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2581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annotating the blockchain on: August 10, 2011, 02:12:47 AM
It is a common misunderstanding of Libertarianism that you get to to do whatever you want to do exactly they way you want to do it. In fact, other people also get to to do whatever they want to do to the same extent, and if that includes revealing information that you would prefer to keep private, that's tough.

also, if something's been submitted to my site, there's a good chance it was already public information beforehand. (just like the above 2 example links I gave).
2582  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Make me laugh for a bitcent on: August 09, 2011, 11:38:06 PM
Two guys are sitting on a bar stool.

how did they achieve that?


2583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annotating the blockchain on: August 09, 2011, 10:49:47 PM
I'm attempting to build such a tool (gradually as I get time) in bitnot.es (http://bitnot.es)

i'm submitting more and more addresses as I find them each day (examples: http://bitnot.es/a/1vc3ZU4ae2cF6ZxqE44j5Ak3wfsZqybtb and http://bitnot.es/a/19QkqAza7BHFTuoz9N8UQkryP4E9jHo4N3) and hope others do too.

i think if it's built up it will make a good detective tool later. and for that purpose, i plan to add search features to it, so you don't need to know an address, you can just search for 'mybitcoin' for example and find any addresses/blocks/transactions that have been tagged as such.

lots of work left to do obviously, i've only just built the site a few days ago.

That looks very nice ; do you plan to implement the features that I described ?
 1. make comments private : user can comment an address only if they have the private key corresponding to that address
 2. the website should flag stolen coins, based on police reports sent by victims
 3. a search engine that checks if bitcoins received on a given address have been reported as stolen in the blockchain. This engine should return the list of addresses between me and the victim, and allow me to contact the victim
 4. a simple API, so that I can query the search engine without a browser

(note: in order to do 1, the user will need to sign their comment with their private key. This is not possible with the current version of the client; but it should be added in the future)


1. yeah that was sort of the idea i was going for in a thread entitled "encrypt/decrypt arbitrary text using bitcoin keys?" however i'm still not sure how that exact idea will be workable. I definitely do plan to make some notes private though (as an option for the submitter).

2. in addition to a straight tagging system, i could indeed implement other tick-boxes for the submitter, such as 'stolen'.

3. while i don't understand the detail of this question, i would think the search options would be continually expanded. i'm actually wondering about the possibility of basing the site off a heavily modified forum software instead of the current code, with each address/transaction/block basically recorded as a thread.

4. API will come with time too... not just for queries but i think there will be some cases where an API for submissions would be good. eg. every time a merchant generates a new address, they could voluntarily tag it and submit it to bit notes. ***i know this goes against most people's love of 'anonymous' bitcoin, but it will of course be voluntary, and it'd be up to users to decide whether they use a site which automatically submits notes.***

2584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Annotating the blockchain on: August 09, 2011, 05:56:32 PM
The recent allinvain and mybitcoin thefts have been terrible news, and the latter has strongly eroded confidence in Bitcoin. In addition, the SEPA bank accounts of at least two exchanges have been closed, not because banks are trying to destroy bitcoin, but because they are concerned by money laundering. I think we should try to stop this as soon as possible, before it gets too bad. We need to build collective tools that would allow us to detect and prevent laundering.

What I have in mind is an improved version of the blockexplorer website, where users would have the possibility to annotate their own transactions. Users would be allowed to annotate an address or transaction only if they can sign their message with the private key corresponding to the bitcoin address they want to annotate.

The site would allow users to report a transaction as fraudulent. In order to prevent abuses, a police report would be requested by the operator of the website in order to flag a transaction as fraud. Then, the website would allow all users to check if the bitcoins they receive have been involved in a fraudulent transaction. This could take the form of a webpage where users upload a list of bitcoin addresses, or it could be integrated directly to the bitcoin client with an API. A user receiving a positive answer could get in touch with the person who reported the theft, and the police would be able to start an investigation of the chain of intermediaries.

If such a tool was available, it would be easy for exchanges to detect and report thieves cashing out, because they know their real identities. If an exchange was unwilling to do so, its users would know quickly, because they would receive dirty money directly from that exchange.

What do you think ? If we, as a community, were able to unmask a bitcoin thief, I think the current lack of confidence could be reversed.

I'm attempting to build such a tool (gradually as I get time) in bitnot.es (http://bitnot.es)

i'm submitting more and more addresses as I find them each day (examples: http://bitnot.es/a/1vc3ZU4ae2cF6ZxqE44j5Ak3wfsZqybtb and http://bitnot.es/a/19QkqAza7BHFTuoz9N8UQkryP4E9jHo4N3) and hope others do too.

i think if it's built up it will make a good detective tool later. and for that purpose, i plan to add search features to it, so you don't need to know an address, you can just search for 'mybitcoin' for example and find any addresses/blocks/transactions that have been tagged as such.

lots of work left to do obviously, i've only just built the site a few days ago.

for more info, please see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35178.msg437346#msg437346
2585  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Just Cost me $180 in the time it took to log in. on: August 09, 2011, 02:09:39 PM
if you really wanted to sell at $12, you could have put in an order yesterday.

 I dare say my hindsight is as powerful as yours Smiley Who knew what it was going to today. The point is - you should be able to log into that site at any time in under a minute, not 10-15 like it took to log in + add a trade

hindsight tells me that yesterday one would have been more inclined to sell for $12, not less inclined.

...but i get your point about the slow site... i hope they can upgrade soon.
2586  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best escrow service on: August 09, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
submitted a review but forgot to rate 'Merchant Communication'... that's pretty much 5-star too... thanks.
2587  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best escrow service on: August 09, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
i can vouch for btcrow having used it a couple of times, however bitcoinfeedback.com seems like a p.i.t.a so i've left no official review of btcrow anywhere (until this post).

i can't vouch for the dispute process yet though as all of my deals have gone smoothly so far.
2588  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Just Cost me $180 in the time it took to log in. on: August 09, 2011, 01:44:07 PM
if you really wanted to sell at $12, you could have put in an order yesterday.
2589  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
Somebody with coins and cash is obviously testing this market. A bit funny that so many of you scream illegal activity when market was selling off and now when it popped on no news or anything, none of you is questioning where all this cash is from.

Whole btc/usd market is in the hands of a few, either its early adopters or some group/individual with cash. Everyone else is playing with lunch money. For this rally to get wings it needs to take out $16.50. Personally I don't think running this market up is their idea right now. Feels like testing to me.

could just be competition between two cashed up buyers... as vladimir says a 'bidding war'... never know when the other guy is about to buy so you have to try to get in before him.
2590  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the Monday rally? on: August 09, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Rallyin’, rallyin’ (Yeah)
Rallyin’, rallyin’ (Yeah)
Gox, gox, gox, gox
Lookin’ forward to the weekend
2591  Economy / Speculation / Re: When the media declares Bitcoins’ death … on: August 09, 2011, 12:59:20 PM

i scanned the top of this one and thought "okay it's not another B.S. piece by tim lee, so i'll give this author a chance"... then halfway through his article i discover he's basically just quoting lee anyway.
2592  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:57:25 PM
tried to buy back my 12 btc at $10 but missed it by one or two cents... should have tried for $10.02 Cheesy
2593  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where is the Monday rally? on: August 09, 2011, 12:51:35 PM
Rebecca Black says the rally is on Friday.  Friday, Friday.

hahahaha that's the day after thursday.
2594  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:45:55 PM

If I purchase something on my credit card the other end gets confirmation within seconds no matter where they are.

Bitcoin displays the same slow speed whether you're transferring money to your next door neighbour or the other side of the planet.  At least it doesn't discriminate, I guess.

That is wrong, your money would actually get charged in several days up to couple of weeks. The intermediary system (Visa) lends some money to the store you are paying at, basically taking the risk that you don't have this money. A similar system for bitcoins is trivial to implement.

...and absolute confirmation for the receiver doesn't really come for 6 months or more in some cases.
2595  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:37:45 PM
How can Bitcoin be used as a currency if price keeps changing dramatically every time?

how can USD be used as a currency if the price (relative to BTC) keeps changing so dramatically? Cheesy
2596  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:34:44 PM
Bitcoin's not very useful if you need to do anything in less than a few hours.

and wiring money OS is?
2597  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
sold 2 more btc at $12... would be fun to be able to play with $100k USD like someone obviously is right now.
2598  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
sold a tiny amount (10 btc) for $11 each... let's see how high it goes.
2599  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: August 09, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
I am  wondering how long will it last.

i am suddenly thinking the same thing about this new RALLY thread Smiley
2600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Someone just bought a shit load of BTC on MtGox on: August 09, 2011, 12:22:06 PM
Now over $10. 30% increase in 12 hours. At least my kids will have some food today, poor little wretches haven;t eaten for 3 days (I should really get a real job)

hahaha i can relate.
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