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"70% distributed to RPC
20% to BTS (required for full BitShare community support because they have historically supported every coin which has honored this percentage) which would be 10%PTS (original DPOS supporters through mining), and 10%AGS (original DPOS supporters through investing).
10% BTC (the Bitcoin connection will guarantee quicker adoption of your coin because Max Keiser would already be a part owner of the first ever deflationary cryptocurrency controlled by the owners, and not a central mining cartel)"
That seems a good idea.
Ron Paul > Rand Paul imho - I would ditch the Rand Paul concept and make it Ron Paul 3.0 instead, Ron Paul BTS, whatever... It would be far more popular.
Ron Paul is a legend in the Libertarian circles while Rand Paul is far more controversial. In essence, Rand Paul is a far weaker brand to go with. To be extremely practical, the greatest risk of a celebrity coin is that the celebrity screws something up and damages the brand. Which Rand Paul could easily do, high risk to use for it. Ron Paul is well known and not likely to screw anything up at this point, for people that already love and respect him anyway.
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The name/branding is very important as it is. Over time it should get lots of free press, and that is not to be underestimated. Wal-Mart won't accept it, who cares? |
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interestign project but all FUD lately.. dont know what to believe
Just believe there is always a motive for the FUD, as there is. When they are trying too hard usually it isn't because they care so much about protecting innocent newbies from losing Bitcoin. - Just look at who posted the most, check their twitter accounts, see what they are posting about there and figure it out. It isn't rocket science. You do have to decide if you believe in the FUD or not for yourself. People hold competing coins and have their reasons, that are extremely obvious. So it really comes down to if you think they will burn the extra tokens for BLOCKNET and develop the platform into a serious competitor, or if you believe it is all a giant trap, and FUDsters holding competing coins are doing it out of the goodness of their heart. Oh, I hold their coin as well, so I am hardly biased against them, just annoyed with the BS on Bitcointalk. |
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The only thing I would add in defense of anyone, it doesn't matter who you follow on twitter. I follow every crypto related person I can on twitter. Nothing to do with believing in them or trusting them. I like to know what they are up to or pretending to be up to.
Good interview by Dan, guess we will see how this all plays out now.
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The devs fucked us hard by cooperating with gekko
Says the guy kissing Gekko's ass. Dev did nothing wrong in acquiring funds from investors to help develop the coin, without investors we wouldn't have the funding for in wallet games and devs already spent their own money to purchase servers for the multipool and games and if you didn't know, servers are not cheap. I do hope the multipool comes out soon but of course a multipool is no easy task and takes a lot of time to code and set up. I think if participating Blocknet coins could work together and share their technology with one another then it would make the relationship between coins stronger. It's cool to see participating coins coming to APEX thread to voice their support for APEX. For whatever it is worth I am on the team for Horizon and I like APEX, I bought a bunch quite a bit higher and it is what it is, prices have not been doing with with BLOCKNET, but the FUD has been strong. We have a really great team and some amazing things coming for Horizon and are very serious about being highly competitive. As things go I can't leak anything, but in theory we could cooperate and rise together. Hopefully! Not selling at a loss anyway, heh. |
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I wanted to make a clear and concise statement about all of this mud slinging going around.... As everybody involved with XC's knows I did numerous freelance projects, some of which Prometheus was involved in, like KeyOS and Halc. Yesterday I was so frustrated with everything that was ALREADY PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE [stated on twitter and in the XC OP/ANN] being portrayed as some type of scam.. Accusing me of being Prometheus, accusing me of being the dev. of numerous coins and half the coins in blocknet...that I simply answered no to any and all questions. None of these allegations are true, I am DAN METCALF and I have never used any other account than ATCSECURE on this forum. Nor did I ever participate into any scam's, nor would I ever... the comments about XC's POW being stopped because I was paid off is a complete fabrication. What I find most interesting about this amount of FUD is that all the information was already public, and to think that I have all these alias's on this forum is complete insanity. My full statement on the matter can be viewed at http://www.atcsecure.com/blog/Official_Statement.pdfAlso blocknet's assets and funds will be held in escrow and released as development progress's. Blocknet is not a scam, but a legitimate project and proof of concept code will be available shortly. Sincerely, Dan Metcalf Thank you Dan. |
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I think that all this FAILED FUD campaign against the block-net ITO and the XC team is really showing off for what it really is with the appearence of compleatly idiotic threads like this one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=842860.msg9403449#msg9403449We are dealing with real kids playing the gangster game that switched from mommy weekly pay to the fudsters groups 0.50 BTC pay per week. Anyway this have brought lot of new eyes into both projects. This can be used wisely as free advertising if we deliver the tech in the right moment and we nail down the official announcement and press release about all this situation. The FUD can be used to our advantage as it is mostly coming from the shadows and competitors. People that are offering less and don't want this to succeed. They are hiding their identities for a reason. Yet, they have worked hard to get lots of attention on the project, and that can actually be a positive if managed right. What is important is the technology itself as a long term investment, potentially, and really, whomever has the skills can code it. The branding is very good, and the general marketing outside of Bitcointalk is also very good. What matters from here I think is having people with real identities on the Blocknet foundation, people that have solid backgrounds that overall people will trust. Along with the solid coders already behind it. Then escrows in place, so even then, you don't have to trust those personal reputations alone. All the FUD could then be a positive compared to other some options backed by just anonymous people. It could be a great thing for bloggers to write about, trust, reputation, technology, and obviously, drama! I think we should go for the win here rather than worry about the price the second the ITO ends. Why not? |
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Spoetnik will FUD everything that has no POW
I am a miner as well as a trader and POW is just as FUBAR as POS. People can rent massive hashing power, or own it, and they do, and it isn't any more fair that ITOs or people buying POS coins. This isn't about mining BTC with laptops anymore and no distribution system is totally fair. POW and POS both have real advantages and disadvantages. I don't really make much with mining anymore, more of a hobby compared to just trading, but I like having POW options and POS options. /shrug -- ITOs are ok as long as we have solid trust systems in place, not just reputations, solid escrows we can all believe in. |
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Oh and i forgot to add one thing: saying "great post, you are totally right, something needs to happen." in this thread isn't going to solve anything, it's the actions that you take outside this confined space that will.  Kind regards Andreas Well, I asked for the same stuff in private. I think some type of clarity will be coming and I am waiting for it. |
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How about you guys stop wasting time on back and forth discussion with random people all over the altcoin board and instead set up a strategy to deal with this situation on a broader and more structural way? A good way to deal with this is to create an official press release on the issue, provide a full and undeniable explanation that is independently verifiable, and push it to the official website of blocknet, all coins involved AND as much big newsnetworks as you can get interested in running the story. See this as an opportunity to once and for all set the record straight and gain press time while you are at it. I've said this once and i'm gonna say this again: In a decentralized environment, you prove your honesty and integrity by providing everyone with the tools and proof to make up their own mind and decide for themselves. Discussing the issue on a 1 to 1 basis with everyone who has any doubt is an terribly inefficient way to do things, and stating that you will not give the so called 'FUD' (which is a bogus term if you ask me) any credibility by refusing to interact with it is about the worst possible reaction to the problem I can think off. Think about it this way: what you are trying here is to reassure people who are uncertain about the project and are expressing their doubts about the future of blocknet. You are also trying to convince the people that might be interested to invest but are afraid to do so in light of recent events. How do you best convince the broad public to set aside those negative feelings? Not by answering the rage thread of every single user with a 50% explanation, also not by refusing to comment. You take the high ground, request the digital equivalent of a megaphone and hold a complete and explanatory speech to the masses. On the internet this means making a complete press release and spreading it trough every channel possible (coincourant, cointelegraph, coindesk, twitter, youtube,...). Lets go back to the metaphor of a square filled with huge mob. Right now you are standing in a corner, arguing with one or two disgruntled people who are legitimately concerned about your credibility. Around this small scene are about ten other people who are watching and are making up their minds about this ridiculous scene without getting involved themselves. The more you try to explain yourself to those two disgruntled people, the more those bystanders are thinking this is a ridiculous scene, and the more they are beginning to distance themselves from the situation, telling others who have never heard about it how idiotic it is. While you are addressing those two hotheads, slowly the entire square starts to hear wispers and rumours about "that one dude in the corner that allegedly did something bad". And weather you like it or not, gossip doesn't give a rats ass about truth, it just wants to be sensational. Now you can do two things: either stay in that corner, arguing with those hotheads until one of them loses their temper and gives you a hit in the face, or you can break free from that unproductive situation, run over to the highest point of the square, grab a megaphone and start broadcasting the facts about the situation as loud as you can. Presenting irrefutable evidence that proves your point, as well as talking about what the steps forward are, how you are gonna make your stuff even more awesome and what you will do to avoid confusion in the future. This is what happens in that scenario. The two readheads will keep shouting and screaming, but frankly you don't have to give a fuck because the 10 people that stood behind them are now paying attention and listening to you, making up their minds about the situation from the presented facts. The further the story develops, the more people on the square will start to flock to this interesting new thing that is happening. People that may never have heard about this might start to pay attention, and frankly you don't care anymore about the two angry dudes that have now ran off, because you have an audience that cares enough to listen. At the end of the day: you lost 2 guys, gave 10 others enough information to make a decision and introduced everyone else on the square to your project. Mass psychology. Get out there, stop arguing and prove everything you are saying in here in one press release that doesn't require a reader to have any prior knowledge of the situation to come to a verdict. And frankly: If you are afraid to do this, if you think it has a chance to backfire, if you think it "doesn't currently fit in our media strategy" or something likewise: you are heading in the wrong direction with your project and the two guys that cornered you on the square were 100% right to corner you and start complaining. Some facts: - If you can't inspire trust, your decentralized project is going nowhere. - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt are legit feelings an investor can express. FUD is a bogus term that is used by people unable to adress concerns - Decentralized due diligence, active open accounting, Regular newsupdates and transparency are the only way forward in the crypto world - The only thing the few people that have doubts in your project can do is NOT USE IT. The only thing 7 billion other people on the planet can decide to do is to USE IT, but only after they KNOW IT EXIST. - Don't fail to understand that you are not trying to convince everyone to use your project, you are trying to find the people that WANT to use it. Watch this video to understand what i mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw28y81s7WoOh and just on a completely honest personal note: I believe in the project, i also had the intention to invest a bit in it, but i waited to do so because an investor always wants to have as much info as possible before investing, so it's wise to buy as late as possible. At the moment my advice to oneself is to NOT invest, and this is completely legit for me to decide that, just as it is completely legit for everyone else to decide that. It's up to you guys to convince me to rethink and join in anyway, and if you can't do that, it's up to you guys to completely and utterly ignore me, forget that i even exist and find the people on the internet that ARE willing to invest and join the adventure/cause. If you guys manage to get this situation on track again i'll happily put my money where my mouth is and join in as well. At the moment you guys are doing a rather poor job on some of the key components of making this happen: 1. Reaching out to a broader audience: nope, no website, no media strategy, no marketing. 2. Setting the record straight with irrefutable facts: they might be in here somewhere, but i don't plan on reading 100+ pages 3. Ignoring the hotheads and talking to the community: please i don't even know who gains from those discussions. / Devils advocate. Brutaly honnest again because it needs to happen. Brutaly honnest again not because i want to see this project fail but because i want to see it succeed. Brutally honnest again because that is what works in a decentralized community and because top down control and obscurity is exactly what we don't need right now. Kind regards Hoping to invest soon Bytas I agree 100% - Great post. |
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10m coins at 25k sats = 2,500 btc.
Too expensive, it can't even be pump'd to 20%. No room to grow or even make money, sad.
Plenty of room, 2,500 BTC would make roughly a market of $825k, that nothing if we consider blocknet would reach top 10 and if it delivers it can reach top 10 and that would mean x10 at least. I agree, and what is needed as others have mentioned is total transparency with the funding. It can be lump dev payouts over time, or whatever, but people need real TRUST to combat the FUD. We need this before the ITO is finished, as apparently BLOCKNET is challenging big players and not everyone is going to play fair. As this appears to be what will be happening I am happy with that, as that should make BLOCKNET very strong in the end despite the FUD right now. I am helping out a little with Horizon, not a part of BLOCKNET at all. As I am part of Horizon I really think this is important for our own platform, BLOCKNET, and all the other participating coins. We have to be far more transparent than the other options and provide better technology along with the marketing. Trust and transparency is essential, and not optional in my humble opinion. Thanks! |
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Amusing how some of the same FUD is in the VRC thread. I think this is just stolen coins being dumped by the Moolah scammer. The drop is just stolen coins being dumped, imho, and then Copy/Paste fud from competitors and random people blaming devs for things out of their control. I will enjoy the epic rise later.
Notice XC and VRC dumped hard, and just happened to be a couple of the highest volume coins on Mintpal? Bargain prices I say. If I am right and this later comes to light, all confidence will be restored and the price will rise.
Surely some TA guys can chart the dumps and notice this? It is the only thing that logically fits to me. Whales don't just panic dump for a loss, they are not fools. Someone that steals coins doesn't care.
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Amusing how some of the same FUD is in the XC thread. I think this is just stolen coins being dumped by the Moolah scammer. Increasing my stake in VRC as I am not a fool, this is very cheap. The drop is just stolen coins being dumped, imho, and then Copy/Paste fud from competitors and random people blaming devs for things out of their control. I will enjoy the epic rise later. |
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If the FUD gets any stronger I might just buy more. (lol)
I personally stay diversified in coins with active development and don't really day trade much, just hold for the long haul and do pretty well with it. BTC is currently taking a hit and nobody is happy about most Alts going down, and I don't have a huge stake in XC, but if BLOCKNET is a success then XC should get a nice bump.
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If it happens it will be just through normal growth and popularity. So far people seem to love it, 4.6 average rating, and the first 100k people get 2500 free coins, so that should eventually get a lot of users in.
I am big into cryptos and privacy, so I have already replaced my normal texting apps. It is good to be realistic about the odds of becoming a 19 billion dollar company, but then again, they made the app, people love it, so it isn't impossible.
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Hi, I am the founder of the Cryptocurrency Collectors Club, we have 3550 members, and are traders, investors, miners, developers. Checkcoin CKC is actually one of my picks and a coin I hold for the long term. As I am also a business owner I see a real angle and some real potential here. Feel free to join and promote Checkcoin, I own some, so I have no problem with that. https://www.facebook.com/groups/459085124197658/ |
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If BlockNet does well like BitSwift, that will be almost 10 million tokens bought almost entirely with participating coins. What will that do to the prices of the participating coins?
Assuming all goes well, take some from the supply into control of those with an interest in seeing those coins going up along with BLOCKNET itself. Holding and staking my APEX. (And NHZ and XC) |
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I am holding CKC for the long haul, one of my favorites. I think there is a lot of potential here.
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You should at least be honest - the fact that You removed this prediction does not mean it was not there before. Anyway, I can´t see any benefit in blocknet, as there already are few other players, including sidechains, which probably win. Be "honest"? Are you nuts? 1) With regard to questions that have nothing to do with this 900% gains stuff, I referred McHammer to the *current* FAQ. This has nothing to do with the content of previous FAQs. 2) In the one question where McHammer did refer to 900% gains I requoted my public apology for previously including that paragraph. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9335337#msg9335337. I'm not hiding anything. I'm being open about it. If you can't see any benefit to the Blocknet, you've probably not seen what the Blocknet actually is, having been blinded by your preconceptions. Sidechains are not an "internet of Blockchains." They're not even a decentralised exchange. They're certainly not an XBridge that can integrate every *existing* blockchain. What's a better plan: integrate every existing blockchain, or persuade every altcoin to scrap its blockchain, its community, and its market cap, rewrite itself as a sidechain, and play tag-along to the Bitcoin Foundation? Easy one, that. I agree. As I know some of the people on the team, I trust they are for real. I will be buying some, although I am not sure how much of which BLOCKNET coin I will use as I really like the coins I currently hold. I definitely think it is worth risking a little however. The limited supply is a much better strategy than the essentially unlimited SuperNET ITO. I also like there are some people with real identities behind this, accountable for it, putting their rep on the line. I think that makes it less likely for them to just vanish than many IPOs and so on we have seen in the past. Lastly, accepting BLOCKNET coins, some with low marketcap for payment, to me, ensures they care about the value of the BLOCKNET coins participating long term. (It would be hard to even just cash them out really) So it could be an amazing investment, and certainly the most interesting one coming up. I do not believe it is a "scam." |
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