs that have spent a lot of money in the current transfer market have not found their best form either. Chelsea, for example, has spent a lot of money in the transfer market, but the results in several previous matches have been beyond expectations and when compared to Manchester United, Chelsea has spent far more money. It's still too early to say Ten Hak failed because it's only been a few matches and last season is an illustration of how they played quite unstable at the start of the league, but slowly their performance is getting better.

The new striker they bought has also not played due to injury and maybe there will be surprises for other players who will come to Manchester United. So it takes a few more matches to see what Manchester United is capable of, whether Ten Hak fails or can actually present several titles this season for Manchester United.

I think what is also important is to see Manchester United's absolute performance and with their 75 points last season they were doing good I think. It wasn't impressive, but Manchester United benefitted from many of the toughest competitors to struggle so hard. Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool did so bad that they made it easy for Manchester United to be ahead of them. If the strongest teams in the Premier League perform on a high level, then it would be much harder for Manchester United to finish in the top four. I don't know what they are lacking so far to take their game truly to the next level, but I thought that their team is strong enough to compete with everyone. But a first analysis shows that they almost failed against Wolverhampton, then lost their game against Tottenham and now almost tied a game against Nottingham Forest despite being one man down with almost half an hour to go. I think this isn't what they've been hoping for so far.
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