Fair warning, everything you guys are saying is being reported as Off-topic and will probably be removed. If you're not going to bet, stand down and watch. There are plenty of other threads for talk.
This thread is for action.
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Can I add 10 BTC, up my free money to 100 BTC? Accepted. In that case: 100 BTC 1B2ChfKWKDvEzhaxQBE1hVaw8a7c93qTkC Never trust a pirate.
Increased wager confirmed.
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Can I add 10 BTC, up my free money to 100 BTC? Accepted.
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I see my local B&N is one of the stores that will carry the magazine. We should try to buy all the stores out!
What for? To artificially inflate demand to force/encourage Matt/Vladimir to increase production resulting in increased cost and a total bust when the community suddenly decides to stop following this amazing plan of "buying all the stores out"? True, but if few sell they may yank them from the shelves before finding an audience. I'm most excited about the customers who find it on the rack and say: "WTF is bitcoin?, hmm, let's see.... Woah sweet!" Basically, just buy as many as you want/need, nothing more. We are looking for support, but Barnes & Noble understands that even the best magazines don't sell out.
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Welcome back, Atlas.
Whatever happened to Atlas? I saw him on here a long time ago. He killed himself, then created an account named "Wolf Lizard", then got banned again.
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sorry for the OT question: is there any safety in the quote beyond the trustworthiness of the quoter? is there any log in the forum which the admins can see?
Yes. They can see logs, edits, etc. Theymos can also confirm data in PMs if necessary if someone lies.
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And you take it until the bet ends?? Say he hasn't paid on day 20. You still take bets? that's insane. If I were you, I'd stop taking new bets at least a week earlier than the 3 weeks resolution time. Nah. I'm firm on this one.
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What's the cutoff?
Up until the bet ends. No, I mean when does pirate have to pay by? 3 weeks. why would it take that long? Chances are it won't, but if it was said to be 1 week and it ended up being 8 days, I wouldn't want to lose the bet on that kind of ridiculous technicality, so we're doing this on good faith and saying 3 weeks max (although personally I think it will be done by Friday).
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Thanks for the tip in the Macbook thread. If you win the bet, consider this a reward for saving me from possibly getting scammed there.
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Acknowledged? Acknowledged! ^^
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What's the cutoff?
Up until the bet ends.
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I just want to say Matthew N. Wright is the biggest attention whoring egomaniac I've come across on any Forum, since a decade of reading them.
Hehe. Are you not entertained?
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Jut wanted you to keep the part where you said you knowingly worked with the scammer bitscalper.
Where did I say that? I discovered he was Bitscalper and collected evidence, then kicked him out. You're delusional (as usual). \ Now that it is quoted people can read your side of the story and make of it what they will. As you know there is more to this story and it will come out. Anyway my point in having you repost this was to show to people investing in BDT that they are working with bitscalper. Thanks for helping me out here buddy. Lots of love as always:) The only point that matters is that bitdaytrader is Bitscalper. Everything else is the delusional ravings of the uninformed.
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Jut wanted you to keep the part where you said you knowingly worked with the scammer bitscalper.
Where did I say that? I discovered he was Bitscalper and collected evidence, then kicked him out. You're delusional (as usual).
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Sadly this is all I saved of his post.
Don't worry, I wouldn't leave properly quoting something to someone with your lack of integrity. Since you're ready to ask instead of judging blindly, I'd be happy to. Took you long enough I might add.
When I was asked to join in on Kronos for management purposes (things weren't getting done fast enough and JRO liked my style of managing teams), I was invited on. There was a developer there, "Alberto" whom I was told was doing all the coding for that particular project, and that my job was merely to make sure everyone was doing their job.
The first order passed down was to begin a closed Beta. JRO was extremely careful to explain to everyone that the beta should be closed, and only a pre-approved list of individuals would be able to have access, so that we would not open the site up to potential threats from outside sources and would give us a chance to do tests in a trusted environment. We all agreed, and a list was made. For each person who was sent an invite, their information was added to the list. A day after we all agreed, I caught Alberto posting "free invites" on reddit and IRC. Since I was brand new and didn't understand the relationship between JRO and Alberto, I decided to wait until I could discuss with JRO privately about the action before reprimanding Alberto. JRO however, as usual, was gone for several days, mainly because he was helping Jered Kenna set up 20mission in SF.
While he was gone, Alberto reported in the Skype chatroom that there was a theft! Obviously we were all very surprised, because there is nothing -to steal-. It's a closed server, protected code (by Alberto himself) and there should be no funds connected to the server at all. In fact, as far as I was lead to believe, ZipConf was the only way to take founds out and that was controlled by a completely different system entirely for a different company. After much dramatic effect, I finally got the story from Alberto that he had left a gaping hole in his code on a single page, and that allowed a hacker into the system to steal $20,000USD in Bitcoins that were given to Alberto by an investor.
You can imagine how speechless I was, but I tried to do my job and do damage control. Alberto however was obsessed with discussing the thieves and possibly tracking them down, saying it must have been an inside job etc. He wasn't willing to explain the facts of what happened as much as hypothesize on who could have stolen it. This threw up some red flags for me immediately, especially since he became increasingly defensive about the origin of the funds when inquired. I felt it was my job to know whose funds those in fact were, but he refused to answer and was quite rude about it. Later I would found out from JRO that it was in fact funds from an investor that Bitscalper had previously been bragging about his relationship with to me on Skype back when I was talking to him about Bitscalper.com in the early days (please see countless threads where I was asking him questions about asking for proof etc, long story, not worth getting into here).
The name rang a bell and I realized the connection. Both are italian. Both know this super secret investor. Then I started to realize they both talk the same. They both act the same when backed up into a corner. I immediately neutralized the situation as best as I could and said that we needed to shut everything down, but to wait for JRO before any decisions were made (obviously because I wanted to tell JRO what I had learned). When JRO returned, he was naturally both disappointed and furious. How could such a thing happen? Turns out, Alberto had ignored every protocol we had and decided instead to connect his code straight to MtGox's API instead of using ZipConf as he was supposedly instructed to do. This makes no sense for us to have a direct connection to MtGox when we are planning integration of ZipConf for security purposes. It makes no sense why he would set it up that way. I began to become extremely suspicious because it seemed like it was all planned. This and my newfound suspicions that he was Bitscalper led me to a conversation with JRO about him.
I spoke with some other members of the community in very high places and asked them to run some information on him. Everything came back positive. He was bitscalper (this is obvious now, as you can see from the pastebin where he posted with his same bitscalper scammer banned email address in his faux letter to himself about JRO btw). So I talked with JRO about it and told him that if he wanted me to work with him any longer, the very first thing to do was to kick him out of the group -immediately-. JRO agreed, but recommended that we be smart about it and not scare him away, since he had put his own reputation on the line for investments etc and wanted to make sure certain projects were completed first. JRO agreed to kick him out of Kronos immediately, but decided to allow him to keep developing BitcoinRebate, only under the condition that any and all code be immediately audited by our security professional (who had been busy working on ZipConf and not 100% involved with Kronos yet at the time, as it was just closed beta). I wanted no part of BItcoinRebate, ZipConf seemed positive, but Kronos was now out $20k. This is not a good first week of work for me, for sure. We decided to ignore the losses and move on to complete the project and recoup. We spoke with the investor of the $20k, and he agreed that the individual was in fact Bitscalper, and that he had invested into him for Bitscalper.com as well, and -that- money was also stolen. JRO signed a personal promisory note with the investor, taking full responsibility for Bitscalper's losses in an effort to mend the obviously painfully severed ties (as a matter of fact, JRO has done nothing but try to be everything for everyone, to his disadvantage).
After this, we later learned from our security professional and the lead developer of ZipConf, that ZipConf would require much more development and testing, basically outright said that it would be extremely high risk for anyone operating it, and basically after the Kronos theft, he was understandable shy of signing off on anything at all. ZipConf seemed effectively dead, Kronos was underfunded, and I didn't even know about BitcoinRebate really, much less who owned what parts or what money went into it from whom. I'm used to working on $0 budget with manpower only. JRO is used to working with investments. Much different ballgame obviously.
From then on, as a friend, I offered to help JRO continue to work on projects, such as 20mission, anything to keep a valid reason to work together. A project that can bring in income so that he can pay back any investors if necessary. Unfortunately, nothing has quite panned out yet so it seems the chain reaction of JRO and Alberto's projects and the theft have been too difficult to recover from.
To date, my involvement on Bitcoinrebate has been 0%. I have never touched it, and I still don't understand it. I own 0% equity and I've never taken any roles on that project. My involvement in Kronos was as described, brought in to help keep workers working, but basically things dried up for my shortly after promises were broken and I have been waiting for months now for the investment side to make working for Kronos worthwhile. I since quit Kronos as too many promises were broken, including one of being flown to SF to work at 20mission etc. My involvement in ZipConf was working with the lead developer hand in hand for the front web design only. I have never touched the backend nor do I know how it functions.
I have not learned of the financial mess (investors, how much they've invested, etc) until long after this, but I've been following JRO's lead on Bitscalper since I found out who he was, as I trusted JRO to handle the situation, and I wasn't about to make any investors lose money because I personally made a mistake. Even if he is bitscalper, calling him out publicly might make BitcoinRebate completely default and screw JRO over for example. I'd rather JRO just audit his code and remove him from the company (which is what JRO assured me he was planning).
Here comes the good part. JRO has intended on that, but Alberto has yet to give the code for review. He's never submitted it, and now he talks about JRO on the forums like JRO has screwed him over or something. I will not whitenight for JRO because he made some mistakes that are too many to mention, but let's not forget who opened the holes up in the software that got $20k stolen--- that's right, the same guy who opened holes in the software that got1000 BTC stolen in Bitscalper. We all know he's bitscalper, yet idiots like you bother me on the forum and attack JRO for trusting someone who changes his name all the time to avoid his bad reputation. JRO got suckered. Deal with it.
So despite the fact that you'd never even know to this day that he was Bitscalper without me having intervened, I'll let you continue to run your ignorant mouth, but ask you to put your money in it and bet that you're right instead, so that I can at least make some money off your ignorance and make it more tolerable. Can I go back to my life now anonymous internet person who uses someone else's referral link as his own for some creepy reason?
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Can I just bet on general confusion and strife. Like if anyone anywhere is upset, I win. Can I book this bet? In this thread?
Regardless of who wins or loses, someone will be upset. I can't take that bet.
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55.26928373 BTC 1EzdZBu6DJUqScXFbRYbTXPqTcXNAUKAxc
This is a classic ponzi scheme. Anyone who believes otherwise is completely delusional. Betting the remaining contents of my first wallet.
edit: checked full wallet contents, updated amount.
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Greetz
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I don't think he's able to pay anything back.
Better has proven established account, bet acknowledged.
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could somebody willing to proxy bets please post a public address and his rate? highly appreciated, many thanks!
I've already explained to you to do that in PM. I am also aware that numerous people have already PMed you with their offers. What's your game?
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Matthew only one main criteria as far as I'm concerned and that is that you explain publicly how you ended up working with a known and tagged scammer according to whom you were fully aware of the fact that he was actually bitscalper on the Kronos project.
I had written a long response, but then I realized that your intentions are not to uncover truth but just to troll anyway, so I'll wait till a later date when someone actually wants to know the story and can ask politely.
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