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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:53 AM

Eadeqa, I don't know what your agenda is, but it seems very suspicious.


My points are pretty clear,. What exactly do you not understand? We have 25% of stakes controlled by a few people known as "developers" and co. Then makoto1337 has publicly stated (see above) that all unclaimed coins will also go to developer's fund TOO. Nxt was launched just 2 months after IPO and 25% of people never came back to claim their coins. Given much longer delay, this number could be even higher, but lets assume it's 25%

25% + 25% = 50%
 
Half the coins will be in control of very few insiders for "development" purposes of course.

Rest of 3000 stakeholder will have to play with 50%, but amazingly,  the guys  also intend to sell another 150 stakes from that  50% as auction  for more money.

I don't think there have ever been any coin launched (except ripple and a few country coins) with so much centralized control

562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread [Updates & Discussion][Civilized Discussion] on: June 18, 2014, 02:54:19 AM
I oppose pre launch public auction, as that means 400 BTC IPO is going into someone pocket  at current prices.

If developers want 400 BTC more, why they also need 15% stake too  (which is 600 million Nem)



Money is used to pay for ecosystem dev, etc. Those stakes are only worth 400 BTC because of our efforts, so what is the problem?

Those stakes are NOT worth 400 BTC because of your efforts as nothing is released. They are worth 400 BTC because of the entire community and supporter.

So let get this straight.

(1) You want 15% of stakes  -- that's 600 stakes for anyone not counting, or 600 million Nem --   (reserved 10% more for future)
(2) You want 66 BTC and several thousand Nxt that were collected during IPO
(3) Now on top of that you want to sell 200 more stakes before the launch for additional 400 BTC (which is essentially a second IPO)
(4) No definite statement made about what you will do with unclaimed stakes.

The whole thing is intended to make 8 "developers" rich very fast before the launch (or just after).

 Good luck to "rest" of the community since if developer dump even 50% of the 15% (300 million) it will tank the prices for all of you bought it on Nxt AE, while developers are already rich.  




563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 18, 2014, 02:42:45 AM
I can't believe how 2 weeks old member of community could get 1M NXT for development  Huh

What can I say ?
BM/Joshua seemed sane at the time
 

I don't know if he was involved the other scam, but he clearly  was using this incident to run away from project he himself initiated, along with the money he was paid.
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 09:01:02 PM
Since jl77 lost most of they money (1 million nxt) now that he knows the identity, there can civil lawsuit if he wants the money back
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
All investors in NXTventure got scammed by BM. NXTventure is a widely held asset and represents the NXT community

NXTventure payment to bm's acct for 1 million NXT 9677367184378728685
https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041
{"asset":"16212446818542881180","comment":"Here is 1% of NXTVenture\r\nThank you for trusting me to do your offering!\r\n\r\nJames","quantityQNT":"10000"}

Lets not confuse the issue guys.

bluemeanie1  is scammer who stole well over 100 BTC (much higher) from Nxt community.

Do we know anything about this scammer real identity?

Maybe someone can set up a bounty to track this scammer down


i have private addresses, phone numbers, mails and skype. were rather easy to find;

if u need confirmed addresses and further details, just contact privacy@dynadot.com (joshuazeidner.com), they have all the details available to share.

infos that can be publicly posted:

Name: Joshua Zeidner
Location: Phoenix, AZ, United States
Email: jjzeidner@gmail.com
Skype: joshzeidner
Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/100818431569428589869/posts

one of the addresses (censored) according to internet laws.

**** ******** Polk St Phoenix, AZ 85007


Good work.

Thanks

566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
I though he was Dutch...

No, seem to be in the US

http://buildership.ning.com/profile/JoshuaZeidner

Joshua Zeidner
Male
Phoenix, AZ
United States


567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 08:39:25 PM
more lies from anonymous posters.  no money was stolen by me.

Proof was posted from blockchain that you cashed 1 million Nxt on Bter. Where did that money come from? It was  advanced payment for a project that you posted on Nxt forum

You scammed a lot of people with a lot more money than 70 BTC

Where is the money?

what people were scammed?


All investors in NXTventure got scammed by BM. NXTventure is a widely held asset and represents the NXT community

NXTventure payment to bm's acct for 1 million NXT 9677367184378728685
https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041
{"asset":"16212446818542881180","comment":"Here is 1% of NXTVenture\r\nThank you for trusting me to do your offering!\r\n\r\nJames","quantityQNT":"10000"}

Lets not confuse the issue guys.

bluemeanie1  is scammer who stole well over 100 BTC (much higher) from Nxt community.

Do we know anything about this scammer real identity?

Maybe someone can set up a bounty to track this scammer down

568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
more lies from anonymous posters.  no money was stolen by me.

Proof was posted from blockchain that you cashed 1 million Nxt on Bter. Where did that money come from? It was  advanced payment for a project that you posted on Nxt forum

You scammed a lot of people with a lot more money than 70 BTC

Where is the money?
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 07:52:07 PM

ya let's trivialize the problem and then start attacking me more.


you stole more than 70 BTC. At current exchange rate (you sold higher), you stole 1 million Nxt that is at least 115 BTC
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 07:23:41 PM
 They do seem interested in roasting someone who just can't stomach watching these people just rob the public blind with these stupid tricks.

The only proven fact so far is that you scammed 1 million Nxt by claiming to be a "developer" and cashed out the money on bter as Damelon posted the link to your Nxt account with evidence from blockchain. Funny how all these scammers shout "foul"  and point fingers at others.

571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NAS :: Descendant of NXT 100% PoS|WinNAS is ready! on: June 17, 2014, 07:02:01 PM
The multiGateway sounds like a game changer!

It's not a game changer until developer post clear explanation on how this thing works.

Is it trustless? If not, where are bitcoin private keys stored?  Is it centralized server? Where is the guarantee that money will not be stolen from that server?

Until the developer posts clear answers to this question with proof that centralized server is safe and is close to trustless, no one should use it --- if they don't want lose their money, that is.  
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NAS :: Descendant of NXT 100% PoS|WinNAS is ready! on: June 17, 2014, 06:59:47 PM
Winnas0.2 has beed rebuilded from scratch with MultiGateway.
V_0.2 need more test, deposit,withdraw & transfer etc, all history of Multigateway are in nas blockchain.
Generate BTC/NXT address need 10NAS fee.

How exactly does MultiGateway work? Is there a third party server where bitcoin private key is stored? Who owns that server? What if that server is hacked? Who is responsible for stolen money?
Can Mutigateway solve the centralization problem in the normal trade platform?
I guess mutigateway can solve part of centralization problem, such as keeping watch on accounts, instant transaction etc.It's impossible solving every problem in the normal trade platform.

The developer did not answer my question.

How exactly is this thing mutigateway ?

Where are bitcoin private key stores? Is it centralized server?

What happens if that serrver is hacked all of the bitcoins are stolen?
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 06:50:10 PM
Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything.  Wink

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.


Once again it was not obvious if his account was NOT hacked. Why does this guy keep repeating the same lie over and over again calling it "obvious"?

BM is obviously retarded.

Too bad for people who gave him money for a project.
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: NFD trading thread: first fairly distributed NXT clone. on: June 17, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
If you really want to trade user to user, please always use a trusted escrow service!!
Don't cry if you don't get your coins from your trade partner!


How about setting bounties for getting it on exchange site?

575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 06:14:34 PM
But in the meantime, lets trump up charges about absolutely nothing to someone who is pointing out what a fraud this is!

How is it trumped up charges? You yourself admitted in this thread you  were paid money for project that you now don't intend to finish?
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 06:11:10 PM
it didn't come from a committee account.  There were funds spent by committee and I have no intention of leaving that unsettled.

I see so you think it's perfectly fine to scam individual users whose money you stole by claiming you are a "developer"  who is working on some Nxt project, but it's not okay to steal money from community fund. Now it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks for confirming you are a scammer
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 06:05:13 PM

its interesting that there was a very obvious criminal act here, this person seems to be walking scot free,


This sentence shows your true character as it is certainly not "obvious" if John account was hacked. Your scam is pretty obvious to me, though.
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 06:03:16 PM
there was a community tech dev payment that I have already claimed I am willing to refund(even though I dont think I'm liable).  That was really the only credible body that was involved in this and I only intend to cooperate with them.

Not liable? You were paid money for some project that you agreed to do (in fact you yourself proposed)  that you now say wont to do after the payment is received. Looks like a typical scam.

579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 05:31:55 PM
just to give you an example, there was never a community payment of 1 million nxt.  I already claimed that I would be willing to refund(at my own cost) the payment from the Technical Development Committee.  

Post the transaction ID when you do it.  I doubt you are "refunding" anything as you are the one who seem to be the scammer who just showed up recently. I read your post where you claimed John just showed up recently. Funny how would a newbie scammer like you to Nxt would know something like that?    He didn't just show up recently. He has been around with Nxt long before you, since almost the beginning.

580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big scam in NXT hundreds of BTC stolen with a one post on: June 17, 2014, 05:26:19 PM

It's kind bad press for NXT.

This scammer scammed bitcoins, not nxt.
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