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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: In the long run, bitcoin will be worth $0. on: April 26, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
My point is that they cannot talk about it without also talking about bitcoin.

True.dat

The only way some other cryptocurrency will overtake bitcoins is if it brought something new, so you would not have to compare it to bitcoins. Why get a copy when you can just use the original?

Why get silver when you can just get gold? Why get a Honda when you can just get a Ford? Why get a double-cheeseburger when you can get just a cheeseburger?

I take it by your generalizations that you either A) don't understand the differences between Bitcoin or Litecoin; or B) you understand them better than I, have come to the conclusion that they don't matter, but refuse to explain why in any sort of detail.
1142  Economy / Speculation / Re: In the long run, bitcoin will be worth $0. on: April 26, 2013, 03:53:40 PM
It is just like bitcoin

"..except it's an offshoot that uses a different method of mining than bitcoin (scrypt) that has it's own advantages and disadvantages."

Seems like a pretty sound explanation to me. Why wouldn't they just be able to say that?
1143  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc on: April 26, 2013, 03:33:16 PM
why the hell does he use his real name ? Or you guys suspect its fake as well ?
He's a no-talent scammer who has basically just remained unnoticed until now. Remember Bruce Wagner? He just *had* to get involved in media. This cockwit Ed Trice just *had* to get involved in bitcoin. He will regret the day he ever heard of bitcoin.
1144  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to make the most out of the speculation subforum on: April 26, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Yay for censorship! Close your eyes and it all goes away! </sarcasm>

Do you also eat shit because you don't choose to not eat it, Matthew? Nah, didn't think so.

If one reaches the reasoned conclusion that some people are on here just to spread FUD, and that they have shown to have nothing at all to contribute to one's understanding, then one is very much in one's right to ignore the shit out of them!

Censorship is when someone else tells one whose opinions one can or cannot read.

It was said mostly in jest. I'm all for low noise to signal ratio (through moderation). I've never put anyone on ignore though, I think needing to put people on ignore has always reflected on people's emotional maturity.

Perhaps, or on how busy they are and how much spare time they have to devote to things like silly online fora.

It's reasonable to assume that not everyone has as much time as me. Smiley
1145  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to make the most out of the speculation subforum on: April 26, 2013, 03:09:47 PM
Yay for censorship! Close your eyes and it all goes away! </sarcasm>

Do you also eat shit because you don't choose to not eat it, Matthew? Nah, didn't think so.

If one reaches the reasoned conclusion that some people are on here just to spread FUD, and that they have shown to have nothing at all to contribute to one's understanding, then one is very much in one's right to ignore the shit out of them!

Censorship is when someone else tells one whose opinions one can or cannot read.

It was said mostly in jest. I'm all for low noise to signal ratio (through moderation). I've never put anyone on ignore though, I think needing to put people on ignore has always reflected on people's emotional maturity.
1146  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc on: April 26, 2013, 03:07:09 PM
Yup  Roll Eyes


It's painfully obvious this guy has gotten by with his fraud for so long because people haven't noticed him. Congratulations Ed! You've been discovered!

You know what it's like having a TV special about sociopathic scammers, starring you? To be reported to every newspaper in your district? To have law enforcement pushing judges for warrants for your arrest?

Your life is about to get hilarious (for the rest of us).
1147  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc on: April 26, 2013, 02:57:10 PM
*** Be warned, we are officially entering the Twilight Zone, the Mothership has beamed him up ***

This is an LNO Executive Summary Ed faked up to try and gather funds.

Check out the names he is listing Smiley





ROFL. He is claiming that Steve Wozniac of Apple is a spokesperson for him?

1148  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to make the most out of the speculation subforum on: April 26, 2013, 10:12:28 AM
Yay for censorship! Close your eyes and it all goes away! </sarcasm>
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: In the long run, bitcoin will be worth $0. on: April 26, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
OP is sorta right in the same as saying the dollar will be worthless in the long run as it will be replaced at some point in time....

so yes... but that doesn't make bitcoin worthless now or anytime soon... "soon" is to be defined...



This. Believing Bitcoin will *always* be worth something is a fairy tale, just as much as believing it will be worth nothing tomorrow because of pressure from law enforcement.
1150  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc on: April 26, 2013, 09:58:30 AM

hi phinnaeus,

that s odd,this guys is claiming not to be part of this,he s still posting in his linkedin about this

he needs to clarify things here

thanks for finding it


Just link him to this thread.
1151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Matonis replaced with Bitcon Mag on: April 26, 2013, 07:45:53 AM
If you feel your friend can contribute in a positive way to this project, then tell him to send me a PM.

No offense, but why would you need him to PM you, why can't you just agree to let him lead right now?

Is it because you want to vet the people involved to ensure that the quality is of the utmost and want to limit exposure of people who would otherwise make the project look bad? (A very sane argument)
1152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Matonis replaced with Bitcon Mag on: April 26, 2013, 07:45:12 AM
Ask yourself: What is the basis for that authority?

The same as the government-- people with money promoting it, people without money not caring enough to speak up?
1153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 07:43:52 AM
No offense to Charlie (I too started a very popular bitcoin foundation 2 years ago that he was a member in, so I can't say much), this is the part that I just can't get over no matter how hard I try:

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Industry Members (Platinum) 10,000BTC per annum
1154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Matonis replaced with Bitcon Mag on: April 26, 2013, 07:37:30 AM
My goal is to just open a door for anyone who wants to come in and let them make their own decisions. That's the freedom, we deserve.

I know a guy named dank who would love to join your group and take a leading role in the promotional work. He is very...creative. Will you let him do whatever he wants to prove you're different?  Smiley
1155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? on: April 26, 2013, 07:34:35 AM
According to Charlie Shrem on Skype:

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[2/9/2013 4:44:25 AM] Charlie Shrem: The key of the foundation and why I started it is to Promote and protect

Can't help you much more than that.
1156  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAMMER: Cablepair (Tom) from BTCFPGA.com/bitcoinasic.net on: April 26, 2013, 06:55:11 AM
Hi @ all

I've just got a my full refund.
So Tom IS NOT a Scammer!

Best

Many scammers are caught by law enforcement, given judgements of large amounts of money, and forced to pay by the courts. Are they no longer scammers because they paid? Are murderers no longer murderers because they served jail time?
1157  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD/SCAM ALERT ED TRICE, Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking Inc on: April 26, 2013, 06:53:47 AM
(Remove the "ajax=ajax" from Bruno's link to make it more readable (http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?seeMore=&split_page=5&type=member&item=131832294&gid=86999)

I love how he claims things are "stolen" when he's probably the one stealing them and trying to commit insurance fraud.

Anyone with a LinkedIn account want to start posting his history and current scams there too? I don't use LinkedIn because I think it's retarded. So is Twitter. Sorry.
1158  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much did you invest? on: April 26, 2013, 06:50:14 AM
I invested my life for the past 2 years and have only worked in bitcoin businesses, living off of and paying debts *only* with bitcoins I earned from work I have done inside of Bitcoin. I don't see that option though.
1159  Other / Off-topic / Re: You know what I find the most disturbing about the bitcoin community? on: April 26, 2013, 06:48:34 AM
It is highly impractical to spend gold to buy things.
Well, I guess that explains why it was used as the world's currency for thousands of years. Thank GOD, fiat came along and fixed that horrible situation.
Matt, I like you, but try not to speak out of your ass.

If you really me, help me to understand by using logical facts. I'm not going to be a dick and quite the dictionart for what "practical" means, but I'll say that your response didn't change my opinion whatsoever. I didn't say it's useless (I use it daily). I said it's impractical for various reasons still and I didn't get a counter argument to that yet, so I have no reason to assume my logic is flawed yet.
You implied that the reason bitcoin is impractical is the fact that it's essentially a digital commodity, not it's admittedly manifold other issues. Commodity money has historically been the only sound money. The primary impracticality with bitcoin is it's volatility. I feel that will taper off with time. Patience, Daniel-san. It's not, nor has it ever been impractical to buy things with gold. Eventually, it will not be impractical to buy things with Bitcoin.

Ah, so basically we're on the same page then, I was just focusing on the wrong point. Okay, then even though I still think it's impractical to carry around gold, I will remove that as one of my arguments and focus on volatility, requirement for "mining", ease of price manipulation, multiple major points of social failure (mtGox, Github, etc) instead. hehe.
1160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SUSPENDED] Anon136 orderbook + escrow (real exchange coming very soon) on: April 26, 2013, 05:57:42 AM
Ah, this is why Ditto has been so busy lately.  Smiley
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