<...> I will neutral tag him with a direction to this thread. That should get his attention, seeing as how he never responded here on forum on the issue.
Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal. I'm not saying that he is wrong, but Murat should really think about laying out his side of things here. Not saying anything doesn't do anyone any favors, and it usually just leads to more guessing and people making up stuff that aint true. Even if Metropoly screwed up and didn't hold up their end of the bargain, no reason for the manager to not speak out about it publicly. |
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It seems pretty evident here who the actual scammer is. I will quote your post with img edits for better visibility: I dont want to keep this anymore but as i speak with Phoenix Gambling. I just wanted to share screenshot.   You never keep your promise. 1 and half month come on ? You said phoenix not real owner, lets see who is is real owner. --- Edit : Check dates and promises(there is more if need)    Edit 2 : If we say something against you, you are always "ban" without question, you have banned me from channel, even our common friend banned from the other channel even he is innocent just try to help me. Pathetic. So we cannot say anything about you. |
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Does anyone here really utilize these online crypto casinos to place bets in bitcoin and have you had much luck with it?
You have been a member of this community since 2018 and you are well aware to post in the Gambling section, so I really don't understand your question. You even promote bitcoin casino with your signature. What have you found to give you the best odds in winning? Is there any skill involved in any of their games or is it all purely chance?
It depends on the game. All casino games are luck-based to some extent. Some may involve a degree of skill, like poker, where your decisions can influence the outcome. |
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It's not so black and white as people here make it seem. Phoenix gambling is a scamming group of people who stole the "code" and now is pretending they made it.
Original developers published their 1st version of the code long time ago and gave permission to anyone to change it, modify it and resell it.
Do you have proof of that? I'm one of the people who took the code and changed it and what I sell is not only the code - I provide support, i wrote the installation guide (3 versions so far) and I provide updates and bug fixes -
Again, depending on the original license (e.g., GPLv2 or v3), you may be permitted to modify the script but not to resell it, or its derivatives. You can offer support, provide updates and bug fixes, and charge for these services, but that still doesn't grant you rights to the original script or its derivatives. Please note that Phoenix gambling is still selling the code full of bugs (over 100 of them) and they refuse to fix any - because they think its not necessary or because they cant? you decide.
Do you have proof of that? I'm doing this community a favor for taking the garbage code and turning it into a usable piece of software but hey, as they say, do good, get fucked.
By that logic, degika is doing this community a favor too! Also, to add a final note to this discussion as i cant keep checking this thread to reply:
The source code in question is NOT AN OPEN SOURCE CODE.
It was simply published by the original devs as they didn't want to continue developing the software as it was full of bugs already.
It has no open source licences and other bullshit - It's free for all piece of code.
LOL! That's actually even worse for you! The default software license for publicly released code is typically "All Rights Reserved." What that means is the person who wrote the code keeps all the copyrights and control over it. Other people can't use it, change it, or distribute it without explicit permission from the original creator. |
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As we bought from one guy, he toke money and never install that script/service. We decide to share to public, including installation document. Demo : https://demoscript.online/Note - do not buy from them, when they get money , they never answer or asking more money... Good luck. For Installation Document TG - @zenXXo If you decide to make it public then the right way to do it is on github, that way the community can make it a better code. But here are some ethical problems, you should not make public the work from a developer even if you pay for the code, because if that developer wanna sell more copies then you just kill his business and all his work. If the code comes with the Installation Documentation then you should install it yourself. But I'm of the idea that talking is the right way to fix any problem, and this kind of action never end well. But good luck anyway. Well, this is more complicated than it seems at first! Looks like degika bought a casino script from swaga. But here's the thing - swaga didn't actually make the script. He resold it illegally after getting it from the real developers at phoenix-gambling! I even found a comment phoenix-gambling left a few months ago explaining the whole situation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440223.msg61782027#msg61782027They said swaga took their open source script from GitHub without permission and acted like he created it himself! Super sketchy. degika probably had no idea since swaga was acting like the legitimate creator. This couldn't be further from the truth but hey people on here will say anything to get that 1 post / merit. Phoenix gambling is not the original dev of the code I'm selling and they have 0 rights to it - They're not even a legal entity. Anyone with half a brain is free to download the code and use it OR (like i did) change it, modify it and sell it as a standalone product. You say you're a developer? Then you should know that's not how software licenses work. See, when someone writes a program and shares it under a certain license they still have rights over that code. Stuff like how it can be used, changed, or passed around and unless you wrote it yourself or got the ok from whoever did, you can't just sell it. Thats infringing on their intellectual property rights. I can provide you with over 10 individual cases where Phoenix gambling scammed their own customers by not providing them with what they promised - Original developer would NOT do that. Thats not the topic of this discussion. Besides, two wrongs don't make a right.Ive had this discussion before and I'm not planning to again. I'm allowed to change the code that is public and brand it as my own given the enough code was changed.
Oh, you're absolutely, positively, 100% wrong!  You are allowed to modify and use open-source code for your own purposes, but you must still adhere to the terms of the original license, no matter how much of the original code was changed. |
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It didn't fall - it was dropped by whales. They want to shake off the remaining weak hands (most likely it will drop ever more after the xDay event despite very good news).
I call the result, and you call the cause, trying to deny and refute the result itself. You're trying to convince yourself that this token didn't fall, it just had negative growth, right? In fact, the price of the coin has collapsed multiple times, no matter what reason contributed to it. You have no proof that whales exclusively did it, just blind assumption. Demand collapsed, supply increased, the token is of little interest to anyone at the moment, just like the rest of the pile of similar shitcoins claiming to be the new bitcoin. Then tell me what. Why did Bitcoin drop from $1000+ in 2013 to $150 (roughly) in 2015? There was too 2 years bear market. How do you explain this? Your comparison to the bear market of 2015 doesn't hold water because the circumstances and effects are different. The bear market affected all coins on the market at that time. However, it's quite evident that today, only EGLD is experiencing a continuous decline. Typically, that means investors are losing confidence in that particular shitcoin. BTW, Bitcoin was too declared dead back then
Bitcoin Obituaries - "Bitcoin is Dead" Declared 400+ Times |
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As we bought from one guy, he toke money and never install that script/service. We decide to share to public, including installation document. Demo : https://demoscript.online/Note - do not buy from them, when they get money , they never answer or asking more money... Good luck. For Installation Document TG - @zenXXo If you decide to make it public then the right way to do it is on github, that way the community can make it a better code. But here are some ethical problems, you should not make public the work from a developer even if you pay for the code, because if that developer wanna sell more copies then you just kill his business and all his work. If the code comes with the Installation Documentation then you should install it yourself. But I'm of the idea that talking is the right way to fix any problem, and this kind of action never end well. But good luck anyway. Well, this is more complicated than it seems at first! Looks like degika bought a casino script from swaga. But here's the thing - swaga didn't actually make the script. He resold it illegally after getting it from the real developers at phoenix-gambling! I even found a comment phoenix-gambling left a few months ago explaining the whole situation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440223.msg61782027#msg61782027They said swaga took their open source script from GitHub without permission and acted like he created it himself! Super sketchy. degika probably had no idea since swaga was acting like the legitimate creator. |
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He probably did purchase the code from me but the fact he is trying to sell it on the same forum is beyond insane.
Not to mention he did 0 changes and doesnt even have his own demo website.
OP, as far as I can see, this user is selling a script, not a website. Assuming that you designed this casino script, and as you yourself say that user degika may have bought the same one from you, you don't have much room for complaints. He bought it from you, for who knows what reasons he wants to sell it and that's his thing. Except if you don't have a specific written in the sales contract that the license is exclusively related to his name or his company and that he is not allowed to sell it on this forum. That sounds insane. If you do not want this scenario, then you should not sell the same script more than once. And, as it often turns out, this isn't the whole story. The OP himself is selling a script to which he has no rights. Here's a warning from phoenix-gambling in one of his previous threads, stating that they do not permit the resale of their script. Furthermore, the version of the script in question was never intended for public use or sale, as clearly stated on their Github repo. @swaga, as you're not the original author of the script and don't have the right to resell it, you also don't have the authority to prevent others from freely distributing it, which is precisely what degika has done now. |
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From experience there is no such a thing as "mistake" in DT's cult. It's this redundant sentence "Trust system is not moderated to avoid abuse", my favorite joke.
Would you be singing a different song if your account wasn't painted red by any chance? I mean if trust is not moderated then who are these DT members? Lol
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The tokens are still sitting in his wallet. I don't know why he didn't disburse them to bounty hunters
These are ERC20 tokens and worth ~$760 (from the above user Shishir99). I'm sure there are more than 1 thousand eligible unique addresses or close enough. This will require at least $2000 ETH as fees now if I'm correct. Possibly team hasn't shared the fees. This has happened to me too. I had to go through the same situation, being called a scammer. Anyway, Murat knows the better and he must put a few words on the case. This occurred to me, I think the only possibility him not paying to hunters he didn’t get transaction fees from client to distribute tokens. Usually in bounty campaign total addresses to distribute exceeds 10k if we include airdrop campaign too. It means client has to pay more than 10k usd in transaction fees to distribute tokens The names [murat and metropoly] rung a bell in my head. It's vague, but I think I managed to get to the bottom of it back then by talking to both sides. Simplified, the project promised 250,000 token as a bounty payment, claimed that they've sent everything to the BM, but, in fact, they only send 62,500, with the txID to back up that fact. Murat refuses to distribute the token and decide to hold them until metropoly fulfill what they promised by sending the rest of the token as promised in the beginning of the bounty.
edit: missed Rikafip's post about 25% while I take a walk down the memory lane and compose above post From what I can tell, it seems like the Metropoly people might be lying here. I mean, if there's no blockchain proof to support their side, then they're probably just making stuff up. But what surprises me is that Murat's been so quiet about all this. Youd think he'd want to clear the air publicly right? I didn't see him post anything in that old thread, and it's pretty shady that he deleted those questions on his Telegram group. I dunno, the whole thing smells fishy to me. Murat should speak up if he wants people to know his perspective and staying silent just makes him look guilty. This is some messy drama lol. I wish theyd just put all the evidence out there and settle it already. But from what I can see, Metropoly seems sus and Murat dodging questions doesn't help his case. Just my two cents as an outsider looking in. |
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OP's addressing a very common misconception that often is done by Newbie, I used to be like this too at my first time learning about crypto. I really thought that those app was where I store my Coin. I used to join multiple altcoins (erc-20) bounty campaign when the ICO boom happened, and I store all of my token in an app called IMToken, one day I buy a new phone and poof I lost all my tokens because I didn't save my private key/seed phrase.
But you could still use your IMToken wallet on your old phone, right? You wouldn't automatically lose all your tokens just because you bought a new phone, even if you didn't save your private key or seed phrase. Just fire up that old phone, and you're back in business. unless, of course, your old phone is lost or destroyed and you can no longer use it. |
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I get why people worry about their loved ones who are into crypto, what with how up and down the markets can be. It makes sense to keep in touch with your family and friends whether things are going great or the markets tanking. Gotta make sure the highs don't go to anyone's head or the lows don't bum anyone out too bad. Supporting each other is good. Your people matter more than money.
But I also agree with JeromeTash, people need to learn to deal with the consequences of their actions themselves. This aint kids' stuff we're dealing with here. Everybody's got to take responsibility for themselves and the risks they take. We can support each other, but we cant be babysitting grown folks or cleaning up their messes for them. They want to play with fire they're gonna get burned sometimes. That's just how it is.
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I also understand why you're so angry. It's very hard when your favorite coin doesn't go the way you think it should.
I also understand why you're feeling angry, but there's no need to let that anger linger over your naive mistakes. Use them as learning opportunities and continue to grow. We've all made mistakes when we were inexperienced, just like you. Just be smart and stop wasting your money on shitcoins. Like less than 15k daily users. It’s now ancient tech, and intolerably slow. It can’t scale without adaptive state sharding, which they will never implement. Other blockchains have mimicked adaptive state , more modern blockchains that are cheaper and faster, which is all that matters. TON, SOL, APT, SUI, etc etc. VENOM out of Dubai with 1B in funding otw. MEX is a complete disaster, worthless. MultiwhateverXXX app is a disaster. The new DEX Zis quite literally BEYOND COMPRESSION. Written by coders, for coders. The dapp is pretty much worthless. WHO IN THE HELL LET THAT OUT WITHOUT A BROWSER?  ? EVERY SINGLE WALLET EVER has a browser. Yes, shitcoin. Unstaked my bag a loaded up on SOL |
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Yeah, when the markets stagnate or go downhill, it can be a good chance to take some smart risks for those willing. Bored Apes and CyberPunks are indeed some of the big names in NFTs now. They've gotten a lot of attention, so it'll be cool to see how they do long term. But you gotta remember the whole NFT thing could lose steam over time like some fads before and these new markets are shaky, so smart thinking is needed with NFTs, it's wise to approach the market with a measured strategy and diversify your investments. That way you can try for the chances but also protect if things drop.
By the way, I don't think this topic is really about gambling, so maybe it's best to move it to a suitable board.
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Children get real education from parents in life. It is true that gambling parents will not learn to gamble if their children are good at everything from the beginning. There is no substitute for the love and closeness of parents in the mental development of a child. Children thrive in their lives by watching their parents when the child realizes that the parent is attracted to his gambling a negative reaction is created in his brain. If they know everything in advance they are good at creative thinking and the relationship with parents is also very friendly.
How strange it is that parents will teach everything they are good at, to their children, but they may not tell/teach their children about gambling as most parents would not want their kids to be involved in gambling. Even if the parents are good at making money through gambling, still they will want their children to stay away from gambling. Why is this behavior of the parents towards their children? and due to this reason, we never hear any child learn gambling from their parents. they usually get to know and learn about it, through their friends etc. Thats such an weird statement. It's like saying, "Even if parents are great chefs, they still want their kids to avoid cooking." Perhaps it's just a case of wanting the best for their kids and wanting to steer them away from risky stuff. After all, "Don't gamble, sweetie, the odds are stacked against you," is probably a more common refrain than, "Here's how to double down on a hard 16." |
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Hey there! Welcome to our little forum, Funarcade.  I took a peek at your site and really dig the vibe you've got going on. Lean and clean with a retro-future type of look. But we need more information about your services. I suggest that you create an announcement thread with detailed explanations. This will help the community notice your casino better. Consider upgrading to a copper membership to add pictures and enhance your posts. This will make your threads more visually appealing and attractive. |
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I've been in crypto since 2013 and also have an account on this forum from around that time. I'm posting from a new one on a purpose.
Of course, anyone can claim whatever they want, but that doesn't mean they're telling the truth. Obviously, if you've been in the crypto since 2013 as you claim, you wouldn't be saying such nonsense. If I wanted to be more credible I'd post from that account (because it's a hero member). But I want excacly the opposite - to attract the very few that will believe in the project. Something like Satoshi himself did.
Drawing a comparison to Satoshi is about as sensible as comparing a lemon to a rocket ship - unless you've actually done something as game-changing as Satoshi did. You don't just show up in some random crypto forum like "Yo whats up, I made a Bitcoin that's way better than the real thing! Now give me your money!" Nah, you gotta earn respect by doing the hard work first, not through empty claims. Satoshi put in blood sweat and tears before dropping his masterpiece on the world. Anyway, if MultiversX (stupid name, by the way) is really that advanced, maybe you can explain why it sank over 95% from ATH in a two year period? |
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
You make a good point that money is a big reason people gamble. But I also think a lotta folks just like playing the games cause they're exciting, not because of winning cash. The excitement of games can be fun even if you ain't betting. If casinos went to no-money games, I bet some people would still show up to play just for fun. So I'd say for some it's about money, but for others it's about enjoyment. Casinos would still have players if they dropped cash from the mix. |
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but I still don't understand it myself, I'm not used to poker.
I'll give you a tip, watch those poker tournaments and that will give you an idea on how to play this game. It's not going to be easy in the beginning but it's enjoyable to watch until you learn from them. Also, if you've got your own smartphone or desktop or laptop, try to play those poker games online that are for free. From doing that, you'll understand the basics of it and how the game is being played on. And when you think that you're ready to play, try to get into poker tables online in casinos that you want to do it and try it out for your personal experience. There is a big difference between live poker matches and online poker. When you're at a real table in a casino or cardroom, you get the whole experience - checking out people's body language, hearing the chips clinking taking in the environment. It's kinda like a social thing. Youre face-to-face with real opponents. But online, it's just you staring at a screen with cartoon avatars and screennames. The gameplay might be the same, but it lacks that human element and some folks dig the convenience and faster pace of Internet poker but others miss that personal interaction. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, so it comes down to personal preference. There's no right or wrong answer - just different strokes for different folks. But the thing is, if you're good at live poker, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be good at online poker, and vice versa. |
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Hi admin, is there an alternative link to access your site because it is blocked in my country, I don't want to use VPN!
According to the Nitrobetting Terms of Use: You agree to not use our services while located in any jurisdiction that prohibits the use of cryptocurrency, or prohibits placing bets online. You warrant that you are permitted in the jurisdiction in which you are located to use online sports betting services. https://nitrobetting.eu/terms-conditions/Therefore, I don't believe it is allowed to bypass country-specific restrictions when using their sports betting services. |
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