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741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: July 12, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
In the long run, you would always lose when you are the gambler. There is simply no way for the gambler to keep on winning forever without ridiculous luck. I would recommend using Primedice if you ever need to gamble.

Investing in gambling sites is IMO, the best way to make stable and close to risk free profits over time. Investments are almost always garunteed to make at least the profit of the house edge. However, in the short term, whales can always wipe part of the bankroll off. The rate of profit would be largely based on the wager volume. Moneypot.com is IMO, quite trusted and has a decent wagering volume.
Indeed. Playing in gambling sites or gamble will not really help you to become rich and it will make your life worst and so that try to invest you bitcoin in any investment sites or trading sites that you can a sure that your money or bitcoin will come back. Gambling doesn’t make you rich but investing will make millionaire in the future.
The risk is common in both gambling and investing, but I am also suggesting you invest on any good website. If you invest more money, then it is profitable. Becasue in small investment capital will not give much profit. Gambling I can not give assurance that you will make money. This is 50 - 50 chance you can make money or you will lose your money. So best choose investment and make money.
742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 12, 2017, 05:19:08 PM
I think, Djokovic and Federar will face at semifinal, hopefully Federar will face Andy Murray at Final. I had a prediction that if Rozar federar will win this Wimbledon then you will retire from tennis. But his strong challenge will be against Djokovic. If Rozar will be able to reach at Final then he will certainly will win this tournament.
Murray is out of the tournament as Querry beats him in 5 sets Smiley Djokovic need to get past Berdych first which I am guessing will be an amazing quater-finals. Roger looking strong against Roanic and looks like he will take the revenge.

Clamorous defeat for Murray against Querrey. He lost inexplicably the last 2 sets 6-1.
No one would have imagined a semifinal between Cilic and Querrey.
God, what happened this time all my expectations are going wrong. Murray, i did not expect that he will come finals. But I was expected N. Djokovic would come, but he lost first set, and in the 2nd set he took retired and out from this tournament. Now only one hope Federer he is still playing he won 2 sets the last set is going on I think he will win this set. Now, who will play in finals is a big question mark.
743  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: July 11, 2017, 05:28:00 PM
There are many people who lost their money on trading, because trading is unpredictable job, in my opinion i need:
Method ( i must have system trading)
Money ( i must have management of money and risk)
Mind ( i must can control my emotion)
Tell me your opinions?

Good opinion!  Wink
Additional:
Courage to start trading | Will be futile if you have 3 points above without any courage to start.  Wink
All that is written are necessary and they should work together because any factor missing on the list will
still result a failure in trading. This is not like a game therefore it should be taken seriously like a regular job.
Yes we need more dedication in trading to make money, or else it will give us a huge loss in short time. That is why we should treat trading is our regular job, and we have to spend more time. Then only we will learn everything about trading, and we will get to know the latest updates on the market. Trading is unpredictable, but it is profitable. 
744  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: July 11, 2017, 05:24:08 PM
I'm dealing with my loss. Actually I don't have loss in trading or selling bitcoin. Because I entered bitcoin when the price was not still getting to $1,000.
So there's nothing to regret if I ever sell bitcoin lower than $2,500 but higher than $2,000. It's already a profit for me so there's no need to deal with loss.
The time is not always the same bro, your good luck you never got to deal with your loss, but in future, it may come. But in trading, we can control our loss with our patience. Only the panic sellers will get more loss in trading apart from the normal traders will wait right time to sell and make money. 
745  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do I hold? on: July 11, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
Sometimes I will sell and buy back in lower price, but look at current situation I will wait untill end of this month or more, still trading when loss just make my situation worst.
Yeah, trade at now very bad, we not know when is lowest price can buy or when we sell this coin, it will recovery and reverse Angry
This is not right to make the trade. But this is a good time to collect more coins for future purpose. Not only bitcoin all other altcoin prices also went down, and it's still falling. If you wait one more week, I think the price still go down, and that is the best time to buy coins. At present don't sell any coin hold it in your wallet.
746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: July 11, 2017, 05:15:50 PM
West Indies women's team have put up a wonderful score against Pakistan right now and looking for it's second victory. Pakistan haven't won even a single game till now and 286 is a difficult target for them.
And they won't win this one too Smiley Their strength ( when compared ) is their bowling and they haven't done well in that so I think they are gonna loose this one too . They gotto do something , not winning even one match in a big tournament is not something which can be accepted by their fans .

Even though their male team are good, muslim countries have a poor female team. And they hardly have any fans in their countries.
They are just playing because there are not enough female teams to play with. Sad

Bad luck for Pakistan because the rain interrupted play and the match reduced to 38 overs. Right now the play stopped don't know what happen it will continue or stop. Pakistan women need 128 runs in 84 balls and 7 wickets in hand. They made 117/3 runs from 24 overs. So with remaining 7 wickets, i think they not able to chase this score. So WIW will this match.
747  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 10, 2017, 12:42:38 PM
If you are not investment type and don't want to risk that way there are some ways for you to earn Bitcoins. Sell your skills and knowledge for some coins, put your profile.on some freelance web page, join the signature campaign on forum and try your luck with gambling if you want some adrenaline too.
What you said everything is right, and this is how we can earn bitcoins. But your last statement is not a good method to earn bitcoins. To gamble, we have to invest some money, and it is a good way to earn bitcoins. Here you have more chance to lose your investment. So apart from this, you can try other methods to collect bitcoins.
748  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will people start moving their savings to Bitcoin in case of a financial crash? on: July 10, 2017, 12:31:49 PM
Probably that's one way to put it but I doubt that will happen any time soon or if it'll happen as what the post was about it will affect a lot of things. And if America's financial crashes down, a lot of countries will be affected and I'm sure bitcoin will also be affected. And maybe if that time comes, some investors might consider putting their savings in Bitcoin. It is a great option especially for investors to put their money into bitcoin.
Just crashing one country financial system will not affect the entire world. And yes I agree if American financial system crashes it will effect on other countries who depend on America and also bitcoin but not much. But I don't think all investors will show interest in bitcoin when this situation arrives in America maybe they will find other better solution for this issue.  
749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: July 10, 2017, 12:20:58 PM
I have to set limit for myself as I have learnt a painful experience. I previously have try to rely on people prediction and it has started worked out quite well at the start. However, things start to take a turn and i end up trying to cover back my losses. So end up i bet more and more cause i believe that i will start winning after so many consecutive losses. End up i lost even more.
This is quite natural in gambling believing our trust and skills and playing again to get back our loss finally we end with the big loss. To avoiding this big loss, we must fix one amount before playing gambling. We have to fix for both win and loss limit. And when you follow this method genuinely you will start to get a positive result in gambling.  
750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 10, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
I am not really a fan of superstition but it is always safer to follow these rules when you talk about gambling. One of the example is eating sushi before you gamble because the sound of sushi sound similar to lose to ''death''.
In other matter normally people not believe in this Superstition. But in gambling people trust this Superstition more than their skill set. I will not trust this Superstition but sometimes the time and game result will make me trust the gambling will run based on Superstition.
751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could possibly go wrong? Please, tell me :) on: July 10, 2017, 12:07:57 PM
--snipped--

Well I play poker in computer sometimes and poker requires some skill and luck in able to draw your best game out there. Like everyone's asking here what programming language did you use? We understand that if what you're thinking is " its not yet complete or its not that good ", then let us try the program. Its hard to give feedback if we don't experienced the program, and if you are worried about "what if someone stole your program and idea" then give us more detailed details in your project. Good luck.

I would love to let you try the program ! However, it would require a lot of effort from me, and too much (i assume) Python knowledge from you as well.

As tspacepilot accurately states though, i shared the language i used and the essential modules.

If you read the entire thread thoroughly and you have programming skills, you should easily be able to replicate, and perhaps even improve, what I am doing. It is quite simple actually, well, the idea is at least.

To those who might be interested:

After a lot of up and downs, with a peak balance of 0.0425 BTC, my poker balance is now 0.

I am not too worried that it's an indication of failure though.. After all, what happens if you open a casino with insufficient bankroll?

I am tempted to see how a full BTC fares, but I dont have that kind of trust in my own code.. Smiley

For now, I am using parts of my code to assist in "manual" poker.

I think the code will work though I am not a professional coder but I have dabbled a bit with it on my studies on college and I think the code will work with its simulations and its reading of the cards not sure tho whether it might be profitable in the long run.
It should do work but the main question is for how long? I do see the strategy is pretty interesting and simple to understand but chances of being busted is always there that is why I don't trust any codes which do someone claims that it works. Manual poker would be always be the best.
This kind of strategies will work when we are implementing the first time, and while testing this approach, it will work out. But not always. Once or twice we will win our bet. It maybe the strategy will help us to win our bet or our luck anyone will help us. But I think it will not work for long term. I am not underestimating his work I am just telling the fact in the game. I wish you all the best and get a good result in this project.
752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people are asking you about Bitcoin now? on: July 06, 2017, 01:05:39 PM
These past few months I have been talking a lot about Bitcoin and Ethereum at work. There are some working groups at my work place working with blockchain technology and the BTC and ETH blockchain implementations have been used as case studies. Of course, our engineers are working building private blockchains, but while in the process some got personally interested in BTC and ETH and have bought/mined some for themselves.
You got a good crew mate, and you don't need to google to know about Bitcoins news. Your group will explain you everything what is going to happen in bitcoin and ETH. It is good news that your engineers are also working for private blockchains. If any new news you heard from your crew you, please share with us, it will be helpful for us to next step in bitcoin.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Will mining profitability keep going down, or will it stop - or increase? on: July 06, 2017, 12:54:45 PM
One year ago I was obtained 0.5 eth daily for one rig. Now the daily revenue is much less but the profitability is much higher. I think that after 1 year the profitability will be lower, like bitcoin case because many miners are coming daily.
Yes many people are entering into the mining field, and all people know now the Bitcoin mining is very tough so the next choice is eth or zcash or monero. Some people are started to do dual mining. So how the competition is increase like that the profitability also decrease. Now how bitcoin miners shifted to ETH like that next year, some other new currency will come we have to shift that currency.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Recommend the altcoin for mining. on: July 06, 2017, 10:00:45 AM
I has 2 GPUs.(GTX 1070)

Please recommend the altcoins for mining.

I seen the whattomine, but I don't know what i mine.

Thanks.
Don't go for high difficulties mining altcoin. if you choose ETH, ZCASH or Monero, you will not be able to make a good profit. These coins are good to mine, but you should buy some GPUs. Atleast you can able to setup 6 GPUs rig then you can make a decent profit.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best GPU's For Mining? on: July 06, 2017, 09:55:25 AM
well i used to be a miner back in 2012-2013 with r290 and gave up when bitcoin drops around $200.I now have 2x980gtx watercooled and would like to know which coin to mine?

anything equihash, LBC is good on Nvidia as well. Neoscrypt, oh shit there 10 algos, and 100 coins highly profitable for you to mine right now with those Cheesy
I would suggest LBC its a great price and a solid coin.

As far as the best cards to mine, 1070's are still best price performance, but DENSITY and RESALE matter too imo. I am going all 1080ti, the ti models of cards always seem to hold value, damn a 980ti is STILL high price new Smiley
unless you WANT to upgrade every 3 months and fight over supply in the streets, buy big bad ass cards imo
I could hold my top of the line 1080ti's for a year  and 5+ ROI's and still get 75% value for them easy i bet


I agree with that. 1080ti is better.

Maybe this is the highest rate card we have right now, and this is the latest version and made only for mining purpose. This cost the normal people can't bare. What is the exact hash rate for this card? And what is the price in your country? I asked in my place here it's still not yet came and if it comes also, i can't afford that money. 
756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 04, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
Just 5 more hours for Wimbledon to start Smiley Can't wait . I went for Federer to win the tournament because Sportsbet provided 5 odds and I think its really worth to take it . The big 4 is seeded top 4 in this tournament followed by Wawrinka .
I am not sure you picked right person or not. But he has the capability to win this big event. I am not 100% sure but I have 70% confidence that he will win this title. You may get surprised from Nadal at the end of the tournament so be ready to take any result at the end of the tournament.
I agree with you completely . I have placed some chips on Nadal to reach finals actually , I couldn't resist but bet on Federer because of that impressive odds . Lets see how it goes Smiley I would be more than happy to see Nadal winning the tournament .
The expectation is high on these two top class players but doesn't know whether they will make our hope true or they will disappoint us in the middle of the tournament. Today already we got one surprise Nick  Kyrgios retired against Herbert. I think if he plays the full game also he may lose this match because he lost 1st 2 sets. Don't know what surprise we have in tomorrow matches.
Another upset .. Top player like Stan Wawrinka lost to Daniil Medvedev 1-3 (4-6, 6-3, 4-6, 1-6) lol Stan playing like rank 300+ player Cheesy

Yes, incredible and unexpected defeat for Wawrinka!
If Federer wins Wimbledon, there will be fab4 (Murray, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic) in the top 4 positions in the ranking atp!

Never expected Wawrinka defeat so early. just now tournament started already 2 top rank players out from this tournament. Kyrgios and Wawrinka. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic will reach semifinals, and the 4th player Murray will come, or else another young player will replace his place. Now this tournament is getting interesting.
757  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: July 04, 2017, 05:47:44 PM
Gambling sometimes helps my financial condition. Several times, when i really need money for example $200 when i only have $20 then i will gamble. Though not always winning, but at least helping me through when emergency.
When you need urgent money will you get it from gambling? This is crazy man. What you will do suppose if you lost your $20 how you will manage to get your money. I think this is a bad idea you expect money from gambling. I don't know hows your personal experience in gambling maybe you made money. But most of the time we will lose money in gambling.
758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: July 04, 2017, 05:44:09 PM
I dont usually set a specific time when i gamble. I just feel like i want to spend some time playing but usually since i do have a work now it is on weekend evening when im at hime alone
but i have a specific time for gambling. i mostly play gambling in late evening time,  in fact i am so much addicted that when it become my gambling then  i cannot manage to spend single minute in any other activity and try to go to casino, or at least play it online.

That's a very dangerous road you're treading there dude. That addiction may lead to things much worse that just craving for gambling every day. It usually starts with that small time that you allot for gambling then it grows to require more of your time until you crave for it most of the time everyday.

I think this is the end stage of addiction. you will not get sleep without playing gambling is to the worst situation. You must realise this now only and try to cut your regular play. Otherwise, i think it will ruin your life. I don't know what to say about this kind of gamblers because they will not give importance to anyone except gambling.
759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: July 04, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
Controlling yourself, it is hard of course but that's the method, You can also go to a helping website for gamblers (just check any gambling website for "help"), if it helps you to have people you can talk to.

This is forum is already a helping place for gamblers that wants to quit gambling. He just need to take those helpful experiences from the members here and he needs also to encourage himself in able to quit gambling for good. It will not be easy in the beginning but if you can do it gradually that's going to be a success.

Yeah, sure this forum is helpful for addicted gamblers. Also i could guess now new gamblers are very carefully playing and conscious about betting and try to save themselves from lose. But also weak minded gamblers always do mistake, even they know that addiction. We could only give them suggestion and also give them helpful opinion, but we couldn't change their life if they are not understand it.     

Before entering bitcoin gambling world people first visit this bitcoin talk forum to check which is a good site to play. In that time they read comments regarding gambling addiction, but after reading those comments also people play gambling. Some people will test their luck in gambling, but later they will addict to gambling. You have control of your mind then you can do anything. 
760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Many Casinos Are There in Your Country? on: July 04, 2017, 05:32:51 PM
We have 2 big casino in my country. Not a huge country so 2 casino is already considered a lot provided the space is very limited in my country. The funny thing is that our government 20 years ago say that they wont build casino, but now we alrdy have 2.
This show us that the word of governments is worth nothing, as long as they think they can make money with an idea they are going to go with it, just to keep filling their pockets with ill gained profits, this is why I always urge people to not be so naive when it comes to government approval of bitcoin, at some point governments are going to realize they are losing money with it and then they will take actions.
All governments will give permission to real casinos because the income from the real casino is huge, but they not give permission to more casinos in the same place. It should be limited then only the casinos can make money and the govt will get money from casino owners. In my country, one guy took permission to run his online gambling site legally, and he is paying 50% tax to govt.
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