I locked the actual bet thread here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101751.0) because all 10,000BTC available to me have been bet in the wager as seen here ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajtx05YrHtIydFVHcGxLOExTbnhqajJLZmlSZUNtM3c#gid=0). This thread is merely for trolls to try and spread FUD ("He doesn't have the money!", "He's colluding with pirate!", "He's a woman in a man's body!", etc) but also to discuss the current events because I will now be on the road and less access to a computer (iPhone only). I'd like things organized for that reason and so I am creating this thread. To start things off, when I was on IRC we played a little game of 20 questions to the detractors because they were so sure of themselves (sound familiar? didn't we just have a bet for that reason??  ) but it's actually a good way for the community to keep a record of my statements so that I can just give idiot trolls a link to what I said instead of repeating myself 10000 times a day (one time for each bitcoin!). If you want to play the game (which you don't have to, feel free to comment as you may), simply post your question in the following format: #1
Are you as shitty of a singer as you sound in your dumb youtube videos?
I promise I will answer any and all questions here truthfully, unless of course the involve revealing personal information (my home address, cell phone number, penis size, anus size, quantity of balls, etc). As only 20 questions are allowed, please mind previous poster's question # and increment yours accordingly. Any duplicate # used will be ignored completely.Cheers |
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If Matthew loses the bet and tries to get out of it, he'll be removed anyway. Let's lock this topic until the results come in.
Indeed. That dirty scammer's gonna get what's coming to him! |
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Thank you everyone for showing a huge amount of integrity to bet for your beliefs instead of just arguing, defaming, accusing, aggravating, etc. Many of you truly believe Pirate is a ponzi, many of you are simply utilizing my offer for hedging, and still others are simply happy to take a 50/50 chance bet on anything. Regardless, we are at the 10,000BTC mark and thus I am locking the thread so that no more bets can be received here.
I still believe there is a very high chance that Pirate is just doing a business which we don't understand, and my sinking gut, although questioning his lack of professionalism, lateness, etc, reminds me that no one is perfect and it may all just be a series of bad coincidences. I hope I am right and that I am able to prove to the community once and for all that what we don't understand is not always a scam. If I happen to be wrong, I'm happy to have enjoyed this entertaining time with everyone, and I've actually made quite a lot of new friends (as you can imagine).
The original OP states that the bet ends 3 weeks after August 19, 2012, 04:49:20 PM, so that means it ends on September 9th, 2012, 04:49:20 PM KST (Korean Standard Time, local to me). I think I had mentioned a slightly longer deadline elsewhere on IRC out of confusion (September 12th perhaps?), but this is incorrect as you can clearly see. The bet will also end if Pirate has provided proof of paying back all (not 99.9%) of his obligated debts and interests per agreements, whichever comes first.
Good luck to everyone and thank you for participating in this monumental lesson for all of us.
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I'll take the remaining 5BTC and change; sure you wanna get out of here.
Total bet of 30BTC
3CK4fEwbMP7heJarmU4eqA3sMbVJyEnU3V
Declined. Thank you so much for the gesture but the following individual had posted on IRC and I agreed just moments before. Sorry! 5
1Ht7dWv3Hyp6NZaYM7arbis2rCDpBBhwET
Accepted (previously discussed on IRC) |
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I can risk another 45.
increase from 250 to
295.7388554300014
1EzdZBu6DJUqScXFbRYbTXPqTcXNAUKAxc
Cheers. Good luck to all of us.
Accepted. |
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25BTC
3CK4fEwbMP7heJarmU4eqA3sMbVJyEnU3V
Get you a little closer to leaving.
Accepted (lol) |
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I need to leave in 1 hour. I hope someone comes by with the last bet or increase of their bet for 70.7388554300014 BTC exactly so we can end this as I wil need to drive down south to pick up my girlfriend and I may take the entire day to get back.  |
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1000BTC
17MNJtKX4m6JSP4EgGYJzzXfVfNgrhXZN6
As discussed with Matthew by pm.
Accepted. |
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You're not proving anything with this crap other than that you're a douche bag.
+1, I thought it was just the old trolling Matthew is back, but this is like a whole new level. Wtf is going on with you? I agree, the constant spamming of the bet to any remotely related thread is an annoyance to me. The amount of related thread is also annoying, i think MNW calling them out is a good thing Bingo. I am responding to the community at a faster rate then the community can respond to me. This is bad for moderators only. Not so, it's bad for the person spamming/trolling because they are the ones who get banned. Staff or not. I won't spam. Was just trying to counter balance the FUD on the threads. My bad. |
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Bump me up to 200 BTC.
No comment.
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Please make me 300BTC now.
Acknowledged. |
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That said, just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean it is a scam with 100% certainty, and accusations should be made accordingly. , Ok, so if we find out this was a ponzi with 100% certainty, do you think all the FUD being spread was unwarranted? Considering it hit all the red flags (which is the only way to detect a ponzi, and as far as I know there are no examples of legit businesses hitting them like that) and considering what's at stake? Do you also scold people who passionately warn others to encrypt their wallets, backup private keys, and maintain control of their own BTC? I mean, you don't know for sure they're going to get hacked or have a hard drive crash, after all. Backing up your wallet doesn't harm another person's business btw. |
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Can you add an 'I don't know you' option?
+1 In fact, because I don't know, I'd say you're a douchebag for assuming it. Selection made. |
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Whenever I tell people about having met a particular sociopath - invariably someone will tell me that they can just 'spot them'.
I think Matthew is the sort of person who *thinks* he can spot a sociopath. Many of them don't bother to hide their identities - consequences are just something to be weaseled out of later.
You don't truly understand sociopaths, until you realize that you don't understand sociopaths. They can often mimic emotion and empathy - or they wouldn't be good at what they do.
(I suspect that even sociopaths don't understand sociopathy - it just works for them)
YOU CALLIN' ME A SOCIOPATH!? haha just kidding. LOL. For the record.. no... I'm referring to pirate, but hey, I can't spot a sociopath until 30 minutes after they've ducked out of the restaurant to grab a smoke  I actually haven't put any money into pirate's scheme, nor made a bet one way or another. I do lean towards him being a sociopath though - but that's the danger of having encountered them. You can start to think you see them everywhere! I suspect he may pay back - but only because he's found some way to rustle up a few million and use that goodwill to pull off a much bigger ponzi next time! I won't be investing in his next scheme no matter what. Good on you mate. Don't invest in high risk bullshit. I don't know what he's doing either, but I these people are throwing thousands of bitcoins into it expecting a profit. I expect my money back, but profits? Pff. Best just trade on the market. |
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Whenever I tell people about having met a particular sociopath - invariably someone will tell me that they can just 'spot them'.
I think Matthew is the sort of person who *thinks* he can spot a sociopath. Many of them don't bother to hide their identities - consequences are just something to be weaseled out of later.
You don't truly understand sociopaths, until you realize that you don't understand sociopaths. They can often mimic emotion and empathy - or they wouldn't be good at what they do.
(I suspect that even sociopaths don't understand sociopathy - it just works for them)
YOU CALLIN' ME A SOCIOPATH!? haha just kidding. |
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I came back to this thread because I thought it said "Women are free market". Sadly, only dudes here.
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I don't buy or sell, but I'm gonna panic just for the hell of it!
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You don't have to die to give your soul bad karma.
Then your title should state "dank karma guarantee" not "dank soul guarantee". If you're not offering to commit seppuku in a sealed EM shielded box, then "soul" is false advertising. I'm pretty sure everyone puts their soul on the line when they chose to be honest traders or not. You've elegantly articulated the reason why having a soul as collateral is basically worthless. No one can collect it if you screw them over. Since we all live in the present dank, how about you start providing something that we can believe in, like your identity for starters? How does that make it worthless? Maybe you don't give two shits about your soul, but I do, hence why I wouldn't fuck anybody over. Certain members on this forum already have my banking info, others know my name. That's enough identification for me. Besides, if I was a scammer, I'd photoshop a fake ID. If your musical skills match your would-be photoshop skills, I highly doubt it would pass for real. Also, no one cares about your soul, they care about their money in this lifetime. Keep your spiritualism out of Bitcoin and if there is someone who has knowledge of your banking details or identity, provide them as a reference. Let's not forget I've been using photoshop at least 100x longer than guitar. But whatever you say man, you seem to think you know me pretty well. I know what you show, and what you show isn't cutting it. |
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I don't know if I'm going to regret this, I still have the uneasy feeling Matt knows something we don't...but...I'm gonna double down.
Id like to increase my wager to 10 btc.
Accepted. (There is nothing I know that you don't know (related to this bet), just a strong opinion and belief in humanity.) |
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I wish to increaase my bet to 1000btc.
Accepted. |
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