Thank you for establishing that you should also not be on the list. No one said anything about governments. We were talking about press contacts for slimey news organizations who would take something you said and make us all look like kooks. Yes, I suppose it's possible that what's in the news has an affect on laws being created, but your obsession with governments and extremist tone makes me think that you'd be a perfect person for them to interview if their intention were to discredit bitcoin as a joke.

What about Bruce Wagner? </sarcasm>

Personally, I have always understood "press contacts" to be facilitators of information between the working world and the press world. PR managers if you will. That very duty demands someone who is good at presenting things in a factual light, without emotional or financial bias of any kind. Basically, there are probably pretty few people in bitcoin suitable for the job because they're either nerds with no social skills, businessmen who only want to plug their own tools, activists who will scare everyone away, or conspiracy theorists who think that the questions being asked are "attacks on bitcoin". This is kind of why I co-started Bitcoin Magazine in the first place, to give a place where media could go to for information (although that has yet to prove itself as such).

Maybe you should have someone like Adam Back who developed hashcash be a contact, since he talked with Satoshi, understands what Satoshi was trying to do, and has both understanding in the technical topics and an ability to speak with other humans without making everything offensive.

But then there'd be no one to start new ASIC companies. 

How dare those cunts make a better offer than you. Your anonymous sockpuppet reputation is worth way more than theirs!!11

This little birdy is more like a wise owl.

Fair enough, but for the "hard of reading" I'll quote the other offers in this thread.



You're more likely to be option five in all fairness.

dank!

I tried LSD just now and you're absolutely right! I saw a vision from god and he told me that I am Jesus and that dank is the false messiah! He told me that love and happiness will only come once you get off the forums and pay back the money you stole!

It must be true because it's positive and a lamp fell over behind me without anyone touching it!!11

By you maybe. The rest of us saw it pretty clearly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167017.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169948.0

It's pretty public information that people have been given refunds in full on a regular basis for any order made up to the point they advertise "no refunds".

As for giving 10% of a refund on an order from BFL made *after* that period, I think the offer of 10% is insulting and suspicious despite BFL's drawbacks, and don't mind sharing that opinion in the thread offering it.

Say, you sound like a gent with his wits about him. I've got a dandy perpetual motion machine for sale that's sure to be right up your alley!

I don't think so, and neither do the people whom I paid as they were people who placed bets with me and won. (e.g. the scammer tag was removed because I'm not a scammer)


I couldn't see a single point in there, just baseless speculation of what you personally think happened.

Back to offering 10% of something people can get 100% for right now...

I think you just went full retard.

What scam did you commit recently? I've never scammed nor stolen from anyone. I am pretty well known for pulling giant pranks at the expense of others though (something I have no interest in doing anymore).

You might want to click the link in my signature. Or if this comment was specifically about the bet and you're not thinking people were being paid for it, this thread might be more to the point.

I wasn't aware this thread was about me, but since you ask, despite co-founding Bitcoin Magazine, DialCoin, the largest business incubator group in Bitcoin, and paying off every loan or bad investment I've made despite personal risks and discomfort, I don't have much "legitimacy" to give opinions on BFL because my expertise is not in ASIC development. My expertise is more in the area of human behavior, specifically people trying to take advantage of other people and misrepresenting themselves, which I feel the sockpuppet offer for 10% of BFL's current 100% refund is. You can continue to try shifting the focus to your criticics' credibility, or you can start responding to actual concerns. Or you can just ignore us all and paste a giant ASCII middle finger. You are anonymous afterall.


No risk? You're offering a loss of 90%, and a promise that the offer will be open when people actually need it. That sounds like a 90%~100% risk to me. As for this being "better" than a bet, don't forget that my bet was also "no risk" (and half the people already admitted they weren't planning on paying as they knew it was a prank).

That was a pretty lazy response if you ask me. When you offer people pennies on the dollar for something that they can get a dollar for on the dollar and something you've spent your entire post history decrying as a scam, it looks shady to say the least.

You pretend to promote skepticism by attacking others for not doing their due diligence in matters, but once people bring your own intentions into question your response is as predictably insincere as any other reactionary sockpuppet would be.

Your claim to righteousness based on a *future* offer has no validity, as you are offering it *now*. When the time comes that BFL has gone bankrupt and can't refund anyone for anything, is anyone supposed to believe the sockpuppet that spent his entire post history warning of BFL being a scam is going to pay anything just because he made a vague offer to do so a while back? Or is it more likely he'll just never log in again?

There are benefits to remaining anonymous-- you get to dodge responsibilities and never need to face consequences for your actions. The downside of being anonymous is, you'll never be able to argue your legitimacy when someone claims that you're just looking for sucker newbies to fleece by spreading FUD.

Can't have it both ways.

Bruno and smoothie, don't you find it odd that, even as an obvious sock puppet, OP has spent his entire time on the forums bashing BFL, now only to want to buy in? Might that be interpreted by some as an attempt to spread FUD for personal gain? I mean, I wouldn't imagine OP would do such a thing, it's probably just a misunderstanding. Surely he cares about people's well being and would never take opportunities on their misfortunes.


 

Stop it with your logic and reason already, just give the man your money.

That is my least favorite Pokémon!

Unironically, this is how all debts seem to be handled in Bitcoinland. Sockpuppets buying back at discounts.

The first or the second time?

This reminds me of the "Do me a favor for 0.01 BTC (by getting me 50,000 free XRP)" scam threads.

Spoken like a true illogical religious nutcase.