Einstein was a paid con artist. He was given an order to find a mathematical model to deceive the population.


We? Who are we? You and I? I didn't launch nothing, I didn't get to audit the launch, did you? How can you be sure it even happened? Even the fucking students who build satellites these days don't get to launch their own satellites. The hardware is sent to some space institution which gets to launch the satellite FOR THEM. Smells awfully like a man in the middle attack. So how can you trust this bullshit? I haven't been in space, I haven't been given a chance to audit NASA, therefore I discard everything they produce and label as "truth".


Yes, keep repeating what you are told. What's your point anyway? You think I don't believe in satellites? There is zero gravity up there at some point, so obviously there are satellites and those can be used for the GPS to work.


And here you make strange implication. GPS works therefore mainstream science got it all right. WTF man? And this guy is telling me that I don't understand the scientific method. Don't make me laugh.


If I have a new mathematical model of the world I don't have to do jack shit. Guess what happens if you threaten the fundamentals of the mainstream science? You get ignored, ridiculed and in worse cases even murdered. Guess how many people would have their egos shattered by a new mathematical model of the world? People will lose their jobs. The whole world is against such changes and they work together to silence any threats. The term "peer review" is a joke because all those peers only acknowledge science that does not conflict with their own understandings and they will criticise everything that threatens their description of the world. This is how human mind operates. It's called egomania and it's a collective sickness of the whole man kind.


I'm referring to the Sagnac effect which allows getting rid of the mechanical components of the gyroscope. Do I trust it? No, but I would be interested to know the results of those measurements. I don't trust it because I don't fully understand ether and whether ether itself revolves with Earth or not.


Of course I have looked it up and it's definitely interesting, but I see you itch so hard on making fun of me by stating this "not publicly available" bullshit that I don't even know if I have anything to discuss with you. The problem with the pendulum is that it doesn't allow me to determine the curvature of Earth, it just appears to demonstrate rotation but I wouldn't say it proves it yet since revolving could also be caused by the movement of ether rather than the Earth itself.

Assuming that gravity as a force exists at all. I cannot stand such assumptions. We know nothing about gravity, even the top scientists themselves admit it, so why talk about the invisible dragon in someone's garage in the first place?

IMO gravity is not a force after all. It's just a physical effect caused by something that is yet to be known. I have constructed a simple computer simulation where gravity is caused by the equal and simultaneous expansion of all the atomic particles in the universe. Credits go to my brother though since he saw this concept in his dreams.

Here's my simulation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2opz-6HWro

And interestingly here's someone else's simulation of the very same concept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QboDTgped1E

I'm not overthrowing all of physics. Just the parts that can have potentially originated from foul and corrupt sources.

As for mr. Reptile and his thread, he started the flat earth and dreaming fork, so why complain about the consequences?


So what? GPS can perfectly function in the concave and even flat earth model. It doesn't prove shit. What I am interested in though is the gyroscope capability of the modern smartphones. With a gyroscope it is theoretically possible to determine the curvature of the Earth and even verify if the Earth is revolving or not.

It's not about believing in anything!!!! When do you people understand that this is not about believing. The word "believe" is an utterly bad word and should be avoided at all cost. I don't give a shit what you believe. If you believe in god or in the flat earth model. What I give shit about is uncensored information, true evidence and honest knowledge.


Here's your tomb stone, the above quote. So just because you know how to paraphrase "me disagreeing with you without any arguments backing it up" in the English language you think you have made a point? Or even worse, you think you have discarded the concave earth theory?

Let me use your strategy. I'm going to say this:
The convex earth premise by itself is almost certainly another terribly inadequate model of how our world works and unfortunately its simplicity requires too much magic making in the brain.

So, that said, the Earth is definitely not convex and any research on the matter should be stopped immediately because it is just stupid. Why do you people even say stuff like that? It just shows your expectation bias which has absolutely no objective value to anyone. You could as well as say that you believe in god and dare everyone else to debunk the existence of god. It's dumb. Stop it.


concave or not, there's one thing for sure: WE DON'T KNOW what the shape of the Earth is. There's not enough publicly available evidence to even support the Copernicus'es model. The important question is --- why are we being deceived and who is deceiving us?



So here's your problem, you think you're so smart that you don't even bother to read my references. Here's one from
http://www.skepticfiles.org/ufo1/theory.htm



So I looked it up what you meant by quack. It pretty much says "believe what you are told and don't ask questions, the authority is always right and if you don't agree with the authority then you are a crackpot"

What a dumb shit to say in hope of trying to silence the truth seekers.

Just because you are an astrophysicist doesn't mean you know anything about the shape of the Earth. You observe the stars, right? Not Earth -- stars. So how can you tell such a story? It's just a bunch of assumptions. If you truly were a proper scientist you would understand that. You don't know how the universe operates, stop making dumb assumptions.


http://www.skepticfiles.org/ufo1/theory.htm

What if the universe is surrounded by Earth and the farther away from earth you go the smaller you shrink? Yeah it may sound weird to us due to our expectation bias brainwashed into us by the public education but it is a possibility. And guess what, ALL THE MATH WOULD STILL WORK OUT. You could still do your astrophysics and you wouldn't see a difference. Come one, did I really have to tell you this? Why is it that you cannot come to the same conclusion on your own? This is how strictly you are thinking INSIDE THE BOX.

I'm not trolling. I'm simply not assuming anything taught by the public education system to be true or false. I look at the problem without any expectation bias at all. All I wanted to say was that there is one experiment that could settle the flat/concave/convex Earth debate once and for all --- and this experiment is the rectilineator experiment. Just draw a god damn straight line and compare it with the curvature of the Earth. It's the most robust and clear experiment we can do. It doesn't require any assumptions regarding properties of ether and light. It does assume that the space is not bent, however. But I thought that if the space itself is warped and bent somehow then the whole universe is just so bizarre that I would be better off not trying to understand it  

and here's the most common pitfall to understanding the concave earth theory, you just said it.

The biggest deception is light itself. Namely the properties of light. Here's a kicker: in vacuum light does not travel in straight lines. Instead, light bends along the concave curvature of the Earth itself, making it seem as if the horizon was flat while it really is not. That's why we must discard all experiments utilizing light --- because we cannot trust light. There is plenty of evidence for the bending light theory, there's even science grade proof that is carefully kept away from the public education.

As mr. reptile said above "satan is deception". since satan = lucifer = bringer of light, light cannot be trusted. Light can be used for deception. This is why all the new age religion bullshit is utter and total bullshit --- it always speaks of light as something good while in reality light is all about deception.

And if that was not enough to convince you, here's a photo of the military using telescopes in war:


Why on Earth are the telescopes pointed upwards instead of straight towards the horizon?

what does that suppose to mean? we all know that there are worrying religious aspects to science in general and universities are funded to enforce those religious aspects. Just because some places on Earth put out lava from volcanoes does not mean the whole Earth is filled with it. Simple logic.


Intellectually sound? Don't make me laugh. There is no better experiment than the rectilineator because unlike other experiments that rely on the hypothetical properties of ether or observations that heavily depend on the properties of light, the rectilineator only depends on the properties of matter itself. If you don't understand the experiment then you simply didn't bother to even look at it, which makes you no better than the rest of the sheeple cuckooing whatever is told to them in the media and by the public education system.

It means everyone will double their bitcoins. One copy of their stash for one fork and another copy for the other fork. So, more bitcoins for everyone bullish as fuck

I don't believe in a magma filled ball Earth theory either. It simply has too many holes in it. When was the last time Copernicus'es model was proven with a physics experiment? It's funny how they demand you to prove your theory but refuse to prove theirs. I would love to see the convex Earth believers prove their theory. I don't care what the truth is as long as it is the truth. Yes Earth could be convex but in that case, show me the scientifically rigorous proof. The only proof that absolutely every person on Earth could verify on their own is the rectilineator experiment. The rectilineator experiment does not require expensive high tech equipment and in nature it is so simple that you only need common sense to understand how it works. It's suspicious why this experiment has only been conducted once in the history of man kind, having its results hidden from the public.

A good read indeed. I've always suspected that the tensions between the US and Russia are just a played act.

I also had a strange dream last night. I was astral travelling and I got to see beautiful landscapes while some force was pulling me through the air. But then the dream turned into a normal non-lucid dream where I got to teleport to Moon. For the first time in my entire life I went to the Moon while dreaming. And guess what?! The Moon wasn't spherical at all. The moon was actually shaped like a really large plate or a satellite dish turned to Earth.

Yes you are totally right because elite coders and computer guys know such things by nature. They don't even have to read the whitepaper and stuff like that, THEY JUST KNOW STUFF.

Can bitcoin mining ASICs be used to mine VNL?

You still don't get it, do you? You are still thinking that the argument is about me not respecting old people or something like that? And now you introduce my parents into the equation. You know what, your mama is so stupid she puts lipstick on her head to make up her mind. 

You have no guarantee that you live to see the next day. How on Earth can you then think that you would become 50 at some time? Don't cheat yourself into believing that you're immortal and that you have all the time in the world, when in reality, you have no guarantee at all. This could be your last day on Earth. It changes a lot when you realize that you have absolutely no time at all. You have to make your every action count.

Congratulations for having a thick skin. I hate the political correctness too so I rebel against it. I don't want to be always taken seriously. I want people to use their common sense and judge when I should be taken seriously and when not. Or what parts of my messages should be taken seriously. The naked star wars character with a gas mask is actually me, it has nothing to do with starwars. I honestly don't give a fuck about people who have problems with this, in fact I enjoy smearing it into their faces by being as controversial as possible. You see, I can be and act very reasonably when required, so a lot of people who think they know me by my looks and attitude are often times shocked when they see that they were so wrong because of their stereotypical thinking.

Also, it's a common misconception that people think that they should be liked by everybody. You can't be liked by everybody, it's an impossible task and the sooner you discover it the better for you. And there is nothing bad with disliking some people or being disliked by some people as long as you don't take it too seriously. It's all an act of folly anyway. We have come here to experience existence as human beings. So we all pretend to be human beings. The problem with the most of us is, however, that we believe our own act to be real.


I don't automatically respect any person/authority who thinks they are so important that they should be respected by default. If you look back to my first post in this thread, you can see that it was you (the naggers) who kept kicking the can down the road with me and I was happy to cooperate. It could have ended with a quick explanation that John is not a scammer and the reddit thread is actually a deliberate FUD. But no, you had to start forcing me into the "guy didn't get hired and is now angry" box. Since you assumed me to be angry and up for revenge, you (not you personally but the other dudes) immediately interpreted my jokes as assaults.

The lesson: don't assume shit about people you know nothing about. You see my profile picture and you already think you know who I am, or even worse ---- my user name. And then you come with the political correctness as if your own actions weren't based on stereotypical thinking (which is racist). Hypocrisy much.


I don't assume that people like to be addressed as 'fucks'. If I knew they liked it I wouldn't do it because it's obviously not meant to establish my presence as a friendly faggot. Feel free to think of me as the autistic fuck I kind of like it actually. For the record, your description of me as a loud-mouth tourist is very accurate. Although I hate travelling I have no moral boundaries when it comes to social constructs and politeness. People are so god damn pussies nowadays. They get offended by anything. I want it to stop, because it's not funny, it makes the world a sad place. So I do what I can to be a good role model for the thick skinned society where I'd like to live in. The reason for that is that a thick skinned society is much more fun and I like fun. World should be a joyful place where people don't get butthurt over the slightest joke that was made on them.

If I was an old person, I'd make fun of it, not get offended by it when a youngster refers to me as an 'old fuck'. Yes, I'd make fun of myself. I'd say something like "hey quiet down you brat, and get off my lawn!" as a response to being referred to as an old fuck. Can't you see, it's all a giant folly to begin with. The old people vs the young people game. The gays vs the hererosexuals. Men vs women. If you become insensitive to these games you'd become a stone buddha --- without any feelings, desires and emotions. So the trick is to play along with the folly and practise it in a controlled way. Your life will be joyous, full of laughter and you will get to keep your human emotions.

Ok this is getting old and boring already. For the record, I have nothing against old guys. Just because I sometimes refer to them as old fucks doesn't mean shit. I also refer to fat guys as fat fucks and overly moral people as moralfags. It's a figure of speech and does not reflect any personal rage against old or fat people. But it is funny to see how people sometimes think otherwise and start defending "their kind".

Great post, at least someone here interpreted my posts the way it was meant to. And congratulations for beating the system. Feels good, doesn't it? You're a happy man, I can see it. I'm also a happy man. Young and happy. But the old dudes, they don't surprise me at all.

Do you guys ever make jokes and troll for fun? You're so serious you're scaring me. I mean you're dead serious. With one leg in the grave already and what not like for real, 50 years old? No wonder we have complications. I guess I'd better hold my horses or mr. grandpa here could get a heart attack. Someone should put a warning sign somewhere here stating "CAUTION: ELDERLY PEOPLE" 

I should quit coding? Don't make me laugh. I wrote my first program at the age of 5 and I made my first video game at the age of 12. I have born to be a programmer. Get over with your second mid life crisis, you old fart. It's way too obvious. You're so old you can't even communicate with younger people any more without getting pissed off. Go back to the old folks' home, grandpa. I bought shit load of bitcoins when they costed 4$ each. Of course I keep anticipating their value growing even higher. I'm already living good life thanks to it but if they continue to grow like that I can retire before 30.

What can I say, I'm a man of many talents. Of course I could do well in the entertainment industry, but it doesn't mean I have to do it. For some reason programming is what I enjoy the most. I gave you many chances to give me a proper welcome in this community and yet I can see only hostile reactions (except the poster who actually welcomed me here, he's a cool dude). I guess I'm in the context of shit and on a sinking boat.