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661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEM's leader utopianfuture RETIRED after mistake posting w. sockpuppet acc on: June 13, 2014, 04:45:24 AM
Having said all that, I would like to thank utopianfuture for what he has done for NEM up until now. Without utopianfuture, NEM wouldn't exist. He conceived of the idea and recruited a lot of the core dev team, including myself. He has also done a number of things behind the scenes, including paying some out-of-pocket costs (in fiat).

Just words shouldn't be enough. I don't want UP to be totally out, but his developer shares should be cut in half.
662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 12, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Ok, UF doesnt like Simcoin and he created 2 fake accounts  for posting on Simcoin thread.

Of course he can't use UF account and writing on another post. He make a mistake, it's not nice to insult others devs ( I LIKE SIMCOIN)

but that doesnt have nothing with NEM.

UF is doing great job for NEM.


This is  not all. Those two fake accounts were also on Nem stakeholder list so he has been using sock puppet accounts to claim even more stakes than what he is already getting (percentage of 10%)
663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] Grand Vote! To Remove or not to Remove utopianfuture from NEM? on: June 12, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
UP could resign himself and give Nem more credibility. I wonder if he will do it though.

664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 12, 2014, 09:14:06 PM
This is the point when you see the good use of self-moderated thread.

Trolls should be simply kicked out.

The problem is UP is the moderator  Wink

Is this thread moderated?
665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 12, 2014, 09:11:53 PM
seems that the distribution is even worst than NXT.
so what we have? a non tested/used coin?

How is the distribution all of a sudden worse than NXT ?

Nxt did not have 10% developer's stakes, and there is no evidence BCNext used sockpuppet to claim stakes (maybe he did, but at least he wasn't caught with it : )

666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: June 12, 2014, 11:21:50 AM
anybody want to start a exo trading thread before we hit a exchange platform?

I want if u start. Cool,i have 1.5btc 1st exo .

Someone should put it on NXT AE.

This would require a trusted gateway

Who would we trust? Anon is obvious choice but he is busy with silver

Find a trusted gateway and it will be great idea
667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 12, 2014, 10:44:31 AM
Distribution is now able to be viewed here:

http://nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735

3 accounts with over 10 Stakes (not counting UP!)


Cool but this was going to happen anyway even if there were no tokens. Some whales would have bought 10 million early after the launch

Check this and you will see that sharkfund0's big volume is really caused by 1 shark moving fund from 1 account to another to artificially inflate the volume. I don't want to say that's shady but you don't deny that NEmstak is the biggest, most important trading asset in Nxt AE by far.

This might be true. All Jl77 assets seem hot air to me.

However, once Nxt has bitcoin and US dollars assets with trusted gateways those will take largest volume pretty fast.

NxtHaus is supposed to be US dollars asset, which is coming up soon



668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 12, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
PayExpo Speech

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-putZyRQ5-5RWo3TFVMazBBRTA/edit
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] No IPO - NXT fork - NFD distribution on: June 12, 2014, 08:16:30 AM

you can change their passwords and send them a pm with new password ( so we don't have to wait for them)

No, we don't have to wait for them, but they havre to change the password themselves. If they don't the funds eventually go into development/community funds   
670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] No IPO - NXT fork - NFD distribution on: June 12, 2014, 05:33:32 AM
I updated the spreadsheet with calculated account numbers.
The data are based on Nxtblg distribution list from 2014/06/11 10:11 pm UTC

http://download.nfdcoin.com/NFD-Distribution-Hash-Check.xlsx

There are still weak secrets, incorrect hashes and accounts used by at least two or three investors at once.

I will not distribute NFD coins to accounts which having problems or major security issues!
This coins will be held back until issues are solved.

If you send us an email and your data is still not updated, please have in mind, that we are still working through the pms!
Please be patient.
does the password must more than 32 characters ?

It is recommended to use 35 characters long.
I myself use only 22 characters but my account was not in the weak password list.

If your 22 char password is not in password database or a quote that appears in any literature, and it's not predictable easily, it's pretty safe. 35 is used as precaution as people kept using famous quotes or passwords in database.

No password larger than 12 random char has ever been been brute forced.  The key word is random. If it's a phrase from a famous song, that is a different story
671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 12, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
Distribution is now able to be viewed here:

http://nxtreporting.com/?as=12465186738101000735

3 accounts with over 10 Stakes (not counting UP!)


Cool but this was going to happen anyway even if there were no tokens. Some whales would have bought 10 million early after the launch
672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 11, 2014, 06:47:32 PM
i'm undecided,
is it better to buy a stake now ,
Or will there be a massive dump after it hits the exchange

i want in, i just don;t want to pay 20 x more  Huh

Hard to tell, but I think the valuation will be 10x what it is now when launch comes, so even if you buy now I don't think you will lose anything in the long term.

You think it will launch at 50 million dollars?
i can't recall one coin which has ever launched at that market cap,



aurora?

Due to bad math.  That was when Gliss (dp*) on coinmarket cap was including the unowned premine for country coins.  I don't think the owned part of Aurora was $50 million at any point


Aurora was not launched at 50 million. For a month it was trading for under a dollar. It went up fast when an exchange added it. I bought it for something like $3 and sold it later when it was high.

Of course the market cap was artificially inflated due to locked pre mined coins that weren't tradable.
673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 06:41:48 PM
There has to be someone somewhere that knows how to get those returned...right? Utopianfuture? Anyone? Pleeeeaaaseee?!?!

You could ask UP to make an exception for you and send you 0.X NEMtokens, because you clearly destroyed those NXT. Its like Proof of burn.

Would be a nice gesture of the NEM community to a newbie!

What kind of suggestion is that? NEMtokens are not mine to reward, or make an exception. Everyone of them will be accountable by someone.

@strapon: the cold-hard truth is that you lost your Nxt. I hardly see how it is related to me, especially in an official capacity. There are only two sides that should take the blame. One is yourself and the second is perhaps the Nxt address format.  


In this case address format isn't the issue, as the same would have happened with BTC if he sent it to correctly typed but wrong address.

674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 11, 2014, 06:34:44 PM
NXT is a cryptocurrency? Are you sure?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Where is the source code? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/overview

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NXT decentralized via the web interface, it is a joke?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Where is the server, on Russia? The FSB will not close your server?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

There is no "server". The server is on your own machine and is called NRS. Since the client is written in javascript, a web browser can open it, but there is no third party server. It connects to your own server running on the same computer at localhost or http://127.0.0.1:7876/
675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 05:41:45 PM
There has to be someone somewhere that knows how to get those returned...right? Utopianfuture? Anyone? Pleeeeaaaseee?!?!

Had you sent it to UP Nxt address that starts with Nxt-, UP would have returned it, but you sent it to numeric asset ID (not account ID) No one controls that account.  
676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 05:19:54 PM

Ouch. That's a lot. Why send that many Nxt to a new account without first verifying everything is working properly? Should have sent 4 Nxt from faucet, tested it by creating alias or something, then sent the rest.
677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
Ahhh now that I'm back in my account (thanks!) I realized I sent the next to the nem asset id instead of my wallet id. Is it wishful thinking that I could ever get this returned. I might suicide today if not!!!

Yes, your NXT are lost if you sent them to Nem asset ID. How many Nxt?

Also, use RS address format that starts with Nxt- ... it has error detection and won't let you mistype.
678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
Please tell me I'm not screwed. Sent lots of NXT to my NXT Wallet...after it didn't show up for a bit I logged out and logged back in. When I logged back in the address was different and it was saying my account was brand new? What happened? So confused. Thanks for your time!

You are using different password that will result in different account. It can happen when people either mistype their password, or do copy and paste from notepad and end up with extra space at the beginning or the the end. Carefully check if you are entering the password correctly.

Use password manager instead of typing or using notrepad, use  something like https://lastpass.com/
679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 11, 2014, 10:59:06 AM
Looks like Nxt got a huge coverage at PayExpo for next two days

https://twitter.com/nextcoiner

TV cameras, all new audience who probably don't know much crypto, and  contacts with important people

This was expensive trip but probably worth the money as there is no other crypto, not even bitcoin, at payexpo.


Pictures are interesting https://twitter.com/nextcoiner/media

680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 06:52:17 AM
NXT ticked me off by being closed source.

NXT has been open source for a long time now.

Nxt never was really closed source for those who wanted to look, the original java files were unobfuscated code and could be decompiled.

The point was they went out of their way to try and hide.

I hope NEM follows a clear transparent path.

If Nem released the source code immediately, they would be cloned  a few dozen times within a week. Maybe someone will launch it even before Nem is officially launched if the source code is released during alpha/beta.
 
it's bad idea to release the code before Nem is  at least established as unique new crypto


But the one with the strongest community wins out. NEM already has a strong community. Keeping the source open will build trust and will also allow for others to contribute.

I believe the upsides are much more than any downsides.

Funny Nxt released the source code in January and the prices went down for 2 months after that.. Look at Windows OS. 90%+ market share but it's closed source platform. Most people don't care about open source.

Developers and exchanges don't need source code. They need API, which obviously will be available from alpha version.

I am all for open source, but they need to give themselves some breathing room before getting drowned  by clones.





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