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741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are all american racists? Do they hate all outsiders/immigrants? on: March 05, 2017, 02:36:52 PM
No, Prince, no.

On the immigration front in the US there are three types of people:
  • People who embrace immigrants
  • People who fear immigrants may be taking their jobs, because these people have lost jobs and needs jobs...everyone needs a job, unless you're an American politician
  • People who are racist

This applies to legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants spans two categories - those that don't care about illegal immigrants coming into the US and those that do.

Which is believe it or not composition of population anywhere in the world. Some people are welcoming to outsiders more than others. And indeed it is more often than not tied to value of said migrants.

Yet, only in USA this leads to almost "state-at-war" standoff between population. I suspect multiculturalism might be the primary cause.
742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iran announces successful test of $800m Russia-built air defence system on: March 05, 2017, 02:33:17 PM
Forrester,

you are grossly misinformed. Iraq was never armed with such air defense system. The rest of the analogies are wrong too, as Iran doesnt resemble Iraq in any way but the nominal faith of its citizens.

Yet, sadly, it illustrates that many westerners see Iran as "mortal enemy" even though that country never invaded any neighbour in the past two centuries.

Just my two cents.
Now all the Arab countries in the West appear to be enemies. Iran is in this list, the leading place because he's trying to develop nuclear weapons. Adds a positive image of Iran and its bellicose statements towards America.

1) Iran is not arab country or should I say it is about as arabic as United States are chinese.

2) In fact there is deep rooted conflict in middle East, where Saudia Arabia (which is actually Arab) supported by NATO fights for dominance with Iran supported by China and Russia. Now, Saudis support global jihadist network (vast majority of 9/11 attackers were from this country), Iran supports militias in countries with shia populations (Syria, Yemen, Iraq) thus shifting dominance from sunni arab bloc.

It is geopolitics, terrorism is merely tool of trade there.

3) Also, I have no idea about nuclear weapons program ongoing in Iran, might be or might be not. What I do know is that governments of countries, which DO HAVE nukes threatened Iran with them. Hillary Clinton just several months ago. Iran has become victim of western supplied chemical WMDs in the past. Back in those times, when Saddam was still friend of the west, so I wouldnt be that suprised if they were working on WMDs of their own as a countermeasure.

743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: March 05, 2017, 02:23:21 PM
First, thanks for good advice.

I wonder however, what kind of influence on price can full resuming of bitcoin withdrawals on chinese exchanges have. It might be just around the corner.

Will there be mass sells sending exchanges into temporary shock or will it actually strenghten confidence in current rates that we have?

source?

when was this said will happen?



Well informed rumors.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-exchange-bter-resumes-withdrawals-good-start-for-china

BtcChina is also supposed to return to processing withdrawals after march 15th. Okcoin is already serving withdrawal requests from identity verified customers from abroad. It should stop bear-mongering about Chinese being Karpeleses in disguise.
744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: March 04, 2017, 04:15:42 PM
Lots of bearish wishful thinking for a bubble-like environment. Good luck getting your coins back cheaper, I guess.

Not sure, where is value in your post, but I will respond anyway.

This thread is not bearish at all. Quite the opposite, try to read more carefully. Members are simply looking at depth and length of upcoming correction, that will support long term growth. Being bearish is something completely different, Mr. Investor.
745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The anti-Putin paranoia. on: March 04, 2017, 03:53:56 PM
And what is the number of migrants from Turkmenistan in Russia? Probably in Moscow there is not any one Russian janitor. Let me remind you that the Turkmens are Muslims.

Turkmenistan is a very rich country (thanks to huge deposits of natural gas) and they don't need to send their working age adults to Russia. Most of the immigrants to Russia are from poverty-ridden countries such as Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Tajikistan, Moldova, and Kyrgyzstan.
And you want to say that Russian citizens live well? Reserves of Russian gas and oil much more than in Turkmenistan. It seems to me that the welfare of citizens depends not on fossil fuels, but from the corrupt government.

PER CAPITA. Turkmenistan is indeed very wealthy given its historical status as backwater. Russia has 30x more population. Like comparing poorer parts of United States to Norway for example.

I dont think there are many people, who can claim with straight face that their particular government is not corrupt at all. However it is worth mention, that United States spend more on its military than is entire state budget of Russian federation (yes, including welfare, schooling and infrastructure costs).
This is because in America there are so many thieves in power. Putin himself is a thief and has surrounded himself with the same people as he did. Moreover it destroys any dissent. So Russian will be a very long time to live in squalor.

Let me rephrase the argument then.

Can you cite any, and I mean ANY era where people inhabiting Russia enjoyed better living standarts than today? You can link sources and numbers, so we can make this more interesting.

Because I can bet with you, that you wont find it.

Also as far as "America" goes, I believe you mean specifically United States, not rest of the wide continent - it is fine. Corrupt perhaps, but due to geopolitics and protestant mentality of the founders, you enjoy perhaps highest living standarts in the world while still retaining freedoms that are unheard of else where. Russia cannot compare, but not because it would be even more corrupt, but because its past and quite long history has been so much more turbulent.
746  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Conservatives/Republicans should be banned from America on: March 04, 2017, 03:49:03 PM
As far as I know there's roughly two groups of people in America, democrats and republicans. Someone who wants to ban one of those groups is likely to belong to the other group.  Why would want to ban a group that serves as your counterpart in political discussion? Is it because you can't get the other group to accept your points of view? Then you're no good at debating, or your arguments are to weak.

But simply banning because you disagree or because you think these people are bad for your health. That sir, is uncut fascism.
It's certainly not fascism, but it is not democracy. Bans parties will not forbid people have an opinion. If people disagree with your statements then you do not know how to persuade or your opinion is wrong. Only in a dispute born truth.

Responding to political dissent by deportations and state directed violence is very close to fascism, actually. Which is precisely what OP is proposing here. Otherwise, I agree with your post completely, sir. When I am unable to prove my point to the other party, it doesnt mean other party needs to be deported. It simply means that I am either wrong and/or terrible at argumenting.
747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Iran announces successful test of $800m Russia-built air defence system on: March 04, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
Forrester,

you are grossly misinformed. Iraq was never armed with such air defense system. The rest of the analogies are wrong too, as Iran doesnt resemble Iraq in any way but the nominal faith of its citizens.

Yet, sadly, it illustrates that many westerners see Iran as "mortal enemy" even though that country never invaded any neighbour in the past two centuries.

Just my two cents.
748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Germany getting near the end? on: March 04, 2017, 03:37:10 PM
unfortunately i think not, the economy's in decent shape and most people still aren't directly being made to feel the effects of the invasion, probably a few more years of merkel or something like merkel before things really kick off

It's still scary to hear that this situation has escalated to this, should it take more dead people for them to do something about it?

I doubt more dead people will change anything. Merkel effectively destroyed all her opponents in her own party and all other parties in Bundestag actually support her stance on immigration and reverse racism.

Germany at its current state is no more democratic than People Republic of China. Power is completely centralized and any kind of dissent is hammered from all sides.

you know nothing about the rest of the world. Believe me Germany is far more democratic than Russia, China, Turkey, etc.

Germanys executive leader breached international law and her countrys law by suspending border control, inticing hundreds of thousands of people to pour into the country through hapless "allies" of Germany in south and east of the continent. All the while turning blind eye to violence commited both by migrants (especially in refugee camps against women and children) and ultra-left activists rallying around militant Antifa organization.

She created unrest and blatantly went against law.

Brexit is just a start of this destructive process where rule of law is upholded selectively without regard for wishes and interests of tax payers, which are actually paying for the circus.

So.

Please, educate me, how exactly are both german and other european citizens supposed to defend themselves against attack on their freedoms and rights democratically? By more BREXITs? As I have said, chancellor has virtually no opposition in either Bundestag or EU parlament in spite of all of this. It is fascimile of democracy. China has parliament too, you know? It matters about as much.

In working country. Democratic or not, that woman would be in prison by now. Yet, all you hapless slaves have to say. "Oh, oh, she said she will solve everything in no time!" No, shit Sherlock, she created the problem for you and the rest of Europe in the first place.
749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nights Watch by Afrikoin on: March 04, 2017, 02:03:40 PM
First, thanks for good advice.

I wonder however, what kind of influence on price can full resuming of bitcoin withdrawals on chinese exchanges have. It might be just around the corner.

Will there be mass sells sending exchanges into temporary shock or will it actually strenghten confidence in current rates that we have?
750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Germany getting near the end? on: March 04, 2017, 01:59:42 PM
unfortunately i think not, the economy's in decent shape and most people still aren't directly being made to feel the effects of the invasion, probably a few more years of merkel or something like merkel before things really kick off

It's still scary to hear that this situation has escalated to this, should it take more dead people for them to do something about it?

I doubt more dead people will change anything. Merkel effectively destroyed all her opponents in her own party and all other parties in Bundestag actually support her stance on immigration and reverse racism.

Germany at its current state is no more democratic than People Republic of China. Power is completely centralized and any kind of dissent is hammered from all sides.
751  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Conservatives/Republicans should be banned from America on: March 04, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
As far as I know there's roughly two groups of people in America, democrats and republicans. Someone who wants to ban one of those groups is likely to belong to the other group.  Why would want to ban a group that serves as your counterpart in political discussion? Is it because you can't get the other group to accept your points of view? Then you're no good at debating, or your arguments are to weak.

But simply banning because you disagree or because you think these people are bad for your health. That sir, is uncut fascism.

Yeah, only difference between such SJWs and KKK is that they would cleanse according to nominal political orientation, not amount of melanin in skin. I wonder when did America went full retard and become a gulag?

And there are more questions. Would he cleanse only registered republicans or anybody with "conservative" leanings? What is "conservative", anyway? If one is registered democrat but considers heterosexual family to be building stone of society... will he get deported too?

How about black and/or muslim people, who are opposed against transgender lobby? Load them onto trains to camps too? Or will they get pass because minority status?

The more you start thinking about this, the more obvious it is, that these people are neither liberal, not democratic. In fact they passionately hate both.
752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Conservatives/Republicans should be banned from America on: March 04, 2017, 01:50:11 PM
Alright, let's see. Conservatives tend to be

1) Religious/Christian and try and make laws that suit their (false and hypocritical) beliefs. Yea gay marriage shouldn't be allowed but divorcing is totally fine? A prime example of a hypocrite

2) Believe that global warming does not exist (Global warming does exist, not just by the hole in the ozone layer, but by obvious things, go take into account the millions of cars, airplanes, coal plants, etc releasing tons of abnormal and excess carbon dioxide, monoxide, etc and tell me that doesn't affect the environment. All that man-made technology has to have an affect on a planet which has never experienced any such thing before)

3) Are usually sexist and tend to not support women's rights such as the right to have an abortion(Abortion is NOT the killing of babies, abortion is basically the taking of stem cells before they form into an actual fetus. If you consider "cells" as being alive, then everyone on planet earth is a murderer because our skin sheds millions of cells everyday)

4) Tend to be more racist than any other political party as proven by the fact that most KKK members and other racial groups identify as conservative

5) Support having low to no restrictions on gun handling and buying. Let's take this into account, in order to drive a car you need a license and rigorous training of the laws of the road, as well as how to actually drive the car. Well, in some states you don't even need to have a gun license to buy a gun or even know how to shoot the gun in order to buy one. Does that make any damn sense when a average gun is far more dangerous and cheaper to buy than a car ? No, therefore I come to believe that anyone who supports the buying of guns without rigorous testing and at least having a license, is heavily retarded or wants to watch the world burn



The only logical conclusion is to get rid of conservatives from america. Like how trump is deporting illegal immigrants, well conservatives go against the constitution itself(such as trying to integrate religious belief with law, etc)

I find it hilarious that you object against stereotyping people, yet that is precisely what you are doing here. Ie. anybody with "conservative" beliefs is evil, you are not even ashamed to lump them together with historical KKK organization.

And what do you propose to get rid of the boogieman? Basically, a genocide. Going house to house and cleansing country in fire.

I think, you should look into mirror very thoroughly. Social justice warriors seem to have uncanny habit of becoming the very thing they claim to fight against. Bigoted haters.
753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The anti-Putin paranoia. on: March 04, 2017, 01:45:36 PM
And what is the number of migrants from Turkmenistan in Russia? Probably in Moscow there is not any one Russian janitor. Let me remind you that the Turkmens are Muslims.

Turkmenistan is a very rich country (thanks to huge deposits of natural gas) and they don't need to send their working age adults to Russia. Most of the immigrants to Russia are from poverty-ridden countries such as Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Tajikistan, Moldova, and Kyrgyzstan.
And you want to say that Russian citizens live well? Reserves of Russian gas and oil much more than in Turkmenistan. It seems to me that the welfare of citizens depends not on fossil fuels, but from the corrupt government.

PER CAPITA. Turkmenistan is indeed very wealthy given its historical status as backwater. Russia has 30x more population. Like comparing poorer parts of United States to Norway for example.

I dont think there are many people, who can claim with straight face that their particular government is not corrupt at all. However it is worth mention, that United States spend more on its military than is entire state budget of Russian federation (yes, including welfare, schooling and infrastructure costs).
754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The anti-Putin paranoia. on: March 03, 2017, 07:55:50 PM
Putin stands up for the rights of ethnic Russians, both in Russia and abroad. That puts him in direct conflict with the other heads of states from the Western nations, as they give priority to the foreign immigrants over the natives. 

How much immigrants come to Russia from 2001 untul now, under the rule of Putin&co?

The immigrant situation is bad in Russia. But at the same time, at least 50% of these immigrants were whites or non-white Christians, from Ukraine, Moldova, Armenia.etc. In the Western nations, more than 90% of the immigrants are non-Christian. Also, most of the immigrants to Russia are temporary job seekers.
And what is the number of migrants from Turkmenistan in Russia? Probably in Moscow there is not any one Russian janitor. Let me remind you that the Turkmens are Muslims.

There might be up to ten million seasonal (that is important) migrants to Russia. Primarily from Ukraine and yes, even from central Asia. Immigration is not the problem. Twisting your country laws to accomodate them, while making native population second class citizens is. It creates environment rife for social unrest and eventually racism. Instituted from above, mind you.

That is not the case in Russia, where migrants have to work and dont get any social benefits, unless they assimilate.

It is the case for western Europe and northern America, however.
755  Economy / Goods / Re: Cigarettes for sale on: March 03, 2017, 07:50:24 PM
Smokeysmokey,

sure. Possible. Thanks for reply and please understand, that similar offers are and were made in past.

I am giving you benefit of doubt for sake of this actually being exception to the rule.

Have a nice weekend.
756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Nato "racist"? on: March 03, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
Xester,

of course you are completely right. People who attribute racialism to completely unrelated things (ie. fashion, or in this case power politics) are usually race obsessed themselves. Masha Sha seems to fall into that category.

Also, he has this weird idea that Americans somehow constitute racial category of their own. Which is false, biologically and perhaps even culturally.
757  Other / Politics & Society / Re: About politics on: March 03, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
OP,

your post is rather vague. Who do you consider to be VIP? Member of privileged elite obviously, but how do you define those? Is holding power enough? Good ancestry? Education? Like members before me said, in India, descebded member of caste XY has VIP status. In India. In USA same may apply to coked up pornstar or black rapper singing about rape. Because media gave them status.

But I do agree with you society needs elites to be properly lead and protected from disturbances. Yet, nobody seems to pay attention to composition of those elites. In the west anyway...
758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nazi New World Order on: March 02, 2017, 09:30:05 PM
OP,

just reminded me of old thread where his similarly insane predecessor claimed that Earth is flat, linking many "undeniable" proofs, that we could indeed fall from edge of our world if we tried hard enough. Every and all scientific knowledge, education and technology (including internet) was but a conspiracy to brainwash "sheeple" and hide the truth the Earth was indeed flat...

So in short no. Western power elites, affectionally called "Illuminati" are not nazis. Sure, those are often old white dudes, but guess what? Thats where the money is/was for the last couple of centuries. Even modern banking started in western Europe, among germanic and jewish families of the past. Its descendants are some of the richest people in the world.

If they are nazi, they it would make little sense, that they would flood western countries with millions of wage dumping, usually brown, slave labourers. It makes middle class disappear and increases tension in society as whole.

So the logical explanation is - like the Greek gods, they simply dont care. They dont care for you, a negro or your aryan neighbour. They care about themselves, their coke, their whores and their friends from golf course. Now, take a cold shower and stop taking drugs.
759  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The anti-Putin paranoia. on: March 02, 2017, 09:22:19 PM
Putin is not our friend, to say the least.

Perhaps that is true. But I don't think that he is the enemy as well. The real enemy for the European civilization is the hordes of immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa. Russia and Putin is not a threat to the European culture.



Russia is not a friend of the U.S., but neither is it an enemy, nor necessarily opposed
to peaceful coexistence and cooperation. Perhaps Russians saw hope with Trump's election,
but I dunno when the love affair will last. I think the main enemy globally here is, terrorism.
They can probably co-exist with equal terms with Russia to wage war on terror. Terrorism
should have been eradicated or, at least, contained in the Middle-East. in IHMO. Putin
and Trump should worked hand in hand to fight terrorism globally.





What is terorrism, anyway? Just another method of warf,are an assymetric one, sure, but warfare none the less. You cant fight a "method", you must fight its users. And to do that, you have to identify them first. Or should I say, stop arming them?

United States have been leader of most powerful block (that is the West) for generations, ascending Great Britain. You see, the conflict with Russia is not about ideology, as Britain waged similar "cold war" ever since Napoleonic Wars. It is about spheres of influence in a world of finite resources. While, I applaud your progressive viewpoint about partnership with people with common strance on life and death... I remain sceptical. In a globalized world lead by a superpower, any and I mean ANY sovereign nation with independent policy - be it Russia, China or heck, even small Hungary, can be labeled as potential enemy, "profit breaker" and general candidate for orchestrated coup or military engagement.

Terrorists financed by west allied theocracies of Persian Gulf are mere small puppets in such game.
760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2017, 09:14:35 PM
HI-TEC,

this is really useful info, thank you for sharing. It is logical, Chinese will implement similar measures that are already in place on majority of western exchanges. Ie formal disclosure of identity of its asset holders and users.

Personally, I believe this will be better for bitcoin price in the long term. Less room for shady business. Much better.
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