Of the ten, only five, half, are actually good for late bing a better let me: don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't bear false witness against your neighbor, and don't covet. The one about honoring your mother and father are dubious, since people should be honored for what they do, not what they are (what if your father is a violent alcoholic, and your parents generally neglect you?)

What about things like don't rape, don't force people into slavery, don't commit fraud or lie, don't hit people, don't destroy other's property, or even just help others who need it if you're able? Seems like a lot of waste using up the first 4 of those commandments for just vain stuff.

Or those who understood the technology behind it, believed that there are no other serious options to replace it, and thought there was very little chance that it will fail, and a bug chance that it will take off and replace much of the financial system. There are quite a few of us who thought the concept of "cashing out" of bitcoin made as much sense as "cashing out" of dollars.

By the way, how many people have 100% of their savings invested in dollars, or euros?

And yet, there has not been a single case of an over unity device running for a year. Or even a few months. Hmmm...

I admit, that was pretty funny. But, you know what's cool? We get Obama, or anyone else, for 4 to 8 years tops. How long have you guys been stuck with Putin, and for how much longer?

Well THAT'S obviously outdated. The new uniforms are plain green, with balaklavas, and no labels.

They need to make that record a little bit more solid

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism#Russia


Sounds like Russia is using the same old tactic of trying to distract by pointing at someone else's problems. Besides, what do Ukrainian Nazis have to do with anything? This is a thread about Russia!

Oh. Well in that case this thread should be renamed Pictures from Mongolia.

How much of that US military industrial complex is in Russia right now? Or how about in Ukraine? None? Well, how much of Russia's military industrial complex is in Ukraine?

This is so typical of Russian bullshit and propaganda. They do things, then accuse someone else of doing that same things, both to distract others from what they are doing, and to excuse their behavior. If I murder you, that doesn't make it ok just because someone else committed murder too.

Please. Verify it. Show me where those billions that America supposedly spent on protesters went, since America has barely even agreed to give just $53 million for "non-lethal" support.  Show me all the Nazis that are in charge of the government, or how Poroshenko is controlled by them. Point to me where people of Crimea were demanding support from Russia, instead of wondering who the hell are all these green men that blocked their airports and borders, and prevented them from leaving.

So... What are they?

Pretty sure you're being overconfident with some of these guys.

Hmm. $60, gas is $2.50 a gallon, my Prius gets 55mpg on average, 60 ÷ 2.5 * 55 = 1,320 miles. I can drive half way from Washington DC to Mexico.

Isn't governments us?


Regarding bitcoin replacing fiat, this should be required reading for new bitcoiners http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/

Privacy is a big one. Reusing an address exposes that address, and any others you spend together with it later. It also helps others, since as a receiver of a payment your address is identifiable if change goes to the sender's address, but is private of both your addresses are new.

Security, with no public keys exposed, as already mentioned.

Much easier for users to secure and back up funds. Note that ALL your addresses and HD accounts are backed up using a single 12 words backup. You no longer have to back up every key individually, and make new backups for every new address you make.

Can you give us some examples of those directions and instructions for living a better life in the bible?

But all these guts are already claiming they know what to do. They have prototypes that they claim create free energy. So why did you bring up?


It costs $5,000 at most to patent it, at which point you can explain it publicly and not sorry about it being stolen. It probably costs much less than millions to create a small scale working model that you can use to prove it works, and let others test with. Why is money always an excuse with these guys, even if they have millions?


I know. I have an engineering background as well, in electromechanical engineering, dealing in linear motors and magnetic levitation. I also own patents and have been through the process of getting them, and have had to design and build my own models. I'm calling bullshit on all these things because I know how this stuff works.


What does danger have to do with proving whether it works? And what do you mean by 100G? The only way to get that kind of force is through centripetal motion, like on a spinning fly wheel. 100G is also not that dangerous if you use light materials or small scale. As for the lab, if he needs a lab and scientists to make this device to test it, then how does he even know it works? The only way would be to have some mathematical modeling engineering calculations. Should be easy to check and verify those.

That's how the MAGLEV patent I own is. Due to physics limitation, I can't build it too small scale, and the smallest scale possible would cost $170k, which is money I don't have. BUT, every piece of the invention is precisely mathematically calculated, using standard physics formulas, to every tiny detail, and can be checked and verified completely as a math model. Which it has been. You can calculate all the levitation forces, and prove that it works, without actually building it. That's how true engineers design stuff. Not this garage tinkering, hoping to accidentally guess something that will work without knowing how or why.


I'm arguing for the sake of pointing out that these guys are liars and charlatans at worst, and complete idiots at best. Sadly, the vast majority of them are lying scumbags.


My question, if you remember, is why does it need to be off? Let it use the extra energy it produces to power itself, and never turn it off. Problem of conserving produced power solved. But not a single one of these drives has ever been able to power itself indefinitely. Why don't you find that suspicious?



Also, oldest trick for these liars. Spend $3000 to $5000 to patent it, and no one will steal it. Better yet, give it to the world for free. People will give him a lot of money and praise anyway.


The universe runs on fusion, and there is no free energy in it. Stars enevtually fuse all the fuel they can, and die off. Planets and other orbiting things eventually slow down from friction, and fall into the star, assuming the star doesn't burn out and explode first. Everything in the universe is using up energy, not creating it.


Maybe yours is, but mine isn't. As I said, stop pretending that we are all nt smart enough, thus maybe things are true after al. Some of us ARE smart enough to know better. The universe engine that has been running for billions of years is loosing pass and burning up energy. There's a good change it will use all that energy up and stop after many more billion years. Or collapse back in on itself.

Yes there is! Random people on the internet raised $55,000 for some guy to make a potato salad on Kickstarter. I'm sure they would donate way for than that for something as awesome as a solution to the world's energy problem. Yet no one seems to ever be able to raise any money. It's as if they know that they can't prove their invention works to potential investors.


Why doesn't he borrow $1,000, build it himself, use it to power his house, and use the money he saves on not paying for electricity to pay for the patent? Even better, hook his neighbor us, and charge him half of what the power company charges. He'll earn enough to pay off the $1,000 loan and pay for a patent in no time.

And why are all these free energy invention guys such greedy assholes? Every single one of them claims they won't share the technology, because they want to patent it first. Did Satoshi patent bitcoin? Did Linus Trovalds patent Linux? Give the give of free energy to the world, and you will be praised and taken care of for ever. Hell, you'll even win a Nobel Prize, and that's a lot of money. It's as if the patent thing is just an excuse all of these guys use for not explaining how their system works, so they don't have to be held accountable or be xaught lying.




Yes. The full quote is "Energy can not be created or destroyed." Energy can only shift from one place to another, or be converted into and out of matter. When you run a motor, or use a conventional energy device, you are shifting energy from coal/wind/gravity/sun/nuclear fission into energy that moves your motor or heats something. When you create a "free energy" device, you are not shifting energy, you are creating energy out of nothing.


It doesn't matter how much knowledge we aquire, generation would never be 100% effective. There is always friction to overcome, even if it's from light glowing on the device, or magnetic fields from surroundings and the planet interfering with motion.


Scientists and physicists who actually know about this stuff (and anyone else who is educated enough) know they don't know everything. That's why their actual job is figuring out things they don't know. People who don't know jack shit make claims like "We think we know everything, " and then add, "in reality we don't know anything" to make themselves seem intellectually superior.


Not sure where your going with this, but most electricity in US is generated from coal. Must of it in Europe and Japan is from nuclear. If there was no oil, chances are we'd be driving electric cars, but I doubt we'd be in the dark ages.



I watched that interview. Note that everything is based on what he says, nothing is explained, and (this is the most important part) he has to plug it in to get it working, and then turns it off. Why not turn it on, plug it into itself, and just let it run indefinitely?

Asmi pointed put a while ago in this thread, why do all overunity machines have to be started up, and then shut down, instead of being allowed to run under their own power for ever?

Ok, I'll answer. I own those bitcoins. Those bitcoins are my property. The raw materials I work to create are my property. Yes, I can own a sequence of bits, or more specifically the secret that lets me control those sequence of bits. I own my thoughts and my ideas, the secret securing my private keys being one of them.

And again, I ask, why don't you make one of those yourself? Why are there dozens, if not hundreds, of these inventions, and not a single guy shares the technical details or instructions for how to build it, and no two people ever seem to build the same type of device?
And before you say "money," we have crowdfjnding and loans. Raise or borrow some money, build one at home, use it to power your neighbors' houses and charge them for electricity, then use that money to pay back investors or bank. Very easy, but no one in the entire world is doing it. Why?