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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform.
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on: March 26, 2016, 05:28:08 PM
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How much BTC do you guys think Waves will raise?
I think 3000 BTC are perfectly possible. 2016 is going to be the year of ico
Lisk gained 10k+ I don't see why Waves can't reach that either. thats the big problem. people will always compare everything with everything. Lisk compared with ethereum and waves want to be compared with lisk. But they are completely different products. Only time can tell how much they can reach and how justified the money is. We probably will see a few successful fundings until everyone thinks he has to invest in everything, because it will gain anyway. And then we are coming to the .com bubble similar szenario, where everything drops like crazy. Hopefully we are far away from it yet ;-) |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs
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on: March 25, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
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It is not allowed and welcomed to post addresses for beggings in the forum. There is a faucet to get a first bunch of XEM. If it is dry then please post it here, so the devs could fill it up again. Please i want some XEM toooooo   NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D If you mean http://faucet.nem.io, I'm afraid that this site is still down (for several months now). It's a shame, as we'd like to attract more new users in these moments... I am afraid, that faucets attract a shit. People who run for those pennies will not be able to buy xem but dump even the small amount they get... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
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on: March 23, 2016, 09:45:19 AM
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@ 1: We are in a decentralized environment. Any kind of censoring by the devs will hurt lisk. The only way is a reputational... removing malicious code will probably not be possible. But who knows, maybe the reputation system can offer that.
Ok, I agree but this doesn't mean system should be infected with all malicious dapps. Reputation wise its not good. Still the dapp has to communicate with mainnet to keep consistency. I think Lisk mainnet holds meta information about each dapp. This should be enough to record info about dapp. Now the question is how to warn the user about that particular malicious dapp .
I'm thinking few alternatives, will present them in coming posts.
@ 2+3: you don't need to send your password to the server hopefully. You also don't have to do that in NXT. Just the Frontend needs it.
I think Dapp UI asks for pass phrase, and pass same to server through api call or http post. its enough to capture pass phrase. Its not like Dapp UI (client face) directly talking to mainnet. it doesn't matter, Whether its UI or api all should go through http endpoints on the server.
As I said, decentralized means, that devs have not more power on production than anybody else. The system should just work for itself. If you move away from that just a little you can throw away all decentralization... the reputation system can work with mods as well... I didn't look into implementations, but I hope, there is no post with your passphrase. You can sign everything in the frontend... its simply not needed. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
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on: March 23, 2016, 06:31:39 AM
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I'm a full stack developer and a early investor (2nd week). I like Lisk because of JavaScript as main language. I have just started looking at the dapp development, noticed some serious security concerns with dapp development.
My understanding with dapps is (correct me if I'm wrong), a dapp is hostable component that exposes an http external api and is capable of doing some transactions (withdrawals and deposits). Every dapp can be hosted within in some sidechain. Users can access dapp functionality with the help of exposed api by passing secret and transaction info. It means you have to pass your pass phrase to every dapp you want to do a transaction lets say a withdrawal (paying to dapp owners).
Apple, Microsoft, and google stores are centralized. Every app has to go rigorous review process before getting published in stores ( I published few apps in google and windows stores). The review process mainly includes scanning for malicious code that exposes user phone to external attackers.
Situation 1:
Lisk has no such review process but the code can be viewed by others. Lets say if dapp included with some malicious code that records pass phrases somewhere (not in the dapp), lisk-cli just creates a foundation base for dapp development and users extends it with their own api. How lisk prevents user from accessing dapp and removes from store if malicious code found.
Situation 2:
Lisk dapps and their sidechains can be hosted by third party entities. Lets say owner setup two VMS. One with actual sidechain with clean dapp code internally and installed a reverse proxy on another VM(that sits on external point and forwards request to internal VM that hosted dapp). The reverse proxy receives the request from user first and records pass phrase and then forwards same request to internal VM without modifying request headers.
Situation 3:
Man in the middle attacks.
If the dapp owner not hosting sidechain with SSL, How Lisk ensures user data not compromised.
Just wondering how lisk handles these situations and prevents owner from misusing pass phrases. Last year, I encountered similar issue with NXT and lost around 10K coins. I used a remote nxt web node to check my transactions frequently. I suspect they recorded my pass phrase and transferred my 10k to theirs account.
I think users shouldn't be forced to send pass phrases to dapp owners, its like sending your BTC private keys to others.
@ 1: We are in a decentralized environment. Any kind of censoring by the devs will hurt lisk. The only way is a reputational... removing malicious code will probably not be possible. But who knows, maybe the reputation system can offer that. @ 2+3: you don't need to send your password to the server hopefully. You also don't have to do that in NXT. Just the Frontend needs it. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation
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on: March 23, 2016, 12:22:04 AM
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How much BTC have you guys spent on this? I did 1 BTC. But if there were 14k BTC raised by only 3900 backers/"investors", there must have been guys spending much more..
There was one transaction with 1000 and one with 300 as far as I know. But some will have even less then you I guess... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation
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on: March 23, 2016, 12:14:52 AM
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Will make a 6 BTC bet (w/ escrow) that we don't hit 100 million dollar market cap for more than 24 hrs (in case of coinmarketcap bug) inside of 2016. Paid out day we hit 100 million inside 2016 or Jan 1 2017. Any takers? *had seen some guys talk about 500 million and 1 billion market cap. Thus my bet. Senseless bet for anyone but you. If someone wanted to bet on this he would have invested that money already in the ICO and had way more ROI... 100 million means a raise of more than 10x. That means you would have to bet 10:1 to make it reasonable... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
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on: March 22, 2016, 11:54:21 PM
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funny reason. sorry to say that this site is not really relevant here. of course websites use nearly only javascript. They even can't use C++ normally. Browser don't support it ;-) But of course its cool, that lisk uses javascript. I also say that... See it like that. You have Backend and Frontend code. One runs on the operating system and one in the browser or any gui. Both is needed for a DAPP. Backend can be written in nearly any language you can just compile it and it runs. But you can also run javascript there. Frontend can be written only "theoretically" in any language. Browsers can only run javascript. So anything else has to be somehow ran through a extra parser. It's getting too slow. So you normally "can" only use javascript itself. Of course you can use the other languages for local applications without the browser. But that's extra work for different operating systems. Thats why javascript gets much attention lately, because you can write the same language in the frontend and the backend and you can "share" some code as well... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to identify promising new altcoins!
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on: March 22, 2016, 11:15:18 PM
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I often look into the announcement forum and I already see it on the headlines. I can really just fly over them:
Words like:
- Scrypt
- Whatever ALGO
- POS
- PoW
- CPU/GPU
- Mining
- ... Premine
- community takeover
- v2
- ...
If people have to use this kind of words in headlines, there is no invention.
And if there is nothing new -> no chance
I mean, there are so many inventions going on at the moment. You don't waste time for those cloning shit any more, as you did 2 years ago ;-)
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
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on: March 22, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
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Now that the ICO is over, can we focus on making Lisk a success? Clearly the success of Lisk depends on the success of Lisk DAPP store. Currently Ethereum dapp directory ( http://dapps.ethercasts.com) has ONLY 34 LIVE Ethereum Dapps, so Lisk can certainly surpass that number of dapps within this summer, if we promote Lisk heavily to Javascript developers outside crypto world, through contests with serious monetary prizes. I found most Ethereum dapps too specicific to crypto world so I prepared a list of sites using Javascript in real world applications, all for your inspiration: I have been inspired by your post. Some Googling has led me to a list of 10,000 (OK, really only 9,772) self described JavaScript geek programmers. With their Twitter addresses. Stand by for the spreadsheet, which may take a while. It takes some time to organize a name list of 10,000 people. Then stand by for a twitter blast in the days / weeks to come. https://geekli.st/home Funny, I couldn't find a similar list of 10,000 Etherium Solidity programmers. I swear to God, I am going to have such fun when I start posting over on the Ethereum forums in April when I get back from my vacation next week.  With almost $6 Million in Total Development Cash-On-Hand, Lisk devs should spend at least $1 Million this summer on Dapp contests to attract those Javascript developers & become the #1 most popular Dapp Store. Omg didn't think about that, but true! Contests could really boost Lisk! |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
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on: March 21, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
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Javascript has weak dynamic typing, so it'ing a number, and you haven't written explicit code to convert it to a number, then you can end up with the wrong answer. ("1" + 2) / 3 = 4 in Javascript. (Try it yourself online).
If you want to discuss about javascript, you are right here :-) But be sure, you read more about it... The typing sense is a widely discussed thing and everything has its pros and cons. Javascript has other advantages against java. It is not overloaded, you can write your code faster, test it faster and you have callbacks. To explain that all you have to go very deep into programming. Its not done with a simple testing like that. And if you know, how to program, you can fix this by making sure your variable is, what it is supposed to be. "1" + 2 is a string concatenation, so you have to make sure, that it is no string... and you can do that also in javascript. The only difference is, that java is yelling at you already before. Thats useful for noobs. And if you want to make it sure, you can use Typescript for programming as well, wich can be transpiled easily to javascript. If you're the one that likes to be yelled at  Many bigger projects do this already to have the best out of both worlds... |
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