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921  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [3] countdown! on: May 17, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
Hey crabm -- sorry batman, batch 2 has now (at least begun) shipping. So we can rejoice a bit.... yeeha!

I'm going to guess there won't be a huge delay between the shipping of batches 1 and 2, but on the down side, it's going to be overall a somewhat slow process to get all of batch 1 , then batch 2, shipped.

But all good. Super stoked. And I think lateness should be well within my personal acceptable range of 1/10th of late as BFL, so I'm happy.

Sweet! Cheesy  Thanks for the update but how do you know?  Their site still says 'production' for Batch 2.

I assume you mean batches 2 & 3 above?

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[5/16/2013 9:44:37 AM] Yifu Guo [USA]: they are starting to ship out now, i expect batch three to finish some time around june
922  Other / Meta / Re: 'I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements." -Theymos on: May 17, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
I don't recognize Ripple IOUs themselves as binding agreements. Alone, a Ripple IOU is meaningless. You can obviously have separate agreements that define Ripple IOUs to mean something. It would be ridiculous for anyone to say that just because you're using Ripple IOUs, other binding agreements are invalidated.

Thank you for the more in depth response. What I meant is, is it okay for someone to promise delivery of "bitcoins" through Ripple IOU as part of *any* agreement here on the forum, with full knowledge that those people will not in fact be able to receive them (thus scamming of expected value)?
923  Economy / Speculation / Re: $1,000,000 for a Bitcoin? on: May 17, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
On one hand, if the USD tanked, anything is possible.

On the other hand, no one has mentioned technology. Why expect such a big boon to stop at bitcoin's current development team and code? Why wouldn't something better than bitcoin come along by then, fueled by the then common knowledge the developing such a solution would be profitable for the producer and participants?

Why is it everyone thinks bitcoin is the *end*? It's just the beginning.
924  Other / Meta / Re: Moderator mistake or sign of corruption and bias? on: May 17, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
It's pretty hard to misinterpret "I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements."

Yet somehow you managed to do so.

Well, when you have a moment to type a meaningful response, could you explain exactly your stance on people scamming others of expected value through Ripple IOUs, with TradeFortress' thread as an example?
925  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Banned Books in the US?? There may be at least one... on: May 17, 2013, 01:47:48 PM
The Federal Mafia

banned

But here is the pdf

Is there any truth to that book? Has anyone ever tried just declining to file or pay for taxes, and ignore the IRS when they try to investigate and collect later? How many people tried and went to federal prison?
I think Irwin Schiff is in prison for this.  To my knowledge the book isn't "banned", though.  A while back, if I recall correctly, Peter Schiff was giving copies away on some promotion.

Just spent an hour studying Wikipedia articles about the subject (even as far as reading Wesley Snipes' page). That's some sick shit. I had no idea the US was so vilifying of people who didn't file taxes. That and the illegality of gambling I've learned about in the bitcoin community makes me want to renounce my citizenship more and more everyday.

Is there a country in the world that *doesn't* throw people in jail for not wanting to pay into a broken system that starts wars?
926  Other / Meta / Re: Moderator mistake or sign of corruption and bias? on: May 17, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
Ripple IOUs them alone may not be recognized as binding agreements, but there may be a separate agreement

Theymos is the one who needs to clarify what he said, not you. It's pretty hard to misinterpret "I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements."
Obviously anything I say is my own interpolation / opinion.

Also, is this topic about "a sign of corruption and bias" or is it about theymos' interpolation?  Wink
Originally (not knowing who in fact deleted the topic), it was a topic about potential corruption and bias. Thanks for reminding me though, as the topic should be changed as the circumstances clearly have (turned out it was BadBear's personal interested to remove my comments, not Theymos').
927  Other / Meta / Re: Moderator mistake or sign of corruption and bias? on: May 17, 2013, 12:56:18 PM
Ripple IOUs them alone may not be recognized as binding agreements, but there may be a separate agreement

Theymos is the one who needs to clarify what he said, not you. It's pretty hard to misinterpret "I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements."

This is absolutely absurd to me why someone would not get a scammer tag for promising value over a medium they knowingly have no intention of paying through. In your case, we all know it was a prank (many knew my pranks were pranks as well), but many might not have. For those few, I think it's is Theymos' duty (as well as other moderators) to stick with the principle of being anti-deception in general, not selective as Theymos' statement clearly paints.

A good start to that would be a simple and clear response from Theymos, not having your responses deleted by moderators seconds after making them.
928  Other / Meta / Re: Moderator mistake or sign of corruption and bias? on: May 17, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
I think it would be relevant, but there's an obvious response (which I've replied):

It's not even about your particular (completely inappropriate) prank, it's about Theymos' criteria for scammer tags and his exact wording:

"I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements." -Theymos

What he's actually saying is, "I'm okay with any kind of fraud and scam so long as the transfers only happen inside Ripple as IOUs".

There's already a dozen threads about your scammer case, try to keep it there. Not everything needs to be about you.

Please refrain from posting off-topic in this thread BadBear. I'm sorry that my bet hurt you and lessened your opinion of me. This has nothing to do with that. We're talking about the ridiculous thing Theymos said, which basically equated to "I will choose to ignore any fraud that happens so long as the scammer utilizes the Ripple IOU system".
929  Other / Meta / 'I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements." -Theymos on: May 17, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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I don't recognize Ripple IOUs as binding agreements.

Say what? So if I would have told people I bet about Pirate that I would have paid them on Ripple instead, I wouldn't have had a scammer tag and it would have been "okay"?

Talk about censorship and corruption. This is a legitimate question with a very legitimate (and appropriate) example as reference, that deserves a legitimate answer.

A) Why is it being deleted by moderators?
B) Why is it not being answered?

EDIT: Apparently it was BadBear judging by this message.

I deleted your post. If you want to discuss your scammer case and how it's somehow relevant then make a separate thread about it, don't derail threads over it.  

The problem I have is he also sent this message earlier:

I split your off topic derail, I have a much lower tolerance for your bullshit this time around. Keep it on topic in the future, I'm not going to waste a lot of my time splitting threads or deleting posts because of you, my time is better spent elsewhere.

And made this post about me publicly at an earlier time as well:

I don't trust many people but there's very few people I actively distrust, and he's top of that list now.
930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] KoreaCoin on: May 17, 2013, 11:00:49 AM
Backed by Kimbab and national embarrassment
931  Economy / Auctions / Re: 4 BTC debt of TradeFortress (Ripple IOUs) on: May 17, 2013, 09:12:24 AM
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932  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin ASCII character proposal on: May 17, 2013, 08:32:39 AM
What you're looking for is ISO 4217 (unicode, not "ascii") and here is a short list of people before you:
WTF are you talking about?
ISO 4217 is about currency codes
Unicode and ASCII are charsets

Sorry, was confused about what OP was actually asking. He needs to get Unicode (not ISO) to accept the symbol basically. There are dozens of thread about that already as well.
933  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin ASCII character proposal on: May 17, 2013, 08:14:09 AM
What you're looking for is ISO 4217 (unicode, not "ascii") and here is a short list of people before you:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29061.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151843.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135724.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149150.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7205.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123600.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179881.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1446.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127604.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148229.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149634.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123607.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25102.0
934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [3] countdown! on: May 17, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
Sorry I have to summon one of my favorite forum creatures




He reminds me of my favorite super hero growing up.

935  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon batch [3] countdown! on: May 17, 2013, 08:00:18 AM
that 30% diff jump was scary.

The hashrate drop makes me think ..... What if this isn't variance but alot of Avalons now getting packed for shipment..!!! B2&B3? Just guessing.... Cheesy Wink

This was actually mentioned by someone else in a different thread. Something about a few THs dropping off the network suddenly.
936  Economy / Reputation / Re: My reputation thread on: May 17, 2013, 07:28:53 AM
Didn't this user already claim his account was hacked after backing up "anyroll" saying that he was paid in his scam?

i got hacked and hacker sent out the message.
How did you get hacked and when? Did you create this thread or the hacker?
937  Local / 한국어 (Korean) / Avalon 85Ghs (4 module + PSU) 이윤 분배를 팝니다 on: May 17, 2013, 06:33:43 AM
1인당 1%부터 16%까지 살수있고, 1%마다 25만원에 팔겠습니다.
Avalon 을 제가 안전하게 관리하여 나오는 이윤의 비율에 따라 보내겠습니다.
*Avalon 에서 채굴기계는 품절되어 이제 살수 없습니다. 제 채굴기계는 6월까지 오기로 예정되어있습니다.*
http://launch.avalon-asics.com/

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[5/16/2013 9:44:37 AM] Yifu Guo [USA]: they are starting to ship out now, i expect batch three to finish some time around june


이 사진은 채굴기계와 그 개발자인 Yifu에 대한것입니다.

아래의 링크는 제 Avalon의 구매자들에 대한것입니다.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165105

아래의 링크는 현재 이윤분배 상황에 대한것입니다.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajtx05YrHtIydDdwWU1RX250Nzg0QUZpdFpINnFJVEE

원래 Bitcoin 으로 Avalon 의 비율을 파는 사람들이 많지만
저는 한국에 살고있으므로 더 편하게 Bitcoin 보다 한국돈으로 받겠습니다.

관심있으신 분은 쪽지를 보내주세요.
감사합니다.
 
938  Economy / Reputation / Re: My reputation thread on: May 17, 2013, 05:54:18 AM
Didn't this user already claim his account was hacked after backing up "anyroll" saying that he was paid in his scam?
939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Banned Books in the US?? There may be at least one... on: May 17, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
The Federal Mafia

banned

But here is the pdf

Is there any truth to that book? Has anyone ever tried just declining to file or pay for taxes, and ignore the IRS when they try to investigate and collect later? How many people tried and went to federal prison?
940  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Job Opportunities at Sinful Robot, creator of world's first virtual reality sex on: May 15, 2013, 11:27:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSVYgcy24Q

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