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I got one S17e for Nov shipment.
Although I like the price of the T17's, I'm trying to maximize TH for my home set-up, at the best efficiency, in the least number of units.
My physical set-up can handle 3 units in regards to power supply and heat exhaust. To run any more than 3 units, I'd have to do more electrical work, adding a sub panel, etc... and getting exhaust ducts out is kind of a pain, so really dont want to do any more.
And I should be able to sell my current units on eBay for the same price I pay for a new one from Bitmain.
Once this arrives and I sell the pro-50, I'll look at swapping out the next unit.
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The shipping company should be contacting you concerning that - both times I had to pay, I was contacted by DHL - both times were for about 300 worth of fees. The first one was on about 8k worth of miners and the second time was for one miner that was 1400.
the rest of the miners I bought were under 1k each and I paid no fees for those. yet...
still debating on whether to order another T17 for 1145, shipped will be about 1300 and with tariff it will be close to 1650. and for a unit that wont be here till December.
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The Antminer S17e and T17e will be released in three batches and will be available for sale on Bitmain’s official website according to the following timings...
Thanks for the heads-up. My email showed up overnight. And, began refreshing the Bitmain page at 7am my time, and the S17e's came available again. So I placed my first ever order with them, and completed my first ever payment for an item with btc. Broke that cherry. Now, my only remaining question is...... how do I handle the import/customs issue? Ive never done that before, but have til Nov to figure it out. I know I'll have to drop another $700 tariff fee. But what do I do from here for the customs part? Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated. |
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Missed the point again, it does not use the word "may", it does not even define "others", thats the whole point. All its saying is that its a disclaimer, in other words, we've defined these, but just because we defined these doesnt mean these are the only ones you have.
The few Traffic related offenses which are considered criminal, are called criminal offenses and are handled by the courts as criminal offenses, not traffic offenses.
Thats why I used the words I did.
Definitions mean a lot in legal speak.
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I think I see the issue here. You got your law degree from Google, and believe the US Constitution is the only applicable law.
How does your state apply the wording of "criminal prosecutions" stated in the US Constitution to a traffic violation?
I cant speak for the other 49 states, but there's one that I'm quite familiar with. In my state, Title 234 is the Rules of Criminal Procedure, and outlines how prosecutions and investigation are to be handled depending on the grading of the offense. Is a Summary traffic offense handled in the courts the same as a Felony Assault? Nope.
At the Summary level, the local District Judge is the "finder of fact" and makes the ruling. The citing officer acts as prosecutor. The defendant can appeal the ruling to the State Court, but in that appeal, the Commonwealth Judge is the ultimate finder of fact.
Misdemeanor and Felony graded offenses operate quite differently.
I get that you read the US Constitution. I might also suggest you spend some time researching how the US Constitution integrates to individual state laws.
If the US Constitution was the only final law of the land, then please explain how you can legally buy and own an AR15 with standard capacity (30rd) mags. Put them in your car in Pennsylvania and youre cool, but as soon as you cross to New Jersey its a felony.
Your State Constitution, right in the first few lines, upholds the US. Constitution. In addition, if you have a proper Oath of Office on file, you promised in your OoO that you will uphold the US Constitution, as well. In the case of Louisiana that doesn't uphold the US Constitution, or any State that makes an amendment to their State constitution to remove the upholding of the US Constitution from their constitution... the Organic Acts of all States require that the States uphold the US Constitution to even be a State. (The Organic Act is the Act of the US Congress that authorizes a territory to become a State.) This means that a person can always require a jury trial. The only way a person can be denied a jury trial is if he agrees to such. However, if he rescinds his signature off the agreement, he can still have a jury trial. The funny thing is that the jury trial isn't automatic. The accused must demand it. Why would I want to read the US Constitution? Most of it has to do with the way they organize their operations in D.C. The US Constitution absolutely is NOT the final law of the land. The US Constitution says so, itself, right in the parts that allow private contracting, and in the 9th Amendment: Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. The jury trial existed before the Constitution. You can't lawfully deny the right to a jury trial to anyone who demands it. You really need to go back to LEO school. You really need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOBKiHUbuw to see what life and law are about.  You keep quoting the 9th A everywhere. All it really says is: you may have more rights than we defined here. Just because we defined these, doesnt mean you dont have more that we didnt list. You quoted this 6th A regarding jury trial. Look closer.... at the important words "CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS". What if a traffic violation wasn't considered a "CRIMINAL" prosecution ? There's your answer. |
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But I will guarantee that you cannot get a jury trial for a traffic offense in my state.
All right. We are missing something in our correspondence here. If you mean one of the 50 States in the USA or one of the US Territories, and you are not using some kind of play on words to mean something other than what the standard understanding of your words means, you are wrong. Consider the 6th and 7th Amendments. Amendment 6: Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Amendment 7: Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. How much plainer can foundational law be? And this doesn't include all kinds of other things that can be done without relying on a jury. Are you really talking without some kind of trick to it, or some kind of play on words? You know this stuff. If you are in the USA, you are supposed to take the Oath of Office that states that you will uphold the Constitution. And the Amendments are part of the Constitution. Are you in some other country, other than the USA. Because if you are LEO in the USA, without an Oath of Office, you are placing yourself in danger from anyone who challenges you right to be an LEO. I think I see the issue here. You got your law degree from Google, and believe the US Constitution is the only applicable law. How does your state apply the wording of "criminal prosecutions" stated in the US Constitution to a traffic violation? I cant speak for the other 49 states, but there's one that I'm quite familiar with. In my state, Title 234 is the Rules of Criminal Procedure, and outlines how prosecutions and investigation are to be handled depending on the grading of the offense. Is a Summary traffic offense handled in the courts the same as a Felony Assault? Nope. At the Summary level, the local District Judge is the "finder of fact" and makes the ruling. The citing officer acts as prosecutor. The defendant can appeal the ruling to the State Court, but in that appeal, the Commonwealth Judge is the ultimate finder of fact. Misdemeanor and Felony graded offenses operate quite differently. I get that you read the US Constitution. I might also suggest you spend some time researching how the US Constitution integrates to individual state laws. If the US Constitution was the only final law of the land, then please explain how you can legally buy and own an AR15 with standard capacity (30rd) mags. Put them in your car in Pennsylvania and youre cool, but as soon as you cross to New Jersey its a felony. |
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Scott offord's list, including hashexpert.net. ? Anyone know?
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Them, and others, getting rich and buying mansions while lecturing you on "income inequality."
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Less laws is always good..
But consider. When you go to the statutes, you will find that they are not the laws. Some Congress or Governor might vote a law into place. Then the law is turned into a statute/code. The statute/code doesn't say the same thing as the law. It might not even mean much of anything that the actual law that it was based on meant. In the USA and a few other countries, things are based on common law in the locality. Anyone who wants to fight a law can take it to jury trial, and get the jury to vote on that particular law in the case at hand. A simple example might be two counties in State X. The posted speed limit on the highway is, say, 65. In County A, a jury lets John Doe travel at 85. In County B a different jury lets John Doe travel 45 max. All the rest of the people in those counties can go 65 but not over. However, if enough juries adjudicate that enough people can travel 85, the State will have to change the speed limit law to 85. This is wrong. Very very wrong. As Ive seen in other posts of yours, you lack practical legal knowledge, yet perpetuate legal inaccuracies repeatedly. Of course you might say something like this. You are trained as a code enforcement officer. If they wanted common-law-of-man officers, your training would be a whole lot different. It's your training that is keeping you ignorant of the rest of the law... especially common law, which is the basic law. Sorry, I missed the Esq. after your name. But I will guarantee that you cannot get a jury trial for a traffic offense in my state. |
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Less laws is always good..
But consider. When you go to the statutes, you will find that they are not the laws. Some Congress or Governor might vote a law into place. Then the law is turned into a statute/code. The statute/code doesn't say the same thing as the law. It might not even mean much of anything that the actual law that it was based on meant. In the USA and a few other countries, things are based on common law in the locality. Anyone who wants to fight a law can take it to jury trial, and get the jury to vote on that particular law in the case at hand. A simple example might be two counties in State X. The posted speed limit on the highway is, say, 65. In County A, a jury lets John Doe travel at 85. In County B a different jury lets John Doe travel 45 max. All the rest of the people in those counties can go 65 but not over. However, if enough juries adjudicate that enough people can travel 85, the State will have to change the speed limit law to 85. This is wrong. Very very wrong. As Ive seen in other posts of yours, you lack practical legal knowledge, yet perpetuate legal inaccuracies repeatedly. |
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Thanks for the tip!  From where I'm posting, police brutality and even alleged extrajudicial killings done by the same, could be considered alarming it reached the United Nations. With this, my logic tells me that if a government failed, and failed terribly, to professionalize the 170,000 men in uniform, could it become successful to instill discipline to millions of armed ordinary citizens should they allow people like me to own guns? With an annual budget of almost 2 billion USD, the government failed to instill responsible gun ownership to these people. How much more does this country need to practically educate every single ordinary citizen on responsible gun ownership? Has anyone stopped to consider why these mass shootings are occurring now (last decade or two), when these guns ("assault rifles") have been available to the public since at least the 1960's ?
The guns are not the problem. I have quite a few that haven't hurt anyone. The real issue is morality and the ever decreasing lack of it in today's society.
When did you ever see teenagers back-talking and mouthing off to adults and cops? Certainly didnt happen when I was growing up. Now its an everyday event.
Little shits are not put in their place anymore and are given a timeout instead of a swift kick in the ass. The internet has exposed everyone to everything. No one respects fellow man anymore.
And its not going to get better.
The more reason why governments should make it even more difficult for people to have access to guns perhaps? I guess responsible gun owners like you are fairly outnumbered by these adventurous youngsters whose imaginary world they mistake as the real one. It's not the governments job to educate the populace on safe firearms use. It's the parent's job. But as i mentioned with the declining changes in society, so declines the idea of family and raising a responsible child. |
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With no tracking by dinner tomorrow I will ask for escrow to return the funds. So about 18 hours from now or less we will know how it ends - one way or the other.
Op was online today but sent no tracking
well it is past dinner and still no message - OP was online today and nothing. My guess is he was willing to fake thru an escrow deal that he never planned to deliver on while still trying to get someone to trust him and forego escrow. I hope no one did. Will be waiting for my refund from escrow. Thats my guess too. Fake an escrow deal with the first guy, so others think he's legit and skip escrow.... like he asked me to do sucks I am out 30 or so bucks but better than the near .06 btc i put in escrow 30 is nothing. Spent more than that on booze today. Made 300 on stock, lost 400 on options. Be happy to only lose 30 |
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With no tracking by dinner tomorrow I will ask for escrow to return the funds. So about 18 hours from now or less we will know how it ends - one way or the other.
Op was online today but sent no tracking
well it is past dinner and still no message - OP was online today and nothing. My guess is he was willing to fake thru an escrow deal that he never planned to deliver on while still trying to get someone to trust him and forego escrow. I hope no one did. Will be waiting for my refund from escrow. Thats my guess too. Fake an escrow deal with the first guy, so others think he's legit and skip escrow.... like he asked me to do |
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Clueless again. You are so off in left field.
I dont know how else to explain it to you. I'm sure everyone reading this has figured it out.
But I'll try one more time before i leave you in your fantasy world.
I have no attorney to arrange this.
I do, however, represent the state in a 25sq mi area for 40hrs a week. What I am telling you is... come commit a violation/crime of your choice where I have jurisdiction, in my district, while I'm working. You choose your action, one you think you can get out of with your red flag list.
I'll represent the state's interest. And you play your red flag theory. Since we are both on this forum offering opposite opinions of your theory, we can post the results for the others.
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Ok... I finally read the link you provided. All I can say is wow. That is so full of BS, lies, inaccuracies, and flat out false information.
So you get put on a "Red Flag" or "Restricted" list that says the cops know you are special?
You wont get taken in on warrants for not paying or responding to traffic citations?
Affidavit of high crimes and treason can get the judge/cop/prosecutor in trouble?
I pray that anyone who believes this load of crap prints out a copy and shows it to the arresting officers. The body cam footage will be priceless entertainment.
I've worked for the government since 1990. Both Federal, and local law enforcement. And I will offer a 3 gazillion dollar reward to anyone who can provide direction to this Red Flag or Restricted list.
The fact that you offer a "3 gazillion dollar reward," shows that you are not sincere. But if you say that you said that you "will" offer that reward, shows that you are simply trying to mix us up just like government tries to do all the time. Suppose someone shows you what you are denying exists, and they come to collect on your "reward," if you stand in court as a man, you can claim that the most you can afford to pay is $5 a month. If you haven't thrown yourself into a position of accepting court decisions regarding your monthly payments, you can get off just about scott free. I mean, what's $5 a month? Just because you never took part of a situation where you have seen the red flags, doesn't mean that others haven't. What generally happens is that the standard LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) asks for clarification when he runs into something like this that he doesn't understand. His superior officer goes up the chain of command asking for advice regarding what to do. It gets to a judge who has the red-flag info, or understands the interpretation of it, and he is the one who says, "hands off in this instance." If there is an arrest made without clarification of a "red flag," it is ultimately dismissed in court once it has been made know that the accused knows what he is talking about. The LEO is never given clarification of what happened. He/she knows that something doesn't seem kosher, but he never figures it out. The fact that you haven't seen any of this is the same as all kinds of other LEO who haven't seen it. There are few people who fight it this way. And when one does correctly, the judge or prosecutor drops the case. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOBKiHUbuw. Alright, want something sincere. Say $100. Or even $1,000. I will offer any amount for proof, not just BS video's or websites. Or, If you want to put the proof in the pudding, you name the charge/violation you want me to write... I'll give you a location/date. We can meet there. I'll cite/arrest/issue summons for the law you wish to violate..... and we can play it out in court. And we can both post the results in this thread So, now you want to play with the court, right? Seems that we are posting our results already. No idea what you mean by that. But what violation/crime do you think can be avoided by getting on your imaginary list? Well, since you want to play with the court system, and you don't even know what that means, how do you expect to win in court with some kind of a frivolous accusation? In court, a man has the right to face his accuser. Are you going to be my accuser on the indictment? If so, what harm or damage did I do to you since we agreed ahead of time to do this court thing? Show me the harm or damage, and prove that I did it. But if the State is my accuser on the indictment, let him take the oath and get on the stand so I can cross examine him. Can the State take the oath and get on the stand? Isn't the State just paperwork? If someone else gets on the stand, I will be requiring that he prove that he is Mr. State of XXXXX. If he isn't and can't, perhaps he is perjuring himself. So, why go through the trouble of doing your thing? My accuser won't get on the stand, or you will be in trouble for playing with the court system. You are so confused.. and its quite apparent you have no clue how the legal system operates. Nice talk though. Good luck Thought i made it quite clear. Pick your violation.... speeding, stop sign violation, drunk in public, etc... you do it and I'll take the appropriate action. Then pull your special list out when the case goes to court. |
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Has anyone stopped to consider why these mass shootings are occurring now (last decade or two), when these guns ("assault rifles") have been available to the public since at least the 1960's ?
The guns are not the problem. I have quite a few that haven't hurt anyone. The real issue is morality and the ever decreasing lack of it in today's society.
When did you ever see teenagers back-talking and mouthing off to adults and cops? Certainly didnt happen when I was growing up. Now its an everyday event.
Little shits are not put in their place anymore and are given a timeout instead of a swift kick in the ass. The internet has exposed everyone to everything. No one respects fellow man anymore.
And its not going to get better.
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Ok... I finally read the link you provided. All I can say is wow. That is so full of BS, lies, inaccuracies, and flat out false information.
So you get put on a "Red Flag" or "Restricted" list that says the cops know you are special?
You wont get taken in on warrants for not paying or responding to traffic citations?
Affidavit of high crimes and treason can get the judge/cop/prosecutor in trouble?
I pray that anyone who believes this load of crap prints out a copy and shows it to the arresting officers. The body cam footage will be priceless entertainment.
I've worked for the government since 1990. Both Federal, and local law enforcement. And I will offer a 3 gazillion dollar reward to anyone who can provide direction to this Red Flag or Restricted list.
The fact that you offer a "3 gazillion dollar reward," shows that you are not sincere. But if you say that you said that you "will" offer that reward, shows that you are simply trying to mix us up just like government tries to do all the time. Suppose someone shows you what you are denying exists, and they come to collect on your "reward," if you stand in court as a man, you can claim that the most you can afford to pay is $5 a month. If you haven't thrown yourself into a position of accepting court decisions regarding your monthly payments, you can get off just about scott free. I mean, what's $5 a month? Just because you never took part of a situation where you have seen the red flags, doesn't mean that others haven't. What generally happens is that the standard LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) asks for clarification when he runs into something like this that he doesn't understand. His superior officer goes up the chain of command asking for advice regarding what to do. It gets to a judge who has the red-flag info, or understands the interpretation of it, and he is the one who says, "hands off in this instance." If there is an arrest made without clarification of a "red flag," it is ultimately dismissed in court once it has been made know that the accused knows what he is talking about. The LEO is never given clarification of what happened. He/she knows that something doesn't seem kosher, but he never figures it out. The fact that you haven't seen any of this is the same as all kinds of other LEO who haven't seen it. There are few people who fight it this way. And when one does correctly, the judge or prosecutor drops the case. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOBKiHUbuw. Alright, want something sincere. Say $100. Or even $1,000. I will offer any amount for proof, not just BS video's or websites. Or, If you want to put the proof in the pudding, you name the charge/violation you want me to write... I'll give you a location/date. We can meet there. I'll cite/arrest/issue summons for the law you wish to violate..... and we can play it out in court. And we can both post the results in this thread So, now you want to play with the court, right? Seems that we are posting our results already. No idea what you mean by that. But what violation/crime do you think can be avoided by getting on your imaginary list? |
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Ok... I finally read the link you provided. All I can say is wow. That is so full of BS, lies, inaccuracies, and flat out false information.
So you get put on a "Red Flag" or "Restricted" list that says the cops know you are special?
You wont get taken in on warrants for not paying or responding to traffic citations?
Affidavit of high crimes and treason can get the judge/cop/prosecutor in trouble?
I pray that anyone who believes this load of crap prints out a copy and shows it to the arresting officers. The body cam footage will be priceless entertainment.
I've worked for the government since 1990. Both Federal, and local law enforcement. And I will offer a 3 gazillion dollar reward to anyone who can provide direction to this Red Flag or Restricted list.
The fact that you offer a "3 gazillion dollar reward," shows that you are not sincere. But if you say that you said that you "will" offer that reward, shows that you are simply trying to mix us up just like government tries to do all the time. Suppose someone shows you what you are denying exists, and they come to collect on your "reward," if you stand in court as a man, you can claim that the most you can afford to pay is $5 a month. If you haven't thrown yourself into a position of accepting court decisions regarding your monthly payments, you can get off just about scott free. I mean, what's $5 a month? Just because you never took part of a situation where you have seen the red flags, doesn't mean that others haven't. What generally happens is that the standard LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) asks for clarification when he runs into something like this that he doesn't understand. His superior officer goes up the chain of command asking for advice regarding what to do. It gets to a judge who has the red-flag info, or understands the interpretation of it, and he is the one who says, "hands off in this instance." If there is an arrest made without clarification of a "red flag," it is ultimately dismissed in court once it has been made know that the accused knows what he is talking about. The LEO is never given clarification of what happened. He/she knows that something doesn't seem kosher, but he never figures it out. The fact that you haven't seen any of this is the same as all kinds of other LEO who haven't seen it. There are few people who fight it this way. And when one does correctly, the judge or prosecutor drops the case. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOBKiHUbuw. Alright, want something sincere. Say $100. Or even $1,000. I will offer any amount for proof, not just BS video's or websites. Or, If you want to put the proof in the pudding, you name the charge/violation you want me to write... I'll give you a location/date. We can meet there. I'll cite/arrest/issue summons for the law you wish to violate..... and we can play it out in court. And we can both post the results in this thread |
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Wow. Those sold out quick. Should've set an alarm
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Ok... I finally read the link you provided. All I can say is wow. That is so full of BS, lies, inaccuracies, and flat out false information.
So you get put on a "Red Flag" or "Restricted" list that says the cops know you are special?
You wont get taken in on warrants for not paying or responding to traffic citations?
Affidavit of high crimes and treason can get the judge/cop/prosecutor in trouble?
I pray that anyone who believes this load of crap prints out a copy and shows it to the arresting officers. The body cam footage will be priceless entertainment.
I've worked for the government since 1990. Both Federal, and local law enforcement. And I will offer a 3 gazillion dollar reward to anyone who can provide direction to this Red Flag or Restricted list.
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