coin grading companies do not even factor in the stickers What do you mean? Does ANACS not even consider the stickers when grading? They do mark them 'damaged' if they is redeemed
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bump..
someone pm me an offer.
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Id like one. pm me
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Im wanting to get a basic error coin for my collection. looking for a bargain, hit me up
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im online in chat, looking to sell about 2btc EDIT: +1, very good service, helped me through paypal transaction!
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Thanks for the list you made. I would put the words "gold B" in with the 1 BTC 2013 coin that I sell. I can do that. I would say that the 'Gold B' in that case belongs at the end of the name, behind the year, as it is not required to differentiate it from another coin. Still great to havea 'name' for it
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What coin are you referring to when you say "1ltc 'Error' Coin, S1, 2013"?
I refer to the first 2000 1ltc coins, on which there is no 'private key pit' on the coins*. These are generally differentiated from the other 1ltc coins on these forums as 'series 1' and 'series 2' respectively, a practice i find to be confusing. *It could have been something else, but my memory is foggy at the moment.
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Oh yeah, I see that now... I randomly tripped across it while looking up Casascius coins. Didn't they get in hot water from the feds as a money transmitter and stop producing all coins with values?
What I thought was interesting on your site was the tracking of the coins and whether or not they've been spent yet.
I'm very glad that the guide is being found by those searching the coins. You are correct, Casascius was essentially ordered to stop selling the coins containing btc value. There are however, over a dozen other companies making similar coins, with different designs and holograms, that have continued. these coinsare also collectible and what I am categorizing.
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YES! This is actually my website / guide. What I am working on is the updated version that will be 200 pages. see my signature
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no comments? this makes me sad
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As some of you may know, I am working on a ~200 page eBook guide to categorize all physical crypto coins. In creating it, I would like to standardize some naming conventions to identify specific coins, particularly when it comes to Casascius coins. I would like the feedback of the collector community to develop a naming system that makes sense, is easy to understand, and will stand the test of time. Please see my thread designated for naming here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907471.new#newBelow is a proposed naming convention for casascius coins. Please comment in the thread pasted above! 1btc Coin, S1, 2011 1btc ‘First Bits Error’ Coin, S1, 2011 1btc Coin, S2, 2011 1btc Coin, S2, 2012 1btc Coin, S2, 2013 1btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 1btc Silver 'Gold Rim' Coin, S3, 2013 5btc Coin, S1, 2012 ‘Error Bitnickel’ (should I drop the 'error' here?) 5btc Coin, S2, 2012 ‘Bitnickel’ 0.5btc Coin, S2, 2013 0.5btc 'Silver Error' Silver Coin, S3, 2013 0.5btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 0.1btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 10btc Silver Coin, S2, 2012 10btc 'Gold B' Silver Coin, S2, 2012 25btc Coin, S1, 2011 25btc Coin, S2, 2011 1000btc Gold Coin, S1, 2011 Aluminum Round St. Petersburg Bitcoin Bowl Silver Round PS: looking for SPONSORS! there's ad space available on the guide!
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As some of you may know, I am working on a ~200 page eBook guide to categorize all physical crypto coins. In creating it, I would like to standardize some naming conventions to identify specific coins, particularly when it comes to Casascius coins.
I would like the feedback of the collector community to develop a naming system that makes sense, is easy to understand, and will stand the test of time.
- In the first version of the Casascius Guide, I used 'Version' to identify Casascius coins. In my opinion, a better word is 'Series', shortened to S1. S2, etc.
- I have experimented with the idea of specifically designating silver and gold coins as such in the name, as it seems to be a precedent in the traditional numismatic community. Please let me know your thoughts.
- I have begun designating all hologram-bearing coins which are or can be loaded with a crypto currency as 'coins', while those with normal artwork on both sides are 'rounds'. The grey area here are those coins which bear an image on one side, and a blank side on the other where a sticker is provided to the buyer so they can 'create their own wallet'. I am of the opinion that these too should be designated as 'rounds', or perhaps specifically as 'wallets' (though I imagine that confusing numismatics).
- I think each specific hologram should be designated as a 'series'. This is already the convention with Casascius coins. This would mean Lealana coins are divided into 2 series, with the 1st 1ltc coins some currently consider an individual series (due to no 'pt' for the private key making a large bump into the hologram) being simply designated as an 'error' strain of Series 1.
- Many Casascius coins have popular 'names'. I have devised a method to intgrate them into the 'standard names' i am developing. In doing so I a m deviding these names into two categories; 'differentiating' and 'describing' names. Differentiating names are ones which differentiiate two coins that are otherwise the exact same year, series, amount. There are two examples: 1btc Coin, S1, 2011 1btc ‘First Bits Error’ Coin, S1, 2011 and 10btc Silver Coin, S2, 2012 10btc 'Gold B' Silver Coin, S2, 2012 and 0.5btc 'Silver Error' Silver Coin, S3, 2013 0.5btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 and 1btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 1btc Silver 'Gold Rim' Coin, S3, 2013 (The 10BTC coin and 1BTC coin both have a 'gold B', but only the 1BTC features a 'gold rim', so it is a better name) These names serve as an 'official' parts of the name to differentiate them from others. The other type; describing names, are ones which are not crucial to identify the coin, but are very helpful in understanding what is being referred to and include 'nicknames'. Below are examples: 5btc Coin, S1, 2012 ‘Error Bitnickel’ 5btc Coin, S2, 2012 ‘Bitnickel’ My naming convention has been to put the 'differentiating' names right after the denomination (in the middle of the name), while the 'describing' nickname types go after the year.
- When selling any S1 Casascus coin, many people speak of it as an 'error' or 'error coin'. I propose that the 'error' not be put in either the middle or end of the names of the coins, as the 'S1' marking would already imply it. I believe it would serve to confuse readers. The fact of the spelling error can always be explained in the description.
Please comment with your thoughts on some or all of these points so I can make this guide the best it can be. Below I have my current naming for Casascius and Lealana.
CASASCIUS 1btc Coin, S1, 2011 1btc ‘First Bits Error’ Coin, S1, 2011 1btc Coin, S2, 2011 1btc Coin, S2, 2012 1btc Coin, S2, 2013 1btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 1btc Silver 'Gold Rim' Coin, S3, 2013 5btc Coin, S1, 2012 ‘Error Bitnickel’ (should I drop the 'error' here?) 5btc Coin, S2, 2012 ‘Bitnickel’ 0.5btc Coin, S2, 2013 0.5btc 'Silver Error' Silver Coin, S3, 2013 0.5btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 0.1btc Silver Coin, S3, 2013 10btc Silver Coin, S2, 2012 10btc 'Gold B' Silver Coin, S2, 2012 25btc Coin, S1, 2011 25btc Coin, S2, 2011 1000btc Gold Coin, S1, 2011 Aluminum Round St. Petersburg Bitcoin Bowl Silver Round
LEALANA 1ltc 'Error' Coin, S1, 2013 1ltc Coin, S1, 2013 5ltc Silver Coin, S1, 2013 10ltc Silver Coin, S1, 2013 25ltc Silver Coin, S1, 2013 0.1btc Brass Coin, S2, 2013 0.1btc Silver Coin, S2, 2013 0.25btc Silver Coin, S2, 2013 0.5btc Silver Coin, S2, 2013 1btc Silver Coin, S2, 2013
I have lots more to figure out for naming conventions for all the other coins, but this is a good place to start.
The whole guide should be ready in 2 weeks time. I am looking for sponsors to donate, who will get the privilege of having some ads appear in the guide. Anyone interested please get in touch!
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Ok haven't kept up in weeks and there is tons of pages, can the people that haven't redeemed their token get it yet?
nope you will have to hold on a bit longer. make sure to check back atleast every two-three weeks every two-three weeks? so long ? dev~ we've had this in development for almost a year; a super long time for any project like this. Its really quite frustrating to be told 'a few weeks'. In all likelihood, this will be another few months. Im really beginning to lose interest to be honest.
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Congratulations on the 0.5 low-mintage sales! I'm sure it is exciting for you personally; I find it exciting for the marketplace as a whole. As you pointed out awhile back...I take it as another indicator of a maturing market. One that realizes the numismatic premium comes from a number of factors, but mintage counts being a very, very important one. I view it almost hierarchically. Germane, common sales (maybe a loose 1 BTC Brass coin) provide the comfort for someone to make a 20 BTC buy like the 0.5 BTC rare piece. One of those sales may set up for a 25 BTC S1 sale, which may set up for a 100 BTC Bar sale (x of 17), a 1000 coin or bar (x of 1, 2, 3, or 5).
I am of course talking my book here, but I anticipate that within this collectible community, we will see a greater normalization of prices, with mintage and wow-factor being the two key determinants. A next evolution from there would be more sensical prices as we move up the grading scale. It is oversimplistic to simply say that all MS-66s should have an xxx% premium relative to an MS-65. Each piece is different. Years from now, with proper tracking tools in place, I envision something similar to what we have with the coin grading sites today. A place where you can see the total mintage for a certain coin, but that mintage is then further split out based on the known quantities in each grading. An MS-67 1 BTC Silver S3 is a pretty common grade. Yet I don't think we'll ever see an MS-67 25 BTC S1.
This tracking site is something that would be a great thing to implement onto my site, CoinFIRM, along with the Casascius and other eBooks and eventual galleries and databases. It will indeed be interesting to see what a 1000 BTC coin or bar will one day sell for; im sure that all parties involved will seek anonymity so I would not at all be surprised if such a sale is not public at all. Another burning question is, where do we get the info or these sale figures, and what should the numbers be tracked as ( BTC or $)? What sources will we get the info for regarding sales that have taken place? Simply watching one forum for these sales is very narrow-minded, even if a large portion of coin owners and traders have accounts here. It may well be that some holders of the 1000 BTC pieces are not even registered here. Will we follow the sales that take place on eBay in dollars, and convert that to BTC (at the time of the sale) for tracking purposes? I would agree that Casascius coin sales and values should be measured relative to BTC, because they already hold intrinsic btc value and so fourth, and are expected to rise along with btc value. Still, it does seem silly; almost like measuring the value of rare 1900's gold coins relative to how many ounces of gold they can buy. Something to think about On a bit of an unrelated note, I notice Nubbins is really emphasising the 'chain of custody'; PGP docs and so fourth. While that's all good and fine, I really dont think they give additional value in a practical sense. Supposedly they would reduce the danger that someone would use some tech to remove the hologram and put it back; but really I think its a moot point since it has not been attempted and even when it happened, the hologram looked noticeably different. Especially in the case of the very rare 0.5 BTC S2's; nobody in their right mind would try to remove the S2 hologram to steal 0.5btc, when the coin is worth 20 BTC and the removal would at least put a huge risk in destroying it for what... a 2-3% additional value. Especially if a coin is ANACS graded, I believe its legitimacy is irrefutable.
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in fact im interested but all ofer dont seems right please only write to make offer better by pm thanks.
So if you don't like an offer, we just wait a few days and send you another one? Sounds like a great way to do business its not the best; better would be if he set some prices he's willing to buy for.. There might always be someone whose looking for a quick sale. I dont think we need to hate on him too much, im sure hes an honest guy looking for a deal, but i think we can agree that there are better ways to arrange trades.
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old thread, please delete
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up!!!
why do you keep bumping when you dont seem to have any interest in actually buying?
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There should be an upper bound on the price as it is possible to remove the physical holographic protection and steal the private key below. So risking a huge amount in each coin would be foolish. Then again the market can bear many fools. The 'stealing private keys' risk really has no basis. It is true that it was done once, but it was also reported that the hologram looked noticeably dimmer and not fully smooth when it was put back on; not reflecting in the light as before being removed. This happened along time ago with an unknown technique, and to date there has not been even a suggestion that it has ever been attempted to defraud anyone. I consider it a non-issue as long a the market keeps its eyes open. what are Casascius coins made from? did'nt the manufacturer get shut down by FBI?
Most are made from brass, but some are silver and there are a couple gold ones. He needed to stop making the coins after getting a warning from FINcen for being a 'money transmitter' without licence. Theres many people making similar coins now.
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I am the creator of The Casascius Guide, a free eBook at www.coinfirm.orgIt is correct that the market has dried up considerably, this is due to the fact of 'hype' for bitcoin has decreased, as well as the value of bitcoin. Hype: gets more people interested in the coins, interested in collecting, Bitcoin value: as bitcoin value drops, sellers are less willing to part with their coins (perhaps foolishly). If when btc was $700 their coin had a mrket value of 3x ($2100), then even if the multiplier remains 3x, at $350 the market value is only $1050. Hype + decrease in BTC value: As hype has decreased, the demand and therefore market multiple have decreased. What used to be 3x may now be 2x. Combining these two factors, casascius owners have seen the value of their hypothetical coin go from $2100 (3x at $700) to only $700 (2x at $350). This is a terrible psychological barrier to selling; they would be getting only what they might view as the value of 'one bitcoin' from before for what used to be 'worth 3 bitcoin'. I think there is alot of irrationality in markets, and only more so when that which is being traded ha sentimental value and such. I expect that at the next 'hype' phase, the coin market will be hot again and more mature, perhaps even to be noticed by more mainstream coin collectors. It is worth noting that prices for casasccius coins here on the forums are much less then the 'mainstream (ebay) prices, due to various reasons. \if you look at the 'sold' section on ebay for recent casascius sales, you will notice that the margins are much different then for those sold here. I Think it is important to start watching the prices more closely, and it is expected that a stable price range will be set for standard coins such as MS-64 2013 1BTC, etc. Price will always vary wildly for the higher grades and rarer coins, as they are difficult to sell and ire a matter of finding tge right buyer at the right time (for example, the rare 0.5btc coins going for ~10 BTC). The market is also still figuring out the value of certain coins, and nobody really has a clue as to what they should be priced at. Imagine for example a 1000 BTC gold coin, of which 3 remain. What would be an appropriate asking price? 3000 BTC? surely not. 1500 BTC? 1050 BTC?
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1 NEMSTAKE for sale!!
I am looking to sell my NEMstake. Deal would happen with me giving my password and info and you changing it. I am a trusted member on these forums with many prior deals.
Please get in touch if you want a stake!
you don't need to sell your account.. Selling your token should suffice. @patmast3r would have to confirm that it hasn't been redeemed aswell. It has been 'redeemed; in that it is in a password protected nem account, with public and private key. if anyone is interested please message me. ok, so the story has changed drastically in the space of two posts.. what good is your account if you have already redeemed and now are in control of the private key to which the coins will be sent? you would be selling a worthless account with which nothing can be done. even if you sold the private key there is no assurances that you havnt duplicated it... perhaps you are genuine but even still i think someone would have to have an IQ of 5 to go through with a deal now. Ah I see, forgive me as I didnt realize it was sent to the address to which I have a private key, but thought it goes to the 'account'. To clarify, my intention was to sell the stake/rights to the stake/receipt of the nem at launch/etc. I totally understand its difficult for anyone to make any assurances due to the way its set up at this point. If anyone is willing to trust my rep and try to make something work im willing to try to figure out how to best do so. I welcome anyone to see the link on my signature to the physical bitcoin guide ive published as evidence that I have a reputation stake in this community.
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