Look at the Ethereum fork. Perfect. Two sides have a difference of opinion. Neither will budge. It is a full impasse.
Fork.
Everyone says the world is over. Chaos everywhere.
Time passes.
More time passes.
One side wins and the chain is fine and perfect and strong again. The other side proved it was the side destine to die. That idea is gone forever. Everyone wins. The network is improved and the impasse is settled.
Forks are the way to settle a difference of opinion. Avoiding forks guarantees infinite and endless fighting.
In Bitcoin where everyone is crying about a hard fork - they question never gets settled. More than two years now, no settlement.
It is just like the Shia and Sunni. Fighting forever, no settlement. One side needs to die.
It is like the Jews and Palestinians. Fighting forever. day, after day, after day. killing with no solution. The impasse assures more killing in the future.
Ethereum settled the fight with a fork where one side dies off. This is the way to make the network strong.
We need a bitcoin hard fork. Bitcoin BU and Bitcoin SegWit. after some time, one side will be better than the other. The network will be stronger and the impasse and killing will be gone.
what you said would be true if etheruem classic is dead, but this isn't true, ethereum classic is there running, they effectively created two coins now each one with its marketcap, and ETC is stealing an amount of money from the marketcap of eth, this might happen to bitcoin, although it would be more devastating, i don't like it Yeah, but the real Ethereum is over $2.5 Billion. Before the fork - it was only $1 Billion. So, a very short time after a contentious fork - BIG VALUE!!! |
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BU has gone about in an incredibly stupid way that shows how goddamn brainless they are.
all they had to do was take the core code, tweak one line of block limit and run with that.
they would prove that larger blocks weren't the end of the world. maybe everyone would agree and then we'd finally progress.
instead they've introduced a bunch of untested messy shit that most people hate. people who previously might have approved of a clean increase won't get behind this.
they're throwing away an opportunity that might have drained this swamp once and for all. instead they're gonna make it all way worse.
What messy sh*t did they introduce that people hate? He is confused. He is talking about SegWit. |
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I wonder how much more does it take before you are banned because of constant trolling and continuous creation of bullshit topics in this forum!
so far forum admins/mods have been so generous to you!!!
All you SegWit guys think the impending fork is a bullshit topic. You guys understand you are going to lose this fight. Censorship hasn't really worked so well in this forum. It actually pisses people off when you try to stuff rags down their throat. |
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Look at the Ethereum fork. Perfect. Two sides have a difference of opinion. Neither will budge. It is a full impasse.
Fork.
Everyone says the world is over. Chaos everywhere.
Time passes.
More time passes.
One side wins and the chain is fine and perfect and strong again. The other side proved it was the side destine to die. That idea is gone forever. Everyone wins. The network is improved and the impasse is settled.
Forks are the way to settle a difference of opinion. Avoiding forks guarantees infinite and endless fighting.
In Bitcoin where everyone is crying about a hard fork - they question never gets settled. More than two years now, no settlement.
It is just like the Shia and Sunni. Fighting forever, no settlement. One side needs to die.
It is like the Jews and Palestinians. Fighting forever. day, after day, after day. killing with no solution. The impasse assures more killing in the future.
Ethereum settled the fight with a fork where one side dies off. This is the way to make the network strong.
We need a bitcoin hard fork. Bitcoin BU and Bitcoin SegWit. after some time, one side will be better than the other. The network will be stronger and the impasse and killing will be gone.
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These are horrible ideas. Obviously none of you have children.
Tell them Bitcoin is like sex. It is very dirty and should be avoided at all cost.
That will get them very interested and they will figure everything out by themselves. No need to explain anything.
In other words, supposed that your kid came home with a 0/100 score in a Math exam. You'd manipulate your kids into studying saying that "Math is like sex. It's very dirty and should be avoided at all cost."? Next day, your kid goes home with a failing grade at Science, you simply do the same procedure. I don't think it would work at all. If you think of it, it's pretty absurd since not all kids do the opposite of that they told. There are also kids that just follow what you told them. So when you say that bitcoin should be avoided at all cost, they will actually avoid it. Clearly you are a dumb kid who tries very hard but failing to please your unworthy parents by doing all the things you are told. |
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How can a privately funded entity organize themselves by hiring Core devs with the intention of driving the future rules of the network? Doesn't this bother most of you free loving bitcoiners?
Time to organize a new group of honest core devs having no paycheck affiliation with anyone.
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These are horrible ideas. Obviously none of you have children.
Tell them Bitcoin is like sex. It is very dirty and should be avoided at all cost.
That will get them very interested and they will figure everything out by themselves. No need to explain anything.
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What about this?
I was thinking that could help reduce spam (by making it more expensive) why simultaneously relieving current network congestion.
Dude, you are a genius. I don't know why the others haven't thought about this yet. Maybe you should call the team and let them know about it. |
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The experiment taught us many valuable things. Now it is time to back the fuck up and start over with some more workable parameters.
Let's start with a new genesis block. A more sane approach to mining. Much faster block time. Much higher capacity blcoks. And no god-damned Blockstream dickheads trying to take-over and own the whole thing. We need some real organization at the top. Otherwise, Trump is going to create the Department of Homeland Cryptocurrency and electronic money will be forever controlled by the same politicians just like the last currency.
No more fucking around with theory, it is time to put this thing right.
Get rid of that poison team Adam Back and 1 Meg Greg. Team Core is Team Bullshit.
I guess you're just here to badmouth Bitcoin but I have an advice, you can just start your own Altcoin which would address all these problems you think Bitcoin is having. I'd prefer to shine rather than curse darkness! Obviously, while you are busy 'shining' you are not reading. Dumbfuck. Check the part where he said starting an alt on top of the established chain is different than starting an alt fresh. |
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Enough is enough already! Let's get Roger Ver and GMaxwell into the octagon and just punch it out. Ver wins, it's 8MB; Max wins, it's SegWit. Winner take all. I say that fat fuck goes down in the first round.
The ability to fight is not a great metric for measuring decision making in a technological environment. Dog, you should know this as you said in 2011 that bitcoin would die....oh how you were so wrong. Bitcoin is dead you moron. Just because crazy Chinamen like paying insane amounts for it, doesn't mean it is alive. The network is fully fucking broken and a backlog and high fees is making loads of application builders to abandon their efforts to make blockchain based things. Core Blockstream only see two things: settlement network and lightning. Unfortunately there are a huge bunch of transactions that don't fit into those classes. Bitcoin isn't dead, it is fucking dead. Blockstream killed it. |
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2) BTC to high volume alt (ETH?)
This ^^^ And you could do it via Coinbase pretty easily, although I'm not sure what time restrictions they have. But ETH has been so stable it would serve as a decent control, a safe place to be while you're waiting out your next opportunity with BTC.\ Where can I find more information on USDT? USDT is the only way to go. About $5Million a day in volume recently. https://tether.to/ http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/tether/If you get an account at Poloniex, you can trade in and out of $$$ all day long very fast and easy. Sit on USDT during the crashes, and rebuy after the trough. Works like a charm. In Tether, $1 is always $1. No exchange rate risk. With high vol alt on ETH, you expose yourself to some goofy coin having a big crash. Tether doesn't crash. $1 is always $1. |
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Enough is enough already! Let's get Roger Ver and GMaxwell into the octagon and just punch it out. Ver wins, it's 8MB; Max wins, it's SegWit. Winner take all. I say that fat fuck goes down in the first round.
GMaxwell will be no match for Roger Dodger, because he is full of Karate with all his black belts... GMaxwell might win, if he spits on Roger.. like the confrontation Roger had with the Chinese guy a long time ago.  ... A match GMaxwell will win, is the one where they compare technical knowledge and skills about Bitcoin.  Yeah, Maxwell's solution for Bitcoin is to let Core/Blockstream own and manage it. Great skills there. |
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BTC to USDT is the only way to go. Why don't you like that option?
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Roger Ver is trained in jiu jitsu I think, but anyone with good striking would knock the fuck out of him. It's time to get Gmaxwell on the gym with some boxing lessons, we can't let the Verconomics ruin bitcoin. Core will win.
Maxwell is very soft and blobby like a marshmallow. I don't think the gym is going to do anything for him for a very long time. |
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Enough is enough already! Let's get Roger Ver and GMaxwell into the octagon and just punch it out. Ver wins, it's 8MB; Max wins, it's SegWit. Winner take all. I say that fat fuck goes down in the first round.
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If confirmation times and fees made any difference, then people would choose one of the many alt coins available.
Block Space should be Expensive. And Fees should go to Miners.
Over a period of time, people will shift to alts. And that is not something we should all be happy about. Miners are compensated sufficiently by the block reward now. Transaction fees are peanuts to them. This is already happening bigly. Loads of really great systems are getting more mature each day. Dash is awesome. Even Ethereum with its challenges probably have a fantastic future 2 years out. Bitcoin cannot and will not break the impasse and will soon get into a crazy nosedive (about two years from now). Out with the old, in with the new. It is the normal way of things. |
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Hey, this topic should only be bumped when Bitcoin price drops. Since Bitcoin is up at 1220$ (Coinbase) people usually use this topic: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.0lol. true. Looks like the 'I told you so..' people decide the thread bumps around here. |
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All time high for the transaction fees : https://bitcoinfees.info/Now more than 50 cts for the 3 blocks fees ! The network is BLOATED and more people want to confirm transactions on the network. The result is spiking transaction fees that might seriously hurt the network and its growth in 2017 if there is nothing done very quickly. If nothing is done and transaction costs keep spiking, a lot of activity will move to cheaper rising networks like DASH. I am not saying it is a bad thing but Bitcoin is NOT well positioned right now at the technical level to benefit from its rise in popularity. This is good for Blockstream. Now more people will need lightning and will pay Adam Back to let them conduct their transactions on his side chain. This higher the fee, the better it is for Adam to start collecting fees on his private platform. Keep it up. Way up. |
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