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721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: February 18, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
BWAHAHA now you care about logical fallacies do you? That wasn't an argument, that was literally me just asking you what nation you are from. You seem to purposely obfuscate it while constantly criticizing other nations. I am curious.
Absolutely not, I'm criticizing the bizarre state of mind of American patriot who want so much to act like the "funding fathers" wanted them to while not doing what they really did.

France if your question has any interest.
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Also what does that have to do with the fact that thorium reactors are not future technology?

Well it was probably not clear but as your answer were just 2 Wikipedia links I acted the same.

Thorium aren't future technology indeed. But when you say Thorium reactors, 98% of the time you in fact mean either subcritical reactors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerator-driven_subcritical_reactor) which are still in research or molten salt reactors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor) which are in the end of research cycle but still not operationnal.

Anyone saying Thorium reactors refers to those 2 because those are the 2 reactors supposed to bring nuclear energy to the next level.

Coin4commies clearly talked about those 2 types of reactors saying that Thorium and fusion are future...
722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 18, 2019, 10:52:09 AM
I have plenty of empathy. I just don't make the mistake of confusing it with logic. All the empathy in the world doesn't help anyone without logic.

And where is the lack of logic in saying anyone working 40 hours a week on a physically demanding job can't really take the time and energy needed to step back and improve his life/skills/conditions?

You seem to say that people need to take care of themselves and government shouldn't provide to losers that are too lazy.

What you miss though it's that no "socialist" policy gives everything to people. Those policies are here to allow people to be in a less precarious position and to open new possibilities for them.

But government won't do the studies for you. Government won't give you new skills and better job. Government won't create your own company.

No. But government can grant you free college. Government can enact better work conditions and wages. Government can provide trainings for people already working. Government can insure you financially so that creating your company doesn't mean you risk everything.

The goal of socialism isn't to do everything for people. It's to give people as much possibilities as it can.
723  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: February 18, 2019, 10:38:09 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor

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My son just showed this to me.  If it wasn't so true it would be hilarious.


Are you all "free citizen of the glorius America without too much government cause the Fathers were goddamn right about how horrible democracy is" even aware that normally government = citizens?

That's even the reason of your second amendment if you weren't such cowards...

That's funny. The government = citizens. That is the whole point of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, to make sure the people have equal POWER with the government. It very explicitly limits government power, and details birth rights the government can neither grant nor take away. What are you implying, unless we start a civil war against ourselves we are cowards? I am sure you are very hard core on the internet. Where are you from again? Lets talk about your nation.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
724  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California attempts to solve student housing crisis with-- students in cars? on: February 18, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
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Well cost aside, its still an equity issue.  You are telling people they cannot go to any school in a big city which happens to be where most of the best schools and job opportunities are.
No nobody is saying "any school in a big city."


Yes you are...

When saying "don't do anything and just let the market do" you're simply saying "poor students will go to schools in poor areas".

In short you're saying that really poor students will never go to big city schools.

The rest only depends on what exactly you say with "poor" and "big city" but the idea is the same.
725  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Democracy Yes OR No ??? on: February 18, 2019, 09:50:56 AM

Most systems that are democracy, lead to a form of dictatorship. Why? Because the democratic electing of government officials places leaders (rulers) in office. These leaders seldom do the things that they were elected to do. So, we wind up with dictatorship by group, or by the group leader... like a president.

Cool

Which just means representative democracy is shit.

Not that democracy is shit.
726  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: February 18, 2019, 09:49:57 AM
My son just showed this to me.  If it wasn't so true it would be hilarious.



Are you all "free citizen of the glorius America without too much government cause the Fathers were goddamn right about how horrible democracy is" even aware that normally government = citizens?

That's even the reason of your second amendment if you weren't such cowards...
727  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green New Deal on: February 18, 2019, 09:47:27 AM
Thorium is today.

No.
Not at all.

Thorium is "not so far tomorrow normally".

Not today.
728  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 18, 2019, 09:46:08 AM
You clearly haven't worked hard one day in your life.

Before becoming an engineer I've worked one month as a production line worker following 3 times 8 planning.

Doing ANYTHING constructive and trying to use your brain when you work in such conditions is not possible. I mean it's physically not possible.

People like you simply deny the reality of alienation of hard work.

Please anyone thinking that people are just "not willing to better themselves" just try to think about the condition you're in when you just finished a 50 hours of physical and repetitive hard job week. You CAN'T think. Not matter your education, your intelligence, your curiosity, when the week end you're just dead. The 2 days of "freedom" you get at the end are here just so you are able to go back to work week after.

In just four weeks I and my SO litteraly saw me go dumber every day, more tired and less proactive. After 2 weeks I stopped reading on the evening because I was too tired. After 3 I stopped doing anything productive after coming back from work. After 4 I couldn't do anything of the weekend.

Now imagine people doing this for YEARS?? How could you expect them to go and "better themselves"?? That's impossible. They're barely humans at this point, they're just slaves.

Anyone saying with this voice full of contempt that people are just making "excuses", go work for real. Then try to "better yourselves". We'll see how you "don't need help from the government" then.

There you go again looking in to your magic crystal ball that you think magically gives you to know things about my personal life you couldn't possibly know about. None of what you just said is fact, it is entirely your personal interpretation of reality. You just desperately need these people to occupy a victim class in order for it to justify your Marxist ideology.

Most people are poor because they don't do anything different to change their situation. There is not some hidden army of freelance ninjas running around oppressing everyone who doesn't go anywhere in life. Some people just don't give a fuck to look 2 inches past their face at what they are doing now. This is a fact.

Also your little story is cute... one month on a production line before you sat your fat ass behind a desk. You sold me on your working man creds HAH!

Everything we have different is highlighted in this discussion.

Your double standard first: when I say poor people can't do much about their situation it's bullshit, when you say "Some people just don't give a fuck to look 2 inches past their face at what they are doing now." it's a "fact".

Your absolutely lack of empathy and your incapacity to put yourself in the shoes of anyone in a different situation.

Your arrogance and contempt towards anyone you deem "too stupid" or "too lazy".


Anyone having such speech should be put in the life of a really poor personn just for a year. We'll see how your incredible mind will allow you to climb your way back to the top of the American dream...
729  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Democracy Yes OR No ??? on: February 15, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
Lobbying, persuading, buying the dumb majority, or scaring them.

Which is why democracy can work only with education.

You don't need to be of great intelligence to make the correct decision. You only need to be educated into thinking logically that's all.

What country gives classes of philosophy, sociology, history and logic/politics/debate together? None. Still those are the important field any citizen should be taught and that would be enough to vote logically and accordingly to one's values.


No matter what, any system that is NOT a democracy can only lead to dictatorship anyway.
730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California attempts to solve student housing crisis with-- students in cars? on: February 15, 2019, 12:47:52 PM
Again, so what? The students are not required to go to that college. They have freedom of choice.

Yeah exactly. I mean who cares about poors not being able to chose their college adequatly to their skills and potential but adequatly to their geographical location because they're unable to pay a rent?

Let the poor go to the colleges close to their area. Which will be the worst possible colleges as they're colleges close to poor areas.

So poors will go to shit college and rich to the best college.

It seems like a pretty fair deal to me. They have "freedom of choice".
731  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 15, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
You contradict yourself. You demand all these things must cost money, and you yourself gave a good example of free use. Also not all libraries exist solely on government funding so.. not exactly. Also there are access plans as low as $20 a month I have seen, or even $1 at McDonalds to get wifi. There is no reason people can't afford these things with minimal amounts of effort. Your argument is moot. The government is not our savior, it is our jailer.

You clearly haven't worked hard one day in your life.

Before becoming an engineer I've worked one month as a production line worker following 3 times 8 planning.

Doing ANYTHING constructive and trying to use your brain when you work in such conditions is not possible. I mean it's physically not possible.

People like you simply deny the reality of alienation of hard work.

Please anyone thinking that people are just "not willing to better themselves" just try to think about the condition you're in when you just finished a 50 hours of physical and repetitive hard job week. You CAN'T think. Not matter your education, your intelligence, your curiosity, when the week end you're just dead. The 2 days of "freedom" you get at the end are here just so you are able to go back to work week after.

In just four weeks I and my SO litteraly saw me go dumber every day, more tired and less proactive. After 2 weeks I stopped reading on the evening because I was too tired. After 3 I stopped doing anything productive after coming back from work. After 4 I couldn't do anything of the weekend.

Now imagine people doing this for YEARS?? How could you expect them to go and "better themselves"?? That's impossible. They're barely humans at this point, they're just slaves.

Anyone saying with this voice full of contempt that people are just making "excuses", go work for real. Then try to "better yourselves". We'll see how you "don't need help from the government" then.
732  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: February 14, 2019, 09:29:53 AM

You know what is interesting regarding your last comment, is under the new sexual assault laws in Canada, if you were to accuse him of rape he would essentially have to prove he didn't rape you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089923.0


That's one big hell pile of bullshit you have here xD

Sure now in Canada you have to prove that you haven't done anything when you're accused of rape.

That's exactly what the bill says. Well I could quote the part of the bill saying something even remotely close to that but i'll just... Well I could but... Well I could.
733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Democracy Yes OR No ??? on: February 14, 2019, 09:18:40 AM
Pure Democracy is just mob justice where the minority have zero personal rights. I prefer a Constitutional Republic with a limited democratic element as we have in the US to choose our representatives. We need to enforce the laws we already have, not rebuild the whole system.

And who writes the constitution?
I mean if you build a new government, who gets to decide what's in the constitution?
734  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: February 14, 2019, 09:17:11 AM
Petite pensée pour Oscar, mon pote, j'espère que tu vas réussir à bander ce soir !

Huh Huh
735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 13, 2019, 11:35:53 AM
Lol. Its so cute you think this bothers me even one little bit. Also I did present facts, just a few posts ago. I am sorry you have trouble keeping your emotions and your logic separated. If you don't like the tone I take with you perhaps you should check your own first.
I don't think you're the one annoyed but I think our useless exchanges are greatly annoying the potential readers of P&S section.

And please quote one single fact you've given here...
736  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: February 13, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
Pardon, j'avais répondu avant de me rendre compte que, comme d'habitude, tu n'étais pas capable de finir ton message.

Et donc une fois ma réponse publiée tes edits intempestifs et complètement en douce rendaient mon propos "à côté de la plaque".

Je vous laisse donc entre gens de biens (c'est-à-dire qui ont du bien puisqu'on est dans un système capitaliste) mais pas capable d'écrire un raisonnement correct.

Bisous.
737  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 13, 2019, 09:26:42 AM
Yes, I am sure it is just a coincidence you do this often and declare yourself correct while making no argument to the contrary. Double standards. That's funny.

Ok TECSHARE let's agree on something. You stop nagging me and I stop nagging you.

Our "exchanges" are useless trolling only taking space for nothing on this forum. We no longer argue we just... Insult each other. I don't remember last time you brought anything close to a fact in one of our "argument" and I'm sure you have the same feeling.

It's not productive, not interesting and I bet everyone reading us have the same feeling.

I'll delete my previous "nagging" posts. I suggest you do the same so we keep the P&S section clean of our useless fights.
738  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: La dette mondiale atteint 184000 milliards de dollars on: February 13, 2019, 07:18:32 AM
Il valait mieux pour HP que la machine s'arrête plutôt que "l'expérience utilisateur" soit anéantie.
Cependant, cette stratégie s'est largement retournée contre le constructeur. Mais elle n'avait strictement rien à voir avec une obsolescence programmée. Le constructeur ne cherchait pas à vendre davantage de machines avec cette stratégie, il cherchait à afficher la plus haute qualité d'impression en toute circonstance.


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUI

BIEN SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR

Le constructeur a mis un programme qui auto détruisait sa machine.

Mais c'est pas de l'obsolescence programmée xD

Ah ben c'est cool alors.

C'est comme moi, j'ai tué mon voisin aujourd'hui mais c'était pas un meurtre. Pas de notion d'homicide dans mon acte, juste la volonté d'avoir un immeuble calme sans ses travaux.
739  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: emmanuel macron, oh tête de con, on vient te chercher chez toi !!! on: February 12, 2019, 02:56:34 PM
une bonne base de départ pour une remise à plat de tout ce fatras de lois absconses et contradictoires serait de partir des 10 commandements.

Magnifique. Vraiment.
Si Yaplatu est un troll, comparé à toi, c'est un trollinet Smiley.


C'est des choses comme ça qui te font douter du bien fondé de l'idée démocratique ><
740  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is the violence in France completely legitimate? on: February 12, 2019, 02:51:32 PM
the coldest month of the year!!
fear to be mutilated for life
I never said there wasn't a very good reason for the movement to be on the decrease. Just that it was.
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what the newspapers say, they only talk about "casseurs" - translate in english for me Wink
I wouldn't know. That's a French invention, typical novlangue. The word was created for politics to be able to divide the people with the will to protest between violent and peaceful ones and make them fight together.
Even though you need both peaceful and violent people for a protest to be successful.
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300,000 average anyway and it's going to go up. and government have really become crazy. it didn't happen since 40 years++
Well I can only hope you're right.
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