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981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is best practice for gambling?? on: September 18, 2018, 11:24:11 AM
Bet, bet and more betting.

Based on your experience you will know how much you can afford to lose / bet / profit.

Study some history rolls, make some custom strategies and profit with it.
History of your bets or history of some other peoples bet? I think once people start to get the hang of gambling, you can excel and try to play with different kinds of strategies, and of course knowing that it is going to work. It all comes down to experience.
Sorry mate, but no matter the strategy you think you have, no matter how much you think your strategy is going to work, gambling is gambling and it is all centered on luck. In that case, thinking anyone could get a hang of gambling is an absurd thing to think because no one can. It is either, you get lucky or you do not, it is either you get yourself in order and try to control yourself or you end up an addict by setting your mind on the things you should not.

It is best to even know beforehand that this is nothing about profit, it is gambling, you may be very lucky to get in on a sweet ride with the winning kicking in which is usually rare, and you can also start dancing with the negative side of things which most of the time it is common.

Now, it is important to be able to live with that mind that you are bound to lose more and be able to accept it before even attempting to gamble, because if you cannot, then you are leading yourself to the worst practice that can ruin you.
982  Other / Archival / Re: Investing in Gambling Sites on: September 18, 2018, 08:34:15 AM
You basically become a house and the "house" in the "house always wins" which means investing in gambling site is a profitable investment however you need to care about two things before you do it.

First is trusting the website, do you trust the website enough that it is definitely making that much money from the house edge or it won't steal money and go and so forth, if you trust the casino that its fine, if you do not you are risking money.

Second one is not using that profits or dividends on gambling yourself, usually investment is done on the casino website and the gambling is right there, some people can't go against the temptation so try to not gamble with your investment.
983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling addiction mainly due to loneliness and dissatisfaction? on: September 18, 2018, 07:44:57 AM
Drugs and gambling are very different from each other but they are also same because it is both addicting.  "gambling addiction mainly due to loneliness and dissatisfaction?" No I dont think so. As of my experience we become addicted to gambling because we become greed and we become tempted of this thing. We want to win the big price. Gambling is money. Money is temptation.
Loneliness and dissatisfaction are just two states of the mind, but this does not mean they simply will always be the cause of an addiction and that does not mean they cannot.

There is something about life, one thing usually lead to another and from there, you may even find yourself getting addicted by thinking you can find solace in gambling as a result of loneliness or some form of dissatisfaction on certain things, while thinking that you will just simply get out from it because of gambling. That is more like moving from frying pan into fire and that mindset you are bringing already can take you through the wrong path if you are not careful.
984  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crashing' Bitcoin Predictions on: September 18, 2018, 07:13:13 AM
There are holders who hate bearish people like currently I am. Somehow they think people who post negative things about the price want to influence the price. This is a very stupid thing to think. The market is huge and is moved by thousands of traders. Any post from anyone on bitcointalk won't ever influence the price.
Another reason for hate from holders is that some posts increase their anxiety about being wrong. About this I can't do nothing: hate on.
A last reason is about thinking that a bearish person is someone who is glad with bitcoin going down. Who don't care if this hurts bitcoin and moves people away from it. They think bearish people are bitcoin haters. Far from that: this is about facts and reasons, not about desires and emotions. I'm not glad or willing to see bitcoin's price going down. But our desires and emotions are irrelevant.
Holders who hate bearish people ? You think real holders who understand the technology, the future and the benefit and understand the risk with volatility will be worried about where the market wants to drive to? A serious holder will care less and even buy the dips if need be.

Nevertheless, the OP is just stating his own opinion. That does not mean his opinion will have to count in the long run, as future is unpredictable, but whichever way, you should also understand that the market sure have more room to go lower, and how you view that as an opportunity or problem is where the problem is.
985  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if bitcoin seems to average about 7500 USD on: September 18, 2018, 04:30:05 AM
Just suppose...

What if bitcoin seems to average about 7500 USD or so over a very long period, like a year or even more. Currently, this isn't high enough of a value in USD to really mine anymore with GPU's, if mining for profit in USD anyways. I do not mine with ASIC miners and I really know very little about them, even though I almost bought a Bitmain Antiminer S9 before I build my 8 GPU rig.

Will mining taper off to little to nothing, will difficulty levels be adjusted to compensate miners, or what else?

I would be interested to know some thinking on this, should it become a reality or even close to a reality for some length of time.



I don't think it's possible for Bitcoins to keep a stable price for a year, as we'll have seen it's very volatile and difficult to predict in which direction it's prices may go. However let's take a hypothetical situation, and assume it does happen then yes then the equilibrium mechanism will be in effect, for those miners mining during this period they'll be compensated more bitcoins to make up for their losses.
It has happened before but I really do not see it as a problem for miners. Not like it was stable, but there was a time in the past we had a long period of consolidation before bitcoin started making any moves to the upward direction.

I believe if things get to an equilibrium state and we know in a way, miners are getting something from the increase in price as well of what they get eventually, I am sure at some point, when it becomes less profitable for that reason, a lot of miners will end up bailing out, and then we will see the hash rate dropping and that means more money for the big miners, as I believe they will end up being the ones to stay in the mining sector as time goes on.
986  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Market Will ‘Absolutely’ Grow 1000x and More on: September 18, 2018, 03:59:28 AM
"Nothing Is Possible In Crypto World"
So should be Optimistic  Wink
Well at the end of this year, expected price should be 2x
Asto my individual opinion
Firstly, that should be nothing is impossible in the crypto world, and secondly it is just a normal saying based on experience and not a proverb as you said it. That is a sentence that I am sure is clear to even my 2 year old kid. Market can grow outrageously in the long run and however it tends to is best known with time as no one can predict the future but in this case, and as some people have mentioned it, it seems to be a lot to wrap one's head around, considering the level at which the market cap will be in such scenario

Just don`t wish it next year, but in next 20 we will have a lot more coins and tokens, many halvings, and more people in crypto.
20 seems reasonable time period to have such a big growth. We also have to understand that not everyone globally is absolutely going to end up being in this space, as some will be limited, accessible to some, and it would be a personal decision for some. Also in this case, we are talking about the whole world moving into the crypto space, with a market cap like this, and I wonder how that in itself is really going to work out. Do we even have up to 204 trillion dollar in the whole global market?
987  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto Mysteries on: September 17, 2018, 08:01:35 PM
I do not have any curiosity about whales and their games, I am sure it's the same as global politic games and maybe even the same people of group of them take a part in one and another.
I am more curious about the price prediction. Before I was sure that positive news about bitcoin adoption or something like "Samsung will accept bitcoin" work as pump to the price and negative news work oppositely. But with time I see only negative news affect and bitcoin development and spreading news stay kinda unseen. What's the deal?  Huh
Honestly, who really care about them ? What I am more worried about now is to see the market become less speculative and then see some level of real life usage. As long as we get to see this, I am sure even the whales hand will be a whole lot folded when it comes to manipulating the market in a way they want to.

Market is a whole lot going to develop as time goes on and will definitely not be what it is today. The mystery now is how the government is actually going to be able to make everything go smoothly, without giving up control and at the same time accepting the blockchain technology and cryptocurrency. I guess that is something we will get an answer to in the future.
988  Economy / Economics / Re: Differences in btc value? on: September 17, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
I do wonder why a change in bitcoin prices and also think of the time market will revive. This has been my worry for some time now since I have invested all my money into the coin.
Well, the changes you are referring to is totally different from the changes you are mentioning here. For what it is worth, the changes you are referring to should not be a problem for anyone who understands the market and the future it brings. A lot of people concentrate so much on profit that they forget the reason why they are here in the first place. It is far more than just profit, but the future and the great value it brings.

That being said, with respect to the OP, what he is saying is normal in any market and that is why there will always be arbitrage opportunities from platform to platform in any market.
989  Economy / Economics / Re: Newbies panic & Old timers smile, when the Bitcoin price take a dip. on: September 17, 2018, 04:35:49 PM
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That is true, newbies tend to panic whenever the price of Bitcoin is falling, it’s only old investors who has been into Bitcoin for a long time and understands how it works they are the only ones who ate happy and also has patience when Bitcoin is down.

That’s why anyone who wants to get into Bitcoin should study it and know everything about it including how it works. But I won’t really blame them newbies, you will also do the same when you invest in something you don’t know much about and the price starts to take a dip.
I have been interested in bitcoin for over 6 years now. I have been here way before anything important happened and I was here when all bad things happened as well. I have kept my peace with bitcoin for a long time and always supported the increase of bitcoin price and still do.

Nevertheless, this time it is a little bit different than the "old times" that I have seen, it seems like the market is volatile like always however this time its billions that keeps moving on. Back in the day when we saw drops and increases, it wasn't billions it was millions. This time it scares a bit more because honestly it is a lot of money to change the prices and rally up for a bull run.
990  Economy / Economics / Re: Can my economy be fulfilled in the future with Bitcoin? on: September 17, 2018, 04:01:23 PM
I have seen the price of bitcoin is very high and has exceeded 15000 $ for one bitcoin, and now the price of bitcoin is under 10,000 $ and maybe this is my chance to buy bitcoin as much money as I have and hope to get enough profit for my economy in the future.

am I wrong with this step?
Everyone can achieve it, however will they ? No.
Read the story of "I want the earth plus 5% more", it shows how economy is based upon some people making money while others can't. This means if you make money from trading bitcoin, there must be someone on the other side of that trade that lost money.

You hope that person is super rich and did a stupid move and it did not affected his normal life and maybe even chump change for him but more often than not those people do not make those silly moves, they did not become super rich by doing those silly moves.

You are most likely trading against someone who lost money that was really valuable to him. Not your problem I know but it just so happens to mean that not everyone can fulfill their future with bitcoin.
991  Economy / Marketplace / Re: your own factors behind an investment on: September 17, 2018, 01:26:03 PM
what makes me believe in the project and finally investing in a project is because I read from the whitepaper, see the background of the team and see the project plan they want to develop, if I have very good potential then I will enter and become an investor there.
Reading the whitepaper is the most essential part of investment. In fact it is the first thing that almost every investor do, even if you don't plan to invest in the project immediately. From the whitepaper you get to know about all the project such as the team of the project, technology to be used by the project, financiers of the project and most importantly the objective of the project. After knowing these things it becomes pretty easy for a person to decide whether to invest or not in the concerned.
It does not have to be the first thing but in the real sense it is a way to have a deeper insight on the project and the idea behind it while envisioning what it would be like once it actually hits it running. Nevertheless, the reason why I too believe that the whitepaper should come first is because whitepapers can be cloned and you really want to be sure you are not wasting your time, but starting to dig on the team first before anything else, in this way you would know if it would be a whitepaper worth wasting your time to read.

I am just following few telegram groups and they are the first filters to narrow down into few projects from this forum.
992  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Mercatox -Fastest growing exchanger on: September 17, 2018, 04:49:20 AM
The way mercatox is growning there is no doubt it will be top sooner or laterThey have better facilities in trading fee,transaction fee ,transaction speed,voting method etc than other famous exchanges.Their transaction speed is industry best.Mercatox support ticket and voting method is far more better and useful for me.They have to keep this improvement and they will be far more famous .They give a token to chance in free listing by voting method.

Probably mercatox so far is not quite has a big volume like what other exchange has a high volume such as Binance and okex, however if

Mercatox will develop it well. For sure in the near future it will boom for sure, then many traders will use their platform to make some trade in it.
It really would not have a big volume yet because it still remains a shit exchange when compared to every other reputable ones. Do you want to refer to the lagging website with a very bad interface, or the fact that their support sucks, or even to the point that once you have deposited into Mercatox, withdrawal becomes a problem.

I recently withdrew my btc from Mercatox, and that btc never showed up. I just wanted to let go of a token which I have been holding for a while and seems not to be having much development, which unfortunately the only exchange it is being traded was Mercatox. Shitty exchange to the core!
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bull run can be surprising? on: September 16, 2018, 08:59:01 AM
Users expecting for the bull run to occur this year. Hoping for the bull run to take place but usually we do not know yet when it would be. Price can rise and down in the market so once good news occur bull run will take place.
yes, all users are looking forward to this year. Prices can go up and down in the market so the good news is that a bull run will take place. all. we have to be patient while waiting for the bull run
Yeah, all users are looking forward to see a good end of the year, but the problem is that not all users are being realistic and they are simply expecting so much. This is not last year, we had a bullish move through out last year as the market was in an uptrend through, I guess I do not need to say this market is currently bearish and then nothing is guaranteed.

In as much as people could want a bullish run, we might see a good movement upward but it would not be any run and that does not ascertain any monish behavior yet.
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dump, Dump, DUmp, what is future? on: September 16, 2018, 07:48:55 AM
Even in btc, last year will never a just another year for crypto. We might never or it will take more years before we will see that amount again in every crypto.
Even though some people might still think that moon is something that happens in the market every year. This is a year of the bears and in occasions like this, it takes a lot of time for the market to get its bearing before even attempting to switch to an uptrend with some great recovery at the end of the day and that is the only time we can get to start thinking of a new ATH as the case may be. The future is still there and nothing has changed it, it only requires some level of patience and smartness to benefit from the future.

Just be patient and calm cause it really happens in the market and do not worry cause the price will pump when there is many investors
Patience! That is all that is needed to be able to make the right decisions in this market. The fact that there is a dump does not mean the future of a market is dead, it is just a phase, and trend changes every now and then, with what we have experienced now occurring again later on in the future. What is important now is to utilize the opportunity this moment brings and certainly try as much as possible to buy into the dips.
995  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Panic of traders on: September 16, 2018, 04:11:12 AM
Every day I see more and more people starting to feel hopeless with the current market situation because of uncertainty when prices will recover and end this fall. Even more and more traders are deciding to resign from trading and sell all of their assets but that makes the price even more falling.
People, who are feeling hopeless at the moment, are certainly those who expect so much from the market in the short term. As far as I am concerned, there is simply no way you can know what the market holds, and those who are just simply looking to get rich quick, would feel depressed since they ended up joining FOMO, investing in the market without some adequate knowledge, and now blaming the market for the mistakes they made.

We cannot stop people from panicking as long as they got the wrong picture from the onset, if they get to understand the long term benefit and the possibility of seeing that happen, then, they will know what to focus on.
996  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: buy fast and sell fast on: September 15, 2018, 06:40:28 PM
Buying fast and selling fast is the choice of short-term trading. If some of the coin is high volatility and they quickly change the price, then we should buy fast and sell fast.
You just sounded like a gambler, no offense! Buying fast and selling fast is not as simple as it is but the question you should be asking yourself at certain point in the market is where are you buying and where are you selling ?

It is one thing to want to buy fast, but you may actually end up catching a falling knife if care is not taken and most especially if you do not have any strategy at all. Learn, take time to know what is best for you and remember scalping requires a lot of concentration, discipline and principle, which makes it not for everyone.
997  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What will you do ? on: September 15, 2018, 05:19:59 PM
Undoubtedly Bitcoin is the best one. But it is very stable a coin, for which it is very difficult to get good profits at low investment. But if you invest in Etherium, then you can get a good profit in small investments.
The fact that it is like that is simply because it has more support than any other coin and I do not know what you mean by being profitable, it is still one of the most profitable so far as far as I am concerned, and it is still more matured than any other altcoin market as far as I am concerned.

It is only left for you to know how to trade and then take advantage of the opportunities with the fluctuations, and you will still see yourself in profit. Now, this does not mean, I do not agree that altcoins sometimes can make some pretty big move, but all that still depends on how you are able to play your card well.
998  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happened to this 'easy 10k'? on: September 15, 2018, 07:34:21 AM
only 70 percent ? what about the other 30 percent?  imo , bitcoin and other cryptos are not predicdable ( 100 % ) because they can still be manipulated by whales .  wrong prediction isnt also the main problem here because prediction are unreal  , we cant just totally depend on them .  @op there no such thing as easy on here  because 10k is already  a huge amount of money , so it isnt actually easy to reach it by just a short time span .
I wonder what is being meant in the first place by 70% being predictable or not. This is a market, nothing is predictable and the market can go to any direction contrary to what your analysis tells you and all we do is to just use these tools available to us to take certain market decisions but if it works every time as planned, there won’t be a need for stop loss. Nothing is easy just as you have said, and price movement takes time and it is a gradual thing. It is just more like you trying to find a direction, which is exactly what the market is doing.

Good news doesn't have so much reaction and it can't help somehow but it still influences.
We went through lows and dips, this can start and help reach $10,000 again.
But for now, its quite far through we're going $7,000 and everything is possible.
Well, I guess at this point in time, we may just have to find out if we are going to be able to break past this $7000 or we are going to end up breezing back down as the case may be. There is absolutely no easy way of the market hitting a certain amount, unless of course there is just one crazy news that brings about a very huge demand in the market, and every resistance and sell walls are being squashed with everyone trying to lay their hands on the little they still can, but we all know this can only happen that easy in dreams.
999  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will touch 20K USD end of 2018. What you think ? on: September 15, 2018, 06:53:32 AM
yes maybe that could happen but it seems that it will be very difficult to be able to recover because now there is no good news that can make the price of bitcoin experience a price increase.
That happening is under a lot of conditions that is hard to get and that makes it a bit impossible at the moment. We sure do not know what the future holds, but we know how fast the market is in going down and how slow it is trying to find even a little gain. Recently, we had a 2 weeks of gain erased in just few hours, and imagine on the way up to $20k, what would happen along the line. We have huge resistance above us and it all depends on when the market is going to be strong enough with demand to be able to break them and we do not look that strong at the moment.
1000  Economy / Speculation / Re: when will you learn price is not related to news on: September 14, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
Exactly, people should learn not to believe every news.
That is it, it is not like news will not always be good and there would still be some news that would help inform one's decision making. However, when it comes to the mainstream media, I want to believe that news and journalist has been so much bastardized that they really do not care about the authenticity of their news before even dropping it.

Now, what we cannot say exactly if this news is related to the drop in prices or if there are whales involved in the equation to create a panic or FOMO as the case may be, but the best is just to believe in what you believe in and take the mainstream media news most of the time as pinch of salt.
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