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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 21, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
So there could be infinite number of updates ) 1.1.5, 1.1.6, 1.1.6.02, 1.1.7.013 etc.

Alias transfer and DGS will come same time after being tested on testnet.  Major versions with major changes always run on test net for few weeks first before releasing it on main net. Test net can be reset, but breaking maim net is not option.

1.1.5 simply fixed one bug
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread on: June 19, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
The comparison you're making is unreasonable: Nxt fundraising was cut off early, with no warning.

It was open for 2 months and was cut off on Nov 18 and was launched officially on Nov 24 with coins distributed to everyone who joined.   You are correct there was no cut off announcement, but people could buy million per BTC for many weeks after the launch. Are you saying there were hundreds waiting for last minute? I doubt cut off announcement a week earlier would have made any big difference.
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread on: June 19, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
The creator of Nxt is still anonymous and, indeed, has not posted on Bitcointalk since early November.

Just as BTC creator is anonymous

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The fact that fewer than 80 addresses initially controlled all the Nxt is not some minor "detail" that will be forgotten in the future,

Just as one person owns 10% of BTC? Or 50% of peercoin are owned by top 60 addresses? Or just top 2 Litecoin addresses own 20% of all litecoin?   what's the big difference between 80 and 8000 when the population of the word is 7 billion?  Unless you can show a crypto that is distributed equally to all 7 billion, nothing about any distribution is "fair". All early adapters have large percentages.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT, the ultimate SCAM, will it die because of 100% pre-mine given to 50 people? on: June 19, 2014, 12:34:06 AM
why is it the Proof of Stake coins have so many kiddie fights?

I think TaunSew case is pretty clear. He is jealous of Nxt being #3 on coinmarketcapp Smiley  That attracts a lot of attention by itself
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 19, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
As I said I only bought NxT up as a point of comparison to your demand. It is a normal discussion technique. While all comparison I made about NxT's IPO, big holder holding percentage etc. are factual and reasonable, you vehemently defended NxT, accused me of lying. You did all of that with no regard to how these discussions relate to NEM. That's not sticking to the topic.

You made a factual statement that all Nxt developers hold 5% each. This was factual untrue. Only CfB was original stake holder and a developer (not 5% one). Jean Luc was an investor who became "developer" later. No other Nxt developer is a original stake holder and none of them hold 5% of Nxt


Show the quote? You are accusing me of writing something I did not again. This is not the first time you did that.

I went back and I see you actually said " JeanLuc and several Nxt whales holding 5% of Nxt each". I read  "whales" as "developers".

Sorry about that.

There are only 2 who hold 5% each (JC is not one of them unless he spilt his account), and no I don't have a problem with that, just as I don't have a problem with satoshi holding 10% of BTC. They invested 1 BTC  in an unknown IPO when such a thing wasn't common on BT forum  and got lucky it wasn't a scam and prices went up.

526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
As I said I only bought NxT up as a point of comparison to your demand. It is a normal discussion technique. While all comparison I made about NxT's IPO, big holder holding percentage etc. are factual and reasonable, you vehemently defended NxT, accused me of lying. You did all of that with no regard to how these discussions relate to NEM. That's not sticking to the topic.

You made a factual statement that all Nxt developers hold 5% each. This was factually untrue. Only CfB was original stake holder and a developer (not 5% one). Jean Luc was an investor who became "developer" later - -much later -- after the launch. It's not clear if he owns 5% as you claimed.  No other Nxt developer is original stake holder and none of them hold 5% of Nxt

527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 11:41:14 PM
If this guy keeps his stake and trello position then it only looks bad for NEM.  

I don't think it's as bad as what UF did with trolling with sock puppets Wink You cannot take away anyone "stakes" unless they are sock puppets.

Sorry to disappoint you Smiley

528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 11:36:09 PM
But some of your Nxt guys are disgusting.

Not as disgusting as yours amd TaunSew ranting about Nxt. This is Nem thread. Why can't you stick to that topic?

529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
Every time I come to this thread wishing to read about NEM all I see is NXT, NXT and NXT. Is it just me? Could we discuss NEM more here?

Totem22 and Eadeqa, please be kind enough to continue your Nxt fight somewhere else(maybe Nxt thread).


I do not mention Nxt. I am interested in Nem as I bought several stakes. It's one of UF several sock puppet who keeps bringing Nxt.

I will not mention Nxt unless someone is outright posting lies
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:40:22 PM

These are insider accounts. Friends of bcnext and cfb. Key words: not selling a single cent; not normal behavior.

No evidence of course, just speculation. How do we know you aren't UF's one of 2000 sock puppet accounts (with Nem stakes of course).  The fact doesn't change: Nxt IPO was open for 2 months. Anyone was free to join. The coins were distributed to everyone who joined.

Why the fuck do you keep discussing Nxt in this thread?
 
Stick to Nem discussion and I won't mention Nxt ever. Post lies about other crypto and I will correct you like I just did
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:39:25 PM

The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly. We can debate about his intention forever but that fact does not change. There are several accounts of 50 million NxT that never sold a single cent up to now. These are insider accounts because these behaviors are not the behaviors of a regular investor.

Not "several" but just two. What does this prove?  Maybe these guys are smarter and they know Nxt will rise even higher?

532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
Jaguar0625, I want to say I don't have any problem with 25% development stakes. You guys absolutely deserve it, and all the money raised during the IPO. Far more than UF for example.

I just don't to this to overboard with there are very large amount of unclaimed stakes.

533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
The fact : NxT IPO

Are you a sockpuppet of TaunSew? Grin

He does sound like sock puppet as TaunSew is the only person who I remember who made that statement about Nxt didn't do "taint analysis". What's so hard to fool "taint analysis"? It's easy.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:15:26 PM
The NXT IPO was closed early and without notice (that is a fact). That shut out a lot of potential investors who were waiting until the last minute to invest. They, understandably, wanted to get as much information as possible before investing. Let's not dwell on this because it is in the past, but it did happen.

Lesson: don't wait till last minute to invest.  IPO was closed on Nov 18 (after 2 months -- but yes it was sudden announcement) and Nxt was officially launched on Nov 24

The fact : NxT genesis block had 73 accounts. 8 accounts were distributed 40% of NxT. BCNext flatly refused to do taint analysis and closed the IPO suddenly.

Care to post links to the posts? Sock puppets was not a problem back then, and since the data is still available on blockchain.info, why don't you do taint analysis and post for us?
 
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
Needless to say one could buy high volumes of dirt cheap NXT weeks after launch, check old trading threads. Unfortunately I missed out back then (stupid me).

This is a good point. It was easy to get 1 million Nxt for just 1 BTC weeks after the launch, as this thread shows
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345336.0

so there was still plenty of opportunity to buy large chunk
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
Can an easy on point thread be made for this?

Nem is not yet launched so there is no claim right now. You will know it when that happens
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 10:01:18 PM

So, if I remember correctly, BCNext and JeanLuc each sent 1 BTC to the NXT IPO and CfB send 0.1 BTC. That equates to 10% of NXT (and this is only including three of the developers). In addition, the 25% of unclaimed NXT stakes were given to the core NXT team as a community fund. In all, that's 35% controlled by the core NXT team, and I think that coin has been successful.

Please let me know if I got anything wrong.

There is no evidence that BCNext sent anything one way or the other. I don't really know how much JeanLuc sent, but JeanLuc was a total clueless about Nxt (you can read his early posts in original IPO).  He was not the developer or involved in any way with the project. He was just an ordinary investor at that time.

538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
The NXT IPO was closed early and without notice (that is a fact). That shut out a lot of potential investors who were waiting until the last minute to invest. They, understandably, wanted to get as much information as possible before investing. Let's not dwell on this because it is in the past, but it did happen.

Lesson: don't wait till last minute to invest.  IPO was closed on Nov 18 (after 2 months -- but yes it was sudden announcement) and Nxt was officially launched on Nov 24
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Looks like we found two sock puppets gemstar5000 and mr smith. How many more sock puppets this guy have? I have seen this guy with other IDs too

540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
Come on DEVs this is a moderated thread we're all tired of listening to this idiot spewing the same garbage like a broken record. Banish him to the unmoderated thread with the rest of the trolling fools, he's made his point now, over and over and over and.......

Thanks for letting us know that you want censor all  legitimate posts in this thread that aren't about "to da moon"

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