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Si lo miramos desde el punto de vista del emprendedor me quedo con esta gran frase:
Si hubiera preguntado a mis clientes qué es lo que necesitaban, me hubieran dicho que un caballo más rápido
Henry Ford
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ok, Smooth. I'm really tired of talking with you. You are like a lawyer, always pointing the irrelevant to distract from the obvious.
Staff and members: read the stuff. That's all. Then act accordingly. This kind of people (TheDasher) is garbage.
This kind of people are the cancer of Bitcointalk. Please do something.
It is a shame this conversation is not in spanish or catalan. It's like fighting with my right hand behind my back.
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1.- As I said, 229 posts attacking the same thread and the same topic. Not a single post outside it. Repeating the same over and over. You know and I know. And the posts history is available: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=489877;sa=showPostsThis behaviour is ok or not? This guy should be banned after 229 posts? Let people read. 3.- You posted several quotes talking about a supposedly "scam". I did not. You are bringing the debate to the meta section. Not me. I talk about trolls. EDIT: I don't disagree that some individual posts may veer into trolling and those can be legitimately reported as Spoetnik said. That's true for virtually every single thread on this forum. If you think there isn't a lot of trolling everywhere on this forum you need to look around a bit. But many of that poster's posts are just on-topic criticism and it is inappropriate for any coin to expect forum mods censor that (even if it weren't accurate, since accuracy, opinions, and accusations of scamming are explicitly NOT moderated). Example: INSTAMINED / SOLOMINED SCAM - READ FOR YOURSELF - DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE EXCITEMENT OF THE CIRCLE JERK
1. Within the very first hour over 500,000 coins were mined
2. Within 8 hours over 1.5 million coins were mind, which is most of the instamine.
On the matter of the instamine itself, you are ignoring a whole host of extremely shady practices that surrounded the instamine.
3. The Evan misled people into thinking that the launch would not happen for days (and specifically not in hours), then it happened in a few hours. Considering the 500K number in the first item above, the effect of this "ambush" was enormous.
This is about the accuracy and good or bad name of a project. A lot of work from a lot of people. This is the meta section and some people will read this debate. 4.- I was answering a point someone said. Can I? best, |
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You think the behaviour of "the Dasher" and others is ok, and I think is not. As I said, It is no necessary to debate any longer. This is an open forum and anyone can check the thread and the profiles to decide. I can quote dozens of trolling posts, some in only one day published by "The Dasher", "Adam" or "Icebreaker". You are a long time reader of the thread and you know this is true. BTW.- As you mentioned several times about the supposedly DASH "scam". Let me post some links to clarify some facts for the newcomers (we talked one milion times about it in the past, and will be talking about it in the future, don't worry) https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162You should also consider that there might be personal conflicts of interest involved. IMO this is more common than being paid (directly or indirectly) to troll here.
Sadly, this is true. Some people I mentioned are very well known supporters of other coins, coins which are in direct competition of DASH. |
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@smooth I want to ask just one question Smooth; do you think the behaviour of the guy who is controlling "the Dasher" is ok? It is correct to have an account only to FUD and TROLL a project? And yes, what "the Dasher", "AdamWhite", "Icebreaker", etc (not you) is the worse kind of trolling I ever saw in a forum. And I am 39 years old, I began with an Spectrum 48k. So imagine. This is not a legitimate concern or discussion. These people repeat the same topic (accusation, joke, etc) 5-6 times in our thread the same day for months. The same topic! Without discussion. Just to troll. It is no necessary to belive what I say, anyone can check: "Icebreaker" latest posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17501;sa=showPosts"AdamWhite" latest posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216500;sa=showPostsHere in the META subforum I asked the people and mods to check "The Dasher", because 229 posts all related (even the name is) with the Dash currency is really a not very common experience. All the posts trolling or fudding the main thread or threads about DASH in the alt section. This is a perfect example of the behaviour I want to denunce. "The Dasher" latest posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=489877;sa=showPostsThe problem is not the topic, it is ok to disagree and say it loud. I think this is good. The problem is to repeat the same 5,6 times a day for months. And yes this is trolling. And I want to know who is the owner of "the Dasher" account, because I think this guy deserves a permament BAN from Bitcointalk. (surpringsly, after my accusations in the META section these people are very quiet. The history button and the "latest posts" is still available) I presented some facts, let's other Bitcoiners and mods decide what's ok or not. |
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aleix, you identified 22 posts out of 400. What about the other 378? I think you just proved my point.
and I repeat: You wanna count how many post you have in your threads (main + speculation) made by DASH people or dedicated paid trolls? You and your people are always messing around here. . That's really pathetic. That's my point. |
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I don't know how you guys can complain about Monero "trolls" being active in this thread when you post bait like this. Two people discussing Monero issues, so what? Such is the orchestration of community development. +1 When necessary we are here defending the project against trolleros. We are not here to provoke or create bad vibe. I don't care about the talks (real or not) of people from other communities. This is offtopic and unnecessary |
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Monero people need to troll harder Dash to succeed, lame attempts like this lousy thread aren't working.  |
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 FUD vs. reality Newcomers, do your own research. |
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Awesome, thanks for doing it. We need more community-made talks about Dash. |
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I'll follow this thread closely.  |
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Sadly, because of this kind of professional trolls and other currency supporters the situation in our thread is out of control. You just need to check the last 3 pages to understand the conversation has become impossible. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.109700I think the moderator of the section (@mprep) is doing his best. Unfortunately this is not enough. |
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Thanks guys for the nice responses, but this is not about trolling (which I don't like, but it is inevitable). This is about an account with 223 posts (full member status) and used only to troll one specific topic: one specific thread ( the main of Dash) and threads in the alt-subforum related to Dash. The name of the account and the historical of posts are visible to check. This is what I call a professional troll. And I think this is not the only one. I think this account and other similar accounts belong to the same guy, a guy sponsored to do an specific work in here in Bitcointalk. That's the reason I ask the global mods for a further and deeper investigation. (excuse my grammar and vocabulary mistakes, english is my third language) |
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I don't see the GUI proposal and funding  , maybe for 2020. Don't need to rush the team, they are busy trolling and fuding the Dash main thread and all the alt-section  |
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I don't see the GUI proposal and funding , maybe for 2020. Don't need to rush the team, they are busy trolling and fuding here |
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You forgot option C:
Don't care. Dash is an irrelevant, fraudulently instamined shitcoin.
You work as a paid troll, posting EVERY DAY several times in the DASH thread or in the Alt section to TROLL DASH for a some XMR Please lurkers and newcomers check the profile of this disgusting person: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=216500;sa=showPosts And YOU say you don't care  I really don't understand how you can live with yourself. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Still waiting for proof that I'm a "Paid troll" - the rates seem to change daily. First you accused me of being paid 5 XMR / day, then 5 XMR / hour, yesterday I even saw 5 XMR / post! I care about educating noobs about scams like Darkcoin/DASH. I don't care whether it's on Bitcointalk or another forum. of course, you can work here and in another forums Meanwile, in https://www.dashtalk.orgDiscussions: 4,163 4,175 4,449 4,722 Messages: 60,000 60,212 64,941 68,827 Members: 3,163 3,168 3,297 3,391 TIP: You can visit https://forum.getmonero.org to understand the ultimate reason for the daily trolling attack against DASH, the paid trolls, etc.   |
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