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901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. CrowdFunding Bill on: May 10, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
Why do you think it's inconceivable for a bitcoin exchange to operate in the US?

I guess I paint with a wide brush.

One of the allures of a BitFunder, for instance, is that an issuer can register, be listed and complete an IPO in a short amount of time and at little expense.  These factors are nowhere in the list of top 100 priorities for the SEC.    They aren't looking to enable scrappy entrepreneurs.  They are looking to have layers of filters, which is what was more needed before this thing called the Internet enabled individuals to do a halfway decent job of due diligence on their own.

Additionally, one of the allures of investing and trading on an cyber-equities exchange like BitFunder is that accounts are pseudonymous -- so there's no limitation that would restrict investor base to any geographic or jurisdictional boundaries.   There is no way an exchange with anonymous accounts will ever be operating with the SEC's blessing.

What could happen is that an online broker could accept bitcoins as a funding method.  Like e-Trade letting you add funds which are converted to USDs and credited to your account for trading NYSE, NASDAQ and other listed securities.  
902  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Is anyone buying call options? on: May 10, 2013, 09:48:26 PM
I am wondering if anyone is buying call options?(write to purchase BTC at a certain price by a certain date)

Which are you looking to do ... buy or sell (write)?

There is one service that provides CALL options.  There are other financial instruments with leverage as well:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Financial

You might also find someone willing to enter a CALL option contract with you over-the-counter but escrow (of BTCs or USDs) is recommended unless you are trading with a trusted counterparty.
 - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Option_orders
903  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Sending coins to trash -- probably the biggest threat to bitcoin on: May 10, 2013, 09:37:04 PM
figure out at what point it would make sense to add more decimal places in order to avert an inflationary spiral that will eventually result from lost coins

Did you mean to write deflationary spiral?  Or??

Anyway, adding more decimal places doesn't create more coins.     The same amount of money exists with $1 as does with 100 pennies.
904  Economy / Services / Re: A new job on: May 10, 2013, 09:25:31 PM
Here is a new job for you guys: http://bittask.com/topic.php?id=584


You should also add those to that site's Twitter account to get additional exposure.
905  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-10 Forbes.com Video: Kashmir Hill's Week Of Bitcoin on: May 10, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
Additional links on her Week Of Bitcoin series:

 - http://onforb.es/199d9Zo (Week Of Bitcoin Series Of Posts)
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200458.0 (Further discussion of the series)
906  Bitcoin / Press / Re: NEW articles in Press Forum on: May 10, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
2013-05-10 Forbes.com Video: Kashmir Hill's Week Of Bitcoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201343.0
907  Bitcoin / Press / 2013-05-10 Forbes.com Video: Kashmir Hill's Week Of Bitcoin on: May 10, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
Video: Kashmir Hill's Week Of Bitcoin

Forbes writer, Kashmir Hill, invited Bitcoiners to join her for a dinner at Sake Zone in San Francisco to celebrate the conclusion of her Week Of Bitcoin series.   In her video she interviews some of those who joined her.

 - http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video.html?freewheel=69016&sitesection=forbes&VID=24812952
908  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: [ANN] Going to Bitcoin Conference 2013 San Jose, CA (Rollcall & Hotel Choice) on: May 10, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
bar raids sounds great.

Would someone coming from where NEFT is sold (e..g, Europe) be willing to pick up and deliver a bottle can drum barrel (1 Liter) of NEFT?  PM me please if interested.  This is solely for me to further my research into ways that Bitcoin is being marketed, of course Wink  :


909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is my bitcoin wallet address traceable back to me? on: May 10, 2013, 03:35:09 AM
I am just now learning about and using bitcoin. So my question is, if I want to publicly display my bitcoin wallet adress somewhere to receive monies (BTC) is there any way for that wallet address to be traceable back to me and they can find out who is the owner of that BTC wallet address?

Every Bitcoin transaction is traceable.   If you publicly give out a Bitcoin address that makes it even easier to tie that address to your identity -- especially is that "public display" is on a web page indexed by Google or some other search method as then it is as simple as Googling that address. 

For improved privacy, use a different Bitcoin address for each transaction (i.e., give out the address for each request).  There are techniques to obtain =an even greater level of privacy (e.g., shared send from Blockchain.info/wallet, or mixing service).
910  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Sending coins to trash -- probably the biggest threat to bitcoin on: May 09, 2013, 10:21:51 PM
I'm afraid it's not quite that simple... So, assuming that the BTC-based economy will eventually flourish, can you imaging the ripple effect an act of trashing a single bitcoin could have on that economy?
You have an imagination of some sort techno-taliban: like if dynamiting the Buddha statues would damage buddism.

This recurring and overblown worry about lost coins has me wondering of the source.  

I'm presuming this has little to do with truly protecting bitcoin, but instead is all about getting a foot in the door with some method of demurrage (call it reclaiming of "lost" coins or whatever).   Get that implmented and then a protocol change for currency inflation or some type of taxation is just an incremental step further.
911  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New to investing - a question on stop loss orders on: May 09, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
Does any exchanges offer this function?

No market exchanges in which you are buying or selling bitcoins currently offer this.

It has been something discussed for years though.  Camp BX's site has mentioned them since its June 2011 launch, for example.

912  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Family member - SEPA/IBAN send money on: May 09, 2013, 08:32:25 PM
I have a mtgox verified account, but I'm not sure if I can add a family members bank account to my mtgox account. 

That's correct -- you cannot withdraw from Mt. Gox to someone else's account.

The other person is free to create a Mt. Gox account and then withdraw the funds that way, however there's no guarantee they won't be subjected to the requirement of having to verify an account.

There are other SEPA exchanges with less restrictions.   I believe with BITSTAMP you can specify the account for a SEPA withdrawal at the time of the withdrawal, therefore you could enter a family member's account at that time -- presuming it is below their AML restrictions.

Another method is to arrange a local transaction.   For instance, with LocalBitcoins.com you would arrange to have the family member pick up cash from a buyer.  How that would work as a three-way transaction is where you would arrange everything, then release the bitcoins when your family member confirms that the buyer is there with cash in a face-to-face trade and then you release the coins at that time:
 - http://www.LocalBitcoins.com
913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: As a store owner who accepts bitcoins, anyone who wants can track my income on: May 09, 2013, 07:45:48 PM
how about use one address for a day and the next day use a new address. This way they will not know your total take in and easier for owner to manage.

What if you had two customers pay the same amount at about the same time?  How would you know which customer paid and which didn't?

The proper way is for there to be a new Bitcoin address for each transaction. 

Shopping cart / E-commerce software already accommodates this.  Use a third-party payment processor if you want (e.g.. BitPay, Coinbase, etc.) and you'll never have to know nor care what a Bitcoin address is.

914  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin support a blockchain that is 1000 times bigger? Is it scalable? on: May 09, 2013, 07:38:37 PM
We are gonna have 1000 times more transactions a day.

Well, there are per-block limits, though those are increasing and not permanent.

Can the bitcoin network/clients can handle such a huge blockchain?

 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability#Storage


915  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-09 TheGenesisBlock.com - US Regulatorís Confusion Around Bitcoin Is Exac on: May 09, 2013, 05:45:47 PM
Now all we need is for the SEC to define Bitcoin as a security and we'll have a regulatory trifecta.
916  Bitcoin / Press / Re: NEW articles in Press Forum on: May 09, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
2013-05-09 TheGenesisBlock.com - US Regulatorís Confusion Around Bitcoin Is Exac

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200305.0
917  Bitcoin / Press / 2013-05-09 TheGenesisBlock.com - US Regulatorís Confusion Around Bitcoin Is Exac on: May 09, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
US Regulatorís Confusion Around Bitcoin Is Exactly Why No One Wants Them Involved
by Phil Archer
TheGenesisBlock.com

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[CFTC's Bart Chilton] stated on bloomberg.tv: 'In essence, weíre talking about a type of shadow currency, and there is more than a colorable argument to be made that derivative products relating to Bitcoin falls squarely in our jurisdiction.'
[...]
Bitcoin clearly does not derive its value from the future purchase of an underlying asset. Therefore, if the CFTC plans to regulate bitcoin, they must consider bitcoin either a commodity or forex, with the intent to regulate bitcoin forex or bitcoin derivatives.
[...]
Since bitcoin is not the currency of a foreign government, but rather the first global currency, it would seem their power to regulate bitcoin as forex does not apply.
[...]
Bitcoin being declared a commodity would create an interesting contrast with fincenís March guidance requiring bitcoin exchanges to be registered as Money Service Businesses (MSB).
[...]
So it seems the US Government has no idea how to classify bitcoin: is it a currency or a commodity? Any CFTC ruling would likely declare bitcoin a commodity and put it in a Schrodingerís Cat state Ė it would coexist as both a currency and a commodity.
[...]
FinCEN was forced to create a new definition for virtual currencies, and we expect the CFTC to do the same. However, those living in fear of what the CFTCís decision may hold should have solace in the fact that any regulations will be largely unenforceable anyway.

 - http://www.thegenesisblock.com/us-regulators-confusion-around-bitcoin-is-exactly-why-no-one-wants-them-involved/
918  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Initial replace-by-fee implementation is now available on testnet on: May 09, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Regarding the reward,

For context on that:

Someone by the name of John Dillon (john.dillon892@googlemail.com) emailed the bitcoin-development email list earlier this morning offering a $500USD reward to anyone who implements a transaction replacement-by-fee patch.

That thread is:

Reminder: zero-conf is not safe; $1000USD reward posted for replace-by-fee patch
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179612.0

919  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Need to buy bitcoins ASAP on: May 09, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
I am in India, but the point is I need to do some type of bank transfer or something online so in that case it seems irrelevant where I am at because I need to do everything online.

Deposit cash in India:
 - http://buysellbitco.in

920  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-05-06 NY Times: A Push for a Bitcoin Buttonwood on: May 08, 2013, 03:09:51 AM

Popper has been around Bitcoin enough to know how it works, but then he writes:

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In order to transfer the online currency, Mr. Rossi used his smartphone to take a picture of the graphic code on Mr. Gundenís phone, which provided access to his bitcoin account.

With readers not knowing that Bitcoin doesn't have "Bitcoin accounts", I suppose this was just a way of describing how the buyer, Rossi, learned where to send the payment to. 

But that was a poor way to describe it.

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