This situation will pass and better days ahead. I will try to get some investors to clear some of the supply.
It's will be god to find some new investors : this is what I told to Francoin. |
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im glad i switched to suprnova check the luck of the last blocks! LOL
Yes, 3 lucky blocks :-). It was time. |
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The two versions of zcash, which one is which? For example, what version is the one listed on coinmarketcap? (The two versions I am talking about are the ones that split from each other after the team disagreement.)
What are you talking about ? In one side ZCash (ZEC) in an other side ZCoin (XZC). ZCoin is better than ZCash (technics properties). |
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@Hunetwolfie
Insults are not welcome here and are the proof of your stupidity.
And for your education : I communicate privately with the dev (he asks me advices about this situation) and I take this opportunity to encourage him and remain positive, even if he does the opposite of what should be.
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There are now 2 walls at 1 and 2 satoshis! who do this ?! There is no way to counter this? It becomes ridiculous ...
I sell my bb for brned the wall
Francoin is selling @1sat. I told him not to do it ... Now there is going to be not 23 but 50 or 100 million or even more in nature that will have cost 1 or 2 satoshis: their owners will be able to sell them to 3 satoshis with profit ... With these mistakes, the price will be low a long time and those who have invested, like me, can say goodbye for a long time to their investment... Not cool. well he has no choice given the fact that people don't want to help bring down those walls. 2 satoshis for this coin is nothing. Imagine what happens when this gets on yobit. This can reach 100 satoshis easy. Look at XBY. 1 satoshi it was and now 152 satoshis.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/xtrabytes/Were are you comme from, You ? To break a wall @2 sats, you make a wall @1sat ? And  ? Is the 2 sat wall falling ? No ! Now we have not only 20 M BB @ less 3 sats, but the double !!! Next step : a wall @0,5 sat ? Stupid advices ! Very stupid ! Completely stupid ! 70 for BCT activity and you are an expert ! |
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If you look at the expected ROI for mining equipment, I think the returns are reasonable.
ROI for a mining rig is usually about 12 months not including any location costs.
The mineum team raised about $60,000 and is currently paying about $5000 in dividends each month, giving it a ROI of 12 months.
Keeping your BTC would have been a better investment, but your ROI is what you would expect from mining.
Be carreful : your numbers are totally false. Right numbers are : ICO average price : 3002 sats (source : ANtho281) Dividends from the first day to today, per MNMs (2016-july -> 2017-march = 9 months) : 236 sats, then an average of 236/9 = 26,22 sats/month For a 12 months ROI, dividends should be 3002/12 = 250,17 sats/month Real numbers are 10 times less ! And the real ROI is 3002/26,22 = 114,49 months = 9,54 years !!! The performance of this mining farm is a disaster. Even me I do much better with my little miners and a price of electricity 3 times more expensive. Please, do your calculations accurately and with the real numbers. And do not mislead others. Well... that's not the way you can calculated an ROI .. since you already / still hold the coins... That says, from the beginning, we sent a total of ~23.9 BTC. At current rate, it represent 37 379,60 USD$. From the ICO we earned about 55 000$ USD. That says, we have sent 68% of what we collected in less than a year. Now, what you did with your own BTCs, is your choice. But do not forget that we have bills to pay and many other improvement that we had to pay to make that mining operation possible. There is only way to calculate an ROI : Expenditure / income, in the same currency, off course and here this is Bitcoin, only Bitcoin. During the ICO we have not buy our MNMs in $, $ CAD, RMB or €, but with Bitcoins. And incomes are not in $, $ CAD $, RMB or €, but with Bitcoins. ROI can only be calculate in Bitcoin ! If you use $ or CAD $..., you use the increase of the bitcoin for maskings a part of the Mineum disaster. You know that I'm right and I am very disappointed that you use this type of trickery to try to deceive people: it is simply dishonest and it is not the Antho that I thought I knew Yes, I do what I want with my Bitcoins, but you can not do what you want with those of the ICO and the least is to do everything to ensure profitability. For investors, we are very far: 9.5 years ! For my part, I was probably wrong to invest in Mineum. |
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There are now 2 walls at 1 and 2 satoshis! who do this ?! There is no way to counter this? It becomes ridiculous ...
I sell my bb for brned the wall
Francoin is selling @1sat. I told him not to do it ... Now there is going to be not 23 but 50 or 100 millions BB or even more in nature that will have cost 1 or 2 satoshis: their owners will be able to sell them to 3 satoshis with profit ... With these mistakes, the price will be low a long time and those who have invested, like me, can say goodbye for a long time to their investment... Not cool. |
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If you look at the expected ROI for mining equipment, I think the returns are reasonable.
ROI for a mining rig is usually about 12 months not including any location costs.
The mineum team raised about $60,000 and is currently paying about $5000 in dividends each month, giving it a ROI of 12 months.
Keeping your BTC would have been a better investment, but your ROI is what you would expect from mining.
Be carreful : your numbers are totally false. Right numbers are : ICO average price : 3002 sats (source : ANtho281) Dividends from the first day to today, per MNMs (2016-july -> 2017-march = 9 months) : 236 sats, then an average of 236/9 = 26,22 sats/month For a 12 months ROI, dividends should be 3002/12 = 250,17 sats/month Real numbers are 10 times less ! And the real ROI is 3002/26,22 = 114,49 months = 9,54 years !!! The performance of this mining farm is a disaster. Even me I do much better with my little miners and a price of electricity 3 times more expensive. Please, do your calculations accurately and with the real numbers. And do not mislead others. |
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how to test the mtp?
MTP is in test on the testnet. You can going to the slack to have more help I think. |
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@dev,
Hi dev, it's will be good for the community to have some news/update from you :-).
We are in discussions with exchanges, 2 of them are being tested and we are just waiting for their confirmation to go live. We will update here once there are more updates. Thank you : I think it is important to have almost 1 post from you per day to know the news, even there is no news ;-). I hope for Bittrex too (not too small exchange). |
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@dev,
Hi dev, it's will be good for the community to have some news/update from you :-).
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Unfortunately i lost access to address from myetherwallet that i used for minereum. I want to warn everybody to store properly your address private key.
My minereum adventure is already ended. So sad.
Bad news :-(. Good advice (I have to make a backup). Minerrum will be very rare in next week/months/years. |
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Disperse your BB
What you mean ? |
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I hate to be "that" person but it kind of... smart. 1) Make an ICO 2) Return "dividends" of like 10% a year while all market went up hundreds percent. 3) Because of this your coin WAY bellow ICO price as it not attractive at all. 4) Now you buy back at 3/4 of price (not sure about the number, more or less) because of the HOLDERS demand from "profits", artificially inflating it's value as there is no real value which derives from miserable dividends, that also gonna disappear because of buyback, so nobody really will buy it  )) Even reaching ICO price will be "success". 5) You keep the operation, got almost nothing to pay to holders, got almost free funding. PROFIT. the sad thing is that I am also a "big investor" here :/ I hate to tell that, but I agree with this post :-( ! And I am also a "big investor" here ! The only way to increase the value of MNM is to distribute more dividends : it is unlikely that ICO funds will yield as few btc in mining. Redeem the MNMs with the dividends of people who have already bought them, it is not honest. The buywall is a scam: me alone I have enough MNMs to make it collapse and I'm not the only one (I'm not saying I would). This buywall will be used only to refund the funds invested in the ICO by 2, 3 ou 4 people... |
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1 sat, right : very low..
Dumpers will be out in a few hours/days... price will pump after.
Do you want a very good news ?
1,18 btc exchanged in approx. 6 hours : that is a very good news (@ 1 sat, then 118,000,000 BBs for 6 hours) !
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For those who followed me.
This morning, the order bok is in a completely different configuration: I doubt that there is again a big margin of decrease (several orders of purchases with volume).
Now, whenever the dev is given good news about MTP or XZC is admitted to Poloniex, the possibilities of violent rebound are strong in the short term.
Moreover, Bitcoin has just seen a sharp rise and it is likely that it stabilizes or decreases slightly, so the alts had to go up in the next 2 or 3 days.
Good shopping :-) !
What volume are you talking about, the market is the same and if someone dumps the equivalent of 40 BTCs of XZC the price will fall under 0.00007587 BTC per XZC. It is not so simple : nobody will sell all the market alone :-). And 40 BTC is 2 times more than when I spoke of falling price : this is proof that the market has become twice as buyer and will have a hard time to fall now. The order book can change configuration in a few hours according to some orders, so it must be monitored regularly. My point of view is that Bittrex market is used by miners to sell the buy orders are in BTC38, there where real investors put their money
Overall, it is also more or less my opinion (but there is also miners in China). |
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It is damage to see so much sale and no purchase yet I had placed the price at 4000 satoshi  Be patient : wait the dumpers are gone. BB is in exchange now : it's time to talk about bonus for those have subscribing at the exchange bounty :-). |
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This is very promising : congratulation :-) ! I'll be here for Znode (hope so). |
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For those who followed me.
This morning, the order bok is in a completely different configuration: I doubt that there is again a big margin of decrease (several orders of purchases with volume).
Now, whenever the dev is given good news about MTP or XZC is admitted to Poloniex, the possibilities of violent rebound are strong in the short term.
Moreover, Bitcoin has just seen a sharp rise and it is likely that it stabilizes or decreases slightly, so the alts had to go up in the next 2 or 3 days.
Good shopping :-) !
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the bitcoin´s price keeps going up but the zcoin value in satoshis and dollar keeps going down... why Read that I wrote a few posts higher (detailled analysis). No buyers in the order book since many time... and a lot of sellers. Sellers are selling, even at low price, but they can sold only if buyers at presents, and they are not. can the price fall under 0.004 BTC ??!! Here we are : 390,000 sats (Bittrex 24 h low). Remember : I wrote some days ago that I sold all my ZCoin (590,000 sats at this time). I hope some peolple follow my advice :-). I'm back to SuprNova but the revenu is allways bad (lasts blocks "luck" : 300,40 - 16,12 - currently block 131%).
Have you tried minigpoolhub for xzc? How they pay, my last calculations showed that they pay about 15% less than should (by calculator), or maybe it's problem on my side (miner, etc)? /quote] I have made replies for that in my previous posts. Yes I test miningpoolhub and no that is not a problem for your side : it was the same for me (lower hashrate, a lot of difficulty adjustment, but a better luck factor). |
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