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321  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Los Angeles (SoCal) Bitcoiners Meetup? on: January 02, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
The next LA Bitcoin meetup:

Bitcoin Discussion and Q&A with Andreas M. Antonopoulos
Thursday, January 9, 2014, 7:00 pm
Amplify - 1600 Main St., Venice, CA

322  Economy / Goods / Re: NEFT Vodka and Bitcoin on: January 02, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
Anyone know, is it possible to get this in the USA?

Good news!  

I've been informed that NEFT is now "available in California" and that they are "looking to begin in Las Vegas" this month.

These do have the Bitcoin logo on the barrel (as they were on the ones at the Bitcoin Conference in San Jose).

I didn't get the name(s) of merchants selling NEFT, ... but I believe BevMo was supposed to be one.

I'll solicit help from some SoCal Bitconers to learn where NEFT can be purchased, but if anyone following this thread already knows, please share!

323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NSA can rob peoples BTC wallet in new devices such as the iphone on: December 31, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
While I don't spend my time sweating the NSA,

Yes, I'm comfortable with the opinion that the NSA isn't trying to steal people's bitcoins.

I'm more worried about the rogue sysadmin at a mobile carrier that has access to sneak in a few lines of code into an official update, unbeknownst to all until the bitcoins are swiped.  Discussed here:

Can a mobile be protected against the “Linode problem”?

324  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Whatever happened with Bitcoin Wireless? on: December 30, 2013, 12:11:54 PM seems frozen in time.

Worse, ... looks aborted as it now has that backpack girl.

I remember hearing from Charlie Shrem at the Atlanta bitcoin conference in October that they were moving forward with that.

Maybe plans changed.  Or maybe it will be a different brand?
325  Local / Marketplace (India) / Re: WTB: gift certificate (INR) on: December 30, 2013, 11:23:56 AM
I would like to add funds (rupees / INR) to my account at Milaap, which is like a Kiva in India (though these are all no-interest loans).

I'm looking to add 3,000 Rs again.  

How this works is,
1.) You and I agree on the rate (in BTC) for your 3,000 Rs.  [e.g., ~0.067 BTC if using today's BTC/USD of $730 on BitStamp]
2.) I provide to you my e-mail address.
3.) You buy a 3,000 Rs gift e-card from Milaap, paying with your Netbanking or with an Indian credit card.  Entering my e-mail as the gift recipient.

 -  <-- PM me for my Milaap "lender name and e-mail".

4.) You send to me your Bitcoin address for my payment
5.) I receive the e-mail, redeem the gift e-card, and send to you the bitcoins.

PM me if interested
326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting around a government ban on BTC on: December 19, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
That's what '' does.

I'm guessing that the fun will come to an end if/when it becomes unlawful to deposit cash into a random person's account without some modicum of 'know-your-whatever-ness'.  I'm surprised it's even allowed now to be honest.  Probably it would be implemented by some combination of claw-backs and/or banks just shutting out customers who do this.  My guess.

I forgot about that ... sure, if cash deposit in China works, then or similar service there would work pretty well.    That is .., until they start confiscating funds of people caught selling coins that way.

I wonder if cash deposit (by a third party, without providing identity) is an accepted method in China.
327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting around a government ban on BTC on: December 18, 2013, 07:49:33 PM
What would an exchange look like that is able to get around this?

Any decentralized approach taking advantage of a payment network with A2A (Account-To-Account) transfers will work.  


It's easy for China to crack down on one or two large exchanges which integrate with the banking system.

It's a lot harder for them to crack down on individuals using Alipay or similar.  

That's why many, many individuals today still trade bitcoins for Dwolla -- even with Dwolla saying they don't allow any Bitcoin trading.  You won't find the advertisements from those who do it, but the trades happen.  Daily.   Same for PayPal, etc.

328  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: List of court cases, complaints, regulatory actions, etc. on: November 20, 2013, 07:41:54 AM
Location: Newark, New Jersey
November 19, 2013

Abstract: The Attorney General for the state of New Jersey sued E-Sports Entertainment whose software was updated mine bitcoins on its customers computers.

 - (Judgement viewed in browser-friendly PDF viewer)

The AG’s office says that company co-founder Eric Thunberg and software engineer Sean Hunczak were both involved in the scam. In a statement posted to its website, ESEA said the software was the work of a single engineer, presumably Hunczak


Previously a class action suit had been filed:
329  Economy / Economics / Re: Hedge against BitCoin collapse on: November 15, 2013, 01:28:05 PM
I own no LTC or PPC.

Just for posterity, I believe that at one time you had offered to borrow LTC so that you could sell it to have a short position.  I don't know if you had completed that transaction but disclosing that you have no position now might not be an objective way of describing your position.

For the record, I too own no LTC or PPC, but at some point in the future would possibly consider LTC.  My criteria for a proof-of-work based crypt coin is simply is whether or not sufficient hashing capacity exists.  If (when) a Scrypt ASIC gives the litecoin network's total hashrate a boost such that a 51% there too becomes uneconomical then I might be willing to acquire some LTC.

My biggest fear is selfish mining or some other hack on the system.governments.   

I would say that going short on futures contracts would be one such hedging opportunity that would pay off on a Bitcoin collapse.  The problem with the futures contracts on ICBit, however, is counterparty risk such that your profitable position can be closed prior to settlement date without you seeing the full gains that you would were you able to hold to the settlement date.
330  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anybody tried Square Cash? on: November 13, 2013, 12:59:09 AM
Try it, totally free, no signup:

Free of charge to use.   But nothing is free.   To use this you need to have location enabled, for one -- so you know that data is being recorded, archived and likely shared with marketers.

Also, as many Square merchants learned, if there are disputes your deposits get delayed or reversed.  Here's an example:

So let's see how long before there is a chorus of people who were expecting a deposit that never happens.  It's a new service and is for "cash" (versus credit card) though ... so maybe they'll have fewer issues.
331  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: accepting BTC in other countries on: November 12, 2013, 07:51:45 PM
Now they seem to have recently enabled BTC in other countries including UK ( and France (

Quote is the name under which the company is internationally known. However, we are active in 10 countries and the names of websites change from one country to another: – (United Kingdom), (Netherlands), (Belgium), (Germany), (Austria), (Switzerland), (Denmark), (Luxembourg), Hä (Sweden) and (France). In total, our websites already include more than 20.000 member restaurants.

 - (United Kingdom)
 - (Netherlands)
 - (Belgium)
 - (Germany)
 - (Austria)
 - (Switzerland)
 - (Denmark)
 - (Luxembourg)
 - http://Hä (Sweden)
 - (France)

Other takeout / delivery services that take Bitcoin:

 - (U.S.)
 - (U.S.)

 - (Papa Johns gift certificates)

There are individual restaurants who take Bitcoin but do takeout and/or delivery as well, but those are not part of a service like the ones above.
332  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Safe JavaScript Bitcoin address/private key on: November 12, 2013, 03:16:28 PM
Is there a walk through available on importing it into the wallet?

Bitcoin-Qt doesn't support BIP-0038 so you'ld need to convert the decrypt the BIP-0038 encrypted private key and then import that [edit: into your client, such as Bitcoin-Qt].  To decrypt the BIP-0038 encrypted private key click on the Wallet Details tab of and enter or paste the BIP-0038 encrypted private key.  It will then prompt you for the BIP-0038 passphrase, and if it was correct the page will show the Bitcoin address and the private key (both the WIF, as well as WIF Compressed).
333  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Importing KNOWN private keys into a wallet on: November 12, 2013, 12:32:52 AM
Imported keys will never be used as change, unless you specify it.

Depends on the client. will pick one in your wallet for you.  I don't know how the other clients work.
334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Importing KNOWN private keys into a wallet on: November 11, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Is there any disadvantage to importing a known private key, or easily crackable private key, into a wallet with other personal addresses that aren't meant to be public.

With Bitcoin-Qt the imported key with a prior transaction will show as used and won't then be used for change in the future.   But not all wallets work that way, and could possibly send change to some other address from the wallet (e.g., chosen at random).

So, it is nearly ALWAYS a bad idea to import a private key into your wallet if you aren't sure that you are the only party with control of that private key.
335  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Escrow list on: November 11, 2013, 09:21:01 PM
I don't see anything about Coinguard here yet.

336  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Cancelling unconfirmed transactions on: November 11, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
Yes a Rebroadcast feature should b e added.

337  Bitcoin / Press / Re: International Man: Making Sense of Bitcoin on: November 11, 2013, 11:56:48 AM

While this was a good article, it is from May, 2013.

Putting the date in the title (i.e., 2013-05-10) is expected for all posts here on this board.
338  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: How Can I Earn Bitcoins? on: November 11, 2013, 11:17:33 AM
I see a new service, WorkForCrypto, claims to be like a "Fiverr for Bitcoin". 

On that you can list an offer of a good or service you offer and the price:

This would be kind of similar to what the now defunct ForBitcoin used to have.
339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Getting a San Diego Restaurant to Accept Bitcoin on: November 11, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
It took a while, but this is worthy of performing a necrothread revival:

Join us this Thursday for a meet up in San Diego county's first restaurant to accept bitcoin. Come on by for some great Italian and support the cause. November 14, 2013 - 7:30pm

Spirito's Italian Diner
2508 El Camino Real
Carlsbad, CA
340  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tips for local transactions on: November 10, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
Certain times of the day carry a higher risk of being robbed or mugged than others.

"Most of the crimes take place between 6p.m and 3a.m."
"A walk along Nairobi streets confirms that mobile money shops operators are not taking any chances with security. Most of them have fortified their shops with metal bars and heavy glass the way commercial banks do."

Here's a report by someone claiming to have gotten knocked down and robbed while enroute to do a trade:
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