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781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 15, 2017, 04:51:01 PM
Alright!
So I finally got the multi address cold stake running.
Currently I've got 4 different accounts open and staking!
And I have a separate keys loaded on 2 separate computers!
So I'm literally cold-multi-staking    Cheesy  

I can't wait for the exchanges to jump on board. I'd love to see the day that exchanges will act as BitBay mining pools where traders accounts will be earning coins while they wait for their sell orders to get hit!

I'm not for holding lots of coins on exchanges for long periods of time, but no matter the risk, people will have coins on the exchanges.

These are supposed to be safe in cold storage. So why not earn coins while they are STILL in cold storage? Roll Eyes

My problem is I don't use desktop much. Everything is through my phone so I can't stake unless I use VPS.

Well there again, I don't believe in holding coins on an exchange for any long period of time.

But in your case, it would be perfect if/when the exchanges decided to cold stake the IOU wallets.

I wish there were more options for users that are strickly phone based. But sadly, a mobile BitBay Client is not even on the "drawing board" yet.











David is snowed under with the work we have now I know. However porting to a mobile version ....is this possible by a 3rd party without giving them the source? I mean is this something we could group fund for another coder to do whilst david is doing the peg etc?

So like the android/ios version just connects to the main net of bay? on top of it without that coder needing source access?

I discussed this with Meta recently. A mobile version of Halo would require a rewrite of Halo completely and thus millions of dollars. I would probably have to at least project manage that or spec out a lot of the ideas and give the sections of source code needed and the solutions to the non-trivial problems of a cellphone app. With that said, someone can find an investor who wants to buy rights to a mobile app... they just need to realize I'm not going to be in a golden cage. I can help show them what needs to be done and can negotiate how they can make a good return off the app purchases and other things but it will be up to them to push it or we would need to find a manager who is willing to throw a few years of his life into it. And I think the money needed for that would be in the multi-millions. It could net a tremendous amount of profit though... so it's always something to keep in the back of our minds. Meta was under the opinion that it would be the catalyst to take BitBay to the top 5.
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 15, 2017, 04:45:38 PM
Hi Just wondering what the reason is that no darknet items aren't allowed on bitbay?

I'm checking out bitbay and its interesting, advanced blockchain tech yes, but potentially a big success with 1000s of users?  I'm not sure.  Maybe.

For westerners its clearly better just to use Amazon or eBay, they work, they are reliable and sure there are some fees but clearly not enough to bother people.  That is unless its a darknet item.  I could see bitbay being a success in the west if used for that but it says in the client that is not allowed.

As for it being used by people in third world countries who are blocked from amazon + eBay, there is still the disadvantage of having to sync the blockchain, as well as learn how to use it (its a bit more complicated than buying from a regular website), but it is no doubt useful there.

Also if there is only 1 (great) developer and no marketing budget how will word spread?  Marketing is clearly an issue at the moment.

Not trying to be negative, just casting a critical eye to the project as I consider it as an investment.  

Also how long before the other smart contract options are available, like "find a job" or "hire someone"? They look useful.

If there was a web-client with no download required and no syncing, just smart contracts on a website that would be very usable.

Also why is there nothing at all in the market?

Still I remain interested in bitbay.  Look forward to replies.  

Thanks.





Okay so there is so much to mention here...

First off the reason why it's not Darknet is because I'm not anonymous and I'm trying to reach a wider audience. With that said, this is probably the perfect "Darknet" market... its what Shadowcash is attempting and we've been done with it over a year with much more features especially hard core security ones to boot. Their markets don't even exist yet and they got the idea of double deposit from Halo. I even remember when VeritasBS tried to reverse engineer my code because I refused to work on his coin. There was a funny dispute on reddit about that years ago. The only thing BitBay doesn't have is anonymous transactions like Monero. Bitmessage is completely anonymous though and I've discussed with a security expert and he thinks Bitmessage might be more anonymous than Tor (due to control of exit nodes attack on Tor).

The power of double deposit escrow and pegging are a million times more powerful than some small dark market in the corner of the internet. This is tech that can truly change the world for the better. I've fallen in love with double deposit ever since I had the idea 4 years ago.

The news already did an article on my markets and I think this article explains it best:
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/this-decentralized-bitcoin-market-is-for-legal-stuff-only

I'm a freedom lover and want to free people. But this means freeing people who don't realize they need to be freed. Average everyday consumers, the ones whose souls need it the most. Double deposit escrow is the PERFECT tool to eliminate deception from society. 2 party trustless double deposit escrow is why I've worked 4 years straight in Bitcoin as a dev on Halo.

So I will then ask you, don't you see the value in the unbreakable contracts?

You claim that Ebay and Amazon are so much better, but have you considered the sellers can send you an empty box and complain and reverse paypal payments? And what about Freelancer and Elance? Are you aware they can lie about their credentials and pad their hours and do poor work? And what about the fees middle men collect? And there is tons of other kinds of contracts. Everything in society is based on agreement. We have solved agreement which is a major piece of the puzzle. And the rolling peg is the beginning of the solution to the economy aspect (supply/demand).

Sure you can find more items on Ebay and Amazon but we have already discussed reselling E-bay items on the Bitbay markets by forwarding shipping. Middle men must be eliminated from society once and for all it is a bad foundation for any contract. The only people who should be judge, jury and executioner of a contract are the two parties themselves. Any addition of a third party destroys the truth and freedom of the deal. If the root of the tree is bad, the leaves perish. We are planting a NEW TREE. This tree is designed to be healthy and bear fruit. Do you really think this coin won't be huge in the future? Look at what it does.

Deception is not possible in BitBay. The deposits are placed by both sides so they MUST be honest or lose their deposits! How can I limit this important concept to a small subsection of the internet?

Just so you know, we have the moderation key but Bitmessage is practically a decentralized internet... so we can't know about every market that exists there. We moderate the ones we know about.

I'm aware I'm not liable for the "internet" and cannot possibly prevent how people use the software nor do I want to nor am I legally obligated to(I'm just an open source dev). But still we are looking to reach a much bigger audience.

I've done a big initiative to market recently and it was a big distraction from work. We have published tons of articles over the past month including a paid PR campaign. But that means I'm editing interviews, articles and managing community and it is as you say impossible to do that and code. Happily, the slack and bitcoin talk group is probably one of the best and tight knit in all of crypto. These guys are there to test and constantly give enthusiasm to the project.

As for the synchronization that can eventually be solved by having the client look up the balance on chainz. But for now it downloads the blockchain. With that said BitHalo does not download the chain and uses the method i just described.

The Cash for Coins templates work. The rest of the templates are coming very soon. For now you can still hire people using the custom template.

As for orders there was always about 10 or so on the markets you have to wait for the markets to sync it can take hours. Also i think most of the orders are pulled waiting for the updated build on the 22nd.

And I don't think you were being negative, those are very cutting edge questions that need to be asked.

783  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 15, 2017, 05:16:36 AM
Is it worth us getting on bittylicious so people can get bay directly with cc ?

I would definitely welcome that.  I have used Bittylicious a lot, and would love to be able to buy BAY on there.  Smiley

You can buy BAY with cash on the markets themselves using unbreakable contracts and DDE. Its much safer because there are no chargebacks and the seller must release bay because of double deposit and two-party escrow.

I think we should make a guide for this specifically for those new to bay from outside crypto.

If we are thinking of getting bay to a wider audience we should be garnering support from those outside of this sphere as much as possible.

Nearly got a reasonable btc whale interested in bay but turned me down for another project. I think he is making the wrong choice but whales do what they want I guess.



What about our training videos?

https://youtu.be/HrXUZRGd1hE?list=PLILfNPSQCo6yjFiwXY6-C-ikIDs6v2nHU


They are excellent and I have seen quite a few which were very very good.

I haven't seen the one for setting up the cash for bay one.

This is the one...https://youtu.be/aL2e8FniDWg

but for those new to bay coming to get some bay for the first time I would  rather not do a guarantor one. Better to let the buy take the risk and I'll rely on my rep as a great seller on the marketplace to encourage them to go first.



You as a seller can set a custom deposit close to zero but still if they don't hold Bay you are forced to take some risk. You can do kyc.
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 15, 2017, 12:32:49 AM
Is it worth us getting on bittylicious so people can get bay directly with cc ?

I would definitely welcome that.  I have used Bittylicious a lot, and would love to be able to buy BAY on there.  Smiley

You can buy BAY with cash on the markets themselves using unbreakable contracts and DDE. Its much safer because there are no chargebacks and the seller must release bay because of double deposit and two-party escrow.

I think we should make a guide for this specifically for those new to bay from outside crypto.

If we are thinking of getting bay to a wider audience we should be garnering support from those outside of this sphere as much as possible.

Nearly got a reasonable btc whale interested in bay but turned me down for another project. I think he is making the wrong choice but whales do what they want I guess.



What about our training videos?

https://youtu.be/HrXUZRGd1hE?list=PLILfNPSQCo6yjFiwXY6-C-ikIDs6v2nHU


They are excellent and I have seen quite a few which were very very good.

I haven't seen the one for setting up the cash for bay one.

This is the one...https://youtu.be/aL2e8FniDWg
785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 15, 2017, 12:25:41 AM
Is it worth us getting on bittylicious so people can get bay directly with cc ?

I would definitely welcome that.  I have used Bittylicious a lot, and would love to be able to buy BAY on there.  Smiley

You can buy BAY with cash on the markets themselves using unbreakable contracts and DDE. Its much safer because there are no chargebacks and the seller must release bay because of double deposit and two-party escrow.

I think we should make a guide for this specifically for those new to bay from outside crypto.

If we are thinking of getting bay to a wider audience we should be garnering support from those outside of this sphere as much as possible.

Nearly got a reasonable btc whale interested in bay but turned me down for another project. I think he is making the wrong choice but whales do what they want I guess.



What about our training videos?

https://youtu.be/HrXUZRGd1hE?list=PLILfNPSQCo6yjFiwXY6-C-ikIDs6v2nHU
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 14, 2017, 03:28:49 PM
Is it worth us getting on bittylicious so people can get bay directly with cc ?

I would definitely welcome that.  I have used Bittylicious a lot, and would love to be able to buy BAY on there.  Smiley

You can buy BAY with cash on the markets themselves using unbreakable contracts and DDE. Its much safer because there are no chargebacks and the seller must release bay because of double deposit and two-party escrow.
787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 13, 2017, 09:25:17 PM
While the are no development news there will be no pump.

Agree on that one. I'm also investing into Storj, BCY and MAID and i tell you guys all those 3 seem to have a lot more development going then Lisk.
you forgot to mention NAV

Actually he forgot BitBay which isn't vaporware like so many other projects. Decentralized markets, unbreakable DDE contracts and rolling peg. And like 50 other features already working for over a year.

A video of the thing in action...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXUZRGd1hE&index=1&list=PLILfNPSQCo6yjFiwXY6-C-ikIDs6v2nHU
788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 12, 2017, 10:24:03 PM
Alright!
So I finally got the multi address cold stake running.
Currently I've got 4 different accounts open and staking!
And I have a separate keys loaded on 2 separate computers!
So I'm literally cold-multi-staking    Cheesy 

I can't wait for the exchanges to jump on board. I'd love to see the day that exchanges will act as BitBay mining pools where traders accounts will be earning coins while they wait for their sell orders to get hit!

I'm not for holding lots of coins on exchanges for long periods of time, but no matter the risk, people will have coins on the exchanges.

These are supposed to be safe in cold storage. So why not earn coins while they are STILL in cold storage? Roll Eyes

This is actually a huge feature but everyone is anon crazy right now. I notice nearly all anon coins are flying.
Let's hope they start to realise that there is more to a currency than anon and that bay could go anon if it wished too. I think we will eventually incorp more privacy anyway.

Already the dumper move today of 3.1M and 1.2M in large chunks did nothing the price is back to where it was already.

I expect a solid 250 sats or greater a little while after the march 22 release. So i'm continually adding a bunch of bay here and there.



This anon thing was a surprise. It was sort of random.
789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 11, 2017, 12:41:21 PM
Just to try to put it in perspective

Roughly 5 million atoms could fit on a sharpened pencil head.

5,000,000 bits = 5 terabytes

that means about 1000 movies on a pencil head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY9lfO-tVfE

Its not proof of atoms, simply proof that deflected energy can be used to compose an image. Thus very high powered magnification is possible.

If they are able to manipulate the charge of the surface area, they can thus make a hard drive. However that doesn't mean we will see this type of miniaturization anytime soon. Mostly because it was just an experiment to see if they could change the charge of an extremely small area of a surface.

Interesting though. Regardless its nice to see new technology getting to the public.
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 16th 8PM on: March 11, 2017, 07:00:25 AM
Just wonder how many BTC and bitbay zimbeck get from bitbay?

Please direct any questions about BitBay to our thread or slack as this is Qtum thread and it may go unnoticed (I did say I'm not commenting here anymore and plan on trying my best to do that). A quick answer to that though; as for BTC I got 191 BTC and 10% of Bay which has not been sold since launch (i can spend from those accounts proving that fact). I'm waiting to finish the pegging before even considering it. That was all explained 2 years ago on reddit. All things considered, I'm going on my 3rd year of work on it. And I do it as my full time job (BitBay and BitHalo/BlackHalo).

Please understand I'm not fudding you guys, have no interest in pumping Bay (thats why we are doing decentralized pegging) and excuse me for answering this here.

At this point investors know the risks here and the devs are aware as well of the risk and of the moral compromise.

Adios
791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 16th 8PM on: March 11, 2017, 04:54:19 AM
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You're portraying yourself as completely innocent, and Dai as the only bad guy in the story. I bet there's more to it than that.

Regardless of my innocence, consider I've been working for 2 years after BitBay started and coding 8+ hour days to fulfill the promises made. Unlike other vaporware the software does exactly what it says it does. So unlike Dai I work for my money. Actions speak louder than words. And on that note, I will take my leave.
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 16th 8PM on: March 11, 2017, 03:01:30 AM
... and stackoverflow you will also notice those accounts were actually created right after the release of qtum ...

Looks like you're paranoid now  Grin

stackoverflow: Date Registered: April 14, 2015

Oh sorry I made a mistake and confused you with another sockpuppet, thanks for correcting it. It's still clear as day you are a shill and I implore anybody who doubts that to simply look through your posts. I love how you don't even try to refute/challenge any of the other things I said in my post lol you just cut it out of the quote in hopes less people will see it.

Well, too bad because here it is again:

Let's just pretend for a moment there is nothing to worry about here in terms of the project being a scam:

Even if this didn't reek of scam they want to raise 15 million dollars in the ICO for only 51% of the supply. That's an initial market capitalization of 30 million. Based on what? What justifies the biggest initial market capitalization in the history of crypto ICOs? There isn't even a github yet. It's ridiculous. What sane investor would invest in this? There is little room to grow and tons of room for the price to fall. With an initial market cap of 30 mil how could anybody expect to make a profit by investing in the ICO, even if this isn't a scam?
Factor in the additional fact the team is also going to have 29% of the supply that they will be selling to further fund the project (as if 15 million isn't enough?) and the fact the angel backers invested only ~1 million and got 20% of the supply meaning they paid 1/6th what ICO investors will have to pay and they can dump their coins all the way down to 1/6 the ICO price and still sell for a profit. How the hell are you going to support an initial market cap of 30 mil when you also have that type of sell pressure coming from the 49% premine? Even if the team were clean as a whistle how is anybody dumb enough to think this is a sound investment?


Why wouldn't somebody just wait until after the ICO to buy on the inevitable dump below ICO price? That way you could also wait and see for certain whether or not it is a scam.


I was waiting for someone to point this out. Thanks.

I promised BitBay I would stay out of it and gently encouraged them to do the same, but if you don't mind there is one thing I would like to comment. This will most likely be my last comment on this thread. Investors are already aware so they know the risks moving forward.

Even if the price of Qtum goes up, the reality is that Dai walked from our project with a huge fortune that he didn't work for. As stated before we didn't condemn him at first because he agreed to stay. That was not honored and if anyone checks they will notice interviews and news articles after the first year I was condemning Dai (way before I was aware of Qtum). And that is not even mentioning that he pumped the ICO with his own funds and got a refund (free coins). Something I was made aware of a bit too late. There is tons of chat logs plastered all over BCT about that. Some were already posted here. Despite that, I still tried to contact him in a diplomatic manner. Obviously, I got tired of doing that.

So if investors don't mind Dai potentially pumping his own ICO and getting free coins rebated to him & his partners or if you don't mind a 49% premine on top of what they intend to raise go right ahead. Or if you don't mind that Dai has not worked hard in the past beyond an ICO then go ahead.

Or better yet, just invest in projects with honorable teams.

Although it is true I went to the slack and tried to warn the team of the guy they were dealing with. My warnings were ignored by the Qtum team. So although nobody here was calling Qtum a "scam" we were simply pointing out that the founder is sitting on stolen funds and breaks promises.

Considering Qtum moves forward with this anyway is sad indeed and whatever blowback they get is deserved. And to the devs who still have a chance to drop off the project despite the big paycheck. I can see money has blinded you guys (Earlz, Brett, etc). I'm very sorry to hear that and just realize you are placing the value of money over your own reputations. And more critically, you guys are at peace risking the funds of investors in the hands of a known theif. (Regardless of the supposed financial "oversight" it doesn't change who you work for)

When will people learn to start supporting honorable people as opposed to supporting dishonorable ones? Trust should be the FIRST thing an investor considers when advancing.

Okay well... adios.

Did he return the fund to you? If no, I think you should keep asking him to return the money, you know they don't care in this forum. They promoted heavily in China mainland, there will be most Chinese investors like Antshares, you know ANS price is less than half of ICO price, I think Qtum will break ICO price too, if those Chinese noobs still invest in Qtum.

The fact that they are not informing the Chinese is wrong. Hopefully someone informed them to be aware of this. They deserve to know what is going on here.

And no of course he did not refund it to me nor did he invest time or money into the project. The dev fund was never his and meant for development. 20 btc from each of the 5 people involved (including myself). So as stated fairly detailed in an earlier post with screenshots and links he got 151-170+ BTC and 10-20% of Bay which he sold and didn't work for. Not a bad payday for simply riding my reputation.

Realize, with BitHalo they already had a prototype to promote so he and the others profited off of two years of my hard work. Obviously I made the mistake of not valuing what I had accomplished up to that point and felt like I was able to license the technology as part of my business model sort of forgetting the value in my own name.

That makes him no better than Bobsurplus, potentially just as bad because he tried to mislead us into thinking he would stay when by his own admission he didn't.

I persisted for 2 years contacting him and got a measly 500 dollars. So I've given up trying to get funds from him. He said he would contribute every month and didn't even do that.

I've learned to value my time now more than ever. So to waste even a moment on him or his friends is a moment not spent on myself, my family or BitBay and Halo.
793  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform | Crowdsale March 16th 8PM on: March 11, 2017, 02:14:19 AM
... and stackoverflow you will also notice those accounts were actually created right after the release of qtum ...

Looks like you're paranoid now  Grin

stackoverflow: Date Registered: April 14, 2015

Oh sorry I made a mistake and confused you with another sockpuppet, thanks for correcting it. It's still clear as day you are a shill and I implore anybody who doubts that to simply look through your posts. I love how you don't even try to refute/challenge any of the other things I said in my post lol you just cut it out of the quote in hopes less people will see it.

Well, too bad because here it is again:

Let's just pretend for a moment there is nothing to worry about here in terms of the project being a scam:

Even if this didn't reek of scam they want to raise 15 million dollars in the ICO for only 51% of the supply. That's an initial market capitalization of 30 million. Based on what? What justifies the biggest initial market capitalization in the history of crypto ICOs? There isn't even a github yet. It's ridiculous. What sane investor would invest in this? There is little room to grow and tons of room for the price to fall. With an initial market cap of 30 mil how could anybody expect to make a profit by investing in the ICO, even if this isn't a scam?
Factor in the additional fact the team is also going to have 29% of the supply that they will be selling to further fund the project (as if 15 million isn't enough?) and the fact the angel backers invested only ~1 million and got 20% of the supply meaning they paid 1/6th what ICO investors will have to pay and they can dump their coins all the way down to 1/6 the ICO price and still sell for a profit. How the hell are you going to support an initial market cap of 30 mil when you also have that type of sell pressure coming from the 49% premine? Even if the team were clean as a whistle how is anybody dumb enough to think this is a sound investment?


Why wouldn't somebody just wait until after the ICO to buy on the inevitable dump below ICO price? That way you could also wait and see for certain whether or not it is a scam.


I was waiting for someone to point this out. Thanks.

I promised BitBay I would stay out of it and gently encouraged them to do the same, but if you don't mind there is one thing I would like to comment. This will most likely be my last comment on this thread. Investors are already aware so they know the risks moving forward.

Even if the price of Qtum goes up, the reality is that Dai walked from our project with a huge fortune that he didn't work for. As stated before we didn't condemn him at first because he agreed to stay. That was not honored and if anyone checks they will notice interviews and news articles after the first year I was condemning Dai (way before I was aware of Qtum). And that is not even mentioning that he pumped the ICO with his own funds and got a refund (free coins). Something I was made aware of a bit too late. There is tons of chat logs plastered all over BCT about that. Some were already posted here. Despite that, I still tried to contact him in a diplomatic manner. Obviously, I got tired of doing that.

So if investors don't mind Dai potentially pumping his own ICO and getting free coins rebated to him & his partners or if you don't mind a 49% premine on top of what they intend to raise go right ahead. Or if you don't mind that Dai has not worked hard in the past beyond an ICO then go ahead.

Or better yet, just invest in projects with honorable teams.

Although it is true I went to the slack and tried to warn the team of the guy they were dealing with. My warnings were ignored by the Qtum team. So although nobody here was calling Qtum a "scam" we were simply pointing out that the founder is sitting on stolen funds and breaks promises.

Considering Qtum moves forward with this anyway is sad indeed and whatever blowback they get is deserved. And to the devs who still have a chance to drop off the project despite the big paycheck. I can see money has blinded you guys (Earlz, Brett, etc). I'm very sorry to hear that and just realize you are placing the value of money over your own reputations. And more critically, you guys are at peace risking the funds of investors in the hands of a known theif. (Regardless of the supposed financial "oversight" it doesn't change who you work for)

When will people learn to start supporting honorable people as opposed to supporting dishonorable ones? Trust should be the FIRST thing an investor considers when advancing.

Okay well... adios.
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 11, 2017, 01:22:33 AM
Post the rejection of ETF, bay seems to have jumped up in price.
I presume those who had sold bay to buy bitcoins are coming back.  Smiley

Seems that way... crypto is bullish. Who needs their crazy regulation and bureaucracy. That is for the dinosaurs, the old way of doing thing. Takes them years to make a boring decision.

And their premises were a tad hypocritical the entire PDF was a rant. Varying opinions of the subject were balanced. And still they complain of overseas exchanges but forget that many corporations they support are not registered in the states. Also they are questionably subject to more manipulation because nothing they do is transparent and favors sharks. Many companies hold more than 51% premium stock. Then of course they claim to want to protect consumers but forget about Enron, Bernie Madoff and Facebooks obviously manipulated nonsense IPO.

Who needs them? And I've also heard that it would be too much trading of paper as opposed to moving a real commodity so it can harm the price temporarily. The thing I thought was bullish was the arbitrage (which the SEC complained about ironically) and the injection of billions of dollars to the market of fresh money.

But perhaps those investors will get frustrated with the old way of doing things and simply buy BTC directly. Or better yet, ALTCOINS!

To be honest I was almost certain they would accept it due to political positioning. But perhaps that was an oversight as the powers that be might have other plans bank related or delayed timing.
795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 10, 2017, 10:19:18 PM
8th most volume on trex again.

Only top 10 MC coins above it.

Polo are crazy not listing this coin on there you can say the volume would be 10x that daily and that's before bay gets recognised as a top 10 coin itself. I think top 2-3 but then of course perhaps I am biased. But no way should it be outside of the top 10.



I completely agree. We have all filled in their 'add a coin' form multiple times but to no avail . . .


Do you know if he hangs out on any slacks or private chats? Maybe I can reach out to him personally.
Tristian is a dark horse. Ive even reached out and tried to get him on chat channels. Alas.
He does check-in to BCT now and again, so you might be lucky.....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=139578

Hmm last comment in 2015 though
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 10, 2017, 01:50:50 PM
8th most volume on trex again.

Only top 10 MC coins above it.

Polo are crazy not listing this coin on there you can say the volume would be 10x that daily and that's before bay gets recognised as a top 10 coin itself. I think top 2-3 but then of course perhaps I am biased. But no way should it be outside of the top 10.



I completely agree. We have all filled in their 'add a coin' form multiple times but to no avail . . .


Do you know if he hangs out on any slacks or private chats? Maybe I can reach out to him personally.
797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Belacoin - Supercharging entrepreneurship with the power of the blockchain on: March 10, 2017, 04:06:44 AM
Haha I beat Bella Chess on its highest "supernatural" difficulty my first game in the Halloween Gambit.

Zimbeck
Bella the computer

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nxe5 Nxe5 5.d4 Nc6 6. d5 Ne5 7. f4 Ng6 8. e5 Ng8 9. Qe2 Bb4 10. f5 Qh4+ 11. g3 Qd4 12. fxg6
Bxc3+ 13. bxc3 Qxc3+ 14. Qd2 Qxa1 15. gxf7+ Kxf7 16. c3 Nh6 17. Bd3 Ke8 18. O-O Rf8 19. Re1 Rf3 20. Qc2 Rxd3 21. Qxd3 c6 22. Rf1 d6 23. Bxh6 Qb2 24. exd6 cxd5 25. d7+ Bxd7 26. Qe3+ Kd8 27. Rf8+ Be8 28. Rxe8+ Kc7 29. Qc5+ Kd7 30. Re7+ Kd8 31. Qc7# 1-0

Its funny this game was almost a repeat of one where I slaughtered Crafty and my friend Carl analysed the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXgiL4_z8o

I'm now a holder of 100 "microbella"

I guess its just a fawcet or something... no way to make any money playing it though. Still pretty cool.
798  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 09, 2017, 08:27:05 PM
Why doesn't this GIF post? I've seen people do it but for some random reason this shows as invalid?!



I have the same when uploading gifs from giphy here. you have to find the same gif on another site or upload it yourself in other sites which don't use https. At least that solved the thing for me

The easiest way to get pics here is to upload to imgur.com. Reply or quote to bct message then use insert image from buttons above. Right click on image on imgur.com and then click on 'Copy Image Location' then put in between the image markers. This works for me every time.

Thanks HORT, however we discovered bitcointalk has a size limitation. Check up a few posts above to see the animated gif of Bitbay it looks pretty damn cool
799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 09, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Hi! How long QT Wallets will be supported? If I'm going to use it for a long time,all my savings disappear?

No they will never disappear always keep a copy of your wallet just in case. However, yeah we will no longer support that wallet within 6 months or whenever pegging happens
800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: March 09, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
I heard some backlash against your service.
Want to explain what those were about?

There was no backlash, go check the news yourself. There was a few guys a couple years ago that used my name to fund this and they stole Bitcoins and left. One of them is currently running Qtum. Then they used fake accounts to try to mess with my rep adding insult to injury. I've been coding Halo and Bitbay for 4 years 50k lines and counting. Things like this detract from the sleepless nights spent working on this while those bastards laugh in our face on the way to the bank when it should be to their graves. But we will have the last laugh I assure you.

This is some of the best crypto software in the world, you can download it or not but please leave the past where it belongs. We are tired of hearing about it thanks.
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