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1281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: August 06, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
I don't think, a second round of registration makes sence at all.
There are limited users on bitcointalk and most of them sockpuppets. So if we have already nearly 1k that should be much already.
And its again a lot of work for you guys. You should spend that time on development.
Noone can say, ORAs distribution was not fair. The people had a lot of time to register.

Current stakeholders were interested in new things, because they were looking in the Announcements to see this coin.
IMHO the people who are not finding it for that long time, are not deserving anything now any more.
But if they want in, they can still for about 1k nxt per stake on AE, what is really not much...

And we have to look for a possibility to raise the price steady. More stakeholders means only more dumpers, what creates more pressure at the price.

My suggestion would be:
- top only current holding stakers as a reward for holding (because they probably are not dumping)
- on release maybe sell a few stakes (but then for a higher price as they are now)
1282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 04, 2014, 02:39:41 PM
is it still being distributed?


Yes, the distribution is ongoing.

since days already? even if someone is sending the coins manually it is a long time ;-)
1283  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: i want to give 100 BTC to one user on bitcointalk. tell me why it is U. on: August 04, 2014, 02:26:40 PM
You were already laughing about my future visions, but 100 BTC is to less for them anyway.
But I think that would be the perfect amount to finish and implement my already started concept of anonymous IDs.
1284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: August 04, 2014, 01:04:37 PM
sold all my orra stakes on nxt ae. congratz to the buyerz Cheesy

~CfA~

Grats for 50 bucks.
1285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 04, 2014, 10:50:25 AM
Stellar is pretty junky... and lame, but why not grab some.

yesterday the price on the exchange was up to 0.0004 BTC.
The 6k free stellar could have been sold for 2.4BTC!!!

Yeah... what is it today?

Where's exchange?

that was on bx.in.th
it fell down to 0.000004 like it was before. but thats still nearly 0.03 BTC for the stack. For a freebie kind of ok
1286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 04, 2014, 10:47:57 AM
Is there anyway to download wallet and mine this stuff or is it totally centralised?

it will be mineable in a later step as far as I know.
1287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 04, 2014, 09:39:08 AM
Stellar is pretty junky... and lame, but why not grab some.

yesterday the price on the exchange was up to 0.0004 BTC.
The 6k free stellar could have been sold for 2.4BTC!!!
1288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 03, 2014, 04:52:32 PM
Hello,
Is there someone who can help me with this.. I cannot find stellar official threat , not sure if this is the official threat here..Is there any exchange for stellar and how much 1000 stellar cost right now?
Thanks!
BR
Gondel

a price doesn't make sence at the moment. its still at the beginning of the distribution.
Just keep it and forget it. like you should have done with the ripple freebies...
1289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 02, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
So, another entity requiring a Facebook login to get the free Stellers?

Very unhappy with this. I would not, under any circumstances, open a 'Facebook" account. I signed up on the Stellar website but, there doesn't seem to be any way to get the free stellers without the FB account.

Seems quite unfair....

sorry for this, but they want to eliminate sockpuppets, what is quite understandable...

Just sent 1000 coins.

Sent all 500 Stacks of coins until now back.
1290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 02, 2014, 07:59:43 PM
Why would people do this? Find a partner and send 1000 to each other to keep the full amount plus bonus.

Because they wouldn't even know, without the post. That is called gratitude.
Rare in this forum, I know...
1291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in on: August 01, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
There's already one topic. No need for another.

oh, didn't see

edit:
seems like a scam entry for me... there is no ipo

                        Stellar gateway project IPO

Hello everyone,we are chinese dev team,who wanna found a gateway of Stellar payment network,but we need surport.We have 6 members in Germany&Shanghai&Fuzhou,all of them are excellent in Virtual Currency .Now here we launch an IPO which is necessary to run the project. All of the funds will be used to open the market.

Send your Stellar balance to the IPO Stellar address:
xxx

IPO ended in September 1, 2014 at 8:00 AM (EST),


1292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN][STELLAR] new coin/exchange System like Ripple - get in free!!! on: August 01, 2014, 10:49:18 AM
I want to present you a new coin today: Stellar
Coin supply 100 Billion.

You remember Ripple? There were also free coins. Everyone participating was laughing at the not participating ones later.
Its free. Get in now!

Here complete information from the website (https://www.stellar.org/)

Quote
Stellar is a decentralized protocol for sending and receiving money in any pair of currencies. This means users can, for example, send a transaction from their Yen balance and have it arrive in Euros, Yen, or even bitcoin. We’re expecting to support the usual categories of transactions: payments to a merchant, remittances back home, or rent splits with a roommate.

You can hold a balance with a gateway, which is any network participant you trust to accept a deposit in exchange for credit on the network. Stellar also comes with a built-in digital currency, referred to as the stellar, which we’re giving away for free. The currency will have value (as determined by the market); however, its primary function is providing a conversion path between other currencies.

We hope that people will build applications on top of Stellar to help bridge the gap between digital and traditional currencies.

Development
We’re developing Stellar as part of a nonprofit organization, the Stellar Development Foundation. The code is open-source, and anyone is welcome to join the project. If you’re interested in following Stellar development or helping us build the network, just jump into our IRC room (#stellar-dev on Freenode), or browse our forum. You can start building applications on top of Stellar now; see Stellar Client (the code behind our hosted web client) or Stellar Viewer (the code behind the account viewer) for some working examples.

The following are some of the people involved (see our about page for a complete list):

Stellar Development is led by Jed McCaleb (resuming development of the open-source technology he created at Ripple) and Professor David Mazičres (head of Stanford’s Secure Computer Systems group, creator of SFS and bcrypt).
The Foundation is led by Joyce Kim as Executive Director (former attorney and VC with public interest experience).
The Foundation’s board is Keith Rabois (early Paypal, former COO at Square), Patrick Collison (CEO of Stripe), and Jed McCaleb.
The Foundation is advised by Dan Kaminsky, Joi Ito, Ronaldo Lemos, Linda Stone, Sam Altman, Naval Ravikant, Jackson Palmer, Greg Stein, and Matt Mullenweg.
Stripe has provided initial funding to help get the network off the ground.
The currency
We provide an open-source hosted web client, where the keys are encrypted client-side to your password so we don’t have access to your funds. The supply of stellar will increase at 1% per year.

The network has been initialized with a supply of 100 billion stellars. 5% will be used to fund operations of the nonprofit (its spending, including employee compensation, will be public), and the remaining 95% of the stellars will be distributed for free as quickly as we can manage. We want anyone to be able to get onto the network, and we’re correspondingly going to apportion the giveaway as follows (see our mandate for more details):

50% of the total will be distributed to people who sign up for an account.
25% will be distributed by other nonprofits focused on financial inclusion.
20% will be given to current Bitcoin and Ripple holders—two systems that Stellar owes a lot to.
We’re starting the main giveaway now. Note that we’re still ensuring the stability of our own systems, so we may have to limit the rate of stellar distribution at first.

How it works
Gateways
Stellar is built on the concept of gateways—entities that let people get into and out of the network. (For some related background, it may be worth reading Stripe’s recent cryptocurrency blog post.)

You need to trust the gateways you use, but you don’t need to trust the other participants in the network. This is similar to trusting your local bank to hold a deposit on your behalf. In Stellar, you explicitly decide how much you’d like to trust a gateway by setting policies such as “I trust this gateway to hold a deposit of up to 100 CAD on my behalf”.

Currency balances are represented as credits from the gateway. For example, a user could deposit 100 USD into an appropriate gateway via ACH, and the gateway would issue a “(100, USD, <gateway>)” credit to the user’s Stellar account. The credit issuance will only succeed if the user has already marked themselves as trusting the gateway for at least 100 USD.

gateway_diagram

Credits can be traded between users without involving the gateway.

gateway_diagram_2

Cashing out of the network requires invoking the promise represented by a gateway’s credits. You return those credits to the issuing gateway, and the gateway sends you the corresponding currency. Because the currency return is external to the network, you need to trust the gateway to follow through on their commitment (just as you trust your bank to return your deposit upon request).

Since it’s a distributed and open network, anyone is able to start their own gateway, and to take their pick of gateways to trust.

Distributed exchange
Stellar bakes a distributed exchange into the protocol. You can think of the exchange as a single large pool of offers of the form “I’ll trade (100, EUR, <gateway>) for (79, GBP, <othergateway>)”. Anyone on the network can issue a new offer, accept an outstanding one, or cancel an offer they created.



Anyone can submit orders to the exchange.
Outstanding orders to convert between a gateway’s local currency and stellar let anyone on the network send local currency credits to that gateway’s users. Behind the scenes, there might be a series of conversions along the way. For example, a user might submit a transaction which converts EUR credits to stellar and then converts those stellar to AUD credits. Ultimately, the user will have sent EUR, the recipient will have received AUD, and two exchange orders will have been fulfilled.

Consensus
Under the hood, Stellar uses its own distributed ledger, which is maintained by a consensus algorithm rather than mining. Each node in the network communicates with a set of other nodes that it believes will not collude (such as nodes run by universities, governments, and companies). Importantly, it doesn’t need to trust the nodes themselves — it just needs to believe the nodes won’t work together to produce the same malicious result. Consensus is then reached by an iterative process, which results in each new ledger being decided upon every few seconds. Correspondingly, transactions confirm nearly instantly, and no mining is needed.

We’ll be releasing a paper soon documenting and exploring a provably-correct version of this algorithm.

Today
The Stellar network is just getting started. Today, you can test it out by sending and receiving stellar (or you can use the API to play with running your own small-scale gateway, such as by issuing credits for minutes of your debugging help). We’re working with a few currency exchanges to help them become the first Stellar gateways; once they’re done, you’ll be able to transact in the currencies they provide. In the long term, there will be gateways to cover every payment method that people choose to support.

In the meanwhile, we’ll keep building, and we hope you’ll join us.
1293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: July 31, 2014, 05:20:56 PM
Rule number 1:
Don't ignore your community! Why do we have to pay your lacking marketing skills?

seems like we also have to pay your lacking programming skills?
1294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: July 31, 2014, 08:12:44 AM

You can do two other things instead:

-Top up (as you call it) all original stakeholders who keep at least 166,666 Oras.

-Give the free shares to all current holders of Ora. I do not think those who did not own originally, but paid for their shares are less valuable, then the original owners. You can make additional modification to this to better serve your needs. (1.5 new stakes for original accounts with more than 166,666 coins and 1 new stake for new accounts with same amount or more)


The interesting here is, that people will give the dumpers now already more money, if the additional coins later depend only on the coins.
But if only holding stakeholders get additional coins current dumpers get less money for it ;-)
And mostly people who have already coins are buying in this state anyway... they should get it cheaper, if someone wants to dump...
I would top up only keeping stakeholders as KTK did that quite successfully.
1295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: July 31, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
Actually $60 is a lot for what it is.  It's not NEM, where you get 1 million of NEM for $1000 (0.00025% of total supply)

This coin is $60 for 166,666 out of 10 billion supply, (0.0000166666% of total supply).    To get 0.000255% of Ora you'ld have to spend like around $950.  It's almost as expensive as NEM.

This is a market capitalization of $3.6 million if ORA were launched.

Sure people - keep claiming that Ora is worthless..  it's already worth more than Qora!


I guess you lost a few zeros. There are no 10 billion any more... are there?
1296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORA::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair distribution|issued NXT AE ASAP on: July 31, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
best would be maybe to keep the coins and give them later to the stakeholders.
Currently they are holding it, because they maybe get more.
I think if you give now all coins to the stakeholders, there would be probably more dumping and you end up on 100 or less stakeholders on release.
So from economical perspective best would be.

- wait
- Release
- wait
- give additional coins
1297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ASSET][MtGoxResc] Asset to rescue Mt.Gox and pay out users! on: July 25, 2014, 08:59:17 AM
Hehehe, if people just give 650k to an stranger, twice.

ok, I have enough. I removed the assets from sale.
I wanted to do something good! Nothing for me, but for bitcoin in common.
But this kind of comments only destroy my motivation.
I have better things to do, if you don't want.
1298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ASSET][MtGoxResc] Asset to rescue Mt.Gox and pay out users! on: July 25, 2014, 06:50:29 AM
You should make some step.

It it too expensive.

You just want to do as mt.gox

This it the first step. But it seems like, noone is interested.
Feel free to take over. this was just an idea, that anyone can go on.
1299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 25, 2014, 06:43:58 AM
Thanks for the link, that is some bat $#!+ crazy amount of Bitcoin for an unknown investment in an unknown quantity of fresh ether. Investors sure have some lessons to learn.

This cycle is part of the bubble to come it reminds me of 2012 when people got board with there Bitcoin and started investing in anything that used the acronym IPO.

Woot, CCMF within the next 6 months.

true (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649739.0)
1300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: July 25, 2014, 06:05:22 AM
...These guys are about building the next big thing, not ROI for anonymous small time BTT investors. ... We are at peak hype for Ethereum, so sit back and enjoy the show.

LOL, oxymoron detected, this is all about ROI for the funding founders those shrewd x-Goldman Sachs investors, they just found same naive tech guys to front great innovation. I'll speculate much of that initial investment in the "IPO" is fueling the sell off of Bitcoin today. I bet they making a killing on Bitfinex today.

Shocked go Ethereum, way to milk bitcoin

ridiculous. the amounts are still there (https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2)
IF it affected, bitcoin would raise, because people have to buy it in order to buy ether.
But it won't effect much. We had yesterday over 50k volume on the big exchanges. what should 6 or 7 k change there?
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