Social justice warriors just looking for another issue to bitch about and harass common folk with.

I agree, that ultimate sign of disrespect would be to erase any mention of Native influence for the sake of puritanical correctness. Whom would such malpractice serve exactly?

Not the sport, not the Natives and not the fans of the clubs.

You are not very literate, are you? Numbers say the exact opposite of your feelings. The west is in the process of desecularization and the rest of the world never abandoned moral compass provided by Faith.

It is completely logical aswell. As one thing agnostics fear is commitment. Commitment to family, to a nation, to a Faith.

Nature doesnt reward fear of commitment.



Keep in mind, that only about half of "unaffs" are non-religious. The rest are simply in transition period.

Yeah, there are alot of misinformed folk out there.

As if vast majority of violence in the previous one hundred years wasnt commited by secular communists and nazis, who in orwellian fashion deified state and nation in misguided belief, they can alter and bend natural order to their whims and wishes.

Then there are others, who call themselves "atheist", yet they do belive in God. And hate Him for some assumed injustice. Thats not atheism, thats cry of sheltered child, that just realized parents cannnot pander to it all the time. They refuse to understand, that they were gifted with free will precisely for the reason, that they themselves will be held accountable for the way they chose to lead their limited life.

If you had anything else besides "opinions" and drugs, then perhaps you wouldnt be so weak  faith and free will are two things that elevate us above animals. You chose not to.

Therefore your idea of God or of belivers is inconsequential. As the old ones used to say: Dogs keep barking, but caravan goes on.

According to Finabocci, next resistance line is likely around 2100 USD. It should be tested from both under and above several times (like the 1750 before). I agree we have entered bubble (and like many others I got punished for being sceptical for too long), but bubbles dont last two weeks. We are in for longer ride.

I am still sceptical that we will reach anywhere close to 10k this time around before reaching local top and substantial (months long) correction. 4-5k seems realistic in the medium term.

Thats how H.P.Lovecraft understood the concept of God also in his stories of cosmic terror. It cannot be flat out discounted.

I would like to point out the fact, that christians did antropomorphize God through his son, Jesus Christ. In Islam or Judaism, God doesnt have human like form or intentions. Only interest in Humanity as a whole.

Cant speak for United States, but in Europe overwhelming majority of fees and taxes are being redistributed to welfare and health care with only about 5% used on defense.

That doesnt mean "means justify the end" however. Vast governments (with as much as 10% of population directly employed by it) consume alot of tax revenue just to sustain itself, also the concept of "social justice" take precedence before both families and God in these secular countries. What does it mean in practice is complete disconnect between those who are net givers and those who are only takers. Basically, putting the former into the role of unwilling slaves.

This obssesion with equality of results and not opportunities took alot of vitality and life out of Europe.

If it keeps indeed creeping up, wouldnt it mean, that we have just entered wave 5? I admit, I am no expert on field of technical analysis, but that would propel us to around 2600 USD per Bitcoin under standart conditions, is that correct, Chessnut?

Also, thank you. Your thread is one of the handful on this board that are worth checking out on reguler occasion. Very insightful.

Afrikoin,

thanks, that is very helpful for reference. According to:

"Wave 5 usually ends inside the windows of 62% of 0-3 and equal to 0-3 added to wave 4."

That would give us about 2600 USD per bitcoin on Bitstamp, do I understand it correctly? And thank you again.

Because the richest countries (lets not count Saudi Arabia for the sake of discussion) were protestant christian, when they became the richest.   Sorry, you kind of gave that one away.

Max Weber provides very informative overview, how some values supported by calvinism formed early capitalist enterprise. Also, please, notice, that this development was unique to the western Europe with initially zero competition from rest of the world. Different belief systems elsewhere didnt see common ground between materialism/career and being good believer. Therefore, those societies had to adapt to new paradigma, sometimes through shock therapy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism

Weber traced the origins of the Protestant ethic to the Reformation, though he acknowledged some respect for secular everyday labor as early as the Middle Ages.[5]:28 The Roman Catholic Church assured salvation to individuals who accepted the church's sacraments and submitted to the clerical authority. However, the Reformation had effectively removed such assurances. From a psychological viewpoint, the average person had difficulty adjusting to this new worldview, and only the most devout believers or "religious geniuses" within Protestantism, such as Martin Luther, were able to make this adjustment, according to Weber.

In the absence of such assurances from religious authority, Weber argued that Protestants began to look for other "signs" that they were saved. Calvin and his followers taught a doctrine of double predestination, in which from the beginning God chose some people for salvation and others for damnation. The inability to influence one's own salvation presented a very difficult problem for Calvin's followers. It became an absolute duty to believe that one was chosen for salvation, and to dispel any doubt about that: lack of self-confidence was evidence of insufficient faith and a sign of damnation. So, self-confidence took the place of priestly assurance of God's grace.


Triggered are we? You can make smart kid ignorant, but not dumb, unless you cause him an actual brain damage. People like Charles Manson or Abraham Lincoln were extremely intelligent even though they effectively grew up on a street. Sure, they would certainly perform even better with proper environment, but the point is both were able to outperform their peers. Because genes. Likewise, even most disadvantaged minority these days thanks to welfare system has just as good opportunies as those two above ever got - but they dont perform well at all. So we can disregard, that it is only cultural thing. Genetics also plays a role. You wouldnt be next Albert Einstein even with the best schools (he was mediocre student by the way) and neither would I.

And before you lay some stupid claims about white supremacy, notice, that its East Asians, ashkenazi Jews and Indian brahmin caste, who are on top of the pyramid. Not your imagined nazis. How would you explain the fact, that Brahmins outperformed British even during colonial era?

https://pumpkinperson.com/2014/09/29/caste-iq-in-india/

To be perfectly frank, the more and more we learn about this "migrant crisis", the more it seems like modern slave trade. With both migrants and tax payers being its unwilling and perhaps naive sponsors. Corporate aligned NGOs promise these third world dwellers life of aristocracy and warm welcome (thats not real even for middle class Europeans) and when they sell all their belongings to smugglers, those same NGOs take money from tax payers to "take care of" the problem theyve created in the first place.

I was horrified the moment Ive learned, that these "activists" are sometimes directly financed by George Soros and even willing to clash with border guards. One recent incident involving these human rights people involved battling Lybians (!) patrol over custody of migrants.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/12/pro-migrant-ngo-clashes-libyan-coast-guard-migrants/

The more times change, the more they stay the same.

You might be mistaking religion with cults (including secular ones like feminism or communism).

Religion is first and foremost a belief system, that instills values in people, therefore shaping their culture.

The guy above you got it right. He is making his own decision, yet unlike you has advantage of falling back on moral compass that can guide him whenever he feels lost. And everybody was at one time or another lost.

Your brain is slave to your body, it doesnt tell to leave married woman alone or not to steal. Values that you promised to protect do.

Bible is specific in this case as it sees life of every individual as long struggle with temptation, promising rewards to those, who are strong enough to rise above mere animals with enlarged brain case.


- Then why dont you understand life? Did you fail your science exam? Good, that old scholars of Greece and Rome werent dependant on public education system then.

"Darwin is the daddy"

Mr. Charles Darwin was anglican christian while he developed his theory. Get that through that thick skull of yours.

You only say that out of ignorance (funny, given nickname youve chosen) you consider civil war worse, because it is something you are familiar with through the media.

Nuclear bomb doesnt rape women and children, sure. It "only" evaporates them, the very air surrounding them, infects the very earth and every tree left standing with lasting radioactive izotopes that will act as time bombs against anybody, who will come closer. Nuclear bomb doesnt only kill people in the area, it effectively makes the area unhabitable for many generations. People and animals, who survive the initial blast will die either of poisoning or if they are especially lucky - will be turned sick and infertile.

I find nothing as terrifying as nukes, since they actually end life. All life. They are closest thing we are ever going to get to Grim Reaper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout

"Late or delayed effects of radiation occur following a wide range of doses and dose rates. Delayed effects may appear months to years after irradiation and include a wide variety of effects involving almost all tissues or organs. Some of the possible delayed consequences of radiation injury are life shortening, carcinogenesis, cataract formation, chronic radiodermatitis, decreased fertility, and genetic mutations."


Japanese didnt know long term effects of nuclear warheads... and neither did the Americans. In 1945, the nature of fallout poisoning was still very poorly understood.

If we are talking only about survival, the area of blast will stop being extremely lethal in about two months. However since radiation effectively bonds itself with solid matter (houses, trees, earth) it will stay extremely poisoning unless those objects are removed. We are talking about organ failure, infertility still births and malformities among children. Not to mention cancer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose

In the west, sure, man. Sure.

But nobody here mentioned sea steading next to New York or Copenhagen  southern Asia is still quite exciting place.

How many armed and motivated Indonesians would I need to take over this sea steading utopia and turn it into large prison for everybody? Ten? Twenty?



Or lets say, you like Metal Gear Solid and find Zanzibar to be good starting place. Somalians cant read but they sure know how to operate a rpg.



And then what? Call a mama (aka bad ol´ government)? You cant run on a sea and you sure as hell wont outswim speedboats of these guys.

First let me say - thank you. I was getting sceptical that this thread will turn into another shouting match, you proved me wrong.

To elaborate. you mentioned  thousand years of adaptation (perhaps accelerated through bottleneck aka founder effect), however this all still needs atleast one thing for it to work - isolation of selected population. If both adapting groups stay in contact, they will either develop together or stagnate.

This is something we can actually observe in human population. Ie. blond hair and light eyes being recessive trait, so they would only get widespread through founder effect. But this is where this shit gets confusing - you can still take Scandinavian interbreed him with an African and thus the offspring will lose recessive traits of his ancestor. Thus this still only side effect of adaptation, both are still members of single species.

If evolution is true, at what point would both groups separate into different species? Youve got all the ingredients, enviromental pressure, founder effect and thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of years of separate development. But all we got is still merely adaptation with interbreeding fully viable, not an actual evolution resulting in new species.

If you look at it critically and see say chimps as our distant cousins, who have developed IN THE SAME AREA as we did, it simply stops working.

Therefore, I cannot discount possiblity of convergent theory (aka genetics boosted by intelligent design). There is a) Zero reason why would nature alone select brain enlargement in human beings (in nature, larger brain mass is actually not an advantage given how energy demanding brain tissue is) b) Very few arguments, while we and other great apes would completely disengage from each other. Remember, there was contact all the time in eastern Africa (unless, you are partial to regional theory of development) stumping mutations, that would significantly differentiate the two.

Do we have a timeline for resuming of full bitcoin withdrawal from chinese exchanges? Firm date or just vague "maybe in june"?

I couldnt care less about these trolls saying China doesnt matter. It does, it already did two years ago, when the bear market ended. Bitcoin is retesting ATH right now. Chinese getting onboard would send it straight to stratosphere. And dont mind the fact, that they have been lagging behind by around 15% in USD value. That difference would vanish overnight, making those who timed their longs well, rich overnight.

I actually agree with Joe Brook here. And listen why.

When criminal gets out of prison you have absolutely no idea, if he is reformed or not. On the same note, when your country is being flooded by immigrants from war torn place, you might just have a terrorist in your neighbourhood.

Yes, protecting you family and estate is your God given right. As is checking on people, who had bad track record on using them. Criminal record, immigrant status and past of drug abuse should put an individual on black list for atleast a couple of years before he can prove him/herself to society as trustworthy.

These "newcomers" coming from repressive environment should put a little work for the freedom too, dont you think so?

I provided data and numbers for you, both collected by secularists - something you should be able to understand. I can source far more. You in return gave me your subjective beliefs and feelings. Oh, and wished me bon voyage to Islamic State, least I forget.

The fact is, that atheists are dying out. Even in premodern times, you wouldnt be able to find a single culture that thrived and survived on basis of rationalism alone.

Indeed, it is time to stop. Now, I will pray, that you will find a way for yourself. Way, that doesnt lead to extinction, death and more hatred. Atheism is always only hair away from individual nihilism.

Good luck.

P.S.: Professor of University of London, self-ascribed agnostic, Eric Kaufmann wrote a thesis on subject of long term perspective of atheism and ongoing desecularization of the World. Before you make any further remarks. Educate yourself, please.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/shall-the-religious-inherit-the-earth-by-eric-kaufmann-1939316.html

Your post just gave me a cancer.

Companies are selling factory made guns to kids on meds? Or do gun permit owning citizens? No? Then fuck off.

In one sentence you try to justify breach of human rights by picking a strawman already addressed by law. It is not legal to shoot your co-students or is it? Then why the hell would you care, if the gun is legal as a would be killer?

None of the guns used in Paris terror attacks were legal and France is a country with extremely tough gun control. The only thing said gun control ensured was that out of hundred plus victims - none was armed.

I thought we were talking about societal benefits? Are you now interested in the text of scripture all of sudden or did your education fail to provide you with more arguments?



The bible represents, in quite mundane, easy to understand way a natural order and couple of rules, that individual mindful of balance in nature ought to respect for common good. Even atheist like yourself greatly benefits from its presence, as it provides stability, moral compass for both elites and masses. Preventing Orwellian animal farm or Mad Max conditions from coming true.

You know so much about numbers, but so little about human condition.